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Journey by Journey => London to the Cotswolds => Topic started by: pbc2520 on October 13, 2011, 17:02:42



Title: Limping HST
Post by: pbc2520 on October 13, 2011, 17:02:42
Yesterday's 1314 HFD-PAD spent most, if not all, the journey without the rear power car.  I joined at WOF, where it was about 13 mins late as a result.  It arrived into PAD still 13 mins late, unable to make up time and delayed the down train at Wolvercote.  Not bad for a one-legged HST in the Cotswolds and, between Twyford and Slough, even managed to top 120mph.. eventually!

For you delectation... 1359 WOF-PAD 2011-10-12
arr    dep
Worcester Foregate Street14:11:??
Worcester Shrub Hill14:13:4214:15:31
Pershore14:24:0314:25:42
Evesham14:32:4?14:35:16
Honeybourne14:41:3314:43:02
Moreton-in-Marsh14:54:4614:56:39
Kingham15:04:0915:06:57
Charlbury15:15:3015:17:18
Hanborough15:25:0715:26:32
(Wolvercote Junction 15:32)
Oxford15:36:3215:39:12
(Didcot Junction 15:49--15:50)
Reading16:04:5016:06:29
Slough16:??:??16:22:43
Paddington16:40:13

(I see today's 0643 HFD-PAD was running 20 mins late due to a faulty train.. hopefully not the same one!)


Title: Re: Limping HST
Post by: CLPGMS on October 14, 2011, 22:39:57
FGW does appear to be going through a period of problems with HSTs.  For example:

Monday 3rd October.
1750 PAD-WOS terminated at Oxford due to a train fault.  This also meant the cancellation of the 2059 WOF-PAD, much to the annoyance of Cotswold Line Promotion Group Committee Members who planned to return on it from Evesham after a meeting!

Sunday 9th October.
1545 Paignton to PAD developed a fault in the Taunton area.  After attention there, it got as far as Bristol T.M. and was replaced by another set.

Thursday 13th October.
0822 PAD-HFD departed on time but was 40 minutes late at Reading due to a fault on the train.


Title: Re: Limping HST
Post by: JayMac on October 14, 2011, 22:41:37
Are problems arising as the stock begins to be winterised perhaps?


Title: Re: Limping HST
Post by: Western Enterprise on October 17, 2011, 14:43:56
"even managed to top 120mph.. eventually"

Thats good going, if my memory serves me righ, on about 2,300hp ish ?


Title: Re: Limping HST
Post by: pbc2520 on October 17, 2011, 21:27:05
Your memory serves you right - at 2,280bhp the MTU 16V 4000 R41R engine (http://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/products/engine-program/diesel-engines-for-rail-traction/diesel-engines-for-push-pull-trains-and-locomotives/detail/product/398/cHash/c87ce55e0fbdc23d34cb5949c18353b6/) is slightly more powerful than the old 2,250bhp Paxman Valenta.  I was surprised too but if it's going to happen anywhere, it'll be on a nice long, straight and level section.

For today's 1551 PAD-WOS, a 3-car turbo showed up, which passed a stabled HST at Oxford  >:(  I didn't manage to hear the reason given for this.


Title: Re: Limping HST
Post by: pbc2520 on October 17, 2011, 21:51:48
In fact, the figures I recorded on my computer actually give some inkling as to acceleration of an HST with one engine:

900.0 / (1318432391.007 - 1318432381.863);  (* 98.4 *)
900.0 / (1318432434.714 - 1318432426.249);  (* 106.3 *)
900.0 / (1318432484.184 - 1318432476.098);  (* 111.3 *)
900.0 / (1318432523.283 - 1318432515.664);  (* 118.1 *)
900.0 / (1318432568.820 - 1318432561.263);  (* 119.1 *)
900.0 / (1318432598.024 - 1318432590.646);  (* 122.0 *)
1800.0 / (1318432635.071 - 1318432620.008);  (* 119.5 *)

The long numbers are times in seconds that mileposts are passed, accurately recorded by eye against a mark on the window.  Each line records times at posts 1/4 mile apart (1/2 mile apart in the case of 1800.0 / ...) so the speeds are averages over the section.  As these times are absolute you can see the time over which speed was gathered: about 3.5 minutes to accelerate from 98mph to 122mph in these particular conditions.

Well, I found that interesting... :)



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