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Title: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: Kingfisherdart on April 26, 2011, 11:53:36
"09:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour due 12:54
This train has been revised.It will call additionally at: Eastleigh East Jn.It will no longer call at: Southampton Central.This is due to signalling problems. "

A new one on me....

L


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: paul7575 on April 26, 2011, 12:23:46
The interlocking renewal at Southampton Central appears to be having teething troubles.

Intuitively the problems appear to be west of the station, because at the moment the Poole service is terminating at Eastleigh, XC Bournemouths are terminating at Central, FGW Portsmouths are diverted via Eastleigh, and other FGWs cancelled at Salisbury.  Most other mainline services are running with some delays.

Paul


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: Brucey on April 26, 2011, 13:49:47
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Line problem at Southampton Central.
Train services at Southampton Central are being disrupted due to signalling problems.Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice alterations and delays of up to 30 minutes can be expected.
Services between Salisbury and Portsmouth currently unable to call at Southampton Central. Services will call additionally at Eastleigh. Customers to/from Southampton should travel via Eastleigh - a limited train service is in operation between Eastleigh and Southampton
Last Updated: 26/04/2011 13:41

Problems occurring since this morning when it said over running engineering works, does anyone know what (and where) the actual problem is?


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: devon_metro on April 26, 2011, 15:19:57
From what I can gather they've mucked up some of the signals west of Central station. They had relaid the eastern approach, so maybe over the bank holiday weekend they've replaced the other side?


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: paul7575 on April 26, 2011, 17:03:23
From what I can gather they've mucked up some of the signals west of Central station. They had relaid the eastern approach, so maybe over the bank holiday weekend they've replaced the other side?

No, as I posted earlier this weekends work was 'just'  :) the switchover from the old interlocking to the new.  They've replaced the original SSI with Alstom Smartlock, but reusing all the existing trackside interfaces.  AIUI the S&C replacement at the east end was coincidental, as they've been installing the new interlocking for many months - a press release on the Signalling Solutions website explains that the first work was done in Dec 2009...

The current diversions and cancellations showing on NR LDBs definitely point to a signal or points problem west of Central though.

Paul 


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: Kingfisherdart on April 26, 2011, 17:34:14
The point that I was trying to get across - rather unsuccessfully ... was that the FGW website was quoting trains as stopping at 'Eastleigh East Junction' rather than Eastleigh station.....
L


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: MrC on April 26, 2011, 19:18:55
Looks like somebody has added a passing point instead of a station. There's also an SWT train currently listed as stopping at Brookwood Country End, Brookwood and Brookwood London End!


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: Brucey on April 27, 2011, 08:44:51
Problems still ongoing today...
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Line problem between Southampton Central and Romsey.
Train services are being disrupted due to signalling problems between Southampton Central and Romsey.Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice alterations and delays of up to 20 minutes can be expected.
First Great Western services which operate on the Portsmouth Harbour - Southampton - Bristol Temple Meads - Cardiff Central and Brighton - Southampton - Gloucester - Great Malvern routes will NOT be able to call at Southampton Central. These services will call additionally at Eastleigh where it will be possible to change trains for services to / from Southampton Central.
Last Updated: 27/04/2011 08:37


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: grahame on April 27, 2011, 09:04:08
<pedant>  So anyone on a freedom of severn and solent ticket from Salisbury to Portmouth today has to get off at Eastleigh get a train into Southampton and then a local train along to Portsmouth?   Why on earth is Eastleigh to Fareham not includes in this ticket? </pedant>


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: Brucey on April 27, 2011, 09:13:12
So anyone on a freedom of severn and solent ticket from Salisbury to Portmouth today has to get off at Eastleigh get a train into Southampton and then a local train along to Portsmouth?
Technically, that is correct.  Although it could be argued that the service does not stop between Eastleigh and Fareham, which are both shown on the map.  How is the passenger supposed to know which route the train will take, especially when it was originally timetabled to go through Southampton?

Common sense would suggest this line should be included.


Title: Re: Trains stopping at Eastleigh East Junction - signalling problems at Southampton
Post by: paul7575 on April 27, 2011, 15:06:33
The point that I was trying to get across - rather unsuccessfully ... was that the FGW website was quoting trains as stopping at 'Eastleigh East Junction' rather than Eastleigh station.....
L

Apologies for hijacking your post!  However accidentally including reporting points in public announcements isn't that unusual when they are coping with disasters, so I moved on to explaining what had been going on that might have caused the problem in the first place...   :-[

Paul



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