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Title: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2010, 12:14:09 From This is South Devon (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/totnes/Cheaper-ticket-victory-rail-users-group/article-2595705-detail/article.html):
Quote A Rail users' group in Totnes has claimed victory in its fight to stop a rise in London-bound fares. Totnes Rail Transport Group says it has persuaded First Great Western to change the rules so that passengers from South Devon can get cheap-rate early trains to London. It follows a recent ^15 rise in the price of the walk-on Super Off-Peak tickets. But the cheap-rate ticket passengers would not arrive until 3.24pm at the earliest by a direct train. Now, the group has announced it has been successful in persuading First Great Western to change the rules. Both the 09.22 train and the one at 10.14 will, from December 12, qualify for the Super Off-Peak fare of ^68.70 instead of ^84. The cheaper fare structure will apply for anyone boarding these trains at any station from the start of the route at Penzance. Previously passengers could catch several earlier trains for the cheapest fare and arrive by lunchtime. "The fares difference is more than ^15 from Totnes," said Ronnie Plagerson, Totnes Rail Transport Group's co-ordinator. "We pointed out to the railway company that this increase could be quite a hardship in this area." Totnes Rail Transport Group says it works for the benefit of local rail passengers. Ms Plagerson said: "We are concerned to maintain a balanced membership so that we can represent the views of all users, including students, business and leisure travellers." Anyone interested in joining Totnes Rail Transport Group should email plagerson@bridgetown.eclipse.co.uk or call 01803 866786. Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: devon_metro on September 02, 2010, 13:20:31 ^15 in a wealthy catchment area being a hardship? ???
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: Henry on September 02, 2010, 17:12:00 Perhaps that explains the increase in local Devon/Cornwall fares as from next week. Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: devon_metro on September 02, 2010, 17:31:57 Perhaps that explains the increase in local Devon/Cornwall fares as from next week. Expand... Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: Btline on September 02, 2010, 18:24:39 Good. These fare stealth rises are a disgrace and must be stopped.
Can someone please get the East Coast fares down please? A Stevenage to Durham SUPER Off Peak return is about ^90. That's daylight robbery and unacceptable. Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2010, 19:02:41 Perhaps that explains the increase in local Devon/Cornwall fares as from next week. Expand... Yes, Henry. Could you please give a source and some examples of these fares rises. I've done a check of about a dozen different fares for local journeys in Devon/Cornwall and have seen no increases. Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2010, 19:18:14 Good. These fare stealth rises are a disgrace and must be stopped. Can someone please get the East Coast fares down please? A Stevenage to Durham SUPER Off Peak return is about ^90. That's daylight robbery and unacceptable. Not aware that we have any stealth fares rises mentioned in this story. In fact we have an un-stealthy decrease. And I think you will be out of luck asking here to get East Coast fares reduced - I'd see if there's an East Coast Coffee Shop forum to pose that question - it'a a bit OT here! I'm amazed that the OP has generated these negative replies. Not one post saying "well done" to FGW for listening to passengers and readjusting the SSR timings. Okay, I'll do it: Well done First Great Western! :D Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: old original on September 02, 2010, 20:16:50 Minus point -From Monday there are a few 10p & 20p rises on odd off peak journeys, Truro - Falmouth being one.
Plus point - from January the Super-off peak times from the far west will be available on earlier services - but what rises are in store - RPI + 1%?? Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2010, 20:49:27 Thanks for that old original. I stand corrected. Apologies to Henry. :-[
A bit more digging and I've found that fares to three of the four Cornish branches are seeing this 10p/20p increase in the Off Peak fares, mostly from the main line station serving the branch and some surrounding stations. St Ives excepted. Haven't found any increases for journeys wholly on the Cornish main line. In Devon, Exmouth and Paignton branches also see the increase. Oh, and revisiting the original story. It says that FGW are introducing the reduced Supers from the timetable change and not the January fares round. Won't that be a bit difficult to implement? Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: super tm on September 02, 2010, 21:03:53 . Oh, and revisiting the original story. It says that FGW are introducing the reduced Supers from the timetable change and not the January fares round. Won't that be a bit difficult to implement? Not really. There are 3 fares rounds a year and they are introducing them in the September Fares round. ;D Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2010, 21:14:21 Are you sure super tm? I've just checked online booking engines and the Super Off Peak from Totnes to Paddington is the same price for tomorrow and post 5th Sept, with the same time restrctions, ie: first direct arrival at 1524.
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: old original on September 02, 2010, 21:28:16 I correct myself, the adjustment to the time restrictions on super off peak will take place in December, BEFORE Januarys fare adjustments
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: Btline on September 02, 2010, 22:43:48 Sorry to add the negative EC comment. I was simply flabbergasted when I saw that ^90 fare!
FGW should be congratulated for easing the restrictions here. EC should follow suit. Their Super Off Peak fare should become valid on Anytime trains! Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: devon_metro on September 02, 2010, 23:18:10 EC should follow suit. Their Super Off Peak fare should become valid on Anytime trains! "How to go Bankrupt in one day" by Btline, available in all good bookstoors. Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: Btline on September 02, 2010, 23:32:34 Chapter One. The easiest way to go bankrupt is to catch the train from Stevenage to Durham. No need to go in the rush hour, the Super Off Peak fare will bankrupt you almost as quick, but you have a slightly higher chance of getting a seat! :o :o
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: vacman on September 02, 2010, 23:57:51 What a load of crap that the Totnes hippies are claiming this as THEIR victory! it was down to the staff! If you look in detail at the new restrictions you'll see that the restrictions are by TRAIN not time, i.e. the first SSR train is the 0648 from Pnz throughout, whether you join at Penzance or Exeter 1C78 is the first ssr train, it is a major simplification that is most welcome and is down to staff bombarding management about how complicated the restrictions are from all stations not just bloody Totnes!
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: old original on September 03, 2010, 22:19:12 What a load of crap that the Totnes hippies are claiming this as THEIR victory! it was down to the staff! If you look in detail at the new restrictions you'll see that the restrictions are by TRAIN not time, i.e. the first SSR train is the 0648 from Pnz throughout, whether you join at Penzance or Exeter 1C78 is the first ssr train, it is a major simplification that is most welcome and is down to staff bombarding management about how complicated the restrictions are from all stations not just bloody Totnes! too true.. the adjustment to the ssr times were first notified about five/six weeks ago Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: devon_metro on September 03, 2010, 22:27:50 So this renders the SVR ticket useless since the first train they were allowed on is the 0648 PNZ - PAD? (from Newton Abbot at least!)
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: vacman on September 05, 2010, 12:13:06 So this renders the SVR ticket useless since the first train they were allowed on is the 0648 PNZ - PAD? (from Newton Abbot at least!) There is one up SVR train, the 0541 Pnz-Pad, I believe that the restrictions from Pad remain the same though.Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: ChrisB on September 27, 2010, 10:12:49 STaff & The Customer Panel claim success on the 0648 actually. It's something the CP has been worjking on with the FaresDirector for some time....
Title: Re: Cheaper ticket victory for rail users group (This is South Devon 02/09/2010) Post by: Zoe on September 27, 2010, 17:54:47 the first SSR train is the 0648 from Pnz throughout, whether you join at Penzance or Exeter 1C78 is the first ssr train That's how it used to be back in the days of the Super Saver. Having it so that a Super Off Peak return was not valid from Newton Abbot but was from Exeter on the same trains just seemed to by revenue maximization.This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |