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Title: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: Boppy on August 11, 2010, 10:08:26
Hi,

Yesterday I renewed my Reading-London season ticket.  It was nice that the price has come down form last year but I was a bit surprised to be told there had been no void days in the past year.

I then thought am I doing myself a disservice?  Maybe the system has changed and I need to start writing when I get heavily delayed between Reading and Paddington.  Whilst I understand some of the incidents in the past year are not FGW faults I can remember at least two incidents where I got delayed by more than an hour due to faulty trains.  As I'm not sure what/how triggers the void days should I always write to FGW to be compensated for such delays - I thought previously that for monthly and yearly season ticket holders the void days system was intended to form the compensation but I now assume I am wrong.

Looking ahead will the line closure at Christmas between Reading and Paddington be catered for in next year's renewal?

Thanks,

Boppy.


Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: ChrisB on August 11, 2010, 10:20:12
Void days are declared byu the TOC when their service is so shite that it's easier to give a day than to write cheques out to everyone - also declaring a void day removes those setrvices from the Passenger Charter statistics...useful when that day's delays would push the Charter into offering discounts....

Now their performance is robust enough that it would take many shite days to reduce their Charter figures low enough to offer a renewal discount again, it is very unlikely that viod days wiould be declared.....

They looked into moving over to the Delay/Repay scheme, but abandoned it when it was realised that some customers would actually lose out...

I thought previously that for monthly and yearly season ticket holders the void days system was intended to form the compensation but I now assume I am wrong.

Yes, you are wrong - Monthly & longer seasons are compensated via the 5% / 10% discounts given when annual rolling Charter performance figures drop below a stated minimum requirement.

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Looking ahead will the line closure at Christmas between Reading and Paddington be catered for in next year's renewal?

No - because they will be giving due notice of the disruption. TOCs are entitled to alter timetables with enough notice at any time.

Thanks,

Boppy.
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Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: Boppy on August 11, 2010, 11:06:48
Thanks for the reply ChrisB.

I think it was hearing about the Delay/Repay scheme not being implemented that made me think (incorrectly) that void days would be used instead.

Thanks for clearing it up - I'll have to be more vigilant at recording delays this year!

Boppy.


Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: paul7575 on August 11, 2010, 11:37:24

Yes, you are wrong - Monthly & longer seasons are compensated via the 5% / 10% discounts given when annual rolling Charter performance figures drop below a stated minimum requirement.


AFAICS monthly and longer seasons are still compensated for void days as well - if any are declared - by either extension of season ticket validity or refund. It's on page 23 and 25 of the customer charter booklet:

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There are two different types of compensation
available for Monthly or longer Season Ticket
holders. These are:
^ Season Ticket renewal discounts
^ Void Days: applies to a specifi c Charter
Group if a peak period has been severely
disrupted 

and...

...When
declaring a Void Day for a particular Charter
Group we will contact the affected customers
by e-mail or post and also display posters at
stations. We will explain the process to
customers and outline their options to claim
either a Season Ticket extension or refund
based on the number of Void Days.


Paul


Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: ChrisB on August 11, 2010, 11:48:06
Oh indeed - IF any void days are declared.

But as I said, these days, extremely unlikely.


Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: inspector_blakey on August 11, 2010, 17:11:49
I think it was hearing about the Delay/Repay scheme not being implemented that made me think (incorrectly) that void days would be used instead.

Delay/Repay is a DfT requirement in new franchises which have been let since some point in 2006 or 2007, and indeed many already have it e.g. East Coast and XC. However, it was not specified for the current GW franchise which was tendered and awarded shortly before the requirement was introduced. My understanding is that it won't be imposed on FGW retroactively, but it will apply once the franchise is awarded again in either 2013 or 2016, although I stand to be corrected if anyone knows better.


Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: Tim on August 11, 2010, 17:16:27
You are correct.  Although of course by 2013/2016 the Governemnt may have changed its mind on the matter.


Title: Re: Renewal of Reading-London Season Ticket - Zero Void Days
Post by: ChrisB on August 11, 2010, 20:05:44
Indeed, don't forget it was introduced by the ex-Governing Party....



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