Title: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Bob_Blakey on November 23, 2009, 19:03:05 Just a thought...the good people of Workington are having to make a detour of at least 30 miles if they wish to travel from one side of the River Derwent to the other by car; has it escaped the notice of Network Rail / Cumbria County Council / Northern Rail that the railway bridge over said river in Workington is still standing, and would it be beyond their intelligence to organise the provision of a temporary rail halt on the north side of the river?
Or would such a suggestion give the Health & Safety mafia apoplexy! Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: moonrakerz on November 23, 2009, 20:54:51 It will be quicker to build new road bridges than get that idea approved !
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: eightf48544 on November 23, 2009, 23:37:37 Just a thought...the good people of Workington are having to make a detour of at least 30 miles if they wish to travel from one side of the River Derwent to the other by car; has it escaped the notice of Network Rail / Cumbria County Council / Northern Rail that the railway bridge over said river in Workington is still standing, and would it be beyond their intelligence to organise the provision of a temporary rail halt on the north side of the river? Or would such a suggestion give the Health & Safety mafia apoplexy! Just heard that Cumbria CC has asked Networkrail to put a tempory platform North of the River Derwent. Network rail has said No Way. Partly Health and Safety. Which is stupid the govenment ought to just say build a scafolding one you could have it in a day. Move in a portacabin office and you're away. It would have to manned as it's double trck so would require a footcrossing old sleepers. It's only money and would be cheaper and better for the environment than cars/buses driving 30 miles round and about. It's called emergency planning but it requires proper joined up government. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Bob_Blakey on November 24, 2009, 07:00:57 I would respectfully suggest that Network Rail should be issued with a JFDI from the appropriate authority - presumably the DfT; the population of west Cumbria have enough to deal with already without petty bureaucracy making their lives even more difficult.
There is a road-over-rail bridge about 250m north of the river which would render a railway foot crossing unnecessary, and could be used as a stop by an associated shuttle-bus service. Perhaps the local MP, Tony Cunningham, would like to earn his salary and get involved. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: brompton rail on November 24, 2009, 09:34:35 Flimby station is not very far north of Workington and all trains call there. The TV has banged on about there being no way of getting from Northside Estate into Workington without a 90 mile round trip, now reduced to a 17 mile trip (after a bridge re-opened). A local young woman in an interview on SkyNews said that she could catch the train from Flimby and the railway bridge was still open (as it has been all along, though the line between Workington and Carlisle was closed last week for less than a day owing to flooding nearer Carlisle).
Bridges are not bridges unless they carry roads it seems. The media did, confusingly, report that a railway bridge had collapsed. This one was a long since disused one! Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: brompton rail on November 24, 2009, 10:00:46 Sorry, I should have researched more!
Network Rail and the local council are working together to build a station north of Workington close to the industrial estate. 2 platforms and footbridge. Northern are adding an extra coach (presumably a 153) to trains. http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=4831&NewsAreaID=2&SearchCategoryID=5 (http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=4831&NewsAreaID=2&SearchCategoryID=5) Well done all round. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Phil Farmer on November 24, 2009, 13:25:10 Quote from Network Rail Press Release:
Network Rail starts work tonight to build a temporary railway station on the north side of the River Derwent at Workington to ease the access problems the people of the town are experiencing following the floods. In the last 24hrs the company has identified a site for a new temporary station that could help alleviate some of the problems being experienced by the residents of Workington and the surrounding villages. The new station will be built on waste-land just over ^ mile to the north of the existing station, reconnecting the two halves of the town that have been cut off following flood damage to the footbridges and road bridges in the area. Robin Gisby, director operations and customer services said: ^We have a wealth of experience and engineering expertise that we felt should be put at the disposal of the Cumbrian authorities. Our people will work round the clock to build a temporary rail station, north of the river, to help re-connect the town and ease people^s travel problems.^ Network Rail has agreed a two-year lease of land owned by Allerdale Borough Council off the A596 immediately north of St Helens Business Park, opposite the Plaza Cinema. The two-platform station, linked by a footbridge, will have lighting, a waiting room and a gravel car park, and will be built and ready for its first passengers by the weekend. It does beg the question - if it can be done that quickly - can we suggest a few more stations for reopening / rebuilding.... Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: John R on November 24, 2009, 14:11:27 I presume planning consents etc are somewhat easier and quicker than usual given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Tim on November 24, 2009, 14:29:29 NR may of course simply ignored the issue of planning permission.
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: matt473 on November 24, 2009, 14:59:18 Probaly the exceptional circumstances has taken control over such decisions away form the usual suspects, and of course there would be very few, if any objections that would need to be considered. These platforms however will not be built to last I'm guessing therefore these methods would not be used for building of any long term stations.
For the construction of a station, the times can vary greatly if it is an operational line or one that is closed, such as the recent Ebbw Vale railway re-opening. All the work could be carried out relatively quickly as the line was closed but a station built on the main line obviously can only be built outside of operating hours to cause minimal delays causing the station to take longer to be built. You then have to factor in re-sigalling potentially which itself will take further time. Ultimately depending on where a potential station could be built, I assume the time to build it will vary for each station Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Tim on November 24, 2009, 15:12:39 Well done to NR. One might have hoped that Northern could have done more than lengthen the existing trains by one unit. Are there other constraints here (platform length etc) or are we really that tight for units. Surely a couple of pacers could be comandeered from somewhere?
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: brompton rail on November 24, 2009, 15:24:03 I doubt that Northern have any spare units lying around anywhere. After all Greater Manchester PTE had to stump up to keep some of the Pacers released by the closure of the Manchester - Oldham - Rochdale line for conversion to tram.
Shortage of available stock (otherwise full and standing trains into major cities like Leeds, Manchester etc) would mean that someone else would have to stand longer, or more likely stand on the platform and await the next train on their way to/from work. Of course there may be some spare units in the Bristol / Exeter area that could be sent to West Cumbria (he says tongue in cheek!!) Anyway as it is only 1,000m from Workington North to Workington station it should not be a very serious problem. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: inspector_blakey on November 24, 2009, 16:12:38 Seeing as we had the same discussion going on in two different places, and goings-on at Workington are probably more of a "wider picture" than an "across the west" topic, I've merged these two together here. Apologies for any confusion this may cause!
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 24, 2009, 17:44:45 Thanks, inspector_blakey! ;)
An excellent item, with picture and map, from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/8375981.stm): Quote Rail station for flood-hit town A flood-hit Cumbrian town split in two by the collapse and closures of its bridges is to be "reconnected" with a temporary railway station. Residents in Workington have been left with no direct road connection since devastating flooding on Friday. The only way to cross the River Derwent has been from the town's south side station, with northbound trains next stopping in Flimby four miles away. Network Rail is to start work on a north side station on Tuesday night. The move comes as people in Cumbria brace themselves for more heavy rain - with up to 100mm (3.9in) predicted to fall on areas of high ground. Six bridges have already collapsed in Cumbria as a result of the flooding, causing major transport and logistical problems for thousands of people. Cumbria County Council is warning Workington residents that if the closed Calva Bridge collapses 11,000 homes north of the River Derwent would lose their telephone connection. Pc Bill Barker, 44, was swept to his death when the town's A597 Northside Bridge was destroyed on Friday. A fortnight's worth of passengers boarded services at the exisiting Workington station on Monday. Road journeys between the two halves of the town currently involve a more than 30-mile detour. The new station will be built on wasteland just over half a mile from the existing station. The two-platform station, linked by a footbridge, will have lighting, a waiting room and a gravel car park, and will be built and ready for its first passengers by the weekend. Robin Gisby, Network Rail operations and customer services director, said: "We have a wealth of experience and engineering expertise that we felt should be put at the disposal of the Cumbrian authorities. Our people will work round the clock on this project." A Cumbria County Council spokesman said the authority was "urgently working" on options to reconnect the north and south of Workington by using a temporary road bridge. He said it was likely that a military bridge would not be suitable for local traffic and that the county council's civil engineers were working on possible solutions. A footbridge known as the Old Railway Bridge in the port of Workington is also structurally unstable and the public must not attempt to cross the river by foot here. The Environment Agency said the downpour on Tuesday could further raise river levels and bring more flooding. However, river levels are not expected to return to those which brought devastation to areas on Friday. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: matt473 on November 24, 2009, 20:18:46 This is a crazy idea I know, but they could run an extra service with a hire in from ATW as a unit is not required at the moment because of flooding on the Blaenau Ffestiniong line as a result of flooding. I'm sure arms could be twisted for Arriva to sub-lease the unit to Northern to help out until arriva need it for the re-opened line. May befor no more than a few days but in the short term the help could be needed.
On a lighter note, the flooding on the Blaenau Fgestiniog line has required a diver to inspect the track at Llanwrst :D Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Electric train on November 24, 2009, 22:20:36 Also Network Rail have made their bridge & structures examiners and civil engineers available the local authorities to assist them.
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: inspector_blakey on November 25, 2009, 02:59:44 Interesting that this thread started off giving Network Rail and the government a kicking (mentioning no names ;)) for the inability of the modern railway to respond rapidly to this kind of situation, and yet ended up congratulating it for being able to do just that.
In fact, that's two cases of exemplary (and rapid) responses to difficult situations I can think of in the last week or so now, the second being the diversion of the line round the gurt hole in the ground near Hounslow! Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Bob_Blakey on November 25, 2009, 06:44:32 Guilty as charged, m'lud!! I can only say that I am very pleasantly surprised, and encouraged, by Network Rail's response (to both incidents).
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: eightf48544 on November 25, 2009, 08:42:40 Guilty as charged, m'lud!! I can only say that I am very pleasantly surprised, and encouraged, by Network Rail's response (to both incidents). Yep I'm guilty as charged as well , but who knows somebody my have read this board or other postings on the web and thought. "This is silly why invite a kicking when we know we can do it/" Whoever that person was "Well done". Not wishing to support the BNP but it's in the true British Spirit. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: moonrakerz on November 25, 2009, 11:58:36 Guilty as charged, m'lud!! I can only say that I am very pleasantly surprised, and encouraged, by Network Rail's response (to both incidents). Yep I'm guilty as charged as well , but who knows somebody my have read this board or other postings on the web and thought. "This is silly why invite a kicking when we know we can do it/" Whoever that person was "Well done". Not wishing to support the BNP but it's in the true British Spirit. Likewise - as Frankie Howard would have said; "My flabber has never been so gasted !" Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Electric train on November 25, 2009, 15:37:03 Guilty as charged, m'lud!! I can only say that I am very pleasantly surprised, and encouraged, by Network Rail's response (to both incidents). Yep I'm guilty as charged as well , but who knows somebody my have read this board or other postings on the web and thought. "This is silly why invite a kicking when we know we can do it/" Whoever that person was "Well done". Not wishing to support the BNP but it's in the true British Spirit. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on November 25, 2009, 16:24:02 from the bbc website, amazing how these things can be done quickly even if it is under these unfortunate times for cumbria
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/8375981.stm Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Mookiemoo on November 25, 2009, 18:51:15 Have to say - I do feel sorry for the inhabitants of Workington (but not as much as those who did not realise they did not HAVE to travel 90 miles around but could use the station a few miles away).
I remember when the 2007 flood took out Burford Bridge in ludlow......small town but as the main route into and out of the town, it caused chaos on the other routes in ...... ...... The only knock on effect is the permanent removal of a nice rat run to cut a big corner off. Was always a very narrow street but when the bridge came down, it became the ONLY way to get out that end of town. Council tried making it one way - did not work. Council tried temporary red and white barriers - the locals (not the people who lived in the street) kept moving them or driving over/around them. They ended up putting up permanent barriers that even now that the brigdge is up, remain to this day Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: IndustryInsider on November 25, 2009, 22:17:21 Some great positive publicity for NR for once!
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Bob_Blakey on November 26, 2009, 20:12:14 Preparation of the new 'Workington North' station is apparently progressing very nicely:
http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=4840&NewsAreaID=2&SearchCategoryID=2 Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: inspector_blakey on November 26, 2009, 21:24:08 Part of me wonders if this station is going to become an accidental commercial success and difficult to remove when the time comes...!
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Lee on November 28, 2009, 19:34:11 This is a crazy idea I know, but they could run an extra service with a hire in from ATW as a unit is not required at the moment because of flooding on the Blaenau Ffestiniong line as a result of flooding. I'm sure arms could be twisted for Arriva to sub-lease the unit to Northern to help out until arriva need it for the re-opened line. May befor no more than a few days but in the short term the help could be needed. On a lighter note, the flooding on the Blaenau Fgestiniog line has required a diver to inspect the track at Llanwrst :D The Conwy Valley line should re-open on Monday - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8384158.stm Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Tim on November 30, 2009, 15:41:56 Also Network Rail have made their bridge & structures examiners and civil engineers available the local authorities to assist them. ....and they have allowed BT to run temporary telephone cables over the railway bridge until BT gets the premanent replacements for those soon to be lost when the Calva bridge collapses installed (which involves BT "tunnelling" under the river). Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: IndustryInsider on November 30, 2009, 16:06:27 Two examples of the positive publicity the station is receiving. It's even got proper name plates and a CRS code (WKN)!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Cumbria-Floods-Workington-Split-In-Two-By-Collapsed-Bridges-Reunited-By-Temporary-Rail-Station/Article/200911415479383?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15479383_Cumbria_Floods%3A_Workington%2C_Split_In_Two_By_Collapsed_Bridges%2C_Reunited_By_Temporary_Rail_Station (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Cumbria-Floods-Workington-Split-In-Two-By-Collapsed-Bridges-Reunited-By-Temporary-Rail-Station/Article/200911415479383?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15479383_Cumbria_Floods%3A_Workington%2C_Split_In_Two_By_Collapsed_Bridges%2C_Reunited_By_Temporary_Rail_Station) http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/new_workington_rail_station_open_after_six_day_build_1_644195?referrerPath=home (http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/new_workington_rail_station_open_after_six_day_build_1_644195?referrerPath=home) Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: devon_metro on November 30, 2009, 16:34:10 Two examples of the positive publicity the station is receiving. It's even got proper name plates and a CRS code (WKN)! http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Cumbria-Floods-Workington-Split-In-Two-By-Collapsed-Bridges-Reunited-By-Temporary-Rail-Station/Article/200911415479383?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15479383_Cumbria_Floods%3A_Workington%2C_Split_In_Two_By_Collapsed_Bridges%2C_Reunited_By_Temporary_Rail_Station (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Cumbria-Floods-Workington-Split-In-Two-By-Collapsed-Bridges-Reunited-By-Temporary-Rail-Station/Article/200911415479383?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15479383_Cumbria_Floods%3A_Workington%2C_Split_In_Two_By_Collapsed_Bridges%2C_Reunited_By_Temporary_Rail_Station) http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/new_workington_rail_station_open_after_six_day_build_1_644195?referrerPath=home (http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/new_workington_rail_station_open_after_six_day_build_1_644195?referrerPath=home) However its not in Live Departures! Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: IndustryInsider on November 30, 2009, 16:46:55 However its not in Live Departures! No, I doubt that the Network Rail schedule software which that service feeds from have had a chance to upload the changes yet - or in fact have the capability to do so given the short notice of the changes. It's fair to point out though that there's a note on the Workington live departures page stating that all trains will call at Workington North. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: inspector_blakey on November 30, 2009, 16:59:37 Looks as if the shuttle service is operating with DRS 47s and mark 3s... if it really is then I predict an influx of bashers to the Cumbrian coast...
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 30, 2009, 17:07:39 From the BBC, a video news report shows the stock being used: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8385656.stm ... ;D
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: devon_metro on November 30, 2009, 17:23:30 Looks as if the shuttle service is operating with DRS 47s and mark 3s... if it really is then I predict an influx of bashers to the Cumbrian coast... 47 + Intercity Mk2 + 3 DRS Mk3s + 37/4 Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Tim on December 01, 2009, 09:38:26 And the shuttle between Workington and Workington North is free!
Seems a sensible way to avoid updating the ticketing and fares system (I assume that if you are travelling from outside Workington you buy a ticket to Workington and use whichever station suits you best) Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: IndustryInsider on December 01, 2009, 10:06:15 And the shuttle between Workington and Workington North is free! Seems a sensible way to avoid updating the ticketing and fares system It really has to be free. Any actual fare charged for the service would take away all the positive spin on the story and open up the railway industry to claims of profiteering out of other peoples misfortune. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: eightf48544 on December 01, 2009, 16:40:27 Looks as if the shuttle service is operating with DRS 47s and mark 3s... if it really is then I predict an influx of bashers to the Cumbrian coast... That would be good because although the shuttle is free they will hopefully come by train to Workington. Pity it's such a long way from Taplow otherwise I might have been tempted. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: inspector_blakey on December 02, 2009, 03:56:20 Perhaps predictably, the carping has started about "why can't station reopenings always be this quick?"...
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2009/11/rail-industry-gets-it-together-but-why-not-all-the-time/ (http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/2009/11/rail-industry-gets-it-together-but-why-not-all-the-time/) Whilst Workington is definitely a great effort by all involved, it is after all a lash-up made out of scaffolding and the odd portacabin; perfectly adequate for its intended temporary status but it's probably a bit of a stretch to say all new stations could be built in the same way! Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: eightf48544 on December 02, 2009, 10:29:40 Whilst Workington is definitely a great effort by all involved, it is after all a lash-up made out of scaffolding and the odd portacabin; perfectly adequate for its intended temporary status but it's probably a bit of a stretch to say all new stations could be built in the same way! The Southern Railway used to able to knock out prefabricated concrete platforms fairly quickly look at the Chessington South Branch stations. All made at Exmouth junction. However as far as I know the staion building e.g entrance and booking office were still built on site. Nowadays there are lots of very high quality prefabricated buidings you can crane into place (most schools have them). You could even have kit footbridges. So it should be possible to knock out a very resonable station fairly qickly. Look at Aylesbury North. Maybe DB influence they are replacing S Bahn staions with simailr prefabricted platforms and bus shelters, very basic but just about adequte although I wouldn't want to change at Wegeleben on dark cold winters night. It's where it's bespoke to the site and therrefore a one off which makes for delays. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: paul7575 on December 02, 2009, 10:44:05 The Southern Railway used to able to knock out prefabricated concrete platforms fairly quickly look at the Chessington South Branch stations. All made at Exmouth junction. However as far as I know the staion building e.g entrance and booking office were still built on site. You could even have kit footbridges. The famous Exmouth Junction prefabricated stuff is all rotting from the inside now though. All the footbridges have been condemned, and there is a full replacement programme, as I discovered when reading a planning application for Woolston station's footbridge. (Woolston is a listed building believe it or not!) Modern analysis has found that when aggregates were in short supply, they went and picked some up from the local beach... ::) They are apparently using standardised prefabricated steel footbridges for the 'access for all' works - Fratton, Fareham, Haslemere, Forest Hills, that I've seen recently, all have the same basic steelwork, with slight variations for the staircases - but they are clearly from the same catalogue. Paul Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Lee on December 04, 2009, 17:24:39 From the News & Star: (http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/bus_service_timed_to_connect_with_workington_s_new_rail_station_1_646353?referrerPath=/1.50001)
Quote from: News & Star Bus service timed to connect with Workington's new rail station A special bus service is running from Seaton and Northside to the new railway station, Workington North. Journeys are timed to connect with trains and buses will wait if trains are late. The first bus from Seaton is 5.40am and the last from Workington North at 10.35pm. The rail timetable has been beefed up with extra trains between Maryport and Workington calling at Flimby and Workington North. Travel is free until the end of the month. Elsewhere, Stagecoach is operating emergency bus timetables on several routes. The 300 Whitehaven-Carlisle runs in two sections, Whitehaven-Workington and Northside-Carlisle. Journeys to Northside serve the estate. The 30/31 Thornhill/Frizington-Maryport runs normally to Workington where buses now call at the railway station as well as the bus station. A link from Workington to Maryport is provided by a special service via the A66, Papcastle Bridge and A594. There are at least two buses an hour in both directions between 7am and 7pm. Tesco also provides a free hourly bus service from Maryport, Seaton, Broughton Moor and Cockermouth Sheep and Wool Centre to its supermarket in Workington. Departures from Maryport and Workington are at half-past each hour. Buses to Cockermouth can now serve the town centre. There is a temporary stop outside the school in Gallbarrow. But all journeys on the X4 Workington-Keswick-Penrith via Castle Inn still follow the X5 route on the west side of Bassenthwaite because Ouse Bridge remains closed. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Lee on December 11, 2009, 14:54:03 From Network Rail: (http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/content/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=4900&NewsAreaID=2)
Quote from: Network Rail TEMPORARY STATION EXPANDS TO MEET DEMAND Network Rail has extended the length of the platforms at the temporary Workington North railway station to meet passenger demand and the longer trains now calling there. Jo Kaye, Network Rail^s route director, said: ^When I originally conceived the idea of building Workington North, most of the trains had only one or two carriages, so we built the platforms long enough to accommodate them. ^The huge demand from passengers wanting to travel means that additional three-carriage trains have been introduced on a shuttle service between Workington and Maryport. We have responded by extending the temporary platforms by a further 23 metres.^ The shuttle trains call at Workington North and Flimby en route, and travel between the four stations is free, courtesy of train operator Northern Rail. Matt Beeton, area director, Northern Rail added: "Services between Maryport and Workington continue to be very popular and the platform extensions will make it easier for passengers to get on and off trains." Not only have the platforms been lengthened, but the car park has also been enlarged. Not knowing what the demand would be to park at the station, Network Rail originally used 240 tonnes of stone for the car park surface, but that proved to be not enough. Roads near the station were becoming clogged with cars belonging to passengers who could not park at the station 1,000 tonnes of stone have now been used, virtually trebling the size of the car park and providing in the region of 200 spaces. The platform extensions will be in use by the weekend (12 December) Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 11, 2009, 20:59:36 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/8407104.stm):
Quote Commons inquiry into flood damage An inquiry is to be held into the impact of devastating flooding on Cumbria's transport infrastructure. During last month's storms six bridges collapsed, one leading to the death of a police officer, and others were damaged. A railway station and footbridge had to be built to reconnect Workington after collapsed bridges left it split in two. The Commons Transport Committee will look into the causes and whether roads and railways were adequately protected. Members of the committee will investigate whether structural flaws, the age of the bridges or maintenance of them led to their collapse. They will also examine the likelihood of similar incidents being repeated in other parts of the country in the event of floods. Prime Minister Gordon Brown has pledged that the government will fund any road and bridge repairs in the county. On Monday, a temporary Army-built footbridge opened in Workington, to help reunite the community split by the River Derwent. It is named Barker Crossing, after Pc Bill Barker who was swept away when the town's Northside Bridge collapsed, and is 300m (980ft) upstream of the unusable Calva Bridge, which is currently being assessed for repair or demolition. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Lee on December 19, 2009, 18:24:00 From the News & Star: (http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/free_workington_train_link_extended_1_652407?referrerPath=/news_round-up_1_50001)
Quote from: News & Star Free Workington train link extended A vital train service which connects both sides of Workington will continue into the new year, after the government pledged more funds to keep it running. The shuttle service runs hourly between Workington, Flimby, Northside and Maryport and has been invaluable to the community after the floods washed away the town^s bridges. The initial contract - which has seen Northern Rail provide the service for free ^ expires on December 31, and there had been concern in the town that this would spell the end of the lifeline service. But now the government has stepped in, pledging to keep the service going for another six months. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: eightf48544 on December 20, 2009, 11:29:14 [ The famous Exmouth Junction prefabricated stuff is all rotting from the inside now though. They are apparently using standardised prefabricated steel footbridges for the 'access for all' works - Fratton, Fareham, Haslemere, Forest Hills, that I've seen recently, all have the same basic steelwork, with slight variations for the staircases - but they are clearly from the same catalogue. Paul Of course they didn't know about concrete cancer in those days. Still it's lasted 70 years. RE current designs I beleive Networkrail is using standard designs for stations and structures. I also believe they are looking at Plastic modules for buildings. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 19, 2010, 17:16:49 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/8576240.stm):
Quote Hopes to extend free train link in Cumbria A free train service set up to help communities in flood-hit Cumbria could be extended until the end of May. The service, which runs from Workington to Maryport, is said to cost ^10,000 a day - and is believed to have already cost the government ^1m. In November flood waters devastated the area, destroying all the town's bridges, leaving residents cut off. Workington MP Tony Cunningham said he had appealed to the government directly for the extension. The service was originally scheduled to run until the end of 2009, but was granted an extension until 2 May 2010. Workington MP Tony Cunningham said he had asked for the service extension until the end of May because he had concerns the new road bridge would not be ready, despite being told the bridge was a month ahead of schedule. He said: "When the bridge is open there may be teething problems. It's a new bridge with a new road. What we don't want is to suddenly have the end of the free train and a situation forcing a lot of people on to the road at a time when the new bridge is there, with issues surrounding that." He said transport minister Sadiq Khan had said he would extend the service until the end of May. The free service, operated by Northern Rail trains, is funded by the Department of Transport. Mr Cunningham said the service cost ^10,000 a day and had already run up a bill of ^1m. Northern Rail said it was still in discussions with the Department of Transport and Cumbria County Council regarding the extension. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 23, 2010, 19:34:06 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/8640806.stm):
Quote Transport plea after Workington bridge opens Workington residents are being urged not to jump back into their cars, even though the town's temporary road bridge has opened. The county council has begun a campaign to encourage people to continue to use public transport, car share or walk. Motorists no longer face a 18 mile (29km) detour to get across the town, but some congestion is expected. As part of the Keep Workington Moving scheme, postcards have been distributed to more than 14,000 properties. Posters are also being displayed at bus and train stations around west Cumbria. Andrew Moss, Cumbria County Council's head of highways and transportation, said while it was good news the bridge was open, it would not answer all the town's transport needs. "Even though our traffic management team have put in place measures to ease any congestion we recognise that life won't be completely back to normal," he said. "So I would ask people to consider their options before they travel and use buses, trains, foot or pedal power if they can instead of relying on the car. This is particularly so for people making a regular trip such as the daily commute." Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 20, 2010, 21:07:41 From the Times & Star (http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/other/final-week-for-free-train-service-1.710652?referrerPath=news/):
Quote FINAL WEEK FOR FREE TRAIN SERVICE Train services in West Cumbria will revert to pre-flood schedules from the end of this month with free travel and shuttle services coming to an end. Six months after the floods and a month after Workington^s temporary road bridge opened, Northern Rail has confirmed that the shuttles will cease next Friday and fares will be reintroduced next Saturday, with a day return between Workington and Maryport costing ^2. The temporary Workington North station will remain open for the foreseeable future, however, and its usage will be monitored by Northern Rail, Network Rail and the Department for Transport before a decision is made about its future. The changes are expected to force many commuters who have travelled to work by train since November back into their cars, as the first train south from Maryport will leave at 6am and the next will not be until 8.21am. In the evenings return trains will leave Workington at 4.29pm, 6.16pm and 7.12pm. Northbound trains will depart from Workington at 6.48am, 7.43am and 8.29am and return services will leave Maryport at 5.08pm, 6.04pm and 6.50pm. A spokeswoman for Northern Rail said the shuttle, funded by the Department for Transport, had been introduced in ^exceptional circumstances^ and since the road bridge opened passenger numbers had fallen. She acknowledged that the pre-existing timetable had not encouraged commuters but said trying to change that in normal circumstances would take time. It was something that would be looked at if there was enough demand, she added. Maryport^s retiring mayor, Peter Cross, has used the shuttle daily for work and said the train had been a godsend. ^I will have to go back to my car because there will not be a train that will get me to work in time,^ he said. Detailed timetable and fare information is available on posters at stations, from the Workington ticket office, at www.northernrail.org or from Northern Rail on 0845 0000 125. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: grahame on May 20, 2010, 22:35:12 with a day return between Workington and Maryport costing ^2. 16 mile round trip for 2 pounds .... 12.5p / mile. Quote The changes are expected to force many commuters who have travelled to work by train since November back into their cars, as the first train south from Maryport will leave at 6am and the next will not be until 8.21am. She acknowledged that the pre-existing timetable had not encouraged commuters but said trying to change that in normal circumstances would take time. It was something that would be looked at if there was enough demand, she added. I thought that they HAD changed it. Oh - and we know all about "looked at" if there is demand. Perhaps she means "looked at so that we can find the best was to kick it into the long grass" - I'm hopeful that it's changing in these parts but that's so much what we have see over the years. Quote Maryport^s retiring mayor, Peter Cross, has used the shuttle daily for work and said the train had been a godsend. ^I will have to go back to my car because there will not be a train that will get me to work in time,^ he said. Depressing, isn't it. Tell 'em to go green and deny 'em the opportunity. Then when there could be some silver lining from a distaster, don't take long term advantage of it .... Of course, Workington's population is almost identical to Melksham's ... and after our 06:15 train the next one is 18:45 - so I suppose they don't have it as bad! Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: brompton rail on May 21, 2010, 14:11:08 It will prove very hard to collect fares between Workington North and Workington as they journey is about 2 minutes. It might take that long to walk the length of a 156 never mind collect fares.
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 29, 2010, 15:52:48 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/10189872.stm):
Quote Award for Workington flood bridge built by Army A bridge built by the Army in a week after flooding cut a Cumbrian town in two has been chosen for a top prize. Workington's Barker Crossing was built after the town's Northside Bridge was washed away during last November's floods. The 170ft (52 metre) bridge across the River Derwent was built the Corp of Royal Engineers. It was named the outstanding development of the year at the annual Variety Club Property Awards in London. When it opened to the public in December, it was the first time since the floods that people in Workington were able to cross the river, other than by rail. The bridge was named Barker's Crossing after Pc Bill Barker who died when Northside Bridge was washed away. As well as the Army winning praise, Cumbria County Council and Allerdale Borough Council were given credit for their part in making the construction of the bridge possible. Tony Markley, Cumbria County Council's cabinet member for highways and economic development, said: "Barker Crossing has been vitally important to the people of Workington. The Army were fantastic in getting the bridge built so quickly after the floods and fully deserve this award for their efforts in helping Workington back on its feet." Previous winners of the award include Heathrow's Terminal Five, the Welsh Assembly building and the Birmingham Bullring. Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: IndustryInsider on September 14, 2010, 14:36:00 8th October is the date when Workington North, the temporary station, will be closing. Expect it to feature in railway related quizzes in about 30 years time.
http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/general/2010/09/14-time-is-called-at-workington.html (http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/general/2010/09/14-time-is-called-at-workington.html) Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: eightf48544 on September 14, 2010, 15:07:22 It would be interesting to see the traffic figures before and after the road bridge opened.
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: brompton rail on September 14, 2010, 15:17:49 Well the RailNews article suggests that 2000 passengers per day were carried shortly after opening and this has fallen to a trickle now. As Workington North wasn't that close to the housing estates, and I guess Stagecoach will have now restored the previous bus services, the station is now surplus to requirements.
Title: Re: Workington Travel Difficulties Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 08, 2010, 18:42:30 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-11499412):
Quote End of line for Workington's temporary station A temporary railway station built for a flood-hit Cumbrian community is being closed after 10 months use. Network Rail constructed the Workington North station when floods in November 2009 damaged or destroyed several road bridges in the area. The service allowed people to travel across the River Derwent and avoid lengthy road detours. But as road routes reopened, passenger numbers have fallen from a high of 2,200 per day to an average of two. The station was built in six days and features two platforms, a portable waiting room, a gravel car park and a footbridge. Hourly services ran as far north as Maryport, a few miles along the coast. A spokesman for Northern Rail, which operated services from the station, said: "When the station first opened we were experiencing probably about 2,200 people using it per day. But that has unfortunately dwindled down to just one or two. Like any station that needs a lot of investment it is all going to depend on the business case and unfortunately with just one or two people using the train out of the station there is not a business case for keeping it open." The company has promised a ^500,000 upgrade of Workington's main station, which will include refurbishment of platform canopies, additional lighting and improvements to waiting facilities. The final train will stop at the station on Friday evening. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |