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Journey by Journey => Bristol (WECA) Commuters => Topic started by: super tm on November 29, 2009, 10:12:41



Title: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: super tm on November 29, 2009, 10:12:41
Do you think it is time the Abbey Wood suffix was dropped from the Filton station name.  There is only one Filton station so I dont really see the need to keep it. 

We have had fares simplification so how about station simplification  ;D

Leicester station used to be know as Leicester London Road and Plymouth was Plymouth North Road.  Both these changed when there was only one station left. I would also add that there is a station in the London area called Abbey Wood and I have seen a couple of people travelling to Filton with tickets to Abbey Wood.

So lets have plain Filton unless there is some really good reason to keep the Abbey Wood suffix I dont know about.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: moonrakerz on November 29, 2009, 11:00:55
It was named for the MoD site which supplies the vast majority of its  traffic. It was all part of the "spin" when this site was planned, "it will even have its own railway station" !

I totally agree that the name is confusing with the "other" Abbey Wood.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Jez on November 29, 2009, 12:07:34
I agree - another thing, why is Port Talbot Parkway called that - there is only one station with Port Talbot in the name!   Ebbw Vale Parkway I can understand because that station isnt in the town itself but the Port Talbot station is.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Phil on November 29, 2009, 13:15:34
I agree - another thing, why is Port Talbot Parkway called that - there is only one station with Port Talbot in the name!   Ebbw Vale Parkway I can understand because that station isnt in the town itself but the Port Talbot station is.

Ditto Didcot


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: moonrakerz on November 29, 2009, 17:09:02
Of course we have Tiverton Parkway, which replaced Tiverton Junct, which replaced Tiverton Road.

None of them were anywhere near Tiverton.  It should be called Willand.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Btline on November 29, 2009, 17:49:57
Sometimes Parkway is added as advertising that the station has a large car park.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Super Guard on November 29, 2009, 19:02:04
I would also add that there is a station in the London area called Abbey Wood and I have seen a couple of people travelling to Filton with tickets to Abbey Wood.

I was at EXD once, someone had arrived from Edinburgh, and asked for the train to Portsmouth Arms (Barnstaple line)... when he asked how far it was from Fratton... well enough said...   :)


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: inspector_blakey on November 29, 2009, 19:13:57
Ditto Didcot

You're right, Didcot station is pretty close to the town centre; I think the Parkway suffix in this case was added to indicate that it has huge car parks and is used as a rail-head for people across a wide area who drive to the station and then take the train forward.

As far as I know, the original "Parkway" station was Bristol - was the term parkway station also invented at the time or borrowed from somewhere else?


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Jez on November 29, 2009, 20:00:01
Sometimes Parkway is added as advertising that the station has a large car park.

Hmm thats certainly not the case in Port Talbot! Both Neath and Bridgend have larger car parks.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Brucey on November 29, 2009, 21:06:10
Filton could better be called Filton Bristol, or simply just Filton.

There are a couple of other stations whose named I'd like to cut short:
Rhoose Cardiff International Airport
Southampton Airport Parkway

Even Portsmouth & Southsea could have the Southsea cut - especially as it is a fair distance from Southsea.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Jez on November 29, 2009, 21:51:57
Filton could better be called Filton Bristol, or simply just Filton.

There are a couple of other stations whose named I'd like to cut short:
Rhoose Cardiff International Airport
Southampton Airport Parkway

Even Portsmouth & Southsea could have the Southsea cut - especially as it is a fair distance from Southsea.

I think Portsmouth and Southsea isnt just called Portsmouth because there are other stations in Portsmouth e.g Portsmouth Harbour.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Tim on November 30, 2009, 09:44:53


As far as I know, the original "Parkway" station was Bristol - was the term parkway station also invented at the time or borrowed from somewhere else?

IIRC, Bristol Parkway was the first parkway station.  It was named after the, then new, M32, which at the time was called the "Bristol Parkway" following the american trend to call roads "Parkways".  "Parkway" has come to be used to designate a station, perhaps but not always out of town, with a large carpark suitable for railheading, but that was not the original reason for naming Bristol Parkway.  It was however built for car users, "a station for motorists" was how BR described it in one of the annual "Rail Report" films that British Transport Films made at the time.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: signalandtelegraph on December 02, 2009, 06:20:09
Of course we have Tiverton Parkway, which replaced Tiverton Junct, which replaced Tiverton Road.

None of them were anywhere near Tiverton.  It should be called Willand.

Samford Peverell surely ;)


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: JayMac on December 02, 2009, 06:52:27
Of course we have Tiverton Parkway, which replaced Tiverton Junct, which replaced Tiverton Road.

None of them were anywhere near Tiverton.  It should be called Willand.

Samford Peverell surely ;)

Or even Sampford Peverell  :P


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Graz on December 08, 2009, 15:44:59
Well if you go to Filton Abbey Wood you'll see lots of signs to the MOD buildings, and the station itself is a good 5 mins walk up from the main Filton road. But I agree, there's really no need for it. It makes the name too long and confusing with other places (The amount of times I've heard it called Filton ABBOTT wood...)


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Tim on December 09, 2009, 09:46:58
I think London Liverpool Street is the worst named station on the network.  I thought there was a rule that stations in one city shouldn't contain the name of another city (hence Manchester London Road became Manchester Piccadilly). 

I wonder how many people in Norfolk (a city unfairly known for its lack of mental acuity), get on a train to Lime Street when they want to go to London.


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: jakemonkfish on December 09, 2009, 11:46:42
what about Manchester Oxford Road, or Exeter St Davids, 2 cities in both of those


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Tim on December 09, 2009, 13:47:33
what about Manchester Oxford Road, or Exeter St Davids, 2 cities in both of those

True - although St Davids doesn't have a train station so confusion is unlikely. 


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: grahame on December 09, 2009, 14:23:30
what about Manchester Oxford Road, or Exeter St Davids, 2 cities in both of those

Tunbridge Wells is another ...


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: jakemonkfish on December 09, 2009, 16:26:36
What about London Road ( Brighton) & London Road (Guildford) - though city status may not have been confired on Guildford and/or Brighton


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: moonrakerz on December 09, 2009, 16:38:04
To return to the OP !

They could drop "Filton" and just call it "Shabby Wood" which is the name a lot of the MoD staff use for the site !!


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: JayMac on December 09, 2009, 21:23:36
what about Manchester Oxford Road, or Exeter St Davids, 2 cities in both of those

Tunbridge Wells is another ...

Matlock Bath


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 10, 2009, 02:36:10
Tunbridge Wells is another ...

Wells Tucker Street (GWR) and Wells Priory Road (SDJR), so you were spoilt for choice, then!  ;D


Title: Re: Filton - time to drop Abbey Wood
Post by: inspector_blakey on December 10, 2009, 03:48:17
Dragging this even further off topic, but in this locale we have Newark Penn Station and New York Penn Station within a short distance of each other. These two sound awfully similar when said quickly over a PA system, but it gets worse... Newark Airport (EWR) is one of the main airports serving New York City, and Newark Penn Station is the first stop on the train heading for NYC. Must cause endless confusion with jet-lagged tourists heading for New York whose command of English isn't great... Especially seeing as Newark looks like the kind of place where you'll probably be mugged the moment you step outside the station (in NYC you'll just be instantly pestered by hordes of panhandlers).



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