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Title: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: inspector_blakey on December 23, 2010, 15:19:59
http://www.bringbackbritishrail.org (http://www.bringbackbritishrail.org)

Is there a reason they've got the double arrow back-to-front (DfT owning the rights to the logo possibly) or did they just mess up? The only time it was ever that way round was on one side of the funnels on Sealink ships so that the arrow was notionally pointing forwards on both sides of the vessel. The correct way round is easy to envisage if you remember that it's supposed to represent a double track railway with the direction of travel indicated, and trains in the UK generally stick to the left, just like cars.


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: Tim on December 23, 2010, 16:55:11
Is it not the wrong way round to imply a "reversal" of privatisation?


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: Electric train on December 23, 2010, 17:47:20
From their comments page .......
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  G
You've got the logo back to front for starters!

But good ideas here! :)

Hello G,

Thanks for your comment.
The logo is back-to-front on purpose! The idea is that it looks just like the old British Rail, but at the same time looks totally different. We wanted to hint at the idea of looking back in order to move forward (which we hope a new improved, integrated rail network would do), but also at the idea that a new British Rail has be different, better and more forward thinking than its previous, failed incarnation was. We hope the logo alludes both a sense of nostalgia about the past, but also an innovative approach to tackling our future public transport needs in the UK.


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: SDS on December 23, 2010, 17:58:53
Ah yes the good old arrow of indecision. I think the actual owner of the arrow was the SRA.

The current one (national rail) is owned by:

Applicant:THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR TRANSPORT
Great Minister House, 76 Marsham Street, London, United Kingdom, SW1P 4DR.


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: Lee on December 23, 2010, 18:26:49
Ah yes the good old arrow of indecision. I think the actual owner of the arrow was the SRA.

I'm not sure that "Bring Back The SRA" would be a runner, personally...


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: signalandtelegraph on December 23, 2010, 19:57:09
Weren't the logos on Sealink ferries this way round as well?


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: inspector_blakey on December 23, 2010, 20:00:41
Yes - see original post above ;)


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: onthecushions on January 02, 2011, 19:06:47
http://www.bringbackbritishrail.org (http://www.bringbackbritishrail.org)

Is there a reason they've got the double arrow back-to-front (DfT owning the rights to the logo possibly) or did they just mess up? The only time it was ever that way round was on one side of the funnels on Sealink ships so that the arrow was notionally pointing forwards on both sides of the vessel. The correct way round is easy to envisage if you remember that it's supposed to represent a double track railway with the direction of travel indicated, and trains in the UK generally stick to the left, just like cars.

The rule of the road afloat is keep right, hence SeaLink's arrows. I never saw reversal (to left forward) on BR ships, but some may know better.

"If both lights you see ahead, starboard wheel and show your red"

I think that Bring Back BR is a campaign worthy of support, although I don't approve of putting stickers on railway property, however good the message. A new BR wouldn't mean an end to FGW, just a single mind directing the industry as a single travel mode competing with other modes.

Happy New Year

OTC


Title: Re: "Bring back British Rail" campaign
Post by: signalandtelegraph on January 03, 2011, 08:41:51
Yes - see original post above ;)

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