Title: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 22, 2010, 14:31:56 Where can you find rails with the following gauges in the UK?
35000 mm 2000 mm 1500 mm 1067 mm 914 mm 825 mm 185 mm with a passenger carrying HST on it (Cheating a bit here; arguably only two that I have found is in FGW territory, but I suspect there will be lots of matches I don't know about. Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: smokey on August 22, 2010, 14:51:57 I'll do some digging.
Lappa Valley Cornwall Main Line is 350mm, Newlyn Branch is 260mm, and Woodland railway is 185mm but the HST is an APT, could be this your 185mm line? Some to rule Out. Lyton & Lynmouth is 3ft 9in (approx 1143mm) Launceston Steam Railway, and Lynton & Barnstaple Railway both 1ft 11 1/2 in (approx 600mm) Didcot railway centre Broad gauge is 7ft 1/4in (2140mm) 35000mm crumbs You sure? That's about 115ft! Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Brucey on August 22, 2010, 15:02:07 914mm can be found on the Manx Electric Railway.
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 22, 2010, 15:17:40 Err ... yes, the 185mm was quoted as being a "High Speed Train" and I guess I should have looked further at pictures to see if it was a High Speed Train or just a high speed train. I'm pretty sure of the 35000 gauge - although I haven't taken a tape measure to it (nor paced it out!). And I had something much more obscure for the 914 mm. Turns out there's a surprising variety about!
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: gwr2006 on August 22, 2010, 15:28:16 185 mm with an HST is the Lappa Valley Railway - who also have an Advanced Passenger Train (APT)! 825mm is Volks Electric Railway in Brighton 914mm could be the Southend Pier Railway, The Manx Electric Railway or The Isle of Man Steam Railway 1067mm is the Camborne & Redruth Tramway, Great Orme Tramway or Snaefell Mountain Railway 2000mm is the Caingorm Mountain Railway ... I'm still working on the other two!!! Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: MrC on August 22, 2010, 17:17:16 Where can you find rails with the following gauges in the UK? Don't know where exactly but something like a large dock-side container crane (eg at Southampton or Devonport?) or perhaps in a dry dock?35000 mm Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: smokey on August 22, 2010, 17:34:04 Where can you find rails with the following gauges in the UK? Don't know where exactly but something like a large dock-side container crane (eg at Southampton or Devonport?) or perhaps in a dry dock?35000 mm I reckon a guage that big has to be a Railway shed or Works Travellator, used to remove large number of Points. Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 22, 2010, 18:22:32 914mm could also be the Southwold Railway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwold_Railway).
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: gwr2006 on August 22, 2010, 18:36:38 914mm could also be the Southwold Railway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwold_Railway). It could have been but it closed in 1929 and Graham was asking where would you find lines with that gauge now! Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 22, 2010, 18:42:19 Exactly!
Quote Although the line closed in 1929, its track was still marked and identified on a 1933 Ordnance Survey map, a navigable version of which is accessible in the external links section. Some track can still be found on the harbour branch and a surviving wagon is at the East Anglian transport museum (Carlton Colville). CfN. ;) :D ;D Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 22, 2010, 18:51:28 Lets' see what I had:
185mm - Lappa Valley Railway 825mm - Volks Electric Railway 914mm - Actually I had a different one, much further North ... and indeed I wasn't necessarily thinking open, or even with all the track in place 1067mm - Yes, Great Orme ... and I had another that no-one has come up with yet 1500mm - come on folks ... 2000mm - CaiRngorm Mountain Railway 35000mm - MrC is on the right lines Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 22, 2010, 18:55:37 1067mm - Yes, Great Orme ... and I had another that no-one has come up with yet East Cornwall Mineral Railway? :P Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 22, 2010, 19:07:47 1067mm - Yes, Great Orme ... and I had another that no-one has come up with yet East Cornwall Mineral Railway? :P There's proving to have been quite a few at 1067mm! The one I came up with is still running with a capacity of around 3600 passengers per day. Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: JayMac on August 22, 2010, 20:29:36 1500mm - East Hill Cliff Railway, Hastings
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 22, 2010, 20:53:48 1500mm - East Hill Cliff Railway, Hastings Yes - that's the one I had. Seems quite a rare gauge! Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: JayMac on August 22, 2010, 23:18:23 Indeed, took me a long time to find the answer. My two rail atlases had no reference to it. There's a wide variety of gauges on cliff railways in the UK ranging from 1067mm to 1800mm.
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Mookiemoo on August 22, 2010, 23:32:24 Does anyone know what the cliff railway in bridgenorth runs on - or does that not count?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: JayMac on August 23, 2010, 00:07:36 Well, it runs on rails. ;) 1067mm (3'6") apart.
Apparently the steepest cliff railway in the UK as well at 64% (approx 1 in 1^). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgnorth_Cliff_Railway Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 23, 2010, 03:35:04 Yes - Bridgenorth Cliff Railway was the other one I had for 1067mm ...
Just my wide 35000 mm to go ... can the biggest really be last? ... and the mysterious northern (Scottish) 914mm that you'll still find some track around if you look hard. Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 23, 2010, 05:14:05 There's various bits of the hydro scheme railway east of Fort William still in place - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochaber_Narrow_Gauge_Railway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochaber_Narrow_Gauge_Railway). That was 3' gauge (aka 914mm).
And I suspect that the pipeline fabrication line north of Wick is the same. http://www.subsea7.com/cms/files/File/Wick_Base_%28FSS%29%282%29.pdf (http://www.subsea7.com/cms/files/File/Wick_Base_%28FSS%29%282%29.pdf) Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 23, 2010, 07:11:43 I don't know about the line north of Wick either ... didn't even know it existed! Yes - I was thinking of the Lochaber line. There are many more pictures, about 2 years old, at http://alanmitchell.fotopic.net/c1239040.html and I would be pretty sure you can still see some of the rails.
Now 35000 ... Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 23, 2010, 10:37:46 The one north of Wick can be seen on Multimap at http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=nd330580&countryCode=GB#map=58.505,-3.15136|14|4&dp=os&bd=useful_information&loc=GB:58.50498:-3.15144:14|nd330580|nd330580 (http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=nd330580&countryCode=GB#map=58.505,-3.15136|14|4&dp=os&bd=useful_information&loc=GB:58.50498:-3.15144:14|nd330580|nd330580).
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 23, 2010, 11:11:15 Is 35000 for something like a huge dockside crane?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Tim on August 23, 2010, 12:11:16 .. or a boat lift on a canal?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Zoe on August 23, 2010, 12:36:15 1600mm is also in use in the UK, can anyone name where?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 23, 2010, 13:04:52 1600mm is also in use in the UK, can anyone name where? Northern Ireland.Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: JayMac on August 23, 2010, 19:57:04 Lots more gauges out there.
Take a look at this site: http://www.hows.org.uk/personal/rail/index.htm Strangest one, I thought, was the private 'cliff' railway used to get stock into Boots in Torquay. Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: eightf48544 on August 23, 2010, 21:46:51 35000 Barrow for building submarines?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 23, 2010, 21:56:24 35000 Barrow for building submarines? Not to my knowledge ... in fact from Barrow it's just about as far as you can travel and still be in England! Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: eightf48544 on August 23, 2010, 22:03:29 OK so that makes it Cornwall or Kent?
Goonhilly Downs one of the aerials? Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 23, 2010, 22:37:41 OK so that makes it Cornwall or Kent? Almost - that sort of drift .... If I caught the 8 a.m. from Barrow-in-Furness tomorrow morning, I would only get to the nearest station on the National Network to this track just before 3 p.m! An off Peak Single is over 110 pounds (and that applies to the 08:00); an anytime single is over 165 pounds. The AA tells me that it'll take me over 6 hours to drive. Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Mookiemoo on August 23, 2010, 22:46:48 Dover?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 23, 2010, 23:05:40 Dover? Nah - I would get to Dover at twenty past two. Penzance turns out to be a much longer journey ... but it's not that neck of the woods. I hadn't realised how far "down there" is down there :D Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Mookiemoo on August 23, 2010, 23:13:07 Felixstowe?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 24, 2010, 06:29:44 Felixstowe? Indeed ... http://www.portoffelixstowe.co.uk/pressreleases/frmPress.aspx?pid=314 A freight only line - no passenger service ;) Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: devon_metro on August 24, 2010, 09:07:38 Can anybody guess the 260mm guage line that has a class 37 running around it?
Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on August 24, 2010, 12:12:18 Can anybody guess the 260mm guage line that has a class 37 running around it? Does it haul the "Jungle Express" by any chance? Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 24, 2010, 12:41:25 Felixstowe? Indeed ... http://www.portoffelixstowe.co.uk/pressreleases/frmPress.aspx?pid=314 A freight only line - no passenger service ;) Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: devon_metro on August 24, 2010, 19:42:05 Can anybody guess the 260mm guage line that has a class 37 running around it? Does it haul the "Jungle Express" by any chance? Perhaps :) Title: Re: Rail Gauges Post by: grahame on October 27, 2023, 12:53:10 1500mm - East Hill Cliff Railway, Hastings Yes - that's the one I had. Seems quite a rare gauge! From ITV (https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2023-10-27/steepest-hill-railway-reopened-to-public-after-repairs-to-tracks) Quote The steepest funicular railway in the country has reopened to the public and "restored to its former glory" after refurbishment works have been completed. The East Hill Lift in Hastings Old Town, closed in October 2022 following an examination of the track, which showed repairs were required. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |