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Journey by Journey => Bristol (WECA) Commuters => Topic started by: Lee on November 12, 2007, 16:57:25



Title: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: Lee on November 12, 2007, 16:57:25
The Evening Post has seen a leaked copy of a letter sent by the West of England Partnership to rail minister Tom Harris MP questioning the arrival of the Class 142 units. The letter was signed by transport leaders at the four local authorities in the Bristol area. FGW says the 142s will be used on Devon lines , but has not ruled out the possibility of them coming to Bristol in future (link below.)
http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144913&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231190&home=yes&more_nodeId1=144922&contentPK=18936369

The letter says of the 142s: "They are far from reliable and represent a considerable step backwards in terms of quality and capacity."

It added: "The last thing we wish to see is a repeat of December 2006 with cancelled and short-formed trains leading to overcrowding and passengers left behind on platforms."

Mr Harris told the Post: "The number and type of trains on the railway is mainly a matter for train operators."

He added: "Our priority is to ensure there is capacity for the travelling public and we have ensured replacement trains are available."

First Great Western spokesman Lance Cole said: "Nothing is set in stone, but come the December 9 timetable changes, the Pacers will be on the Exeter to Barnstaple line. I am not aware they will be used in the Bristol area in a couple of months time."

"The DfT takes responsibility for taking strategic rolling stock decision and that decision is to give us 12 Pacers."

Quote from David Redgewell (Campaign For Better Transport) :

"Why is the West not getting what the North is?"

Mr Redgewell said the cost of leasing a Sprinter was ^8,000 per month compared to ^3,000 for a railbus.


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: devon_metro on November 12, 2007, 17:42:57
Why the hell are Bristol worried. 

Think of DEVON for goodness sake!


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: vacman on November 12, 2007, 17:53:48
Why the hell are Bristol worried. 

Think of DEVON for goodness sake!
Because Bristol suburban lines are busier than Barny maybe????


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: Jim on November 12, 2007, 17:57:58
Why the hell are Bristol worried. 

Think of DEVON for goodness sake!
Because Bristol suburban lines are busier than Barny maybe????

They seem it!


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: devon_metro on November 12, 2007, 18:01:24
How many Bristol surburban services require you to sit down for 60+ minutes (without delays) though?  ???


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: Jim on November 12, 2007, 18:04:07
How many Bristol surburban services require you to sit down for 60+ minutes (without delays) though?  ???

How many Exmouth Services do the same?


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: vacman on November 12, 2007, 18:09:13
And Paignton-Exeter is all welded rail on which 14x's arent too bad!


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: devon_metro on November 12, 2007, 18:10:40
Newton Abbot - Torre still features some jointed rail, unless it has been replaced on one of the recent weekend possesions.


Title: Re: Leaked Letter To Tom Harris Reveals Pacer Fears
Post by: Jim on November 12, 2007, 18:11:37
And Paignton-Exeter is all welded rail on which 14x's arent too bad!

Apparently the crew's were 'plesently suprised' by them, well, thats what 1 driver said to me anyway.



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