Title: TransWilts Rail Post by: grahame on January 22, 2011, 15:38:32 I've posted separately a thread that introduces the "TransWilts Rail" initiative that's curruntly under way - bringing together the parties from all quarters to link communities and businesses across Wiltshire and beyond. It's here (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=8310.0) under the TransWilts board, but I thought I'm also adding a post in the 'campaign' area because it IS also a quest - or campaign if you like - for an improved service.
Campaigns move on over time - that's not to confuse "objective creep" with the natural progression through stages, and I've been involved with the TransWilts for quite a while. Nothing like as long as some others, but I'm probably well placed to give an update as where we were at the change of Franchise from National Express / Wessex Trains to First, through to today. Here's a piece written for the "Save the Train" website, which was where my personal involvement started. Quote The first objective when "Save the Train" was set up was to put this line onto the map - to ensure that the people who were the decision influencers and makers, many of whom live and work a long way from Wiltshire, were aware that there was a case to be looked at. And that objective, to some extent, had to be something of an adversarial one. We had to be a bit of a squeaky wheel. We had to say to people who had little interest in Wiltshire "please consider our case" and we had to say it quite often and loudly to ensure it didn't get drowned out by other far grander things. "Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves" is something I was brought up on, and we had to - at times - irritate people so they would look at the pennies. Being a bit of an irritant like that doesn't necessarily stand you in the best of steads with people, and neither does questioning prior decisions made by their friends and colleagues in the same organisation, but we rapidly came to realise that the majority of people that we approached and worked with and through were very much on side (although a few had, and perhaps still have, a different agenda and priorities), and that if we learned much more about the system, how to look for goals that were realisitic, and how to push on doors that could be pushed open (preferably on well oiled hinges) we could put the need to be purely adversarial behind us. We could - and we now have - move on to working with all the parties towards a solution that suites everyone. The second objective is / was to get a proper evaluation together of an appropriate service. Was one return trip starting out at 06:15 from Swindon to Westbury, and another one starting out at 18:44, with nothing else, appropriate for the traffic flows of the area and the communities served? Was just two evening trains - at 17:00 and 19:35 - from Westbury to Swindon, and nothing from Swindon to Westbury, really the best option for Sunday? We guessed not, we hoped not, but we didn't know. We quickly learned (through FOI) that Jacobs / 2004 had recommended a commuter service into Swindon in the morning, one back in the evening, and a two-hourly service in between ... and that in a report which across the South West as a whole was distinctly spartan in what it suggested be run. A very great deal has been done towards the second objective. Wiltshire Council and Network Rail have both looked at the case in various ways, and come up with suggestions / initial views that a service every 2 hours in the short term, or every hour in the quite near future, has a significantly positive benefit to cost. The higher level of service than suggested by Jacobs is partly based on the continued rapid growth of rail passengers (8 to 10 % per annum, versus less than 1% that Jacobs took as the basis for calculations), partly by the high growth of the communities along the TransWilts corridor which not only gives more potential travellers, but also brings increased congestion to the road network of the area, and partly by environmental and limited fossil fuel concerns which - whether you personally agree with them or not - are encouraging more and more people to opt for public transport options if they possibly can. Our own work - asking people n the area for their views and intents and correlating them, making comparisons with other lines and communities elsewhere in the UK, and more, has also produced results that point in a similar direction. But, having pointed to a body of evidence that all shows in a similar direction, we still don't have proof. I'm personally reluctant to call anything short of actually trying out a service as proof of what it will do. Howevers, others (more genlty than me, perhaps) will accept the outputs from various industry standard models, on top of the evidence so far, as sufficient proof. At the very least, they allow the TransWilts to be evaluated with the same formulae as other services to provide a comparator. Alas, even with industry standard models there is some 'special case' working needed for the formulae; it's quite one thing to calculate an expected traccif level based on increasing a service from every 120 minutes to every 60 minutes, but a far longer (and more dubious) exrapollation to look at increasing a service from every 720 minutes to every 60. Anyway, to put one of the last big jigsaw pieces into the end of evaulations, we need the industry standard modelling - systems that have marvellous names such as MOIRA and LENON which use ticketing databases and all sorts of other commercial data that only a limited number of expert consultants may access - and therefore, there's a need to fund this work. Actually, it's rather a good idea having independent experts with a good reputation doing the work, as it will truely confirm their independence. And they can also look at a number of alternative scenarios and give their inputs as to which is best. It's a very tough call indeed for us to know whether a single train would be best used to provide a train every 3 hours or so between Salisbury and Swindon, or one every 2 hours between Westbury and Swindon , or an hourly Melksham to Swindon service. We're pretty sure that running south of Melksham is vital and that hourly should come when a second train is available, but do you run to Salisbury every 3 hours, or can you provide an excellent connection at Westbury into an onward service that gives you a two-houly ALL statins service along the whole route? The third element of the campaign is to (re)gain an appropriate service. And that requires much more that a good case. It requires political goodwill and everyone working to make it happen. By this stage, the old "squeaky wheel" antagonism needs to be just a distant memory, with trust (re)built bewteen all parties. And it required a far wider constitution or players - not only the rail campaigers, but the local businesses, the education establishments who need to move their pupils, the rail companies, the track operators, teh community and the government too. We're moving - rapidly - from phase 2 to phase 3 at the moment; have a look at the TransWilts Rail website that was launched - no more that a flash page, but already with two surverys to draw in views and opinions. And "watch this space" there. Finally - the fourth element is to retain the service. There is little point in doing a huge amount of work, winning a service, only to find that it's lost again. That could happen politically, it could happen because the service was provided but not marketed, it could happen because it came back with inappropriate timings / a lack of reliability / expensive pricing. And it's up to the communities all along the route to make sure that it works. To feedback information to get the right offering, to feedback the right offering to the people who live along the way and want to use it, and to have a real sense of ownership from everyone. The community element of the third element, and of the fourth element too, is a Community Rail Partnership. We've already done a great deal of preliminary work on that over the last year, and worked with other groups too. I can point you to timetable leaflets, to station adoptions being worked on, and to a number of other exciting schemes we have in the melting pot. Many of the elements of a Community Rail Partnership depend on there being a saleable train service - and at present there are only limited opportunities there - but weve worked on things like the Santa special, a day our walking beside the Thames, and other events in the last year and there's much more planned. You'll see a lot more from the CRP in the next years and - I hope - a lot less need to see fireworks from "Save the Train". The "Save the Train" name has become somewhat historic, and let's make sure the need for it, in it's negative form, rapidly becomes historic too. Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: grahame on January 30, 2011, 21:45:53 One of the really exciting things about how we're moving forward at the moment is that we're looking at an appropriate service that will really do excellent things for the communities, and businesses across and beyond Wiltshire. OK - that sounds a bit 'woolly' but there's a number of services we could look at:
a) Current service - where you'll be hardpushed to find anyone who says it's the best timing of trains for the people along the corridor, even if they might say that 2 trains a day is what it should be. b) A level of service which tips the balance to a service which can be encouraged, nurture and will (we believe) grow. It needs to reach a critical mass to hit this level - just one more round trip at lunchtime would certainly not do it, as there's a need for a real selection of round trip possibilities. c) A level of service which is appropriate. That's subject to various reviews / considerations / looks at the moment, but it's something like a train every hour or two during the day, with it being cleverly run to be hourly at peak times, and to provide for all the major flows not just the Swindon commute. d) Hourly from before dawn to after dusk, even in midsummer. The exciting thing is that we're looking forward - with option (c). And we're not just looking at the narrow option, but questions like "will the station car parks cope" and "how do we deal with the bus connections" are being asked. And "where then" too. One of the "wherethen"s concerns Lyneham / Wootton Bassett; the observant have noticed Wootton Bassett in green on the map, and the word "future" against it. There's a definite aspiration, and a definite case for a station, there. At present, only HSTs run through WB most of the day, so if a station were built, there would be nothing to stop from about 07:40 until 18:55 - and you would have a mini-Melksham - a town with a shamefully sparse service for its population, and a perpetual thorn in the side of the track and operator companies. Once you put on a TransWilts service of about 10 trains each way, each day, regional (as opposed to intercity) service levels through WB become sufficient for a station there to really work. Add the closure of Lyneham and the redevelopment needed, parkway possibilities, and it starts to look sensible. The current TransWilts proposals do not depend on WB. But they are being crafted so that services could stop there with a handful of minutes of adjustement, and the timetable is being crafted quite close to the same times in each hour that it runs, so that there's no "all change" needed if these enhancements were to come about. So - the 'pitch' is that the new TransWilts services will give you commutes to Swindon. And to other stations on the line too. Lots of jobs near the station in Westbury, get there from Chippenham. Lots of jobs coming to Melksham - just up the road from the station. And we'll welcome commuters. And ... gosh ... the CRP is getting together on 7th and 8th and we'll have a long list for you. Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: grahame on January 31, 2011, 00:20:36 There's new houses going up at East Melksham - people are moving in, and their only way on / off the area if they don't have cars is a walk of about half a mile to Snowberry Lane or to Churchill Avenue. It strikes me as a recipe for persuading them to buy more cars. But then ... no-one's going to want to run a near-empty bus while it's just a few occupied houses on a building site.
One of the effects of the TransWilts proposals is that there will be a considerably improved service at Dilton Marsh. And that improved service will make the station a really good place from which to commute to Chippenham, Swindon, Salisbury, Bath and Bristol - lots of housing within easy walking distance of the station, and the probability of substantial traffic. I wonder how long it will take off the "stops on request only" label on the trains. Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: grahame on February 09, 2011, 05:58:11 I understand we now have over 1000 survey answers at http://www.transwiltsrail.org.uk ... and I encourage anyone / everyone who lives in or passes through Wiltshire to complete it in the next week. The inputs will form one of the threads of information on which plans are made for 2012 ... and we need as much feedback as possible to ensure that trains are going to be in the right place at the right time; this survey can make a difference, especially on weekend services (the public survey) and overall (the business one)
Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: IndustryInsider on February 09, 2011, 11:55:48 Exciting times, Graham. I bet you've got everything crossed and waiting for December will be agony!
Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: anthony215 on February 09, 2011, 12:47:37 Wouldn' t this new improved service depend on whether or not FGW received the class 150's from London Miland soon?
Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: paul7575 on February 09, 2011, 12:52:39 Wouldn' t this new improved service depend on whether or not FGW received the class 150's from London Miland soon? Not really, because the LM 150s do not provide any additional units. They are simply replacing stock currently on loan 'one for one' (give or take minor efficicencies due to standardisation of the fleet). Paul Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: grahame on March 11, 2011, 19:02:29 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12714614
Very good meeting / presentation / update. ;D ;D Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: grahame on March 13, 2011, 07:57:59 Very good meeting / presentation / update. ;D ;D ... with a supporter's update / brief now published at http://atrebatia.info/update.html Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 13, 2011, 11:10:40 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12723869):
Quote TransWilts campaign group celebrates extra trains trial Campaigners for extra train services in Wiltshire are celebrating after First Great Western agreed to trial extra services in the county. The decision was taken after the TransWilts group presented their case to local politicians and businesses. The group presented results of a survey they conducted into the county's rail services to Wiltshire Council on Friday. The trial is due to start on 24 July and finish on 11 September. Graham Ellis, from the TransWilts group, said: "We are delighted that First Great Western and all other parties involved are getting together to give people good day trip opportunities on a Sunday for the first time in years." Simon Doggett, from First Great Western, said: "One of the key issues on rolling stock is that it's essentially determined at the national government level. So while a deregulated company, let's say a bus company, can go and get a bus, the environment is very different on the railway with the amount of regulation in place." Both of the new services, being trialled, will operate on Sundays. One will run from Swindon to Weymouth in the morning with a connecting return service calling at Melksham and Chippenham. The other service will run from Westbury, Trowbridge and Melksham connecting at Swindon for a service to London. Chris ;) :D ;D Edit by Graham ... sorry to come in and amend your post rather than following up, but it's being pointed out to me that there are some elements of - err - 2 + 2 = 7 in the BBC's report and I'm adding a quiet correction not a new post a) Dates to be agreed - but would be "high summer" - also still subject to things like possessions being checked. b) Not a 'trial' - that's an assumption that has been made somewhere Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: IndustryInsider on March 13, 2011, 11:13:50 Thanks for the update, Graham. Looks like a busy couple of months for you still ahead!
Title: Re: TransWilts Rail Post by: anthony215 on March 13, 2011, 12:39:21 good to see something come about as a result of everything who is capaigning for a better rail service along this route.
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