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Title: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 16:18:00 From FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem at Langley. Train services at Langley have been disrupted due to a person hit by a train earlier. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 30 minutes may still occur. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:50 Service incidents 12:06 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:12 This train has been terminated at Langley. It will call additionally at: Langley. It will no longer call at: Reading, Exeter St Davids, Newton Abbot, Plymouth, Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Par, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, Hayle, St Erth and Penzance. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 13:19 14:06 London Paddington to Penzance due 19:35 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Slough. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 13:35 14:10 Exeter St Davids to Penzance due 17:14 An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 14:10 Exeter St Davids to Penzance due 17:14 run on 24/03/11. Calling at Newton Abbot, Plymouth, Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Par, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Cambourne, Hayle, St Erth and Penzance. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 13:19 14:15 London Paddington to Cardiff Central due 16:22 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 14:10 14:27 London Paddington to Oxford due 16:14 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Langley. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 14:33 14:37 Oxford to London Paddington due 16:31 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Taplow and Burnham. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:45 14:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 16:42 This train will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at: London Paddington, Ealing Broadway, Hayes & Harlington, West Drayton, Iver, Langley, Slough, Maidenhead and Twyford. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:11 Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:03 15:12 Plymouth to Penzance due 17:12 This train has been revised. This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. The calling pattern is as follows: Plymouth, Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Par, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, Hayle, St Erth and Penzance. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:34 15:18 London Paddington to Bedwyn due 16:31 This train will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at: London Paddington, Theale and Thatcham. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:59 15:18 Reading to London Paddington due 16:17 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:34 15:55 Cardiff Central to London Paddington due 18:02 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:19 16:28 Swansea to London Paddington due 19:32 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Newport South Wales, Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Didcot Parkway and Reading. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:45 16:55 Cardiff Central to London Paddington due 19:02 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:54 Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 17:41:27 From the Slough and Langley Observer (http://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2011/03/24/51269-death-at-langley-station-/):
Quote Death at Langley station A man has died after being hit by a train in Langley. British Transport Police (BTP) were called to Langley train station today at 12.20pm after reports of the incident which involved the 12.06 Paddington to Penzance service. A spokeswoman said: "Paramedics from the Royal Berkshire Ambulance Service also attended but the man was pronounced dead at the scene. Enquiries are ongoing to establish the man's identity and inform his next of kin." The death is being treated as unexplained and a file is being prepared for the coroner. From the Maidenhead Advertiser (http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/article-20452-breaking-person-hit-by-a-train-causing-delays-to-services/): Quote Person hit by a train causing delays to services A person has been hit by a train at Langley station causing cancellations and delays. British Transport Police are on the scene and have closed the station. They have not identified the victim, who was hit just after midday today. Services through Langley have been stopped on all four lines causing delays of up to two hours. There is also disruption to services to the West Country, Bristol and South Wales. Services from London Paddington to Cardiff Central have been cancelled and London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads reduced to an hourly service. Trains to Oxford have a reduced service. A spokesman for First Great Western said the relief lines have just been opened, which should ease the wait for some passengers. He advised people to check for service updates before travelling UPDATE - 3pm The person hit by a train was a man, who was pronounced dead at the scene. The incident is currently being treated as unexplained. The train involved was the 12.06pm Paddington to Penzanze service. Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Phil on March 24, 2011, 17:49:49 I was caught up in the tail end of this - I arrived at Paddington at 2, by which time the half-hourly trains west were still being cancelled and the hourly ones leaving late. To be fair though it all seemed very orderly, with plenty of announcements, and was by all accounts pretty much back to normal for country-bound passengers (apart from nothing stopping at Langley) by 4. Well done FGW.
Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 18:05:41 Update, from FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem at Langley. Train services at Langley are now running normally. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 17:55 Service incidents 14:06 London Paddington to Penzance due 19:35 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Slough. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 13:35 15:55 Cardiff Central to London Paddington due 18:02 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:19 16:07 Oxford to London Paddington due 18:01 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Twyford, Maidenhead, Slough, Langley, Iver and West Drayton. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 16:37 16:28 Swansea to London Paddington due 19:32 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Newport South Wales, Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Didcot Parkway and Reading. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:45 16:55 Cardiff Central to London Paddington due 19:02 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 15:54 17:00 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 20:06 This train will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at: Great Malvern and Malvern Link. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 16:20 17:39 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:50 This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8 between Penzance and Exeter St Davids. Supplementary road transport will operate from Penzance to Plymouth. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 16:28 18:00 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 19:38 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Didcot Parkway. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 17:54 Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: ChrisB on March 24, 2011, 18:29:32 Do you notice that theres little sympathy in the press articles over that man's fate? They ought not to presume suicide until facts are released, he might have been pushed.....
Just loads about the trains. I know they have little to go on, but they could be even slightlymore sympathetic, I feel. Thats likely someone's loved one.... Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: coachflyer on March 24, 2011, 19:31:19 Bad day as looks like another one at Iver
Quote Line problem at Iver. Train services at Iver are being disrupted due to a person hit by a train.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected. First Great Western tickets are valid on CrossCountry services between Reading and Basingstoke, SouthWest Trains services via any reasonable route and London Underground services between London Paddington and London Waterloo. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:10 Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 20:45:46 Indeed, sadly. :( Another update, from FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem at Iver. Train services at Iver are being disrupted due to a person hit by a train. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 120 minutes can be expected. First Great Western tickets are valid on CrossCountry services between Reading and Basingstoke, SouthWest Trains services via any reasonable route and London Underground services between London Paddington and London Waterloo. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:35 Service incidents 17:39 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:50 This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8 between Penzance and Exeter St Davids. Supplementary road transport will operate from Penzance to Plymouth. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 16:28 18:47 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 21:01 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:16 19:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 20:44 This train will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:29 19:03 London Paddington to Plymouth due 22:27 This train will be started from Reading. It will call additionally at: Pewsey and Westbury. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:40 19:15 London Paddington to Swansea due 22:19 This train will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:47 19:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 21:42 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:33 20:12 London Paddington to Reading due 21:12 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:20 20:42 London Paddington to Reading due 21:43 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:16 20:51 London Paddington to Oxford due 21:53 This train will be reinstated. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:37 20:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 22:39 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:15 Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 21:08:32 Do you notice that theres little sympathy in the press articles over that man's fate? They ought not to presume suicide until facts are released, he might have been pushed..... Just loads about the trains. I know they have little to go on, but they could be even slightlymore sympathetic, I feel. Thats likely someone's loved one.... Hmm. :( While I do agree with your concern that the deceased person may well have been someone's loved one, ChrisB, the perhaps brutal fact of the matter is that there is an accepted formula for the reporting of any such incidents. When Quote The death is being treated as unexplained and a file is being prepared for the coroner and Quote The incident is currently being treated as unexplained that means that the police have already established that there is nothing to suggest that the deceased might have been pushed: if there was, it would be a murder enquiry.Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 21:42:41 Further service update, from FGW:
Quote Service incidents 17:39 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:50 This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8 between Penzance and Exeter St Davids. Supplementary road transport will operate from Penzance to Plymouth. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 16:28 18:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:31 This train will be terminated at Reading. It will call additionally at: Slough. It will no longer call at: Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:59 19:03 London Paddington to Plymouth due 22:27 This train will be started from Reading. It will call additionally at: Pewsey and Westbury. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:40 19:15 London Paddington to Swansea due 22:19 This train will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:47 19:30 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare due 21:48 This train will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads. It will no longer call at: Nailsea & Backwell, Yatton, Worle and Weston-Super-Mare. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:06 19:48 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 22:03 This train will be terminated at Gloucester. It will no longer call at: Cheltenham Spa. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:30 19:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 21:42 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:33 20:42 London Paddington to Reading due 21:43 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:16 20:51 London Paddington to Oxford due 21:53 This train will be reinstated. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:37 20:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 22:39 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:15 21:01 Oxford to London Paddington due 21:59 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:00 21:07 Reading to Basingstoke due 21:31 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:16 21:20 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 22:29 An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 21:20 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 22:29 run on 24/03/11. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:23 21:42 Basingstoke to Reading due 22:05 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:17 22:49 London Paddington to Oxford due 00:11 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:27 Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: johoare on March 24, 2011, 22:07:15 I've just heard from two people I know that were caught up in the delays caused by the second one..
One was trying to get back to Maidenhead.. delayed by an hour and 20 minutes.. The other is heading back to Swindon.. Left Paddington at 6.30.. arrived Reading at 9.30..(and it was his birthday) This shows the amount of disruption there was. Meanwhile..all sympathy to the train drivers and members of staff and anyone else involved with and affected by these... Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2011, 22:12:15 Thanks, Jo - and sympathy to all those affected by these sad incidents. :(
Latest update, from FGW: Quote Line problem at Iver. Train services at Iver have been disrupted due to a person hit by a train earlier. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes may still occur. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:47 Service incidents 17:39 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:50 This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8 between Penzance and Exeter St Davids. Supplementary road transport will operate from Penzance to Plymouth. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 16:28 19:03 London Paddington to Plymouth due 22:27 This train will be started from Reading. It will call additionally at: Pewsey and Westbury. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:40 19:15 London Paddington to Swansea due 22:19 This train will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at: London Paddington. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 19:47 19:48 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 22:03 This train will be terminated at Gloucester. It will no longer call at: Cheltenham Spa. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:30 20:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 22:39 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 20:15 21:20 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 22:29 An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 21:20 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 22:29 run on 24/03/11. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:23 21:42 Basingstoke to Reading due 22:05 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:17 21:57 London Paddington to Oxford due 23:44 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Burnham and Taplow. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:56 22:49 London Paddington to Oxford due 00:11 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 24/03/2011 21:27 Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: ChrisB on March 24, 2011, 22:18:58 Do you notice that theres little sympathy in the press articles over that man's fate? They ought not to presume suicide until facts are released, he might have been pushed..... Just loads about the trains. I know they have little to go on, but they could be even slightlymore sympathetic, I feel. Thats likely someone's loved one.... Hmm. :( While I do agree with your concern that the deceased person may well have been someone's loved one, ChrisB, the perhaps brutal fact of the matter is that there is an accepted formula for the reporting of any such incidents. When Quote The death is being treated as unexplained and a file is being prepared for the coroner and Quote The incident is currently being treated as unexplained that means that the police have already established that there is nothing to suggest that the deceased might have been pushed: if there was, it would be a murder enquiry.Sorry, Chris, but 'unexplained' means just that - that all avenues are still being explored & the Police are still treating the incident with an open mind. "No suspicious circumstances" is the term you were looking for, for your definition. Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: Ollie on March 24, 2011, 23:03:12 I was told that both were non suspicious.
The train involved for the 2nd one was the 18:22 which is why Jo's friend was stuck on the 18:30 for a while. Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: JayMac on March 24, 2011, 23:28:04 Do you notice that theres little sympathy in the press articles over that man's fate? They ought not to presume suicide until facts are released, he might have been pushed..... Nowhere in the quoted articles is the word 'suicide' mentioned. So it appears the only presumptions being made are by you, ChrisB. 'Unexplained' will not include the possibility of foul play. It's used to cover 'death by misadventure', 'accidental death' and 'suicide'. The police would, in all likelihood, say if they are treating the death as suspicious and beginning a murder enquiry. Meanwhile, I too would like to express my sympathy to all those involved, particularly the train driver. Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: willc on March 25, 2011, 00:03:11 Getting into the realms of legal technicalities, suicide is a formal definition, that has to be brought in as a verdict by a coroner after an inquest. That is why statements from the police about such sad situations carefully avoid using it and adopt the kinds of wording used here. Coroners themselves tend to avoid using it unless they have very clear evidence of someone's intention to take their own life, such as signed letters.
I was delayed at work tonight, so was aiming for the 18.22 to get home from Oxford. Replacement coach was the result, finally leaving Oxford about 8.15pm. Title: Re: Disruption caused due to persons hit by trains at Langley and Iver - 24 March 2011 Post by: grahame on March 25, 2011, 05:02:56 'Unexplained' will not include the possibility of foul play. It's used to cover 'death by misadventure', 'accidental death' and 'suicide'. The police would, in all likelihood, say if they are treating the death as suspicious and beginning a murder enquiry. There are well over a dozen different verdicts that can come from a coroner's court ... and (when you think about it) a whole lot of reasons that someone can end up as "person hit by train". (S)he tripped and fell (S)he was pushed intentionally (S)he was pushed unintentionally (S)he was helping couple up railway vehicles when one of them moved (S)he misjudged it on a passenger walkway over the track (S)he was escaping from 'the law' over the railway line (S)he fainted, falling in front of the train (S)he keeled over and died, falling in front of the train (S)he jumped onto the track to rescue someone who had fallen but got hit him/herself (S)he jumped intentionally (S)he jumped intentionally because (s)he was terminally (but slowly) ill and in great pain Not my field ... but I have learned on this forum that things might not always be as they seem - an enquiry by email from a friend as to "was it painless" may actually be an enquiry by someone involved to try and find out how much the authorities know. There are many, many alternatives such as those listed above to consider. And I've also learned that there are - almost inevitably - friends and family who will be naturally distressed and deserve the utmost sympathy. P.S. My comment about someone involved fishing for information relates to real case(s), but NOT to my knowledge to anything that remains open such as yesterday's events. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |