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Journey by Journey => London to Reading => Topic started by: johoare on June 22, 2010, 23:42:13



Title: Trouble getting home today
Post by: johoare on June 22, 2010, 23:42:13
It doesn't appear to have been posted here yet.. but there was major problems out of Paddington about 9pm tonight.. I personally spent an hour or so going nowhere at Ealing Broadway..

Someone apparently was sitting up on a bridge over the railway line at Hayes (or somewhere/something like that) and so, we were told, the overhead cables were turned off..

Not sure quite how that delayed me so long.. Just wondered if anyone else knew why I got home so late...


Title: Severe delays to/from London Paddington
Post by: James158 on June 23, 2010, 01:02:46
There was severe delays on yesterday to services to and from London Paddington due to ''emergency services dealing with an incident'' near Hayes & Harlington Station. Does anybody know what actually happened. I heard the police were called and I thought it could be a stabbing outside the station. Different TOC's were accepting FGW tickets to help passengers get to their destination. I have included a line update from the FGW website:-

Line problem between London Paddington and Slough.

Train services have been disrupted due to emergency services dealing with an incident between London Paddington and Slough. Delays may still occur.

Emergency services have been dealing with an incident near Hayes & Harlington station. Train services are now on the move again but disruption will continue for sometime. London Underground are passing FGW customers on their services between Ealing Broadway and Paddington. South West Trains are passing FGW customers on their services via any reasonable route in order to assist them in completing their journey. Chiltern Railways are accepting FGW customers on their services between Marylebone and Banbury. CrossCountry are accepting FGW customers on their services between Banbury, Oxford and Reading.

I would be interested to know what happened at Hayes & Harlington Station on the evening of Tuesday 22nd June 2010 causing severe delays to trains passing through to and from London Paddington.






Title: Re: Severe delays to/from London Paddington
Post by: inspector_blakey on June 23, 2010, 01:04:24
Post moved to merge it in with the thread started by Jo on the same topic.


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: fatcontroller on June 23, 2010, 13:50:30
Someone decided life was not worth living last night and decided that jumping off the railway bridge at Hayes was the way forward.

As they stood on the bridge parapet thretening to jump, the Police requested that all trains stop running underneath the bridge.

It then took Police Negociators quite some time to persuade this person to come down from the bridge.

IMO, should have just got a Police Sniper and shot them down, everyones happy then!


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: James158 on June 23, 2010, 15:53:34
Absolutely terrible. It is so sad, but at least the Police managed to get them off the bridge safely.

Don't say shoot them down as everyone will be happy.


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: grahame on June 23, 2010, 16:03:03
IMO, should have just got a Police Sniper and shot them down, everyones happy then!

Hmmm ... this is a sensitive subject, so can I remind everyone to think carefully what you post.

FatController - You are saying that you would be happy if the police shot your son or daughter because he / she had walked out of home during an argument you had been having and you (s)he was temporarily rather unstable.  Is that really how you would feel?


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: Ollie on June 23, 2010, 19:23:22
IMO, should have just got a Police Sniper and shot them down, everyones happy then!
Bit harsh, better to try and help a person who is feeling that low than to say everyone would be happy if they died. Insensitive.


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: fatcontroller on June 23, 2010, 23:05:30
I made that my comment with my "Controller Hat" on. Upon reflection it is a bit harsh and insensitive but I still make no apologies for it.


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 24, 2010, 00:07:01
There was an incident on the M5 Avonmouth Bridge, on 28 August last year (that is, the Friday of the Bank Holiday weekend), which caused gridlock for hours. While it's not railway related, may I nevertheless offer details from the news report on the coroner's inquest on thisissomerset (http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/clevedon/Agony-led-man-M5-bridge-suicide/article-2316269-detail/article.html), just as an example of why some people do certain things?

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Agony led man to M5 bridge suicide

A man who brought traffic to a seven-hour standstill in North Somerset before plunging to his death from the Avonmouth Bridge was suffering from a horrendous skin condition which made him want to take his life.

Paul Cowling said nobody would help him and he could not live with the undiagnosed condition, which left his skin red raw.

He also told a police officer it left him unable to eat and the only things he could bear to put in his mouth were ice cubes.

The incident happened on Friday, August 28 last year when traffic was already heavy on the M5 for the beginning of the Bank Holiday weekend.

Thousands of motorists were caught up in the gridlock which caused tailbacks of 30 miles past Portishead and Clevedon to as far as Bridgwater. And some of those stuck on the M5 reported missing flights from Bristol Int Airport, appointments and even a wedding.

After almost seven hours with Mr Cowling's health rapidly failing, the emergency services agreed a plan to grab him when a cup of tea was passed to him. The first attempt failed but on the second attempt firefighter Derrick Hone, reaching through a hole in the fence managed to grab Mr Cowling's belt.

He said: "I managed to yank him back but he wriggled to the edge of the stanchion (that he was sitting on). He got over the edge and something just went. I thought it was the belt but I had dislocated my little finger. His T-shirt caught on the stanchion and then he went."

Mr Cowling plunged 100ft to the river below, where a lifeboat raced to his side, but he was already dead.

Earlier some motorists callously shouted "jump" as they passed Mr Cowling.

The 59-year-old, who was unemployed and lived with his brother David in Lawrence Weston, had suffered from the undiagnosed condition for several months. David Cowling said his brother used to sleep on an armchair because it was too painful for him to lie down.

He also said his brother was a gentle man who would go out of his way to help others, and that although he had suffered bouts of depression in recent years, he had never threatened to kill himself.

On the bridge Mr Cowling showed his chest to the people trying to save him.

Armed services counter terrorist officer Pier Huggett, first on the scene, said he saw angry, flaking skin which was "red raw" and the inflamed areas extended to his face and ears. He said: "He complained about his doctor, that he never gave him anything but aqueuos cream. Paul said, 'They don't do anything ^ that's what's led me to this'."

Nobody from Shirehampton Health Centre was called to the inquest.

PC Anthony Henley, was one of the first police officers on the scene, and said he was struggling to hear Mr Cowling over the noise of the wind and traffic. He contacted the control room asking for the northbound carriageway to be closed ^ a move that was criticised by motorists, who said more effort should have been made to keep at least one lane of the motorway open.

Coroner Terence Moore recorded a verdict that Mr Cowling took his own life at the inquest at Flax Bourton Coroner's Court on Tuesday.

He then praised the emergency service personnel and Mr Huggett for staying with him.

After the inquest David Cowling thanked all those who tried to save him. He said: "He was a thoughtful, helpful person and would be horrified to think he had caused a problem on the bridge."


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: JayMac on June 24, 2010, 05:08:24
I made that my comment with my "Controller Hat" on. Upon reflection it is a bit harsh and insensitive but I still make no apologies for it.

So you stand by the comment that it is OK for our Police Officers to shoot-to-kill unarmed emotionally/mentally unstable people? And you made that comment with your 'Controller' hat on - that somehow justifies it, does it?

Harsh and insensitive is the least of it. You want to live in a country where the state would allow that sort of thing?

 


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: super tm on June 24, 2010, 12:10:34
Very sad as this is I cannot see why it was not possible to keep at least a couple of lanes open.  The M5 is a very wide road and surely it would have been possible to keep some traffic moving on the opposite side from where he was standing.


Title: Re: Trouble getting home today
Post by: devon_metro on June 24, 2010, 15:02:30
Very sad as this is I cannot see why it was not possible to keep at least a couple of lanes open.  The M5 is a very wide road and surely it would have been possible to keep some traffic moving on the opposite side from where he was standing.

The police like to close the entire area when there is a jumper. That way any people passing who might chose to blow their horns in anger might inadvertently cause the person to jump.



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