Title: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Electric train on December 28, 2010, 10:58:48 The Kennett & Avon Canal runs along much of the Berks n Hants making it such a picturesque route http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12083685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-12083685)
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 09, 2011, 17:38:18 On BBC Four (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01173hc):
Quote Julia starts this walk in the beautiful world heritage city of Bath, where the Kennet and Avon Canal provided a 19th century 'canal superhighway' between the country's two most important ports, Bristol and London. But only forty years later the trade along the canal was usurped by rail travel, leaving the once great waterway neglected and derelict. Julia's 20-mile walk, along what is arguably the most picturesque stretch of the canal, tells the story of how the waterway was restored to its former glory after it was awarded the biggest ever lottery heritage grant. The walk ends at the spectacular Caen Hill flight of locks, listed as one of the seven wonders of British waterways. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 12, 2012, 23:13:15 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-20268590):
Quote A 'quiet zone' has been created on a stretch of canal in a Wiltshire village. (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64080000/jpg/_64080905_quietzonesign-1.jpg) Signs have been put up along the Kennet and Avon Canal near Pewsey asking boaters to avoid running generators or playing loud music. The parish council had planned to ban all boats mooring between Honeystreet Bridge and west of the Barge Inn due to "ongoing problems with noise". But at a meeting it was agreed to create a quiet mooring zone instead. Charles Reiss, from Alton Parish Council, said he hoped the 'Q Sign' could be "repeated as a working model at other problem points". He said: "It was agreed as a co-operative project between local residents, boaters and the Canal and River Trust - and it seems to be working. "There are no consequences - it doesn't have any teeth but boaters appear to want to cooperate and are mooring beyond the Barge Inn outside the zone." Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: paul7575 on November 13, 2012, 10:56:52 Warning signs about running engines near private property are fairly commonplace on the canal system already, this is not a new idea at all. I'd question about the rules having no teeth as well, as the existing licence conditions (at least since 2000 when I got my boat) already include an embargo on running engines overnight wherever someone else may be affected.
Quote 4. Whilst the Boat is on the Waterway, you must not: (b) use any electricity generator, including the Boat's engine, at any mooring along the Waterway between 8pm and 8am, unless you are moored in isolation, out of earshot of other people. [We do not intend this Rule to stop you moving the Boat from the mooring.] (c) run the Boat^s engine in gear when it is moored as this can damage the waterway walls and cause a nuisance to other people. As in many areas of life, it will be lack of enforcement of the existing rules that has led to this... Paul Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: bobm on June 20, 2013, 12:45:27 From Get Reading (http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/pub-landlord-convicted-stealing-great-4687371)
Quote Pub landlord convicted of marker theft 20 Jun 2013 12:19 (http://i2.getreading.co.uk/incoming/article4687372.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/TM570983-4687372.jpg) The licensee of the Rising Sun pub in Woolhampton has been convicted of stealing an historic boundary marker from the banks of the Kennet and Avon Canal. He was caught by a canal volunteer who spotted the stolen iron boundary marker for sale on eBay. Wayne Sangwell, 44, of Kestrels Mead, Tadley, denied the theft, but was convicted by Reading magistrates on Monday, June 3. Sangwell was running the Kennet and Avon Canal caf^ and shop under contract at the time of the theft. A canal trust volunteer played detective and found the missing boundary marker which had been sold on eBay. The Great Western Railway iron boundary marker, which dates back to 1917, was stolen last autumn from the gardens of the listed Aldermaston Wharf Cottage on the Kennet and Avon canalside. A volunteer heritage advisor for the Kennet and Avon Canal Trust was quickly on the case. Trawling eBay, he saw the item had been sold, who had bought it and traced the thief. Sangwell was fined ^110 plus ^270 costs. David Viner, heritage advisor, who was one of those who helped retrieve the marker, said: ^We are delighted to have tracked the boundary marker down and got it back safely, it^s an important part of the history of the railway and canal. ^Thanks must go to volunteers from the Kennet and Avon Canal Trust too, as they wouldn^t let it lie. ^When someone suggested eBay it sounded like looking for a needle in a haystack. ^Fortunately, the thief had placed a photo of the marker online which included part of the canal cottage in the view. ^The buyer was mortified when we got in touch, but credit to them for returning it so swiftly. ^Heritage theft like this is on the increase. ^But it^s not just canals, there have been recent examples of vandals plundering major archaeological sites, listed buildings and especially churches where thieves target the lead roofing. ^That^s why we need to take action. ^The thief knew exactly what he was doing. We are very happy that the police and courts have pursued this case. Hopefully it will serve as a warning to others and make them think twice about following suit.^ The Great Western Railway Company owned the Kennet and Avon Canal for nearly a century and its distinctive cast-iron boundary markers were used when there was no natural boundary, like a wall or road, to mark the border of their land. The marker has an embossed head bearing details of the company which is attached to a section of railway track very well set into the ground. Removal of heritage assets and similar crimes are an increasing problem nationally. As well as benefitting from the work of volunteers, the trust works closely on cases with bodies such as English Heritage, which has set up the Alliance to Reduce Crime against Heritage (ARCH) and also has a police inspector seconded to it as its national policing a dviser. Sangwell featured in the news recently when a lorry jack-knifed and ran into the Rising Sun pub on the A4 Bath Road. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 16, 2014, 18:12:44 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-26602269):
Quote Capsized narrow boat closes canal near Bath (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73616000/jpg/_73616174_73614110.jpg) The boat capsized on Saturday afternoon forcing the closure of the canal The Kennet and Avon Canal is to remain partially closed near Bath until at least Tuesday after a narrow boat capsized in a lock. It happened at Lock 11, Abbey View Lock, at about 14:00 GMT on Saturday. A spokesman for the Canal and River Trust said it had been caused by the boat getting stuck on the sill at the back of the lock as water drained out. A crane required to lift the boat out will not be on site until Tuesday or Wednesday, the spokesman added. It means a 600m (650yds) stretch of canal between Bath Bottom Lock to Bath Top lock has been closed to canal traffic. Nobody was injured in the incident, the spokesman said. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Cynthia on March 17, 2014, 09:17:28 "Roll roll roll your boat
Gently down the stream....." Oh, that was mean, wasn't it? So who will have to pick up the bill for recovery? I assume it's a holiday let, and the hand-over would have included a warning about keeping away from the cills when in the lock, so will the helms(wo)man have to pay, or is this kind of incident covered by the letting company's insurance? Good job no-one was hurt, anyway. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Richard Fairhurst on March 17, 2014, 09:25:33 "Cillings" are pretty common. It'll be the Canal & River Trust that organises getting a crane on site; not sure whether Hilperton Marina/ABC Leisure (the boat hire company) will reimburse them for the expense.
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 17, 2014, 18:32:24 I'm curious as to why the narrowboat crew, who would have been operating the lock gates, didn't notice as soon as their boat started tipping and lower the paddles again, to prevent the situation from reaching the stage of a fairly comprehensive capsize? ::)
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: grahame on March 17, 2014, 19:35:20 I'm curious as to why the narrowboat crew, who would have been operating the lock gates, didn't notice as soon as their boat started tipping and lower the paddles again, to prevent the situation from reaching the stage of a fairly comprehensive capsize? ::) Multiple choice 1) If you haven't heeded the warnings from the hire company on picking up the boat. If you haven't seen the cills in any of the six previous locks you've gone down from Trowbridge - which you'll have been within 5 yards of if you're the driver and they will have towered over you as the lock emptied. If you haven't see the white painted "CILL" markings and lines on the lock side. And if you didn't read up ahead of time before taking over a boat of 8 or 9 tons ... then are you going to notice the boat tipping? Some people are not very observant. 2) It started to happen ... and the people with the boat ran round shouting "don't panic" rather than actually doing something about it. People react differently in different circumstances. Perhaps everyone jumped on board to gather prize possessions rather than fixing the issue? 3) The crew was so but celebrating passage through the deep lock just above that mum and dad went below / nipped into the shop and left the kids to do the boat. 4) The boat started well forwards, but it's possible in that in this lock the opening of the paddles creates a vertical whirlpool that pulls the boat back. There are some locks that pull like that; if you're a regular you get to know them and to open the paddles gently and hold a rope (don't tie the rope up - you'll end up with suspended boat syndrome!) 5) A combination of some or all of the above I've spent many, many happy days running a narrowboat and been through locks thousands of times. You get to a feel, an understanding of how it's flowing and it becomes natural to safely resolve little issues - to note the odd tipping and bit of movement and to correct almost automatically. But the first time, when you're raw - well, Bath locks are daunting Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Tim on March 17, 2014, 19:50:27 don't know much about boats, but it surprises me that a crane is needed to sort this out. Can't the boat be manhandled to an upright position in the optimal depth of water for such an operation and then pumped out as necessary. Obviously not, but I'm not sure why not.
Even if the boat does need to be lifted is a mobile crane really needed. Are suitable anchor points not available for using with a portable winch or a rope, block and a few strong blokes? Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: stuving on March 17, 2014, 20:05:56 I'm curious as to why the narrowboat crew, who would have been operating the lock gates, didn't notice as soon as their boat started tipping and lower the paddles again, to prevent the situation from reaching the stage of a fairly comprehensive capsize? ::) Or, (more briefly), angular momentum? I too thought that our Victorian forefathers wouldn't call in a crane - a hand winch, and perhaps a big baulk of wood, should do it, surely? Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Red Squirrel on March 17, 2014, 20:15:50 When ships became stranded by the falling tide in the Avon in Victorian times, the Bristol port authority used to blow them up - and then charge the owner for the explosives.
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Cynthia on March 17, 2014, 22:40:19 When ships became stranded by the falling tide in the Avon in Victorian times, the Bristol port authority used to blow them up - and then charge the owner for the explosives. I wonder if there would be less cars stranded in the mud on Weston and Brean beaches if that policy was resurrected! Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 22, 2014, 00:23:47 An update, from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-26662982):
Quote Capsized narrow boat removed from canal lock near Bath (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73706000/jpg/_73706100_20140320_094020.jpg) The hired boat is thought to have rolled over after getting caught on a ledge at the back of the lock A capsized narrow boat which partially closed the Kennet and Avon Canal near Bath for five days has been removed. Lock 11 on the Kennet and Avon Canal near Widcombe, was closed on Saturday after a hired boat overturned. According to the Canal and River Trust, the boat rolled over after getting caught on a ledge at the back of the lock as water drained out. A 30m (98 ft) winch was used to pull the boat off the cill before the water was pumped out and it was refloated. The canal is set to reopen later on Friday but the canal below the lock needs to be topped up with water before it is reopened to boats Joe Coggins, from the trust, said: "We had to use a winch to twist the boat back into position because we couldn't get a big enough crane on to the tow path. But we haven't had to drain the lock completely and we haven't had to do a fish rescue, as there was enough water in the bottom of the lock." Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: stuving on March 22, 2014, 08:39:51 An update, from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-26662982): Quote A 30m (98 ft) winch was used to pull the boat off the cill before the water was pumped out and it was refloated. Now which dimension of that winch would be 30 m? And is that its most important parameter? Looking at this picture sequence (http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/pictures/Salvaging-canal-boat-stuck-weir-Widcombe/pictures-20833836-detail/pictures.html#1), it appears that the main thing that they did was to put flotation bags underneath it - and did not, in fact, keep it anywhere near level while it was being pumped out. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: TonyK on March 23, 2014, 22:12:44 "Roll roll roll your boat Gently down the stream....." Oh, that was mean, wasn't it? So who will have to pick up the bill for recovery? I assume it's a holiday let, and the hand-over would have included a warning about keeping away from the cills when in the lock, so will the helms(wo)man have to pay, or is this kind of incident covered by the letting company's insurance? Good job no-one was hurt, anyway. I am a veteran of more than one canal boat holiday, both very enjoyable, and enable crossing the fantastic Pontcysyllte Aqueduct. (Pronounced "Pon-ki-suth-ti". Or "A-kwe-ducked"). We were given a YouTube link to an instructional video prior to taking up occupancy, and a full briefing on arrival. Both including considerable emphasis on avoiding the cill. It isn't difficult, because you drive a narrowboat from the back, and the sides of the lock are painted with white lines and the words "Avoid cill" or similar. You do not tie up in a lock, and the helmsman continues to drive against the inrush or outrush of water from the sluice and then the lock gate. We were also told of the first ever fatality on the Llangollen Canal, only a week before. The cause was someone reversing into a berth in a basin whilst sitting. The rudder struck the wall, the tiller spun around, and as the unfortunate gentleman was knocked into the water, his foot struck the throttle. Two later generations of his family witnessed his demise, the gruesome details of which I shall not go into here. The correct "uphill" procedure is available here, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mMBSS8Oh-E)thanks to the throughly lovely Mrs FT,N, our commentator and pundit, and my youngest daughter and my son-in-law on lock duties. FT,N, ever the master mariner. is in charge Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: grahame on March 23, 2014, 22:41:55 HOWEVER ... in a wide lock such as the K&A, you may we advised to use ropes to stop the boat crashing across the lock, and you may need to open paddles in the right order. But don't tie it - have crew control it. The Shroppie / Llangollen - your film - is narrow locks.
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 23, 2014, 23:08:15 The correct "uphill" procedure is available here, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mMBSS8Oh-E)thanks to the throughly lovely Mrs FT,N, our commentator and pundit, and my youngest daughter and my son-in-law on lock duties. FT,N, ever the master mariner. is in charge Many thanks for posting that delightful link: there's a certain irony in 'Four Track, Now!' being seen at the tiller of narrowboat 'In My Own Time No. 50' ;) :D ;D Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Richard Fairhurst on March 24, 2014, 09:15:00 We were also told of the first ever fatality on the Llangollen Canal, only a week before. The cause was someone reversing into a berth in a basin whilst sitting. The rudder struck the wall, the tiller spun around, and as the unfortunate gentleman was knocked into the water, his foot struck the throttle. Two later generations of his family witnessed his demise, the gruesome details of which I shall not go into here. Absolutely imperative that you stand forward of the tiller when reversing, for exactly that reason. There are many that say you should never stand beside the tiller at all, even when going forward. I wouldn't go that far personally (I stand ahead of it usually, but sometimes to the side when manoeuvring), but when I was editing Waterways World, we always got letters of complaint if we had the temerity to publish a cover photo with someone standing beside the tiller... Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: TonyK on March 24, 2014, 17:06:02 Many thanks for posting that delightful link: there's a certain irony in 'Four Track, Now!' being seen at the tiller of narrowboat 'In My Own Time No. 50' ;) :D ;D It wasn't lost on me at the time! They say it's the fastest way of slowing down. Absolutely imperative that you stand forward of the tiller when reversing, for exactly that reason. There are many that say you should never stand beside the tiller at all, even when going forward. I wouldn't go that far personally (I stand ahead of it usually, but sometimes to the side when manoeuvring), but when I was editing Waterways World, we always got letters of complaint if we had the temerity to publish a cover photo with someone standing beside the tiller... Not for the first time, I marvel at the vast pool of experience and knowledge, on practically any subject, to be found here in the Coffee Shop. :) Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Godfrey Tables on November 02, 2014, 15:00:08 Someone's sunk another one (Kennet & Avon - Bath):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-29870376 Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 02, 2014, 17:31:02 I like the way that the BBC is now quoting random passers-by as expert opinion.
"Mr Wheeler added that the boat probably needed repairs and it looked like a crane could be needed to remove it." Presumably next time there's a derailment they'll flag down some nearby ramblers and quote their opinion on whether the train needs repairs. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: TonyK on November 02, 2014, 22:45:01 Speaking from a passing train, Mr Four Track, Now! said "It looks like another cill grounding. Might refloat it with pumps rather than crane, and if it was the height of summer, it could be fixed within days. I know a bit about aeroplanes too, and I can speak French, and cook if you want expert opinion about anything else. For cash, obviously, or drink."
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: grahame on November 14, 2014, 22:46:02 Someone's sunk another one (Kennet & Avon - Bath): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-29870376 News says refloated today and canal re-opened after two week stoppage. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Alan Pettitt on November 14, 2014, 23:24:30 Interesting that it (apparently) took two and a half hours to re-float it but the best part of a fortnight to think about re-floating it. I think I might go into business as a narrow boat salvage expert.
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: ChrisB on November 14, 2014, 23:32:50 Maybe the revovery equipment wasn't immediately available, and maybe it was also elsewhere on other canals?
Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: TonyK on November 16, 2014, 21:44:18 Interesting that it (apparently) took two and a half hours to re-float it but the best part of a fortnight to think about re-floating it. I think I might go into business as a narrow boat salvage expert. I think I shall go into business as a narrowboat salvage thinker. Day 1: "Put the money and the brandy on the table next to me, I'll get back to you" Day 14: "Hang on a minute, I've got an idea..." One went down in similar fashion on the Llangollen Canal during my sojourn there. It was the birthday of a girl in the party, aged about 9 or so, and her presents were wrecked along with the family's holiday, but the boat was back in the yard the following morning. There may be reasons why it took so long in this case. In the video I posted earlier, there is another participant out of shot - my first grandson, than aged 6 months, fast asleep in the cabin. Concentrates the mind, that does. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: paul7575 on November 17, 2014, 09:47:58 Maybe the revovery equipment wasn't immediately available, and maybe it was also elsewhere on other canals? At this time of year they are well into routine closures for lock maintenance, if similar equipment is used when replacing lock gates and such like that may well be a factor. Paul Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 08, 2015, 22:54:01 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33807507):
Quote Kennet and Avon Canal restoration anniversary marked (http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/55C9/production/_84716912_caenhilllocksonthekennet-avoncanal.jpg) The world famous Caen Hill locks were the last section of the restoration to be completed for the reopening in 1990 Canal enthusiasts are to celebrate 25 years of the restoration of the Kennet and Avon Canal. The waterway was completely restored by volunteers after falling into decline and was officially reopened by the Queen on 8 August 1990. It was originally opened in 1810, but gradually fell into decline after the Great Western Railway was built. Volunteers will re-enact the reopening at the Caen Hill lock flight, which is a Scheduled Ancient Monument later. (http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/2BCC/production/_84721211_2caenhillc1970.jpg) Caen Hill locks had become completely overgrown in the 1970s before they were restored The 87-mile waterway links the River Thames at Reading to the River Avon in Bath. The last time the complete length was navigable, before it was restored, was in 1950, when a stoppage at Burghfield near Reading made the canal impassable. Major structures along its route also include the Dundas and Avoncliff aqueducts and Bruce Tunnel. (http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/128B9/production/_84716957_caenhilllocks1950.jpg) Caen Hill locks in 1950 Richard Parry, chief executive of the Canal and River Trust, said: "It's all down to the volunteers and the incredible amount of work they did that [the canal] is here. The Kennet and Avon Canal really does enrich the lives of everyone around it, and this is a great opportunity to celebrate it and the achievement of those who restored it." Rob Dean, chairman of the Kennet and Avon Canal Trust, said: "Restoration of the Kennet and Avon has proved a huge success for our community. The volunteers who led the restoration from the 50s to the 90s have given us a great legacy which we're pleased to help care for and improve." The success of the canal restoration spurred on the other restorations across the country. (http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/16351/production/_84716909_5cobblerslock72oct64.jpg) Cobblers Lock in 1964 (http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/2EB9/production/_84716911_limpleystokebridge1977.jpg) Limpley Stoke Bridge in 1977 Title: Kennet & Avon Canal Post by: Mark A on August 23, 2022, 10:14:02 The Kennet and Avon summit has closed ufn as an (unspecified) electric pump has failed. A reminder that, into the west country, it's not only the rail infrastructure that's fragile.
Mark Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: ray951 on August 23, 2022, 11:57:32 When this happened previously they bought the steam pumping station back into use, presumably they could do the same today although I guess it takes quite a few hours to get the steam up to pressure.
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: Mark A on August 23, 2022, 12:19:01 A Canal and River Trust leaflet quotes the running costs for pumping the water supply for the K&A as £300,000 per annum. The impending rise in electricity prices has... implications though it would be an odd world in which there was a return to coal fired steam for that task.
Also, it's not stated as to which pump has failed. It may well be that the level of the 'reservoir' at Crofton is woeful, and the item that has failed may be in the chain of pumps that backpumps water from the Avon at Bath. Mark Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: grahame on August 23, 2022, 12:44:25 I would suspect that that number of boats going through the canal these days is far, far higher than it ever was in commercial days, and that the traffic concentrates on the warmest and driest months. Should the Canal remain open to boats that carry an onboard pump, and can empty a lock by pumping water back into the pound above rather that releasing it through paddles to the pound below?
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: bradshaw on August 23, 2022, 19:06:28 We visited the Caen flight a couple of weeks ago, in the middle of the dry spell and they were only operating the locks between 10.00 and 13.00 daily.
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: Clan Line on August 23, 2022, 19:14:50 We had a day boat two weeks ago today and were warned then that canal water levels were low. That was from Devizes to Allington and back......no locks.
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: broadgage on August 24, 2022, 00:52:01 It should be possible to install solar powered pumps to lift water back to the upper reservoir. There is at least an approximate coincidence between maximum solar energy and maximum need for water.
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: broadgage on August 24, 2022, 04:13:05 I would suspect that that number of boats going through the canal these days is far, far higher than it ever was in commercial days, and that the traffic concentrates on the warmest and driest months. Should the Canal remain open to boats that carry an onboard pump, and can empty a lock by pumping water back into the pound above rather that releasing it through paddles to the pound below? I doubt that would be practical. A canal lock holds about 140,000 litres of water. A large portable fire pump can handle as much as 1,400 litres of water a minute, so about 100 minutes to pump the water from the lock into the upper pound. And that is for a large and expensive fire pump, many are of lower capacity. Needs petrol, dangerous on board a boat, expensive, polluting, noisy. OTOH a fixed solar powered electric pump could in Summer work all day at appreciable capital cost but almost no running cost and almost zero carbon emissions, silent. I cant see any REGULAR return to coal burning steam power. If however such equipment remains in place, then OCCAISIONAL use in a drought might be worthwhile. Especially if vintage engine enthusiasts pay to watch it, and provide some free labour. Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: CyclingSid on August 24, 2022, 07:38:35 If the K & A is low, I hate to think what state the Basingstoke Canal will be in.
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: Bmblbzzz on August 24, 2022, 09:36:32 I would suspect that that number of boats going through the canal these days is far, far higher than it ever was in commercial days, and that the traffic concentrates on the warmest and driest months. Should the Canal remain open to boats that carry an onboard pump, and can empty a lock by pumping water back into the pound above rather that releasing it through paddles to the pound below? I doubt that would be practical. A canal lock holds about 140,000 litres of water. A large portable fire pump can handle as much as 1,400 litres of water a minute, so about 100 minutes to pump the water from the lock into the upper pound. And that is for a large and expensive fire pump, many are of lower capacity. Needs petrol, dangerous on board a boat, expensive, polluting, noisy. Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: broadgage on August 24, 2022, 10:30:53 A diesel pump could be used, but would be even larger and heavier than a petrol one of the same power. Unlikely to be portable. A gas turbine engine is possible, some fire brigades are trialing gas turbine portable pumps.
Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: Mark A on August 24, 2022, 11:02:30 Stoppages update from the Canal and River Trust, levels in the summit will now support navigation once more. They do not mention the fate of their failed pump, mind.
Mark https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices/23156-kennet-and-avon-canal-the-summit-pound Title: Re: Kennet and Avon at Crofton Post by: Fourbee on August 24, 2022, 12:29:52 If the K & A is low, I hate to think what state the Basingstoke Canal will be in. Mytchett pound (Ash Lock to the top of the Deepcut flight) is closed to powered craft. The way it's going when I saw it recently it will effectively be the same for unpowered craft, unless you just fancy sitting in your canoe going nowhere!Title: Kennet & Avon Canal Post by: CyclingSid on May 17, 2024, 15:52:57 The towpath and NCN 4 is broken between Fobney Lock and Southcote Lock, west of Reading. Two breaks in the towpath between Fobney Lock and the weir, one deep but there is some sheet piling retaining the water. Another between the Reading-Basingstoke line and Milkmaids Bridge at Southcote Lock, which I noticed some weeks ago from the train. Flow across the tow path is less than when I first noticed it. Not clear whether the sheet piling is new.
There is a closure sign at Fobney Lock. Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 29, 2024, 20:43:21 Many thanks for your update here, CyclingSid ;)
Have things improved there, by any chance, in the past few weeks? :-\ The Kennet & Avon Canal is my favourite - I've enjoyed a couple of great 'inland waterways' holidays there, courtesy of a friend who offered my family the use of his own narrowboat for a very nominal rate. I'd like to cycle the whole towpath, at my leisure in recent retirement - but I might just cheat a bit, and look into getting an electric bike. ::) Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: CyclingSid on June 30, 2024, 15:02:06 Chris, thanks for giving me an excuse for some post-Sunday lunch exercise!
The good news is that the three breaks in the towpath between Fobney and Southcote locks have been repaired. Basically surface dressing and a bit rough for a Brompton. But there is work on the A33 where it crosses the canal just after where the canal meets Foudry Brook. It looks like they are going to widen the bridge an extra bus lane, and hang a bike lane off the side?? RBC has waffled about this for so long that it becomes difficult to separate fact from fiction. It does restrict joining the tow path to a single option, as opposed to two or three previously. Not sure how or when extending the bridge will affect the towpath. Sid Title: Re: Kennet & Avon Canal - ongoing discussion, anniversaries and incidents Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 30, 2024, 15:24:18 Thanks, Sid! ;D
That still amounts to some progress, though. ;) CfN This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |