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Title: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: ReWind on January 30, 2011, 19:29:42
Just a quickie,

wondering if anybody can tell me what the 4 Class 20 locomtives and a Class 73 electric loco were doing shunting tanks around on the through line at Temple Meads today?

Caused quite a noise at times, and caught many peoples attention! 


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: dog box on January 30, 2011, 19:47:46
dunno..but they have gone now


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: devon_metro on January 30, 2011, 20:49:05
I was rather shocked to see this random combination earlier!


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 30, 2011, 21:40:42
Class 20s sound like it could be DRS, but a 73...? Was it running on the diesel engine or just being dragged?


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 30, 2011, 21:55:06
DRS = Direct Rail Services (I've added it to our 'acronyms and abbreviations' page  ;) )


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: asdfg on January 30, 2011, 21:59:47
wondering if anybody can tell me what the 4 Class 20 locomtives and a Class 73 electric loco were doing shunting tanks around on the through line at Temple Meads today?

Four GBRf Class 20s and a GBRf Class 73 stopped over last night and continued their journey to South Wales today where the Class 73 will take up shunting duties at Celsa, Cardiff. All to do with GBRf winning a former EWS contract. I understand the Class 20s, on hire from DRS, will then be doing some route learning in the Gloucester area.


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: ReWind on January 30, 2011, 23:10:45
I thought a class 73 was an electric loco though!  Therefore unable to operate in unelectrified locations!!


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: asdfg on January 30, 2011, 23:15:53
I thought a class 73 was an electric loco though!  Therefore unable to operate in unelectrified locations!!

It's an electro-diesel. It has a 600hp diesel engine for use when off the third rail system.


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: JayMac on January 30, 2011, 23:27:51
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_73

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_20


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 31, 2011, 05:41:49
I thought a class 73 was an electric loco though!  Therefore unable to operate in unelectrified locations!!

It's an electro-diesel. It has a 600hp diesel engine for use when off the third rail system.

And indeed even when running on diesel they have a surprising amount of "poke".

Spoken as a guard who forgot to take his handbrake off. For a few seconds...


Title: Re: Class 20's at Bristol Temple Meads
Post by: eightf48544 on January 31, 2011, 08:39:55
As Industryinsider recalls the 73's on diesel have some poke.

I've seen one at Reading having pulled the old Sussex Scot on diesel from probably Clapham Jn it was quite late but it made it.

Another time one pushed an XC complete with dead 47 on the front from Basingstoke to Reading. Using the rear coaches buckeye.

They were another of the Southern Regions universal locos with buckeyes and standard control wires that could be coupled to 33s TCs,  most EPB units and presumably Thumpers and be driven from either end. Late 60s early 70s was the nearest we've come in this country to a universal coupling, and then only one region and not universal on that with the SUBs and later the PEPs not buckeye fitted.

As I've posted before the Americans have had the buckeye since around 1905.





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