Title: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 10, 2010, 23:52:49 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/10585174.stm):
Quote Police in Cornish resort Newquay are putting undercover spotters on trains to catch people bringing drugs and alcohol into the town. Operation Brunel is part of new measures to combat under-age drinking and anti-social behaviour. Police at Newquay railway station confiscate alcohol from under-age passengers. Drinking has also been banned in Newquay town centre after two teenagers died after falling from cliffs in 2009. Anyone buying alcohol in Newquay must show a passport or driving licence to prove their age in a clampdown on under-age drinking in the resort. Thousands of young people have started coming to Newquay as the summer holiday gets into full swing. Sgt Ian Drummond-Smith, from Devon and Cornwall Police, said: "This is the time when the post exam exodus has started. Hopefully people are getting the message. The idea is to make it as difficult as possible to bring alcohol in." Searches are also taking place at Newquay airport. A number of 16-year-olds have also been returned to their parents after being found drunk in the resort. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: JayMac on July 11, 2010, 00:00:11 "Anyone buying alcohol in Newquay must show a passport or driving licence......"
Anyone??!! I'm going to Newquay in a couple of weeks, I don't drive and don't currently have a passport. I'm 37 and look it. Am I gonna have to get the bus to Padstein for a beer? Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: devon_metro on July 11, 2010, 00:03:48 I have to show my driving license to purchase alcohol everywhere else, did they not previously bother to check in Newquay!? :P
Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: RailCornwall on July 11, 2010, 00:10:30 This clampdown in Newquay is going to destroy it as a resort. There's absolutely no way that the Nirvana of the post war years is going to be recovered. Once again a few accidents and incidents are being used to kill off the only realistic trade the town can hope for.
Shame. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: inspector_blakey on July 11, 2010, 08:20:19 I have to show my driving license to purchase alcohol everywhere else, did they not previously bother to check in Newquay!? :P You must look like a foetus! ;) Even at the grand old age of 28 it would appear I look sufficiently haggard to avoid being asked for ID most of the time even in Pennsylvania (drinking age 21, most bouncers in bars completely unable to comprehend my driving licence since the d.o.b. is written dd-mm-yyyy rather than mm-dd-yyyy which they're used to). Apparently I'm supposed to carry my passport with me at all times, which I'm obviously going to do when I'm out on the lash since not only is it my only officially accepted ID it also contains my visa! Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: vacman on July 11, 2010, 13:07:08 This clampdown in Newquay is going to destroy it as a resort. There's absolutely no way that the Nirvana of the post war years is going to be recovered. Once again a few accidents and incidents are being used to kill off the only realistic trade the town can hope for. What planet are you currently transmitting from? have you been to newquay in the last 20 years? you will see that it is the pond life that goes there for weekends that has killed the town, the same pondlife that puke up and p*ss in peoples doorways, trash the trains on the way down, leave needles lying around, broken booze bottles all over the beaches, riots in the town centre etc....,. yeah, wonderful place that will be destroyed if they put an end to all this!!!!!!Shame. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: JayMac on July 11, 2010, 13:26:33 Not sure about the needles, vacman. The summer influx of young'uns to Newquay and other Cornish resorts tend to be fairly well heeled studenty types, your Tarquins and Lucindas, wannabe surfers and their hangers-on. Lots of drink and the odd toot of charlie but very few skank fiends.
I'd hazard a guess that discarded needles are more likely to come from feckless locals who are stuck in Cornwall with no prospects, or from itinerant crusties pitching up in the county for the summer months. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: RailCornwall on July 11, 2010, 13:39:21 I'm just being pragmatic and realistic. Newquay is lost, it's only market now is the current one. If it's forced out it'll die. There are alternatives in Cornwall and the SW for the more mature clients.
The reaction of CC and the authorities is nothing short of the class detention, and wholly inappropriate. It's unfortunate that there have been cliff fall deaths, but to use them as the excuse for this clampdown is crassly stupid and only goes further to cause resentment and hatred of the authorities. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: Brucey on July 11, 2010, 16:28:47 One of the people who died from falling off the cliff was 18. ID checks wouldn't have stopped him buying, consuming alcohol or getting drunk. The police wouldn't be able to "return him to his parents" and they wouldn't be able to confiscate his alcohol unless he was drinking in a public place or causing a criminal offence (e.g. public order). Seems a pointless exercise as most under 18s can probably get alcohol from somewhere anyway.
fairly well heeled studenty types, your Tarquins and Lucindas You've obviously spent too long living in Bristol ;D, we ain't all like this!Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: JayMac on July 11, 2010, 18:06:12 I agree Brucey, I was using broad stereotypes to make a point.
I've been here in Bristol a while; it's a great city and if I hadn't pitched up here in 2005 my life would've turned out very different (and probably not for the better). I've got a lot to be thankful for from Bristol and its people. However, last year I returned to education and did some A Levels at City of Bristol College and there were at least five 'Vicky Pollards' in my English Language classes. I had more in common with the 76 year old guy in our tutor group, which kinda worried me. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: Mookiemoo on July 11, 2010, 18:36:17 I get ID'd all the time!!!!!!! And I mean all the time!
Its the I once left ^400 of groceries being bought for a party because they wanted to ID me for the alcohol. Told them nicely where they could shove their groceries Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: vacman on July 14, 2010, 14:51:11 I'm just being pragmatic and realistic. Newquay is lost, it's only market now is the current one. If it's forced out it'll die. There are alternatives in Cornwall and the SW for the more mature clients. Why don't you go and work the Newquays on a friday afternoon then and once you've been told to f*ck off, threatened and god knows what else by these people who you seem to think are somehow benefiting the community then we'll ask you again! The people of Newquay are very pleased with what is going on to try and rescue the town! Already there are signs that this operation is working and it will take time before the town can change it's image but it's worth the wait!The reaction of CC and the authorities is nothing short of the class detention, and wholly inappropriate. It's unfortunate that there have been cliff fall deaths, but to use them as the excuse for this clampdown is crassly stupid and only goes further to cause resentment and hatred of the authorities. Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: Exeter on July 14, 2010, 15:21:56 Quite agree!! Some years back I inadvertently boarded a saturday evening up Newquay service at Exeter for the journey back to London and all I am going to say is "never again"!! I have never seen a train so full full of assorted dross, pondlife and scumbags in all my life! Even 1st class was not immune to the clientele thanks no doubt to the misguided policy of offering cheap 1st class advance purchase tickets. The train was delayed at Exeter "receiving police attention" and another extended stop was made at Reading for the same reason! Talking to the TM on board she stated the situation was typical along with some other comments which I cant repeat here - needless to say, on my frequent trips to Exeter I now avoid trains like the plague which involve Newquay. What made the situation worse is that the train stopped at most stations coming up to London, god knows what people boarding at Castle Cary, Westbury etc thought of the environment they were thrust into. Quite frankly, the sooner this issue is sorted out once and for all the better for all concerned!
Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: JayMac on July 14, 2010, 15:25:28 Vacman, am I likely to face problems if I'm sat on your train to Newquay quietly nursing a beer after changing at Par? I promise not to tell you to eff off. ;)
What sort of ID will I need to enter Fortress Newquay next month? ;) ;D Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: JayMac on July 31, 2010, 18:15:36 An Op-Ed piece from The Daily Telegraph. Rather large so I haven't quoted it in full.
Out on the town with Newquay's teenage party crowd (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/7907018/Out-on-the-town-with-Newquays-teenage-party-crowd.html) Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: devon_metro on July 31, 2010, 19:26:49 Sounds like Torquay at 3am on a Sunday morning ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: old original on July 31, 2010, 21:18:12 aaaaah Newquay.....Blackpool of the south
Title: Re: Alcohol and drugs 'spotter' police on Newquay trains Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 07, 2010, 12:35:47 From the Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7931188/Police-search-teenagers-converging-on-Newquay-to-stamp-out-anti-social-behaviour.html):
Quote Police search teenagers converging on Newquay to 'stamp out anti-social behaviour' Thousands of school leavers converging on Newquay were subjected on Friday to random searches by police and sniffer dogs as part of efforts to stamp out rising anti-social behaviour. Plainclothes police patrolled trains from London and key flights into Newquay airport while sniffer dogs were deployed at the local railway station as officers sought to intercept drugs and alcohol carried by under age drinkers. Dozens of teenagers were searched by police as part of a bid to create a ^ring of steel^ around the Cornish surf resort. The clampdown is part of Devon and Cornwall police^s Operation Brunel that is aimed at eradicating anti-social problems currently blighting the beach town. The move is also designed to prevent a repeat of last year^s mayhem, during which two teenagers fell to their deaths from cliffs at the resort. While figures were not available for Friday's part of the operation, over the past week police have randomly searched dozens of teenagers arriving at the train station with 10 people arrested for drugs offences. Throughout the town over the past few weeks, police have confiscated hundreds of cans of alcohol, sent 21 children home and cautioned dozens of others. An estimated 3,000 16-to-18-year-olds are believed to be currently staying in Newquay at present as the town becomes known as the ^party capital^ of the south. Police are concerned the invasion has become a summer ^ritual^ and have criticised parents for allowing teenagers to visit the resort unsupervised. Officers are particularly alarmed to discover that some parents were dropping under-age teenagers off with alcohol and then going home. Sgt Ian Drummond-Smith, the officer in charge of the operation, said annecdotedly that the resor was "much quieter". He said many teenagers were aware of the police operation and were not risking making trouble. "It is a lot quieter throughout Newquay now and it is fairly different from last year," he told The Daily Telegraph. "Last year there was a lot more booze on the trains and throughout the town but people now know we will be out in force so don't want to risk it and we hope the message is getting through." Police promised to take ^tough and robust^ action in the wake of the deaths last year of Paddy Higgins, 16, and Andrew Curwell, 18, who fell from cliffs after nights out in Newquay. The family of Paddy, from Wokingham, Berks, later released a photograph of him drinking spirits a few house before his death, and called for parents and youngsters to boycott the town until it tightened its policy towards under age drinking. Operation Brunel is also run in conjunction with Cornwall Council and partner agencies. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |