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What way are they running

Just looked to book an advance from BPW and there are no direct trains - but there seem to be fro Cardiff

With two large suitcases I am not scrumming at Temple meads!

Which way are the running?

I believe they are running to Patchway with bus connection to BPW

if that can be confirmed ill just go from patchway

confirmed but be aware patchway can only accomodate about 4 coaches so you will have to drag your cases through a couple of coaches.  And the trains do stop at temple meads as well

16F coach H - is that a two seat table or a 4 seat?

It's a two-seater. Layout runs like this:

01(aisle)02,03
04(aisle)05,06
07(aisle)08,09
10(aisle)11,12 etc,

with all of the above having the traditional F/B labelling for forward or backward-facing seats respectively. So if the number of your seat follows the formula 3n+1, where n is a whole number, then it's a two-seater table not a 4.

See this is why I get into a scrum - I need a four seater - impossible to have laptop, book and paper on a two seater!

I don't hog the thing - plenty of space since on a sunday its unlikely all four are going to be using it - some are reading, some are sleeping, some just drinking coffee

And I know I have no right to more than a 1/4 but if you can get on one, most people don't mind

There is the question as to whether 0 is whole number though

Or is it even a number at all

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If we're going to be clever about things then, I'll say "integer" instead of "whole number", since that definitely includes 0. Self-evidently, before anyone starts, that needs to be a positive integer seeing as FGW don't use negative seat numbers. Happy...?!

Perfectly now

I f your are going to give formulas like 3n+1 where n is a whole number I could look for seat -8F

Rather that confuse us all with maths (well, I'm confused!), how about this:

(http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt68/bignosemac/HSTHsmall.jpg)

 ;)

But surely in Algebra 3n+1 is expressed as 3 x n + 1?? ;D

Or should I just keep my nose out and drink my coffee...??! Hmm, that might be a better idea ;D ::) :P

No, you'd never write 3 x n + 1

3.n + 1 perhaps, but then what is wrong with 3n+1, if it were 3(n+1) you'd simply use brackets due to the laws of BIDMAS/BODMAS. Brackets, Indices, Division, Multiplication etc...

I think you may have misunderstood Devon Metro Sir :o

I know that you would never write: 3 x n + 1

But 3n+1 means just that AFAIK...?!

Or am I not doing the formula correctly?? Sorry, I used to be able to do Maths... But lost my confidence about 4 years ago, now I struggle with my times tables... :D :o ::)

You are correct - however I am not getting what your original point was!

Unless it is something to do with the zero discussion in which case to get seat 1 a necessary condition is that n=0

 ???

Confused.com

Kids today.

3(n + 1) = 3n + 3 when you expand the bracket, since the bracket just indicates that you multiply everything in it by three.

 ::) ;D

What zero discussion anyway...? 0 is certainly a number, and qualifies as an integer. In this case, since the seat numbers only go up to 24, the permissible values are that 0 is less than or equal to n, which in turn is less than or equal to seven.

Last year, I took a maths unit as part of my degree.  This was aimed at students with A-Level maths.  I was shocked to turn up to the first lecture (http://www.maths.bris.ac.uk/~mamz/notes/1a-notesch1.pdf) to be told "The Positive Integers are the numbers 1,2,3,...".   ::)

Could be worse, I pitched up at the first maths lecture of my chemistry degree, again, supposedly accessible for those with A levels maths. The lecturer immediately launched into complicated discussions which, if my memory serves, involved algebraic limits and partial differential equations, netiehr of which I'd ever encountered before and both of which left me utterly baffled. It only got worse from there on in. Didn't halp that the lecturer was an angry little man with an almost comical resemblence to a garden gnome.

And in light of the fact that this thread has not descended into a discussion of algebra rather than having anything to do with train services on 19 Dec, I've shifter it to the lighter side!