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Title: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 08, 2010, 20:20:10 I'm posting this here, as it seems to be affecting services all around Bath Spa.
From FGW Live Updates: Quote Line incident Line problem at Bath Spa. Train services at Bath Spa are being disrupted due to a broken down train. Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 90 minutes can be expected. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 19:14 Service incidents 16:42 Gloucester to Weymouth due 20:08 This train is being delayed and is expected to be 60 minutes late from Westbury. This train will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads and restarted from Westbury at 18:39. It will no longer call at: Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Bath Spa, Freshford, Avoncliff, Bradford-On-Avon and Trowbridge. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 19:06 17:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour due 20:54 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Freshford and Avoncliff. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 18:41 17:30 London Paddington to Taunton due 20:21 This train has been revised.This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 18:25 18:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour due 21:52 This train has been revised. It will call additionally at: Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Freshford and Avoncliff. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 18:51 18:30 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare due 20:53 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Chippenham and Bath Spa. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 19:01 18:38 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 20:48 This train will be started from Bristol Temple Meads. It will no longer call at: Westbury, Trowbridge, Bradford-On-Avon, Avoncliff, Freshford, Bath Spa, Oldfield Park and Keynsham. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 18:22 18:42 Gloucester to Frome due 20:47 This train will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads. It will no longer call at: Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Bath Spa, Freshford, Avoncliff, Bradford-On-Avon, Trowbridge, Westbury and Frome. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 19:34 21:01 Frome to Westbury due 21:11 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated: 08/04/2010 19:35 Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: ReWind on April 08, 2010, 20:51:21 A friend of mine was travelling on a HST this evening and they witnessed a FGW HST being pulled into Bath by a freight train!
Any truth in this? Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: dog box on April 08, 2010, 23:50:46 YES...1A27 failed between Bristol and Bath Complete power failure on one p/c and the other one went sick as well
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: ChrisB on April 09, 2010, 09:44:44 A friend of mine was travelling on a HST this evening and they witnessed a FGW HST being pulled into Bath by a freight train! Any truth in this? No - more likely just a diesel loco.... Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Ollie on April 09, 2010, 12:41:32 From looking at the log it looks like a freight was used to assist getting the HST out the way,
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: ChrisB on April 09, 2010, 12:52:17 I'm sorry, but I just dopn't believe that a 'freight train', i.e. a loco & freight wagons, was used to move an HST. Possibly just a loco, but that isn't known as a 'freight train', or even a 'freight'....it's just a (diesel) loco.
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: smithy on April 09, 2010, 13:03:12 hst failed in saltford and was helped out of the way by a 66 i believe
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 09, 2010, 13:10:44 Salford, rather than Saltford. ;)
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Ollie on April 09, 2010, 13:28:42 All I can base on is that the log shows that the 14:10 from Avonmouth - Westbury was used to assist. It unfortunately doesn't say whether it was just a loco or how the service was formed.
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: JayMac on April 09, 2010, 14:49:09 1410 from Avonmouth to Westbury. Huh?
Whilst I was at BRI yesterday awaiting the 1525 to WSM I did hear an announcement that a service to Westbury and onward to Portsmouth would be leaving from Platform 1, where my inbound from Shirehampton had recently arrived. I was across the station on 10 waiting for the WSM train so couldn't see what was going on. Unsure whether a 150 had platformed on 1 behind the 143 or if the 143 was being pressed into service to Pompey - not even sure 143's ever head down that way! Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Brucey on April 09, 2010, 14:53:26 Whilst I was at BRI yesterday awaiting the 1525 to WSM I did hear an announcement that a service to Westbury and onward to Portsmouth would be leaving from Platform 1, where my inbound from Shirehampton had recently arrived. I was across the station on 10 waiting for the WSM train so couldn't see what was going on. Unsure whether a 150 had platformed on 1 behind the 143 or if the 143 was being pressed into service to Pompey - not even sure 143's ever head down that way! I wouldn't have thought Platform 1 is long enough for both a 150 and 143? The journey is bad enough on a 150, I wouldn't want to imagine going all the way to Pompey on a 143.Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: JayMac on April 09, 2010, 14:58:30 You can get two 2 car units into platform 1. Have seen it on a couple of occasions. I've even seen 220 Vomiters stabled there.
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: grahame on April 09, 2010, 15:09:25 ... if the 143 was being pressed into service to Pompey - not even sure 143's ever head down that way! 143s can go no further than Warminster 153s can go no further than Southampton Central 150s and 158s can go all the way to Portsmouth / Brighton It used to be quite common to see 143s at Westbury, but that's not happened much since the 142s came to Exeter and / or the Welsh 150s arrived. Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Brucey on April 09, 2010, 15:10:56 143s can go no further than Warminster Is there a reason for this? Can they physically not go that far in one journey or is it all to do with track clearances?153s can go no further than Southampton Central 150s and 158s can go all the way to Portsmouth / Brighton Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: JayMac on April 09, 2010, 15:41:41 I suspected as much. I'd hazard a guess that the 143 went as far as WSB. With a subsequent cancellation of a SVB line service. Anyone confirm?
The PA announcement also mentioned a Weymouth service to or from Westbury (couldn't hear clearly - not unusual at BRI!) so it would appear that some serious unit shuffling was going on! Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: grahame on April 09, 2010, 16:18:56 143s can go no further than Warminster Is there a reason for this? Can they physically not go that far in one journey or is it all to do with track clearances?153s can go no further than Southampton Central 150s and 158s can go all the way to Portsmouth / Brighton The fixed wheelbase of a 143 means that it's not allowed on the Southern Region of Network Rail - said to be because of all the third rail they've got in the area, but that's possibly just an excuse for Warminster to Salisbury The 153's drivers steps foul the tunnel clearance at Southampton (again - in theory - one has got through in the past!) and indeed with the works done there over Christmas, they may now be cleared to Portsmouth. I do have a picture from early 2007 showing 153s out of use at Eastleigh when they coul dhave had bums on their seats on the TransWilts or Bristol areas. I would presume they got there via Chandler's Ford or some other route ... Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: inspector_blakey on April 09, 2010, 16:50:22 Salford, rather than Saltford. ;) Chris, am I missing something here...? Saltford = village between Bristol and Bath that the railway line runs very close to. Salford = place in Greater Manchester! Although in all fairness, the local bus company didn't used to know the difference - for years the notice above the relevant bay in the old Bristol bus station said "X39, Bristol - Salford - Bath". No wonder it takes so long! Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 09, 2010, 16:53:44 My mistake - sorry! Got them the wrong way round. ::) :-[
Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: Ollie on April 09, 2010, 18:06:45 1410 from Avonmouth to Westbury. Huh? 14:10 Avonmouth to Westbury (Freight Service operated by DBS)Whilst I was at BRI yesterday awaiting the 1525 to WSM I did hear an announcement that a service to Westbury and onward to Portsmouth would be leaving from Platform 1, where my inbound from Shirehampton had recently arrived. I was across the station on 10 waiting for the WSM train so couldn't see what was going on. Unsure whether a 150 had platformed on 1 behind the 143 or if the 143 was being pressed into service to Pompey - not even sure 143's ever head down that way! Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: JayMac on April 09, 2010, 22:38:59 Cheers Ollie. Fixated on passenger services - I often forget that there are other users of our rail network. :-[
Me guess that DBS train goes via Henbury - never seen freight on the SVB line through Clifton Down. Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: The SprinterMeister on April 09, 2010, 23:16:47 The fixed wheelbase of a 143 means that it's not allowed on the Southern Region of Network Rail - said to be because of all the third rail they've got in the area, but that's possibly just an excuse for Warminster to Salisbury. Blanket ban on all Pacer classes on the former SR. There was a special exemption granted for the 143's to run ECS to Eastleigh over a single set route for the refresh programme to take place. Apparently the axlebox / primary spring yokes & the metal front valance / battery cases (which are resiliently mounted on the underframe) on 143's get rather too close for comfort to the third rail when running in loaded condition. 142's obviously not cleared, there is no reason (or qualified FGW crew) for them to run on the former SR.Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: The SprinterMeister on April 09, 2010, 23:23:37 The 153's drivers steps foul the tunnel clearance at Southampton (again - in theory - one has got through in the past!) and indeed with the works done there over Christmas, they may now be cleared to Portsmouth. One 153 did get through to Portsmouth in error. It had all its bogie steps and footboards removed and stowed for the journey back to Westbury as obviously it had to return on the up line. No2 end bogie steps are apparently the sticking point due to the bodyside door being nearer the end of the car at that end. The door footboards shoudn't be an issue, they did after all run to Portsmouth in the original 155 two car format. Title: Re: Train services at Bath Spa disrupted due to broken down train (8 April 2010) Post by: fullspeedahead on April 10, 2010, 12:35:30 I recall some time ago being on one of the wessex trains class 153s (I think it was a Southampton to Swindon) where the failure of the leading cab just prior to departure from Soton meant that the driver had to swap ends and the train was diverted via Eastleigh, using the tunnel in the process. I think this mave been around 2002/2003.
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