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Title: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris2 on November 17, 2010, 08:22:21 Train services are currently suspended due to flooding and landslides.
There is a landslide at Lostwithiel and at Luxulyan. The national rail website does not state how long the disruption will continue for. Title: Flooding results in serious disruption in the west Post by: broadgage on November 17, 2010, 09:20:59 Suprised that AFAIK no one else has posted this.
Severe flooding in parts of Cornwall, rail line expected to be shut for at least 2 days. More details on the FGW website. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Super Guard on November 17, 2010, 09:22:09 From nationalrail.co.uk
Route affected Penzance, Truro, Par, Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, Plymouth, Totnes and Exeter St Davids TOC(s) affected CrossCountry, First Great Western Description A landslip is causing disruption in the Lostwithiel area. Because of this, buses are replacing trains between Par and Liskeard. Although only a limited bus replacement service is available at this time and therefore only essential journeys should be made. This is expected to continue until the end of the day. Note: There is also a limited bus replacement service running non stop between Truro and Plymouth. Trains on the branch lines between Penzance and Plymouth are running normally, except for trains between Newquay and Par which are also suspended. Tickets First Great Western tickets for today will accepted on services for tomorrow. First Great Western and Cross Country are accepting each others tickets today on journeys between Penzance and Plymouth. Title: Re: Flooding results in serious disruption in the west Post by: Super Guard on November 17, 2010, 09:23:11 Suprised that AFAIK no one else has posted this. Severe flooding in parts of Cornwall, rail line expected to be shut for at least 2 days. More details on the FGW website. They have :) http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7997.0 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: The SprinterMeister on November 17, 2010, 09:30:06 1C99, the down sleepers ran through floodwater and debris on the line at Brown Queen Tunnel near Lostwithiel. 57605 sustained damage to windscreen due to flying rocks and mud. 1C99 terminated at Par.
Buses replacing trains between Liskeard & Par. Severe flooding in the area making these bus services prone to disruption as well. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Tim on November 17, 2010, 09:55:10 1C99, the down sleepers ran through floodwater and debris on the line at Brown Queen Tunnel near Lostwithiel. 57605 sustained damage to windscreen due to flying rocks and mud. 1C99 terminated at Par. I hope that the driver isn't too shaken by his experience Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: The SprinterMeister on November 17, 2010, 10:18:29 I hope that the driver isn't too shaken by his experience As far as I know he is ok. 57605 + stock now at Long Rock depot.Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: caliwag on November 17, 2010, 13:07:09 Radio 4 interview with FGW at 12:50 states that main line is open now to Penzance. Only travel if absolutely necessary though.
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: JayMac on November 17, 2010, 17:13:55 Two similar topics merged to avoid duplication. :)
bignosemac. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: JayMac on November 17, 2010, 17:18:28 I can confirm that the mainline reopened shortly after 1215. I arrived into Plymouth at 1222 and the next timetabled down service from PLY-PNZ departed as scheduled. Was informed by station staff that there was single line running and a 5mph speed limit on the affected section between Lostwithiel and Par.
Par to Newquay remains closed and will remain so for the next couple of days, according to FGW Live Updates. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: RailCornwall on November 17, 2010, 17:29:30 Showing a bit of ignorance here ....
Finding it virtually impossible to drive at less than 15mph, how does a train driver manage to keep to 5mph, is there some sort of auto limiter that is used? Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: SDS on November 17, 2010, 21:17:38 The 10:00 off PNZ arrived into PAD at 17:10. Only 106mins late!
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: inspector_blakey on November 17, 2010, 22:10:39 Showing a bit of ignorance here .... Finding it virtually impossible to drive at less than 15mph, how does a train driver manage to keep to 5mph, is there some sort of auto limiter that is used? Not as far as I am aware, except sometimes on good locos that have a "crawl" speed setting for automatically unloading coal trains whilst on the move. The driver just needs to be judicious and skillful in using the power and brake handles to maintain a constant low speed (bear in mind it's a very different driving technique from a car, of course - acceleration and retardation tend to happen much more slowly and the control handles generally stay in the notch where they're put rather than returning to a neutral position like the accelerator/footbrake in a car). Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: JayMac on November 17, 2010, 23:16:51 One thing that did strike me as a little odd was the PA announcement I heard at Exeter St Davids explaining the cancellation of an 'up' Paddington service.
A pre-recorded Phil Sayer announcing, "I'm sorry to announce that the xxxx to London Paddington has been cancelled. This is due to a landslip at Lostwithiel. Please listen for further announcements. I'm very sorry for the delay this will cause to your journey." Begs the question, has Phil Sayer recorded a 'landslip' announcement for every station on the network? If so, then I wonder what other specific disruptions he's recorded announcements for. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 17, 2010, 23:24:25 Hmm.
I rather think such announcements are compiled from a range of pre-recorded 'stock phrases' - in this case, by combining "This is due to" ... "a landslip" ... "at Lostwithiel". Sometimes it sounds quite professional, but it can sound rather 'clunky' sometimes: for example, at Nailsea, it's often quite obvious that separate recordings by Digital Doris have been 'cut and paste' into her announcements! Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: JayMac on November 17, 2010, 23:29:58 You're probably right, Chris. Phil's recordings do seem to stitch together very well. There was no noticeable 'break' in the, "a landslip at Lostwithiel" part of the announcement.
Still, he's obviously recorded "a landslip". So what else I wonder? Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: slippy on November 18, 2010, 00:01:26 re PAR to NQY, its more of a 'wash out' than a landslip, and if the line is open in a couple days I'll eat a 153. Its between Pontsmill and Rock Mill Viaduct, totally unacessable, think 153380 will be stuck at Goonbarrow for a while. I've seen some photos and heard from the crew, more weeks than days I think....
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: JayMac on November 18, 2010, 00:05:43 BBC news report and video of the flooding at Lostwithiel:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11772262 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 18, 2010, 00:50:24 The landslip seems to have happened before the problem was compounded by the flooding? See http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7979.0
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: SDS on November 18, 2010, 00:54:05 Internal document telling us what to tell the passengers said the NQY branch would be closed "for a couple of weeks". Also said to advise "not to travel to the west country today or tomorrow".
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Mookiemoo on November 18, 2010, 00:54:21 See that the sleeper is starting short at plymouth
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 18, 2010, 01:10:56 From the BBC report:
Quote Rail services have also been disrupted. The mainline track between Penzance and London Paddington was closed for several hours. The Newquay to Par branch line remains closed due to a storage tanker which has washed down on to the railway track and subsidence under the lines. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: slippy on November 18, 2010, 01:18:03 current 'washout' is nowhere near recent 'landslips'...
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: slippy on November 18, 2010, 01:21:59 From the BBC report: The Newquay to Par branch line remains closed due to a storage tanker which has washed down on to the railway track and subsidence under the lines. Small issue of the storage tanker away from the 'washout', will try to upload some pics tomorrow..... Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 18, 2010, 01:30:10 Thanks, slippy!
CfN. :) Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: The SprinterMeister on November 18, 2010, 10:13:26 See that the sleeper is starting short at plymouth The up sleeper (1A40) in fact started from Penzance using 57605 and stock, the damaged end of 57605 being coupled to the train. Unfortunately game over due to loss of traction power in the Hayle area. Passengers sent by Road to Plymouth for a HST departing Plymouth (as 1Z40) at 03:20.... Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Louis94 on November 18, 2010, 13:09:14 You're probably right, Chris. Phil's recordings do seem to stitch together very well. There was no noticeable 'break' in the, "a landslip at Lostwithiel" part of the announcement. Still, he's obviously recorded "a landslip". So what else I wonder? The system has 2 versions of most reasons, this being one with a location, and one without. For example: "a landslip at" "Lostwithiel" and then just, "a landslip" When you say about Phil's recordings being very well stitched together, you should compare it to Sarah/Anne at Paddington, that is an example of how not to do it. Rumour has it Sarah could be the new announcer of the FGW system, and this system also can't say locations like Phil/Celia can. :o Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 19, 2010, 00:27:42 Just for the record ... from FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services are being disrupted due to a landslip between Par and Newquay. Short notice cancellations can be expected. Train services between Par and Newquay have been suspended until further notice. The latest indication is that the line will remain closed for several days. Replacement road transport is currently in operation. This operates between between Par and Newquay in both directions for customers requiring to travel to or from intermediate stations. A separate non-stop coach service is in operation between St Austell and Newquay, and return. Customers will need to allow extra time for travelling to or from Newquay while these arrangements are in force. Last Updated: 18/11/2010 20:39 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: JayMac on November 19, 2010, 01:00:56 The British Geological Survey has a report of the Cornwall flooding on its website:
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/flooding/cornwall2010.html There are two aerial photos (last two of the set of thumbnails under the report) of the 'landslip' near Luxulyan on the Par-Newquay branch. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 19, 2010, 01:27:10 Thanks for that link, bignosemac!
Yes, that landslip does seem to have discomnadgerated the Newquay branch, fairly effectively! ::) Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 20, 2010, 16:41:33 Again, just for the record - from FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services are being disrupted due to a landslip between Par and Newquay. Short notice cancellations can be expected. Train services between Par and Newquay have been suspended until further notice. The latest indication is that the line will remain closed for the next seven days, an update will be available next week. Replacement road transport is currently in operation. This operates between between Par and Newquay in both directions for customers requiring to travel to or from intermediate stations. A separate non-stop coach service is in operation between St Austell and Newquay, and return. Customers will need to allow extra time for travelling to or from Newquay while these arrangements are in force. Last Updated: 20/11/2010 16:10 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: RailCornwall on November 23, 2010, 11:30:28 Par - Newquay closed 'till Mid-December'
more^. WWW.BBC.CO.UK/NEWS (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11820096) 23-Nov-2010 @ 11:29 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: IndustryInsider on November 23, 2010, 11:39:30 Looks like 'Slippy' won't have to eat a Class 153 then - which would have been interesting to watch, but would have done nothing for capacity in the area! ;)
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: winterbourne on November 24, 2010, 07:50:23 Dec 13th was mentioned on Radio Cornwall. The stranded unit may be roaded away from Rocks.
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 26, 2010, 20:22:21 Update, from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11848288):
Quote Cornish flood damage closes Luxulyan Valley footpaths People in Cornwall are being advised to avoid visiting a valley because access has been severely reduced after recent flooding and a railway line landslip. Several footpaths in the Luxulyan Valley have been closed because of the floods last week and damage to the Par to Newquay line, Cornwall Council said. Work has begun on repairing the railway embankment and footpaths. However, restrictions were likely to stay in place until the middle of December, the council said. Warning signs have been put up at paths which are closed. The Newquay branch line was closed by mudslides on the track near Luxulyan. It is not expected to reopen until mid-December, Network Rail said. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 28, 2010, 13:42:28 Latest information, from FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services are being disrupted due to a landslip between Par and Newquay. Short notice cancellations can be expected. Train services between Par and Newquay have been suspended until further notice. The latest indication is that the line will remain closed until the 6th December at the earliest. Replacement road transport is currently in operation. This operates between Par and Newquay in both directions. Customers will need to allow extra time for travelling to or from Newquay while these arrangements are in place. A revised road replacement timetable will be in operation from today, Saturday 27th November, and is available on the First Great Western website. Details of the replacement road transport which will operate from Monday 29th November until Friday 3rd December, inclusive, are also available on the website. Note that there is no scheduled Sunday service on the Newquay line at this time of year. Last Updated: 28/11/2010 10:36 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: The Tall Controller on November 28, 2010, 21:30:13 Seems quite quick given the original date estimated. Bodmin and Wenford having landslip problems of their own too.
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 29, 2010, 07:05:08 The National Rail website is saying
Following a landslip at Luxulyan on 17 November, trains between Newquay and Par have been suspended. This is expected to continue until at least Monday 13 December. Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Henry on December 01, 2010, 08:28:15 .
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris2 on December 07, 2010, 09:59:06 Just a quick update the Par - Newquay line reopened today.
Edit - to correct wording - Chris2 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: grahame on December 07, 2010, 16:01:30 Just a quick update the Par - Newquay line reopened today. ... and ... Quote Train services are being disrupted due to a broken down train between Par and Newquay.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected. Road Transport is currently being resourced.Last Updated: 07/12/2010 15:37 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: Chris2 on December 07, 2010, 16:31:07 Liskeard to Looe line also has problems with a broken down train.
Quote Line problem between Liskeard and Looe. Train services are being disrupted due to a broken down train between Liskeard and Looe.Short notice cancellations and delays can be expected. Road Transport is currently being resourced. Last Updated: 07/12/2010 15:57 Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: The Tall Controller on December 07, 2010, 20:08:36 Just a quick update the Par - Newquay line reopened today. ... and ... Quote Train services are being disrupted due to a broken down train between Par and Newquay.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected. Road Transport is currently being resourced.Last Updated: 07/12/2010 15:37 ::)Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: slippy on December 07, 2010, 20:40:46 6G07 Fowey to Goonbarrow china clay train failed between St.Blazey and Goonbarrow apx 14:40. Late afternoon Newquay services were running Newquay - Bugle - Newquay...
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: slippy on December 08, 2010, 12:49:20 DBS had to send an assisting loco from WESTBURY so having failed mid afternoon 6G07 arrived back at St.Blazey 22:30, 580 mins late. Newquay unit 153369 spent the night at Goonbarrow. This mornings 2N00 06:52 Par to Newquay was cancelled as a result.
Title: Re: Train service suspended Penzance-Plymouth and Par-Newquay Post by: devon_metro on December 08, 2010, 14:28:03 A nice bill for DBS then!
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