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Title: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 04, 2010, 18:27:03
From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8439444.stm):

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An intercity train carriage has barged through the end of a railway platform crashing into the hallway of a hotel at Helsinki Railway station.

The train carriage, which had faulty brakes, travelled through a concrete barrier at the end of platform before crashing into the Holiday Inn Hotel.


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 04, 2010, 19:24:15
And it seems to have happened on platform 13. Spooky or what, possums?


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: Phil on January 04, 2010, 19:58:55
Couple of queries from a born pedant - I thought the term "Intercity" was a British Railways trademark, in which case what was a 40 year old 125 doing in Helsinki in the first place - and how did a train carriage "barge through" without being either pulled or pushed by a locomotive?


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: JayMac on January 04, 2010, 20:07:43
The report states that 4 carriages broke free from the consist as it reversed. As it was an empty train I guess the carriages were either being shunted or an ECS movement. Don't know much about Finnish rolling stock but it is surpising that an accidentally divided train doesn't have fail-safe brakes.


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: willc on January 04, 2010, 23:01:04
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I thought the term "Intercity" was a British Railways trademark

Only in the UK - and of course while most of the rest of Europe's railways cottoned on to it as a handy term to use for major express services and use it to this day, especially Germany, it died a death here thanks to privatisation. The initial incarnation of post-privatisation Great Western being the last operator to use the Intercity brand on its trains.


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: Phil on January 05, 2010, 07:45:37
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I thought the term "Intercity" was a British Railways trademark

Only in the UK

Exactly. Thankyou for bearing out my point, Willc.

Here in the UK the term "Intercity" still carries a resonance with the majority of the travelling pubic. Certainly the BBC of all people ought to be familiar with the usage. Careless journalism, mindless of the target audience. Tsk.


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: Tim on January 05, 2010, 09:28:50
I thought the term "Intercity" was a British Railways trademark

The UK trademark for the word "intercity" in connection with passenger rail transport (Trade Mark 1277000) is currently owned by the Secreatry of State for Transport.   Presumably he inherited from BR.  Trademarks are vunerable to loss if they are not used, one wonders if Intercity is currently being used enough to justify its retention on the trademark register.   


Title: Re: Train crashes into hotel at Helsinki Railway Station
Post by: willc on January 05, 2010, 10:12:20
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I thought the term "Intercity" was a British Railways trademark

Only in the UK

Exactly. Thankyou for bearing out my point, Willc.

Here in the UK the term "Intercity" still carries a resonance with the majority of the travelling pubic. Certainly the BBC of all people ought to be familiar with the usage. Careless journalism, mindless of the target audience. Tsk.

Ha, ha. I almost died laughing. But it shows what an utter shambles privatisation was that such an obvious and widely understood brand was just allowed to disappear from use in the country that coined it.



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