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Title: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Ollie on February 03, 2010, 22:56:32
From the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8497322.stm

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Three people managed to scramble from a car before it was hit by a train on the outskirts of Salisbury, Wiltshire.

The driver of the car apparently lost control and the vehicle went through a fence, rolled down an embankment and came to rest on the track.

A Network Rail spokeswoman said the 1730 Cardiff to Portsmouth train struck the car which was pushed off the track.

"The train was damaged but not derailed or disabled. No passengers on the train were injured," the spokeswoman added.

British Transport Police said its officers were called to Skew Bridge, Wilton Road, at 1940 GMT on Wednesday.

"On arrival at it was found the vehicle had been struck by the train and was severely damaged," the spokesman said.

The line was closed for two hours and some services were disrupted.

The car driver is being questioned by Wiltshire Police.

158766 if anyone is wondering :P


Title: Re: Level Crossing Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: paul7575 on February 03, 2010, 23:02:24
Er - is it possible to change subject line?

through fence...
down embankment...

Level Crossing incident? ???

Paul


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Ollie on February 03, 2010, 23:03:17
Apologies, had level crossing on the brain.


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: readytostart on February 03, 2010, 23:42:06
Eek, was route learning at Salisbury earlier on.


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 03, 2010, 23:50:45
Hmm.  Possible headline from the BBC:

Car badly damaged in train smash in Salisbury blamed on readytostart ??  ;D


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Ollie on February 04, 2010, 00:11:57
Hmm.  Possible headline from the BBC:

Car badly damaged in train smash in Salisbury blamed on readytostart ??  ;D

AXC Route Learning Disaster?


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 04, 2010, 04:31:34
At risk of asking a crashingly stupid question, why are AXC leaning the route through Salisbury?

I'll put my tin helmet on now and await the avalanche of replies pointing out how out of touch I am...  :-[


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Timmer on February 04, 2010, 06:08:12
Good news no one was injured. Bad news one of FGW already stretched local fleet is damaged. Anyone know how badly?


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: dmutony on February 04, 2010, 07:44:06
im in work today ill see if i can find it and get some pictures off it to put on here!!


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: dmutony on February 04, 2010, 15:59:43
i found the unit this morning not too much damage the autocoupler electrical box is damaged and the front valance is smashed up not too much damage considering  :)

i do have a picture but its to large to upload and dont know how to make it smaller!!!


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 04, 2010, 17:10:26
Thanks, dmutony!

If you're happy to e-mail your picture to me, I'll do a bit of 're-sizing' and post it for you.

Chris  :)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: dmutony on February 04, 2010, 17:15:03
yeah no problem chris do you have an email address you could send me?


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 04, 2010, 17:20:12
It's on my profile, under my avatar - just click the envelope icon in the middle.  ;)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: dmutony on February 04, 2010, 17:20:57
just sent the pics to you now :)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 04, 2010, 17:35:26
Thanks!  Here they are:

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9587/766002.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/766002.jpg/)

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7439/766003.jpg) (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/766003.jpg/)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 04, 2010, 18:10:44
Further details of the incident, from the BBC in an updated version of their report:

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Three people managed to scramble from a car before it was hit by a train on the outskirts of Salisbury, in Wiltshire.
The driver of the car had apparently lost control before it went through a fence, rolled down an embankment and came to rest on the track.
Network Rail said the 1730 GMT Cardiff to Portsmouth train struck the car and pushed it off the track on Wednesday.
"The train was damaged but not derailed or disabled. No passengers on the train were injured," the spokeswoman added.
British Transport Police said its officers were called to Skew Bridge, Wilton Road, at 1940 GMT.
"On arrival at it was found the vehicle had been struck by the train and was severely damaged," a spokesman said.
The line was closed for two hours and some services were disrupted.
The spokesman said it was talking to the car driver to establish what happened.
Steve Blackmore, from Great Western Ambulance Service, said the car was left in several pieces while the front of the train had only minor damage.
He said he believed the occupants of the car got out with time to spare before it was hit by the train, which was approaching Salisbury Station at low speed and stopped within 150 yds
"I think the most important aspect was the train actually remained upright and on both rails," he said.
It stopped within 150 yards of impact, he added.

(My emphasis in bold. C.)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: smithy on February 04, 2010, 18:21:51
very minor damage considering,i remember seeing a couple of class 156 that had struck vehicles,in fact it was the same set a couple of weeks apart 156419.
first hit a car suffered frontal and side damage out of service for a week for repairs,a month later hit a merc sprinter that fell off a bridge causing major damage the 52 car was out of service at works in glasgow for over a year,57 vehicle was used to form a highbrid with class 153 for the duration of repairs.


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: dmutony on February 04, 2010, 18:24:53
just shows how robust these 158's are :)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: readytostart on February 04, 2010, 19:50:47
At risk of asking a crashingly stupid question, why are AXC leaning the route through Salisbury?

I'll put my tin helmet on now and await the avalanche of replies pointing out how out of touch I am...  :-[

We sign Southampton to Basingstoke via the Laverstock curve as a diversion, as nothing goes over the curve in day to day service we get a jolly out to Salisbury which is just up the road!


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: paul7575 on February 04, 2010, 20:43:44
Just out of interest, is that basically because you can keep refreshed on the route from a cab ride with another TOC, eg SWT or FGW, without actually going round the curve, because all (or most of) the necessary signalling is observable from the main lines at either end? What I'm thinking is that you can 'learn' a junction without having to have the points set, IYSWIM.

IIRC there was a regular SWT turning move round the Laverstock curve, maybe still is?

Paul


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: paul7575 on February 04, 2010, 20:48:40
Can anyone explain precisely where the incident happened, with repect to the local roads?

I'm thinking that the Wilton Rd 'skew bridge' is just the general location?  It isn't fenced as such, it has massive concrete parapets, and to be honest isn't that much of a skew bridge anyway since it was rebuilt, despite it still having the normal highway double bend signs etc etc...

Paul


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 04, 2010, 21:21:48
The Salisbury Journal (http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/4890227.Lucky_escape_after_train_hits_car/?ref=mr) describes the incident as happening "at" Skew Bridge:

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The incident happened shortly after 7.30pm when a black Ford Ranger left the road at Skew Bridge, rolling down the embankment and onto the tracks.

...

A spokesman for Network Rail said: ^Our engineers spent the night inspecting the infrastructure and making essential repairs, and the car is now safely removed from the track with the fences repaired."

(My emphasis in bold. C.)


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: paul7575 on February 04, 2010, 22:22:27
I wonder if we'll see another straightforward RAIB bulletin in due course - that will almost definitely have a map!

The report into the accident  last year involving SWT, at the bridge on the other side of Salisbury, basically explained that Wilts CC weren't interested in improving that bridge any further, despite NR offering to pay for much of the work, as it is part of the W10 freight gauge clearance work.

Paul


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: JayMac on February 04, 2010, 22:51:07

IIRC there was a regular SWT turning move round the Laverstock curve, maybe still is?

Paul

Until 13th Dec 2009 there was a XC service that used the Laverstock curve. From Passenger Train Services over Unusual Lines (http://www.avoe05.dsl.pipex.com/2009.htm) :

Laverstock North Junction - Laverstock South Junction (158) WG
1345 SuO Glasgow Central/ 1718 SuO Newcastle - Southampton Central

(The (158) refers to the National Rail Timetable table number, not the stock used!)

No scheduled passenger services use the Laverstock curve in 2010 though. Fortunately I managed to 'bash' it in 2008, so it's coloured in in my atlas!!


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: paul7575 on February 05, 2010, 12:07:11
XC also had a few ECS moves to and from Eastleigh via Chandlers Ford that way in earlier timetable periods.  If they aren't happening that will be another reason for cab rides with FGW or SWT...

Paul


Title: Re: Incident near Salisbury (3-2-10)
Post by: readytostart on February 05, 2010, 22:06:27
We had diversions over Laverstock whe the tunnel was shut in Southampton.
We still have stock moves via Chandler's Ford with a reversal at Romsey, if you look carefully in the cess after leaving Romsey you'll see a small XC marker board that lets us turn a ten car, a single set can be turned inside the platform starting signals.
Odd seeing an XC marker board as most of out stop markers are VT ones left from the big beardys days.

Off round the biggie diversion next week Fareham / Havant / Guildford / Wokingham.



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