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Does anyone have the diagrams for the SWT 158 that FGW have got?

It isn't necessarily the same train every day, it runs from and back to Salisbury.

Leaves Salisbury as 2E16 0604 in multiple with a 2.150 for Gloucester, splits at Westbury

then forms 2M10 0702 Westbury to Cheltenham via Swindon.

then via Swindon-Cheltenham-Swindon-Cheltenham to Bristol (times/numbers not available to me)

returns to Salisbury as the rear portion of the 1O86 2225 ex Bristol TM, an SWT service.

Hope this of use - AIUI this diagram is supposed to be the same each weekday, but I think it has been observed elsewhere now and again.

Paul

Here's an odd one ... from today

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/boamix.jpg)

I can confirm, weekdays, that it does usually run the morning "TransWilts service (arriving Swindon 07:48), the Golden Valley; I understood that it does a diagram off usual SWT territory so that users don't think it's the waterloo service because of the paint job. Obviously it was doing summat else today.

just to add it is the front portion of 1o86 westbury to salisbury,it works a service to westbury in the evening then sits on sidings until approx 22.30 when it then comes out on to platform 1 to wait for 1o86 attachment at 23.04

It was working the 10.41 Bristol TM - Worcester service yesterday. Bit strange seeing a SWT unit running a FGW service but none of the other passengers seemed confused by it.

I have heard that it worked the 15:54 service from Swindon to Cheltenham Spa.

I know the feeling (bit in bold).  This evening there was a 2 coach Arriva Trains Wales service which ran down the Severn Beach line.  No-one (passengers) seemed to care at all that this was a completely different TOC's train.  The guard even announced on board that this was a FGW service.  Shame I didn't have my camera; an ATW train at Redland would have gone down well for my collection!

Since you mentioned the ATW unit, the other day I saw an ATW driver working the unit out of Temple Meads so could this not cause cause confusion branding wise as I do know people that catch trains according to the colour of them as they assosciate it with different routes (as the TOCs intended).

On a side note I thought FGW no longer hired in crew from ATW

We had a few cuckoos in the next beck at ScotRail, mostly old Wessex units but we did have two 158s in full SWT livery which raised a few eyebrows.
Knocked spots off the local units, the boys at Salisbury depot know their stuff.
I have a photo but can't for the life of me work out how to add it.

the swt sets are decent units compared to all the other rubbish running around,those 2 in SWT livery were they 786 and 789 that originated from central at same time wessex got 792,855,859,860? major difference being SWT did loads of mods before they entered service unlike wessex tyseley to canton then straight in to traffic.

If you're happy to e-mail it to me, I'll do the necessary!  ;)

Let's face it.  Most people don't care, and probably don't even notice. If a train turns up at the appointed time and stops at the station then they will get on without a second thought.

Over the past few years we've had Central liveried units, Transpennine Express, Silverlink, NWT pacers, and currently ATW and SWT, not to mention 2 loco hauled sets. Jo Public doesn't seem to bat an eyelid, let alone get confused.  

Until they see a handle on a mark 2 door and start prodding the side of the coach ;)

Didn't we even have Midland Mainline stock turning up at Nailsea & Backwell once or twice, John??  :o ::) ;D

We did indeed, when FGW were hiring in the coaching stock of an HST. So that does indeed count.

(Also of course XC services in either MML or XC livery, but those don't count as they weren't FGW services.)

Just for memory sake...

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In the words of my mother, if I don't learn to do it myself then I'll never know!

Try http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=3398.0 then ;)

But if you still need help, please do just ask!  :-X

dont forget 158741 the jock rail set we had at start of first greater western franchise

I remember that set. Wasn't it bought down especially for the start of the franchise because it was in First's colours?

thats the one,it was down here a few weeks if memory serves me correctly,i also remember a time when it was spare at canton and ATW decided to use it on one of their services crewe/manchester or something??
FGW were not impressed as they needed it ATW claimed they did not realise it was not one of their sets that went off depot F*** knows how they did not notice the 4ft pink F down the side of it??? anyway ATW got a bill for a few grand.

That would explain it, not hosted on a website and you're not missing much.
The set that came down was affectionetely nicknamed Morag while she was down there, name was markered in one of the cabs if I remember rightly.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but those pictures (I think the last 2 anyway) are taken near Newton Abbot aren't they? The last two must be near where the line splits to Paignton and Plymouth?

Just seen that combo leaving Warminster - Soton to Worcester ?

yes 07.06 westbury to southampton then forms southampton to worcs i think

The 158 set sometimes joins a 159 at either Westbury or Bristol T M... the common at the moment appears to be that it's picked up at WSB... it was picked up at WSB last night anyway... I was on it ;D

Looks like it yes.

during week the 158 stables wsb in evening then the 159 from btm picks it up at 23.04,1o89 i think is headcode.i think workings at weekend are slightly different.

Yes I would agree with that... But a few times I have known the 158 to join at BRI. The staff then normally use the front two coaches for the diagram :)

Indeed, Aller Jn (or as it used to be before it was moved and renamed Newton Abbot West JN)

booked workings are for attachment at wsb during week,but if fleet availabilty is poor then it could end up having a few extra hours use and joining on at BTM instead

158890 worked the 1254 Worcester Foregate Street - Weymouth, and then the 1730 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads, yesterday (27/02/10).

Photos and more information at:http://transportweymouth.blogspot.com/2010/02/158890-pays-weymouth-visit.html (http://transportweymouth.blogspot.com/2010/02/158890-pays-weymouth-visit.html)

Regards,

Luke