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Title: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: The Grecian on May 04, 2010, 20:01:36 I'm planning to travel on the return (i.e. not outward) section of an Axminster-Bristol off-peak return this weekend. I'm planning to overnight in Exeter on Saturday but does anyone know if I can use it on the Axminster-Exeter section on Saturday and the Exeter-Bristol section on Sunday? Or once I've started the return journey am I required to complete it the same day unless it's impractical? The return would be valid for use on either day.
Having looked at the Conditions of Carriage I can't see anything that says you have to use it the same day - Conditions 11 and 16 suggest I'd be allowed to do this. However, as the cost of an Exeter-Bristol single is about ^1 less than an Axminster-Bristol return, I don't want to almost double the cost of my journey due to a misunderstanding - if I had to buy another ticket, Axmin-Exeter would be much cheaper. Any thoughts? ??? Title: Re: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: brompton rail on May 04, 2010, 20:55:38 Surely the RETURN half of an Off Peak Return has to be completed before the date on the ticket - i.e. within a month. Therefore you could get off at each station between Bristol and Axminster and spend a night at each if you wished (I don't think there are 30 stations between are there?!)
Title: Re: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: JayMac on May 04, 2010, 21:20:01 Break of journey rules for Off Peak Return tickets from National Rail Enquiries (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/offpeak_conditions.html):
Quote Where Break of Journey is available on your specific journey, if you wish to stop overnight or it is not possible to complete the journey by 0230 on the day following the last day of validity, you may continue your journey the following morning. Travel must resume before 1200, where the time restrictions that apply to the ticket should be observed and no further break of journey is allowed except to change trains. Title: Re: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: Brucey on May 04, 2010, 21:34:40 I've looked up AXM-BRI in the Fares Manual and this is the restriction relating to Break of Journey:
Quote from: NFM05 BREAK OF JOURNEY Off-Peak Singles and the outward portion of Off-Peak Returns are valid for travel on the date shown on the ticket. Where a passenger wishes to stop overnight or the journey cannot be completed within one day, break of journey for an overnight stay is allowed. Where a journey continues into the next day, travel must resume before 1200 and any relevant time restrictions apply (except where regarded as an unbroken continuation of the previous day's travel where the first connection of the day may be taken). No further break of journey is allowed except for the purpose of changing trains. Please note that break of journey is not permitted on some journeys, as detailed_in the ticket restrictions. Return portions of Off-Peak Return tickets are valid for travel until 0230 on the day following the last day of validity (i.e. one calendar month from the outward journey). If a passenger is still travelling at 0230, they may stay on the train to complete that part of the journey but no further break of journey is allowed and all travel must be completed by 1200. Note: Cross London transfers will only be accepted by London Underground on the date shown on the ticket (or last day of validity for Off-Peak Returns) and until 0429 the following day. Title: Re: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: inspector_blakey on May 04, 2010, 21:59:12 Yes, it's fine. You can break and resume your journey as many times as you wish within the validity period of the ticket, as long (a) it's a ticket type that allows break of journey, (b) you never double back and (c) you observe any time restrictions the ticket has.
Don't be put off if you happen to have the ticket cancelled by a guard applying a date to it either. Barry Doe covered a similar issue in RAIL a few issues back, where a passenger held a Lancaster - Euston return ticket and broke his journey at Preston. The guard between Lancaster and Preston had cancelled it with the date 25/02. When said passenger resumed his journey on 27 Feb, the guard who examined the ticket told him, wrongly, that it was no longer valid. Title: Re: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: brompton rail on May 05, 2010, 08:22:35 It might be a good idea to explain to a ticket checker that you intend to break your journey at Exeter (or where ever you choose) so that they know your plans. They may choose not to date stamp or punch the ticket. Same could apply when you resume your journey. By getting your explanation in first would demonstrate you are honest.
Title: Re: Overnight off-peak returns Post by: readytostart on May 08, 2010, 00:37:40 It might be a good idea to explain to a ticket checker that you intend to break your journey at Exeter (or where ever you choose) so that they know your plans. They may choose not to date stamp or punch the ticket. Same could apply when you resume your journey. By getting your explanation in first would demonstrate you are honest. Or the more suspiscious guard could think you're not wanting it stamped so you can use it again and again!This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |