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Journey by Journey => Bristol (WECA) Commuters => Topic started by: ReWind on August 15, 2010, 18:32:42



Title: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: ReWind on August 15, 2010, 18:32:42
Just thought this would be of interest, this coming Thursday FGW are using a SWT class 159 unit instead of one of the loco sets on the CDF/TAU/PGN train.

This was told to me by a friend who is a FGW staff member.  Bristol guards have to work it on Thursday, along with Exeter guards.

Can anyone confirm this and explain why?


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: vacman on August 15, 2010, 18:50:33
Just thought this would be of interest, this coming Thursday FGW are using a SWT class 159 unit instead of one of the loco sets on the CDF/TAU/PGN train.

This was told to me by a friend who is a FGW staff member.  Bristol guards have to work it on Thursday, along with Exeter guards.

Can anyone confirm this and explain why?
they are infact using 2x159's on these duties in order to release both LHCS sets for Dawlish carnival, the LHCS sets are to be strengthened to 5 coaches aswell, a 159 will be making a trip to paignton aswell.


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2010, 20:46:44
SWT 159s at Nailsea & Backwell ??

I'll be there to take historic pictures of that!

CfN  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: devon_metro on August 15, 2010, 21:07:39
Trainspotter!


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: inspector_blakey on August 16, 2010, 04:53:22
The cynic in me thinks that this could be construed as further evidence of the farce that is the surplus of 15x stock allocated to SWT when so many other operators in the country are in desperate need of it! Something tells me FGW couldn't spare two three-car units on a weekday to help another TOC out of a tight spot  :-\

But, having said that, credit where it's due to FGW for making a real effort to provide additional capacity for the Dawlish Carnival.


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: Timmer on August 16, 2010, 06:25:44
It leads me to think the same thing too as anyone who has passed through Salisbury can often testify that there seems to be some units parked up in the station. Makes you wonder why they couldn't have continued to run some services south of Exeter that were scrapped last December.

The only thing that makes me think different is why would SWT want to hire surplus stock when they are cutting back in other areas? Though they do seem to be the third party ROSCO whenever a TOC needs a unit or two.


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: smokey on August 16, 2010, 12:26:31
Well unless they have been transfered to other depots, the Class 159 fleet is maintained at Salisbury, so it's normal to see laid up 159's at Salisbury, they might not be fit to run.

Note: The 159 fleet is Single Depot maintained, NONE of the NFF* on 159 fleet.

And the standard of the 159's knocks spots of the FGW unit fleet, with the possible exception of the Exeter Nodding Donkeys which I believe are normally ONLY maintained at Exeter.
Spot the common thread.

* NFF No Fault Found, with mult-depot maintenance so very easy to pass the fault to the next depot the unit goes to. Of course maybe they didn't find a fault!
As my dear mum says "if you don't look you don't find"


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: paul7575 on August 16, 2010, 12:34:16
The only thing that makes me think different is why would SWT want to hire surplus stock when they are cutting back in other areas? Though they do seem to be the third party ROSCO whenever a TOC needs a unit or two.

There are normally 27 159s diagrammed daily from 30 units. That is pretty much normal DMU utilisation of 90% - so where's the big surplus? If FGW have two all but one will be in use that day.  Perhaps they are covering with 450s elsewhere, or for the odd day they have tweaked the maintenance plan. It will be interesting to see what they do on the day.

I therefore doubt the units could be released for a long term period, and as for the units hanging around Salisbury depot all day, it isn't the case in the peaks. Like all the other SE commuter TOCs, a lot of stock is free mid day, buit it comes out again late afternoon.

As for the 158s running over the third rail all day that's a completely different question AFAICS...

Paul


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: inspector_blakey on August 16, 2010, 15:02:17
Well unless they have been transfered to other depots, the Class 159 fleet is maintained at Shrewsbury

So what's SWT doing contracting out the maintenance to ATW then...? ;)


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: Brucey on August 16, 2010, 15:04:57
Well unless they have been transfered to other depots, the Class 159 fleet is maintained at Shrewsbury

So what's SWT doing contracting out the maintenance to ATW then...? ;)
I think Shrewsbury should read Caersallog ;D


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: matt473 on August 16, 2010, 15:47:52
Well unless they have been transfered to other depots, the Class 159 fleet is maintained at Shrewsbury

So what's SWT doing contracting out the maintenance to ATW then...? ;)

I thought they'd have to contract it out to whoever owns the shed that looks after the 97/3s if it's Shrewsbury  ;)


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: smokey on August 17, 2010, 09:55:36
Well unless they have been transfered to other depots, the Class 159 fleet is maintained at Shrewsbury

So what's SWT doing contracting out the maintenance to ATW then...? ;)

Yeah I'm a Muppet.

Of Course I meant Salisbury! Doh!


Title: Re: 159's on Fgw service
Post by: vacman on August 18, 2010, 11:37:57
ATW now have a dedicated pool of 158's that are all allocated to Machynlleth so I wonder if their reliabilty will improve in that area?



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