Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: Lee on October 01, 2007, 15:00:55 Here is the latest on this (link below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7021498.stm Quote from Andrew Griffiths : "At the moment, it's rather like traffic lights, you have to wait for one lot to go before the lights change to let the other lot go," Here is a background link. http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=600.msg1796#msg1796 Title: Cheaper Stroud Valley Line Travel While Main Road Is Blocked Post by: Lee on November 19, 2007, 10:46:07 FGW is relaxing the morning peak travel restriction on Cheap Day Return tickets in the area bound by Cheltenham Spa , Gloucester , Stonehouse and Stroud in response to the long-term closure of the A46 road due to flood damage (link below.)
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?id=566 Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on December 28, 2007, 11:00:56 Network Rail sounding positive - but still no committment (link below.)
http://thisissomerset.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=147472&command=displayContent&sourceNode=242195&contentPK=19377882&folderPk=113662&pNodeId=251478 Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on January 18, 2008, 17:50:06 Following a meeting of its investment board, Network Rail has decided not to invest in the plans until more research is done (link below.)
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=19589068&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 The announcement has sparked fears that the project will be scrapped altogether. Cotswolds MP Geoffrey Clifton-Brown said the decision was a "betrayal". "Network Rail has been stringing commuters along for months believing they might see an improvement to their service through the dualling of the track," he said. "Their hopes have now been dashed." First Great Western spokesman Chris Mitchell said: "We're still investigating how to bring the project into fruition. It hasn't been shelved, we just haven't ironed out some of the stumbling blocks." Prospective Conservative parliamentary candidate for Cheltenham Mark Coote said he was disappointed. "We're crying out for rail infrastructure in this part of the country. It's dire," he said. "We could now be looking at a decade of complete inaction for a piece of the line which would make a huge difference to reliability and quality of travel." A Network Rail spokesman said the costs of the scheme were under review. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on January 19, 2008, 11:03:36 From what we know of the reasons behind Network Rail's decision to put the scheme on hold, they seem to tally with Christian Wolmar's prediction of October 2006 :
Network Rail says the scheme is currently in the first stage of the GRIP (the eight-stage Guide to Railway Investment Projects) and a feasibility study is being carried out. If the results are positive , work could start as early as 2008/09. (link below.) http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/rail/551.shtml Before we get too excited , Wolmar also raises some other points including : "There are, of course, a whole host of difficulties ahead. No costing is available so far and the work may prove to be more difficult than expected. When the track was singled, it was moved to the middle because of concerns about weak embankments, and both moving the track and shoring up the embankments will add to the costs. When Chiltern and Railtrack redoubled just nine miles of plain line track between Bicester and Aynho junctions three years ago, the bill was a staggering ^60m.Therefore, it would not take much for a relatively modest scheme like Swindon to Kemble to reach three figures quite easily." Note also a further quote from the CW article : Quote There are dozens of worthwhile schemes with strong business cases that only require the will and a bit of cash. For example, I was recently sent the proposal to reopen Kenilworth station between Coventry and Leamington Spa which would provide three times the amount of benefits compared with its ^4m cost. Network Rail^s ability to bring these schemes to fruition is an important test of whether the current structure is a viable way to run the railway. In the grand scheme of things, we are talking about redoubling a 14-mile stretch of line, which is a key diversionary route and requires no extra platforms to be built. If Network Rail cant pull this one off, then how likely is it that they could manage a more complex scheme such as (say) redoubling the Cotswold line? Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: dog box on January 24, 2008, 22:23:07 Am i missing something but its not 14 miles from Swindon to Kemble is it?
Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: smokey on January 24, 2008, 22:34:58 Am i missing something but its not 14 miles from Swindon to Kemble is it? It's not. It's only 13 miles 56chain. But thats only just over a quarter mile short of 14 miles Title: Stroud Passengers Disgruntled At Cancellation Of All Weekend Services Post by: Lee on January 26, 2008, 16:14:20 Article link below.
http://thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231754&home=yes&more_nodeId1=231776&contentPK=19677755 Title: Re: Stroud Passengers Disgruntled At Cancellation Of All Weekend Services Post by: Lee on January 28, 2008, 11:03:52 Further updated article link.
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=232356&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231772&contentPK=19683882&folderPk=108181&pNodeId=231882 Not sure how Mike Greedy feels about being called "FGW's passenger focus manager"....... Title: Re: Stroud Passengers Disgruntled At Cancellation Of All Weekend Services Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 28, 2008, 22:19:28 Not sure how Mike Greedy feels about being called "FGW's passenger focus manager"....... Oh, I don't know: perhaps he could claim their salary for the day, on the basis of him being quoted, rather than them ... ;D Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: 12hoursunday on February 16, 2008, 15:46:21 If the proposal only considers the re-laying the track and does not include upgrades to the signaling then the difference to delays will be minimal. Currently you have 1 signal at the Swindon end (in the down direction) to enter the single line and a signal at the Kemble end to exit it. About three quarters of the way through you have distant signal and a main signal protecting a crossing.
If there was no addition signalling installed a train would still have to travel 13 miles 56 chains (I'll take smokeys word for that) from Swindon before another could enter into the section. It takes about 12 or 13 minutes to travel the distance. A upgrade of all the signals between Swindon and Standish Junction is what is required also if this project gets the go ahead! A simaler upgrade of track from single to doulbe track in Cornwall, I have heard did not not include the replacement of the signalling system! Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on February 16, 2008, 16:16:41 Some good points raised there, and I am reminded of Industry Insider's post regarding a more modest Cotswold Line proposal :
I personally think that complete re-doubling of the whole line will not get approved any time soon due to the costs involved, whilst Graham is right in that earthworks are largely in place, the track in many sections has been realigned to allow higher speeds and slews from one side of the former double track to the other, so unfortunately it's not just a case of plonking another track down next to the existing one. Also, Lee has a valid point regarding Ascott-U-W, Combe and Finstock. As well as those smaller stations, the larger stations at Hanborough, Charlbury, Honeybourne and Pershore would have to have additional platforms added (though the old platforms are substantially complete still at Honeybourne and Pershore). Personally, I think that a more modest scheme should be called for as (given the current cost or re-instating railway infrastructure) that is much more likely to be funded, and would provide real, tangible improvements that are deperately required so that a punctual, slightly faster, hourly (half-hourly in peak) service can operate. I would suggest some, if not all, of the following improvements covering the Oxford-Norton Junction section should be included (although many of the problems with capacity are connected with the outdated signalling and track layouts at Worcester and Malvern too of course!) 1) Resignalling with colour-light Track Circuit Block signals throughout, replacing Norton Junction, Evesham, Moreton and Ascott signalboxes and associated token equipment. 2) Redoubling of short sections immediately beyond Wolvercote and Norton Juntions to enable trains waiting to go onto the single line to not have to block the main line whilst they wait. 3) Passing loops to be installed within the single track sections to virtually double capacity for service recovery, one in the Pershore area, one in the Chipping Camden area, and one between Finstock and Hanborough (there are two long straight sections of track which are ideal for this as the track has not been moved from the original days). 4) Line-speed increases from 75 to 90+ on most of the Moreton to Evesham section (with the exception of Aston Magna curve and possibly between Camden Tunnel and Honeybourne where track curvature would prevent this). 5) Upgrade of Switches & Crossings (S&C) at Norton Junction in the down directon to increase linespeed from 25mph to 70mph. 6) Upgrade of S&C at Evesham to allow 50mph working throughout station area. 7) Upgrade of S&C at Moreton to increase up direction working off the single line from 15mph to 40mph. 8) Upgrade of S&C at Ascott so that up trains can enter the single line section at 75mph instead of 40mph. 9) Upgrade of S&C at Wolvercote Junction from 40mph to 60mph both directions. Apologies if this is a little in-depth, but I believe that a good financial case could be made for the above schemes, and that they would help to vastly reduce delays on the Cotswold Line, give adequate capacity for an hourly off-peak service (with room for extra trains in the peak) and also speed up services so that Worcester is within the important aspirational journey time of 1hour to Oxford and 2hrs to London whilst largely maintaining the current calling patterns. What do people think? Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: John R on February 16, 2008, 16:32:16 If the proposal only considers the re-laying the track and does not include upgrades to the signaling then the difference to delays will be minimal. Currently you have 1 signal at the Swindon end (in the down direction) to enter the single line and a signal at the Kemble end to exit it. About three quarters of the way through you have distant signal and a main signal protecting a crossing. If there was no addition signalling installed a train would still have to travel 13 miles 56 chains (I'll take smokeys word for that) from Swindon before another could enter into the section. It takes about 12 or 13 minutes to travel the distance. A upgrade of all the signals between Swindon and Standish Junction is what is required also if this project gets the go ahead! A simaler upgrade of track from single to doulbe track in Cornwall, I have heard did not not include the replacement of the signalling system! But you don't have to wait for a train coming the other way, which may well have had to wait for the preceding train in the same direction as you are travelling. I would have thought halving the amount of single track would be a good compromise, particularly as the main benefits seem to be when the Severn Tunnel is closed, so full dualling appears an expensive option for a diversionary route. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on February 16, 2008, 16:36:44 I would have thought halving the amount of single track would be a good compromise, particularly as the main benefits seem to be when the Severn Tunnel is closed, so full dualling appears an expensive option for a diversionary route. I would imagine they will want to put additional (not just diversionary) freight through as well. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Btline on February 16, 2008, 20:04:22 I know that you all think I'm obsessed with the Cotswold Line, but I think that the Cotswold line is more important here. >:(
But of course, any redoubling is welcomed. :) Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: John R on February 16, 2008, 21:21:38 If it's one or the other then I think the Cotswold Line should get it, as the single line sections are clearly having a very adverse impact on services in the way that I haven't heard they do on the Kemble Line.
But of course, it shouldn't have to be "one or the other". Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on February 17, 2008, 12:40:01 But of course, it shouldn't have to be "one or the other". I agree, John. Both schemes would (if implemented in an appropriate manner) improve reliability and diversionary potential. However, it is worth pointing out some key differences between the two (as well as those already mentioned) : - There is more emphasis on potential new passenger services in the Cotswolds scheme than there is in the Stroud Valley scheme. - The Stroud Valley line is more suitable (currently at least) for extra freight trains than the Cotswolds line is (W8 guage versus W6 guage.) I also note that Network Rail have revised their tonnage growth forecasts downwards for both lines. These were classed as "High" but are now classed as "Low." Does this indicate that Network Rail were keen on implementing both schemes, but are no longer quite so enthusiastic? On the other hand, Andrew Haines did recently express optimism regarding the prospects for Cotswold line enhancements. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: smokey on February 17, 2008, 12:49:44 But of course, it shouldn't have to be "one or the other". I agree, John. Both schemes would (if implemented in an appropriate manner) improve reliability and diversionary potential. However, it is worth pointing out some key differences between the two (as well as those already mentioned) : - There is more emphasis on potential new passenger services in the Cotswolds scheme than there is in the Stroud Valley scheme. - The Stroud Valley line is more suitable (currently at least) for extra freight trains than the Cotswolds line is (W8 guage versus W6 guage.) I also note that Network Rail have revised their tonnage growth forecasts downwards for both lines. These were classed as "High" but are now classed as "Low." Does this indicate that Network Rail were keen on implementing both schemes, but are no longer quite so enthusiastic? On the other hand, Andrew Haines did recently express optimism regarding the prospects for Cotswold line enhancements. Something to bear in mind, The Board of Trade (yes the Government) considered when railways opened (in the 18xx's) that SINGLE LINES WERE UNFINSHED RAILWAYS and double track would be installed later. Branch lines worked by OEIS and carrying a train staff were the exception to this rule. For the record OEIS: One Engine In Steam Train Staff: A tablet given to driver of all trains working that line. NO TABLET=NO AUTHORITY TO ENTER SINGLE LINE. Title: Mayor Of Stroud To Organise Public Meeting With FGW Post by: Lee on March 12, 2008, 12:33:20 Gloucestershire Echo article link.
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20122113&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 Title: Bus Replacement For Stroud Valley Line Service (15/03/2008) Post by: Lee on March 15, 2008, 22:14:10 From the FGW website :
21:14 Swindon to Gloucester due 22:06 This train has been cancelled.This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable. Replacement road transport will be in operation for this service. Title: Class 153 Unit On The Stroud Valley Line? (21/03/2008) Post by: Lee on March 21, 2008, 09:17:27 From the FGW website :
10:15 Gloucester to Swindon due 11:05 This train will run short formed with 1 carriages.This is due to an earlier train fault. 11:15 Swindon to Gloucester due 12:09 This train has run short formed with 1 carriages.This is due to an earlier train fault. Title: Re: Mayor Of Stroud To Organise Public Meeting With FGW Post by: Lee on April 09, 2008, 13:23:43 Stroud's mayor John Marjoram has called the meeting at the Town Hall, The Shambles at 7.30pm on Tuesday, April 15, which will be attended by a representative of First Great Western (link below.)
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20347543&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 Stroud's MP David Drew will also be at the meeting. Title: Re: Mayor Of Stroud To Organise Public Meeting With FGW Post by: Lee on April 12, 2008, 13:27:26 Andrew Griffiths will be in the hot seat when the mayor of Stroud hosts a public meeting on Tuesday night (link below.)
http://thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231754&home=yes&more_nodeId1=231776&contentPK=20381802 Title: Re: Mayor Of Stroud To Organise Public Meeting With FGW Post by: Lee on April 17, 2008, 12:07:27 Reports on the meeting can be found in the links below.
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=258183&contentPK=20417814&folderPk=117465&pNodeId=258254 http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20454858&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20454864&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 Related link. http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231754&home=yes&more_nodeId1=231776&contentPK=20421766 Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on April 30, 2008, 15:46:07 Stroud's MP David Drew is calling on the Government to make the upgrading of the line from Kemble to Swindon a priority. He says the nine-mile stretch needs to become a double-track line to boost the frequency of trains between Gloucestershire and London (link below.)
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20504234&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 Now he is poised to ask a Parliamentary Question asking the Government to make the upgrade a priority. "I have been lobbying this for 10 years," he said. He is concerned that upgrading the North Cotswold Line to double track could be made a priority before the Kemble-Swindon stretch. He is calling on the ORR to back his campaign and has submitted a parliamentary question asking why the North Cotswold line could be due for an earlier upgrade. Quote from: David Drew "The North Cotswolds line is longer line to be redoubled and is less well used than the Kemble-Swindon stretch," A spokesman for Network Rail said it was keen to upgrade the line, and would seek additional funding. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Btline on April 30, 2008, 17:06:18 Stroud's MP David Drew is calling on the Government to make the upgrading of the line from Kemble to Swindon a priority. He says the nine-mile stretch needs to become a double-track line to boost the frequency of trains between Gloucestershire and London (link below.) http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20504234&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 Now he is poised to ask a Parliamentary Question asking the Government to make the upgrade a priority. "I have been lobbying this for 10 years," he said. He is concerned that upgrading the North Cotswold Line to double track could be made a priority before the Kemble-Swindon stretch. He is calling on the ORR to back his campaign and has submitted a parliamentary question asking why the North Cotswold line could be due for an earlier upgrade. Quote from: David Drew "The North Cotswolds line is longer line to be redoubled and is less well used than the Kemble-Swindon stretch," A spokesman for Network Rail said it was keen to upgrade the line, and would seek additional funding. The Cotswold Line should be redoubled first as it causes more problems. As for: " the Cotswold line is not used much." This is true only because of the unreliability and poor frequency of trains. Finally - does nobody see the potential for a more frequent service from Evesham to Worcester. All the emphasis on the line is for InterCity trains to London. There could be a boost if a better service was put on for Worcester/ Birmingham (via Worcester) commuters/day trippers. New stations could also be opened to form a "Worcester Metro" : Stratford, Long Marston, Honeybourne, Evesham, Fladbury, Pershore, Norton, Shrub Hill, Foregate Street, Henwick, Rushwick, Bransford, Malvern Link and Great Malvern .... springs to mind! As I said, the only viable rail commuting to Worcester, is from Malvern, Bromsgrove, Droitwich Stourbrdige and Kidderminster. I.e. NOTHING to the east! The lines are there (well, one of them is) - lets get commuters of the A44! Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on May 01, 2008, 00:55:16 Some Parliamentary Written Answers for you :
Quote from: Hansard Mr. Drew: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if she will publish the Network Rail evaluation of proposals to re-double the Kemble to Swindon line, including any cost predictions. [201573] Mr. Tom Harris: The Office of Rail Regulation is currently evaluating proposals published by Network Rail this month for enhancing both the North Cotswold and the Stroud Valley lines and expects to publish its preliminary determination in June 2008. Mr. Drew: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport which (a) hon. Members and (b) local authorities have made representations to (i) her and (ii) Network Rail on the re-doubling of (A) the Kemble to Swindon line and (B) the North Cotswold line. [201574] Mr. Tom Harris: The following hon. Members have made written representations to the Department in the last three years: Swindon^Kemble line Geoffrey Clinton-Brown MP David Drew MP Mark Harper MP Sir Malcolm Rifkind MP Laurence Robertson MP North Cotswold line David Cameron MP Geoffrey Clinton-Brown MP David Drew MP Michael Foster MP Peter Luff MP John Maples MP We have received no written representations from local authorities about either line during this period. Mr. Drew: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what criteria were used to (a) accept the North Cotswolds line and (b) reject the Stroud Valleys line for future re-doubling. [201430] Mr. Tom Harris: The Government are supportive of rail growth to meet the needs of our growing economy and we have specified and funded the high level improvements in capacity, safety and reliability required by 2014. It is for the rail industry to determine the enhancement schemes required to deliver this specification, subject to independent evaluation by the Office of Rail Regulation (ORR). The ORR is currently evaluating proposals published by Network Rail this month for enhancing both the North Cotswold and the Stroud Valley lines and expects to publish its preliminary determination in June 2008. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: eightf48544 on May 01, 2008, 15:09:59 Agree that both lines should be redoubled. However the one thing that may put the Stroud Line back in the queue is that trains for Kemble can leave Swindon station and wait round the corner for the train from Kemble. Whereas Cotswold bound trains block the main line at Wolvercote wating for trains off the single line or delay Up trains at Ascott.
My view is that good start would be to add a 4 miles of double track from Wolvercote to Hanborough (exclusive) to get Cotswold trains off the mainline and shorten the single line section, without having to rebuild any stations. Coupled with the upgrades of S&C proposed by industry insider this would be a good start. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: John R on May 01, 2008, 19:58:50 That's not proposed, because of the impact of signalling in the Oxford area. The proposal is to dual a large part of the central section, leaving the two sections on either end of the line single for the moment.
I don't think most of us would argue with that if and when it's approved. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: eightf48544 on May 02, 2008, 10:03:27 What's happened to all the signal engineers.
It shouldn't be that difficult to put in a small SSSI at Wolvercote multiplexed to the Oxford panel. When Oxford is upgraded it can interface with the new equipment. Even if you put more double track in the middle you've still got the problem of holding a down train on the mainline or an up train at Ascott waiting for the single line to clear. One of the first rules of railway work don't stop a train on the mainline waiting a path. Get it into a loop or onto the branch. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Btline on May 02, 2008, 19:22:57 Same at the other end.
Axe Norton Junction signal box, motorise the points, add an HST length loop on the branch, put in new colour signals, add everything to one of the Worcester signal boxes, continue the 90 mph speed limit to just outside Shrub Hill. Knock at least a minute off the journey, more when you factor in the reduction in delays, improved operational flexibility and the capacity. Also reduces operational costs, so would pay back (maybe 8) )! Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: stebbo on June 01, 2008, 21:30:06 I live in Hereford but have worked in Cheltenham for the last 16 months. As a result I have travelled a lot on the Cotswold line over the last 18 years (almost always delayed) and a few times on the Cheltenham/Paddington line (on time or 5 to 10 minute delay). In my experience, the Cotswold line suffers far more congestion and delays and is thus a prime candidate for redoubling and should receive primary focus. I don't now use the Cotswold line but go from Cheltenham or drive all the way to Swindon.
I totally agree that the single track from Kemble to Swindon is a nonsense - indeed what idiot thought it up? I can't see what purpose it ever served - why stop at Kemble?. Why didn't they single all the way to Stroud whilst they were at it - clearly and thankfully rational thought set in somewhere. Also, in this week's local paper for Glos and Wilts (the Standard) I saw the paper proudly present photo evidence that the Kemble/Swindon stretch WAS once double track. I despair of local newspapers - whoever thought it wasn't, as it was the original mainline to South Wales pre-Severn Tunnel days? Oh, and not all the track needs to be moved for a re-doubling - there is a good stretch of the old track still in place, albeit rotten, alongside the current single track from Swindon for a good few miles. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: 12hoursunday on June 02, 2008, 21:43:38 Oh, and not all the track needs to be moved for a re-doubling - there is a good stretch of the old track still in place, albeit rotten, alongside the current single track from Swindon for a good few miles. Whilst part of your comment above is true re the old track being in place ( I think the rotting pice at the Swindon end served the undergroud storage depot whilst it was still used by trains) I'm afraid that probally the whole lot will have to be replaced. The old bit happens to be Three foot lower than the bit used today . Over the years the ballast has been built up and will have to removed espeacilly under the bridges. Failing that bridges etc will have to be removed and replaced as trains now run through the middle of the 'hole' and would no way fit under if the track was doulbed! Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: 12hoursunday on June 02, 2008, 21:53:45 Axe Norton Junction signal box, motorise the points, add an HST length loop on the branch, put in new colour signals, add everything to one of the Worcester signal boxes, continue the 90 mph speed limit to just outside Shrub Hill. Flipping Heck Btline what do you think we are trained in the art of kamikazi train driving or something! ;D I can just see it now. The first day of the new working and the first Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill HST coming off the road as he went speeding through those points ( which gives a bit of a kick at 25) at 90mph! ;) Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Btline on June 02, 2008, 22:00:19 Axe Norton Junction signal box, motorise the points, add an HST length loop on the branch, put in new colour signals, add everything to one of the Worcester signal boxes, continue the 90 mph speed limit to just outside Shrub Hill. Flipping Heck Btline what do you think we are trained in the art of kamikazi train driving or something! ;D I can just see it now. The first day of the new working and the first Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill HST coming off the road as he went speeding through those points ( which gives a bit of a kick at 25) at 90mph! ;) ??? You what? ??? Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: signalandtelegraph on June 03, 2008, 08:00:47 What's happened to all the signal engineers. It shouldn't be that difficult to put in a small SSSI at Wolvercote multiplexed to the Oxford panel. When Oxford is upgraded it can interface with the new equipment. It isn't, but at the moment the initial cost would not justify the return given the age of the current infrastructure. NR would rather wait until resignalling is due and do it then. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: stebbo on June 05, 2008, 19:48:06 "My view is that good start would be to add a 4 miles of double track from Wolvercote to Hanborough (exclusive) to get Cotswold trains off the mainline and shorten the single line section, without having to rebuild any stations. Coupled with the upgrades of S&C proposed by industry insider this would be a good start"
My view - expressed in another blog on the Cotswold section - is that if you are going for half measures on the Cotswold line you redouble Evesham to Charlbury so extending the middle double track bit but it is a bit half-baked and not as good as doing the lot. Fortunately sense may prevail there. But doesn't really sort out the Stroud line with the odd single bit at one end. As I said earlier on this blog, can't understand what half wit thought up this piece of nonsense, but there you go. For a chain or two short of 14 miles, do the lot. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: 12hoursunday on June 05, 2008, 22:44:28 to get Cotswold trains off the mainline There is already the facility to do this as there is a signal protecting the single line 500 yds past Wolvercote. However it would only help if nothing was coming along in the up direction. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on June 06, 2008, 19:09:16 The Stroud Valley scheme is among those ruled out by the ORR (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/06/network_rail_told_to_make_cuts.html#more Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: stebbo on June 06, 2008, 21:59:00 "There is already the facility to do this as there is a signal protecting the single line 500 yds past Wolvercote. However it would only help if nothing was coming along in the up direction."
Correction - I don't think I said that as the point you make is obvious. My point was that, if you're not going to do the whole Cotswold line, do the middle bit - but that has no relevance to the Stroud line. Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: 12hoursunday on June 07, 2008, 22:43:53 What you said was!
"My view is that good start would be to add a 4 miles of double track from Wolvercote to Hanborough (exclusive) to get Cotswold trains off the mainline and shorten the single line section, without having to rebuild any stations. What I said was There is already the facility to do this as there is a signal protecting the single line 500 yds past Wolvercote. However it would only help if nothing was coming along in the up direction. ;) Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Btline on June 08, 2008, 11:02:57 But if trains are coming towards Oxford, you can't get the Northbound train off the mainline. Ditto at Norton.
Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on June 09, 2008, 21:21:46 The Stroud Valley scheme is among those ruled out by the ORR (link below.) http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/06/network_rail_told_to_make_cuts.html#more Cotswolds MP Geoffrey Clifton-Brown is urging people to write to the ORR to push for work to start on the Cotswold Line as soon as possible and to reverse the decision on the Swindon to Kemble line (link below.) http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231774&contentPK=20823012&folderPk=108867&pNodeId=231888 Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on July 01, 2008, 13:02:57 Transport minister Tom Harris is backing the Stroud Valley re-doubling plans (link below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7482746.stm Quote from: Tom Harris "I will commit my own officials to working with the industry to make the case very strongly to the ORR that the re-doubling of this lane (article probably meant to say "line") should in fact go ahead." Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 13:05:17 Lee, are you sure he isn't referring to a road that runs next to the railway? He clearly says lane! :)
Damn you, you edited... :P Title: Re: Stroud Valley Line Double - Track Proposal Update Post by: Lee on July 01, 2008, 13:17:49 Lee, are you sure he isn't referring to a road that runs next to the railway? He clearly says lane! :) Damn you, you edited... :P Less than 20 seconds in it, though ;D Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: Lee on October 15, 2008, 22:09:58 From the FGW website :
23:33 Swindon to Gloucester due 00:23 This train has been revised.It will no longer call at: Kemble, Stroud and Stonehouse.This is due to emergency engineering works. Replacement road transport is in operation. Title: Re: Last Stroud Valley Line Train Affected By Engineering Work (15/10/2008) Post by: Ollie on October 15, 2008, 22:12:22 Again..
makes you wonder what is classified as emergency when it was displayed hours ago and same excuse last night. Title: Re: Last Stroud Valley Line Train Affected By Engineering Work (15/10/2008) Post by: G.Uard on October 16, 2008, 05:54:52 Possession being used primarily for emergency earth and structural work. NR appear to be taking advantage of the possession to perform clearing of lineside vegetation, presumably to avoid further problems in leaf fall season and also rail defect works.
Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: willc on September 20, 2009, 22:51:44 The Swindon-Standish Junction line will be shut between October 26-30 for work on Sapperton Tunnel, embankments at Kemble and vegetation clearance. A couple of peak train to and from London will be run via Bristol Parkway.
More at http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4293 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4293) Title: Re: Stroud route half-term closure Post by: John R on September 21, 2009, 19:52:04 1 hr 40 mins bus replacement Swindon to Gloucester doesn't look particularly attractive! (Only 1 hr 30 in the up direction.)
Title: Re: Stroud route half-term closure Post by: inspector_blakey on September 21, 2009, 23:59:18 Any idea if the routeing restriction "Stroud" on the cheaper fares will be relaxed to allow travel via Bristol Parkway? I don't know for sure but I'm guessing this would be quicker than the bus.
Title: Re: Stroud route half-term closure Post by: willc on September 22, 2009, 00:10:54 On the basis that they allowed Worcester passengers to travel via Parkway during the summer closure on the Cotswold Line, I would be amazed if they didn't allow travel that way for Gloucester and Cheltenham passengers on via Stroud tickets.
Title: Re: Stroud route half-term closure Post by: willc on October 16, 2009, 00:04:38 The timetable for train and bus services on the Stroud route during the half-term closure, including a couple of peak trains to and from London which are running via Bristol Parkway, is now available at http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4293 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4293)
Title: Re: Stroud route half-term closure Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 25, 2009, 20:44:00 More detail on the closure of Sapperton tunnel, on 30/31 October, from rail-news.com (http://rail-news.com/2009/10/23/strengthening-victorian-shafts-at-sapperton/):
Quote Strengthening Victorian shafts at Sapperton A ^2m improvement scheme is set to improve the four deep shafts in the century-old Sapperton rail tunnel. Once the improvement work is completed, passengers will benefit from a more reliable rail service in the Stroud and Kemble area. Work will begin next Sunday night and will be carried out round the clock into the small hours of 31 October. Old capping beams will make way for new concrete ones ^ designed to last for the next 125 years, providing a permanent solution to secure the voids and to strengthen the rail tunnel. Chris Rayner, route director, Network Rail said: ^A complex scheme like this will normally take six to eight weeks, but we will be completing it in just under a week to minimise any inconvenience caused to passengers. We will also make full use of this six days to carry out strengthening work on the embankment wall near Kemble station. We have recently held a series of meet-the-manager sessions with First Great Western and the feedback received are very positive. We would like to thank passengers for their patience and for giving us their support to carry out this work.^ Measuring 6m wide by nearly 50m deep, these shafts were among the 10 built in the 19th century to allow workers to access into the hillside to construct the Sapperton railway tunnel. However, they were not backfilled and were instead capped off with a combination of concrete and timber after the construction of the tunnel was completed. As these four shafts were built beneath the 1 3/8 mile long railway tunnel, track and rail ballast must be removed for engineers to access them safely. Road-rail cranes will be used to lift and install the pre-cast concrete beams, weighing 4 tonnes each, into the shafts. An army of 100 men will be moving nearly 1,000 tonnes of materials and eight 25m-long track into and out of an inaccessible area. Alternative train and coach services will be provided to rail passengers travelling between Swindon ^ Cheltenham Spa. Passengers are advised to check their journey time before they travel. Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: JayMac on August 27, 2010, 12:57:25 From the Stroud News and Journal (http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/8350194.Woman_suffers_neck_fractures_and_serious_leg_injuries_after_Stroud_Railway_Station_incident/):
Quote Woman suffers neck fractures and serious leg injuries after Stroud Railway Station incident A 59 year old woman suffered two neck fractures and serious leg injuries after it is believed she jumped in front of a train pulling into Stroud Railway Station on Friday (20/08/2010). Fire crews used specialist hydraulic equipment to lift the carriage of the South West Trains locomotive to free the woman after the incident which happened at 10.15am. She was treated on the platform by paramedics and taken to Frenchay Hospital in Bristol. A Great Western Air Ambulance was called but the woman was eventually transported by road ambulance. All three fire appliances from Stroud, including the specialist rescue appliance, and one appliance from Gloucester attended. A Gloucestershire Fire and Rescue Service spokesman said kit was used from all engines to deal with the incident. Around 100 passengers were evacuated from the 9.40am Cheltenham to Swindon train service and waited patiently outside Stroud Railway Station as the crew worked to free the woman from beneath the train. A British Transport Police spokesman said the incident was not being treated as suspicious - meaning no-one else was involved. The woman's injuries are not thought to be life-threatening but a spokesman for British Transport Police said they could be life-changing. The line was handed back to Network Rail at 11.20am and a normal service was resumed at noon. NB: Whilst this was indeed a South West Trains unit, it is currently on loan to First Great Western. Title: Re: Woman suffers serious injuries at Stroud Station (News and Journal 25/08/2010) Post by: JayMac on August 27, 2010, 13:01:50 Update from the Stroud News and Journal (http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/8355468.UPDATE__Woman_s_leg_amputated_below_knee_after_Stroud_Railway_Station_incident/?ref=mr) (26/08/2010):
Quote UPDATE: Woman's leg amputated below knee after Stroud Railway Station incident A 59 year old woman, who is thought to have jumped in front of a train at Stroud Railway Station, has had part of her left leg amputated. A British Transport Police spokesman told the SNJ: "I can confirm that the woman has had the lower part of her left leg amputated below the knee. "She is still at Frenchay Hospital and her condition remains serious but stable." continues..... Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 11, 2012, 22:41:52 From FGW JourneyCheck:
Quote Line problem: at Stroud Following a person hit by a train at Stroud all lines have now reopened. Train services running through this station may be cancelled, delayed or diverted at short notice. Disruption is expected until 00:15 12/01. Train Cancellation 21:54 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 23:05 This train will be cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Other Train Service Updates 20:48 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon due 21:51 This train has been delayed and is expected to be 62 minutes late from Gloucester. This is due to a person hit by a train. 22:01 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon due 23:05 This train will be started from Gloucester at 22:14. This train will no longer call at Cheltenham Spa. This is due to a person hit by a train. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Stroud - 11 January 2012 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 12, 2012, 16:43:53 From the Stroud News and Journal (http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/9467405.Woman_dies_after_being_hit_by_train_in_Stroud/):
Quote Woman dies after being hit by train in Stroud A woman died when she was hit by a train in Stroud station last night. Passengers on the London-Cheltenham service felt the bump as the train hit the woman at about 8.30pm. The train was stopped and the line closed for about two hours as British Transport police investigated the scene and recovered the woman's body. Passengers were eventually taken on to Cheltenham station by coach. One of the passengers, hairdresser Mark Blake, a partner in Blushes, which has salons in Gloucester, Cheltenham and Cirencester, said "We were just coasting into Stroud station when it happened. We clearly felt the bump and the poor woman ended up under the rear carriage, where I was sitting. It was all very upsetting but I have to say the railway staff handled everything very well and kept us informed at all stages. We could see the woman's red handbag close to our carriage. Apparently it had her passport in it." He said he was delayed for no more than an hour or so and was then able to get to his car, which was parked at Stroud station, and drive home. It may have been a longer journey, though, for those who had to wait for a coach to take them to Cheltenham. Mr Blake said it was not the first time he had suffered such an experience - a similar thing happened to him when he was on the same train service at Slough a few months ago. Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 14, 2012, 18:24:52 From Stroud News and Journal (http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/9471477.Council_heads_bid_to_improve_train_station_disabled_access/):
Quote A request to improve disabled access at Stroud railway station is to be made by Gloucestershire County Council. The authority has said it will raise the issue as part of a consultation to select a new management firm for the station, which is currently maintained by First Great Western on behalf of owners Network Rail. Concerns were first raised by Stroud town councillors about a lack of facilities to assist disabled passengers between platforms. A wooden bridge on site has no lift or ramps and a passenger with limited mobility wishing to cross the tracks would be forced to exit the station to access the adjacent platform via Rowcroft. The consultation runs until the end of March, during which GCC will also flag up similar poor access facilities at Gloucester station. Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: ChrisB on January 15, 2012, 14:05:02 'Access for All' funds and joint-funding with the TOC usually works wonders.
And GCC know it. So, why all this fuss? "Consultation to select new Management" - do they really mean re-franchising? :-) Because FGW have a contract to run the station until theirs runs out, so however much "consulting" GCC do beforehand, nothing is changing. Really crap journalism. Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: ellendune on January 15, 2012, 14:10:16 Since there is an option by exiting the station could I suggest that there are other stations without any disabled access that should have priority when it comes to allocation of funding.
Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: ChrisB on January 15, 2012, 14:11:52 Which would be why Access for All funds haven't yet been allocated to Stroud....
Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: Lee on January 18, 2012, 10:05:23 There's more at http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story-14454962-detail/story.html :
Quote from: This Is Gloucestershire Better disabled access is needed at Stroud Railway Stations, says Green county councillor Sarah Lunnon. The Stroud East ward member says groups should call for better access now the Government's consultation on the new franchise for the rail provider for the South West is under way. "I have asked the county council to ask what is going to be done to improve access," she said. "Kemble, Gloucester and Stroud all have access issues." Rail passengers, local councils and other interested groups have until March 31 to say what improvements they want to see delivered by the new Great Western rail franchise, which is to be renewed in 2013. Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: paul7575 on January 18, 2012, 11:41:47 This is still barking up the wrong tree IMHO.
If and when the TOCs are given 'full repairing leases' on their stations that still might not give them the ability or authority to make major modifications, such as adding lifts and footbridges where they don't already exist. This seems to be what the Access for All process is for, as mentioned earlier... Paul Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: w1bbl3 on January 22, 2012, 15:25:45 I do agree the council / councilors are barking up the wrong tree.
It is also nice to note that local green councilor doesn't know which stations serve the golden valley line having omitted Stonehouse (also not accessible). Railtrack made Cam and Dursley accessible on opening by installing a very long access ramp onto the foot bridge rather than building a lift. This wouldn't be possible at Stroud or Kemble as both stations and footbridges are grade II listed. Actually I'm not sure English hertatage would allow a typical platform lift to be installed as it would change the character of the existing listed footbridge, so improving accessiblity would likely require a new and somewhat expensive accessible footbridge and the existing being either left insitu or relocated to the hertitage railway. Title: Re: Council heads bid to improve train station disabled access at Stroud Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 22, 2012, 20:49:00 Thanks for your very useful observations, w1bbl3 - and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum! :)
Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 17, 2012, 00:15:58 From Stroud Life (http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Stroud-Special-team-capital/story-16096063-detail/story.html):
Quote The Stroud Special tourist train scheme to bring visitors to the town is to be relaunched on Monday. Representatives from the town's chamber of trade, community groups and tourist attractions will be gathering at London's Paddington Station to give it a new kick start. The project has the backing of train operator First Great Western, which will be offering incentives for daytrippers travelling by train to Stroud. "Independent traders in Stroud will be offering special deals to people travelling with the Stroud Special ticket," said Carole Garfield, chairman of Stroud and District Chamber of Trade. "We will encourage people to get involved in our festivals and visitor attractions." The team going to London will include representatives from the Five Valleys Festival, the Museum in the Park and Painswick's Rococo Gardens. Wearing Stroud Special sweatshirts, courtesy of Bateman's sport shop, the delegation hopes to make its mark on Paddington's main concourse. Title: Re: Stroud Special tourist train team is off to capital Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 29, 2012, 22:34:49 From the Gloucestershire Citizen (http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Laying-platform-make-town-special/story-16217106-detail/story.html):
Quote Laying platform to make town special A group of business people from around Stroud took over the main concourse at London's Paddington Station last week to promote the town and its attractions. First Great Western has launched the Stroud Special train ticket to encourage visitors to sample all that is on offer, from the area's artisan shops to attractions such as the Rococo Gardens in Painswick. (http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/images/localpeople/ugc-images/275784/Article/images/16217106/3822795.png) BEAR NECESSITIES: Carole Garfield with some of the traders promoting Stroud at Paddington The Stroud Special initiative is a collaborative effort between Stroud Chamber of Commerce & Trade, local traders, festivals, Stroud District Council and First Great Western. Representatives from attractions as diverse as the Farmers Market and Art Couture, Painswick went to Paddington wearing Stroud is Special T-shirts. "Stroud and the surrounding valleys are vibrant, interesting and full of exciting things just waiting to be discovered," said Carole Garfield, chairperson of Stroud Chamber of Commerce and Trade. The town has captured the heart and imagination of many people, and it was once described by the London Standard as 'Notting Hill with wellies'. "First Great Western is impressed with the community spirit behind Stroud Special and has given us this wonderful opportunity to promote our area to people passing through Paddington station." Mark Hopwood, managing director of First Great Western, said: "As part of our commitment to support local communities, First Great Western is delighted to be working with the Stroud Chamber of Commerce to extend the Stroud Special ticket. It is a great initiative which I hope will boost visitor numbers to Stroud and encourage more people to travel by rail." When people purchase a Stroud Special train ticket they will find special offers in every independent local Stroud shop. Community transport links have also been enhanced so that people can pre-book lifts outside the town centre. Title: Re: Stroud Special tourist train team is off to capital Post by: eightf48544 on May 30, 2012, 10:05:55 So how much is the Stroud Special ticket, where is it valid from on what trains etc.
Might use it go on a day trip if it's cheap enough and without too many restrictions. Like not valid from London/Reading until after 09:30, or restrictions on trains back form Stroud. Basically a cheap anytime return, any route, but valid only on the day. Title: Re: Stroud Special tourist train team is off to capital Post by: eightf48544 on May 31, 2012, 13:46:23 Found somewhere it's ^32 and restricted trains one out one back.
Found I can do return for ^16 (without railcard) admittedley with Advanced tickets but an earlier train out and a possible choice of trains back. Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 31, 2012, 16:43:20 From the Stroud News & Journal (http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/9737982.Stroud_train_station_gets___150_000_upgrade/):
Quote TOILET facilities at Stroud railway station have been improved thanks to a ^150,000 investment by First Great Western. The operator carried out the upgrades as part of a UK-wide programme of station investments. Stroud MP Neil Carmichael, who opened the facilities, said: "I use this station regularly and am delighted that First Great Western has invested such a large amount of money." Title: Re: Stroud train station gets ^150,000 upgrade Post by: JayMac on May 31, 2012, 20:28:38 I've heard the phrase used of shallow celebrities, "Some people will even turn up for the opening of an envelope."
Is the equivalent for an MP, "Turning up for the opening of a toilet"? :-\ ;) ;D Title: Re: Stroud train station gets ^150,000 upgrade Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 31, 2012, 20:32:38 "You may very well think that: I couldn't possibly comment." ;)
Title: Re: Stroud train station gets ^150,000 upgrade Post by: chuffed on June 06, 2012, 19:19:32 I cannot help wondering what he actually DID to declare the facilities open..... ???
Title: Re: Stroud train station gets ^150,000 upgrade Post by: 81F on June 07, 2012, 17:38:31 Quote TOILET facilities at Stroud railway station have been improved thanks to a ^150,000 investment by First Great Western. That seems an awful lot of money -- are the fixtures gold plated? And are the toilets open 24/7, or locked when there are no staff in attendance, as seems to happen a lot in the West Country... Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: grahame on December 10, 2019, 19:32:00 This week, Stroud to Swindon at ...
13:52, 15:14, 15:52, 17:04 and 18:12 Next week, at ... 14:29, 15:29, 16:28, 17:29, and 18:07 Much more even - yes, Better - for some, but concern that Swindon students who commute to Stroud College by train loose their 15:52 and now have to wait until 16:28. No details of the numbers involve, but there's always an impressive number of young people getting on the Stroud Valley train at Swindon at around 07:45 (that's the service at 07:04 from Westbury - and I suspect they are the ones involved. Title: Re: Stroud Valley timetable changes ... December 2019 Post by: Robin Summerhill on December 10, 2019, 19:57:30 BBC local news did an item on this a few weeks ago. The cause of the student traffic flow is the fact there is a grammar school in Stroud and there aren't any in Wiltshire.
And yes they "had the moans" about the timetable change, but the nature of the traffic suggests they'll complain but at the end of the day put up with it. Title: Re: Stroud Valley timetable changes ... December 2019 Post by: patch38 on December 13, 2019, 15:29:26 Chat over on RailForums suggests that only the following Golden Valley services will be 9-car or 2x5-car from Monday:
PAD - CNM 16.30, 17.28 and 18.30 CNM - PAD 05.53, 06.48 and 07.58 I'd imagine some of the other near-peak services are going to be quite cosy if they become 5-car sets. Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: grahame on October 23, 2020, 08:24:23 Quote 07:05 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:04 07:05 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 09:04 will be diverted between Chippenham and Gloucester. It will no longer call at Swindon, Kemble, Stroud and Stonehouse. It will be delayed at Gloucester. This is due to a burst water main flooding the railway. That will make for a very interesting morning with buses on the Stroud Valley - this train is perhaps the busiest departure of all (across the 24 hours) from Swindon at present, (over)loaded with pupils to schools in Stroud. The previous and following London to Cheltenham Spa services are also diverted - with extra calls at Bristol Parkway. Title: Stroud - station, facilities, improvements, events and incidents - merged posts Post by: grahame on June 12, 2023, 06:52:04 The Friends of Chippenham Station (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100066345772942) are promoting day trips this summer and have produced a series of leaflets including some destinations which are a little different to the usual "Honey Pots". Copies on our document mirror as follows (and I have whitelisted them so guests can read them too)
http://gwr.passenger.chat/PosterBristolHarbour3a.pdf http://gwr.passenger.chat/PosterCardiff1c.pdf http://gwr.passenger.chat/PosterRomsey3.pdf http://gwr.passenger.chat/PosterSalisbury4.pdf http://gwr.passenger.chat/PosterStroud4a.pdf http://gwr.passenger.chat/PosterWeymouth5.pdf Stroud is a lovely little Cotswold town - personally, I found it fascinating to visit and take a look at the Stroudwater Navigation / Thames and Severn Canal a while back, and I commend this day out to you. My thanks to David from Chippenham (the editor and artist behind them) and Gail from FoCS for these leaflets and for their promotion work in Chippenham. I met with David last week and over an excellent cup of coffee or two in the Rivo lounge we shared our community and Community Rail stories and looked forward in what continue to be changing and challenging times. Delighted to be working with them on things like the Saturday Weymouth trains to ensure we each promote different Saturdays rather then ending up with a train that's well loaded from Swindon, full from Chippenham and a major problem at Melksham. Title: Stroud foot bridge to under go renovation Post by: infoman on August 21, 2024, 06:37:29 BBC points west TV local News at 06:25am on Wednesday morning reporting that the foot bridge at the station is to under go renovation work.
News item should be shown again at XX:55 and XX:25 past the hour and also at 13:30pm and 18:00pm today. Just a reminder(again) that local news is only available on catch up for TWENTY FOURS only. Title: Re: Stroud foot bridge to under go renovation Post by: Red Squirrel on August 21, 2024, 08:23:07 I can’t easily cut and paste the full article where I am at the moment, but Network Rail’s presser is here: https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/grade-ii-listed-stroud-station-footbridge-to-be-refurbished
Title: Re: Stroud foot bridge to under go renovation Post by: bobm on August 21, 2024, 09:15:10 Quote Grade II listed Stroud station footbridge to be refurbished Stroud station footbridge is set for renovation with Network Rail about to begin work in the Gloucestershire town. The programme to refurbish the Grade II listed bridge, built in 1914, begins on Tuesday 27 August and will be completed in spring next year. While the work takes place, sections of the car park on either side of the station will be out of use to allow Network Rail’s contractor, SISK Rail, to operate safely. Around 34 of the 150 spaces at the station will be suspended. Another car park, run by Stroud District Council, is available a short walk away off Cheapside. The footbridge span will be taken down and moved to the car park to be renovated. It will be grit blasted, and its timber and steelwork repaired and then repainted. The staircase treads and timbers and the station building canopies will also be refurbished. To maintain access between the two platforms, a temporary bridge will be built at the south-east end of the station. Network Rail portfolio manager John Charlton said: “Our work will carefully upgrade this historic station and ensure it remains safe for passengers. “We’re sorry for the disruption but this essential work will benefit Stroud for decades to come.” GWR station manager for the South Cotswolds area Ben Scott said: “We are pleased to see that these station improvements are about to get underway to upgrade the facilities for our customers at Stroud. “However, these renewal works will significantly reduce the number of parking spaces available in the station car park up until early 2025. “Alternative parking is available a short walk from the station in the adjacent Stroud District Council car park off Cheapside. “In addition, APCOA permit holders will also be able to use permits for Stroud at Kemble station instead in car park number three. “We apologise for any inconvenience these temporary changes may cause, but this work is essential to maintain the station footbridge.” Title: Re: Stroud foot bridge to under go renovation Post by: infoman on August 21, 2024, 19:47:32 I have not used Stroud for a fair time,is really in a bad state?
Not sure what the costs of the renovation is costing, but could a lift not have been a better option? Title: Re: Stroud foot bridge to under go renovation Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 21, 2024, 20:41:22 I, too, am not particularly familiar with Stroud station, infoman.
However, I can offer a couple of comments here, based on my local station of Nailsea & Backwell: 1. Yes, a lift would be a much better option than any refurbished footbridge; 2. The cost of that would be well over £1,000,000, apparently, so that isn't going to happen. The most we could hope for here is some sort of cobbled-together ramp access up to platform 1. That, too, isn't going to happen. CfN. ::) Title: Re: Stroud foot bridge to under go renovation Post by: johnneyw on August 21, 2024, 20:58:20 I have not used Stroud for a fair time,is really in a bad state? Not sure what the costs of the renovation is costing, but could a lift not have been a better option? I last used the bridge about a year ago...it seemed superficially okay to me. Oddly, there's something about the steps that has twice in the past caused me a minor trip while ascending....quite unlike with any other footbridge. Edit to correct sentence. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |