Title: Ealing Broadway - station facilities, access issues and many sad incidents (merged posts) Post by: Lee on August 20, 2007, 15:26:01 When the project is complete early in the new year , customers using First Great Western and London Underground services can look forward to a new booking hall , waiting room and toilets (link below.)
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?id=536 Title: Re: Major Improvements For Ealing Broadway Station Post by: Thomas the Tank Engine on August 22, 2007, 03:53:25 Typical of FGW really... tart it up to look good on the surface, but underneath, it's still rotten to the core!
Title: Re: Major Improvements For Ealing Broadway Station Post by: Thomas the Tank Engine on August 24, 2007, 21:11:02 The Ealing Gazette has given the plans a major thumbs down...
A PLANNED ^400,000 makeover for Ealing Broadway tube has been criticised for ignoring mums and disabled people. Work revamping the ticket area, toilets and waiting room is scheduled to start next month. Two extra staff will also be added and new information screens installed. But transport bosses have again ignored calls for access improvements at the station - despite a campaign highlighting the issue by the Gazette last year. Ealing users group spokesman John Beeston called the works exercise cosmetic. He called on Transport for London to take control so the station can benefit from investment similar to tranport hubs like Stratford. Title: Ealing Broadway - station facilities, access issues and many sad incidents (merged posts) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 03, 2008, 23:54:54 See blog at http://ihatefirstgreatwestern.blogspot.com/2008/07/not-very-app-ealing.html
Title: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: tom-langley on April 12, 2009, 20:54:35 I received a parking ticket recently for stopping in one of the bays outside earling broadway.
I had assumed wrongly it was like most stations where you were allowed 20 minutes free. However I was only there about 2 minutes and did not even turn the engine off or get out of the car and the picture even shows my reversing lights as I am reversing out of the bay! I can understand the need for restrictions on a station like this with minimal parking, but it was extremely unclear that absolutely no waiting is allowed and it seems very excessive. Secondly, it has taken them over 4 months to send the notice out, is it still enforceable? Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 12, 2009, 21:01:23 Sorry to hear about that bad experience, tom_langley!
I'll need to do a bit of digging, but if (as you say) absolutely 'no waiting' is allowed - why are there any bays provided in the first place ?? ::) Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: Don on April 12, 2009, 21:07:11 If your reversing lights are on then you are in the car and arguably moving. You are therefore not parked. Worth an appeal at least.
Note that appealing will not cost you any more, any reduction for prompt payment will still apply after the appeal. Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: Phil on April 12, 2009, 21:23:36 Hmm, I tried to check the sign which presumably shows the restrictions via StreetView but it's facing the wrong way. Assuming it's the sign in black facing the station on the lamp-post next to the bloke posing for the camera, I'd have to say it's very high up - you'd have to be stood on the roof of your car even to read it!
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ealing&sll=51.511253,-0.328903&sspn=0.011218,0.027637&g=ealing+broadway&ie=UTF8&ll=51.515019,-0.302317&spn=0.002644,0.006909&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.51513,-0.302307&panoid=ge-ycuCTD8aJgbQtsyGfDg&cbp=12,148.6415108973732,,1,0.0038819875776445133 Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: tom-langley on April 12, 2009, 22:02:17 I am fairly sure that refers to the road and bus stops on the main road. Ealing council have CCTV cameras that will catch you if you stop on the main road. I was actually in the bay, which is private land and has this company enforcing it and have subsequenty found out that its people stood at the station entrance with a handheld camera taking photos of cars.
What annoys me is there is nothing on the entrance to the bay saying that^s its private property and waiting is not allowed. and if you look closley that might even be someone doing it by the dexters shop in the white shirt. Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: moonrakerz on April 13, 2009, 09:09:56 I had assumed wrongly it was like most stations where you were allowed 20 minutes free. Even that doesn't work a lot of the time ! Warminster has a number of "private" taxi bays outside the station and two huge "taxis only" areas all down Station Road - but you still find taxis occupying the public 20 minute bays. I have complained, but doesn't seem to have had any effect, I presume FGW have a "contractual" arrangement with the taxi firms and don't want to upset them ! Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: jane s on April 17, 2009, 18:40:18 Hi Tom,
Sorry to hear about this. I work in Ealing and can confirm 100% that you are NOT allowed to park in those bays, even to load & unload. The clampers in this area are notorious for being very quick off the mark, so if you only got a parking ticket, you are actually lucky! You are not even allowed to stop on the road just to let someone get out, either. As far as I know, the bays are intended for the use of the people working in the shops in the parade &/or the station. I will check what the sign actually says & get back to you. Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: jane s on April 22, 2009, 10:11:12 Okay, here it is - the actual wording on the 2 large yellow signs above the bays is:
"PRIVATE PARKING No stopping/dropping off/waiting or parking in the marked bays at any time Ticketing/wheel clamping/towing in operation Refer to main boards for terms and conditions" The aforementioned main boards (admittedly placed so low down that you can't read them if a car is parked in front of them) begin with: "PRIVATE PROPERTY 24 hours 7 days a week Vehicles stopping or waiting on this land not displaying a valid permit will be clamped and or towed away and or issued with a fixed penalty charge immediately with no notice.........." Most of the bays also have a sign on them stating that the space belongs to National Rail, K shoes or whoever. As for why your ticket took so long to arrive - well, I'm afraid I can't answer that one. But it seems pretty clear to me that you were in breach of their rather draconian rules...... Title: Re: Parking ticket Ealing broadway Post by: super tm on April 22, 2009, 19:43:28 Try this forum. There is a whole section on parking tickets. Worth a look.
http://forums.pepipoo.com/ Or more particularly this http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?autocom=ibwiki&cmd=cat&id=4 Title: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: Rogang on October 08, 2009, 20:45:03 Just a quick word of support to the driver and on-board staff on the 7:29 Swansea-Paddington, and station staff at Ealing Broadway following this morning's fatality. Too many people witnessed a particularly nasty suicide, and thoughts go to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 09, 2009, 17:59:35 Indeed, Rogang: thank you for posting here so sympathetically about this sad incident. :(
From the Ealing Gazette (http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2009/10/09/woman-killed-by-train-64767-24893073/): Quote Woman killed by train A young woman was killed yesterday (Thursday) at Ealing Broadway station, after apparently stepping in front of a train. She was hit shortly before 10.30am by a First Great Western express service from Swansea to Paddington, which was not due to stop at the station. Onlookers were stunned as staff scrambled to deal with the aftermath of the incident - evacuating the platform and shutting down trains and underground services. Rail and Central Line services were disrupted for around an hour. Paramedics, fire crews and large numbers of police officers were sent to Ealing Broadway, but nothing could be done to save the victim. She is believed to have been killed instantly by the impact with the train. An air ambulance was placed on standby but was not despatched. The incident is not being treated as suspicious. One traveller said station staff had moved quickly to deal with the incident, as people waiting for trains at the busy interchange looked on in horror. A First Great Western manager said he was ordered to evacuate the station immediately after the collision. One man, who helps his friend run the Modern Food stall on one of the platforms, said: "It's a real tragedy that this young lady went under the train. I saw them carrying out body bags - it was terrible. I'm from northern Iraq and I've seen war and death, but it's still so horrible to see a waste of a precious life." Another worker at the nearby Costa coffee stall said: "I was busy serving coffee, so I did not really see anything. Then we were told to leave, but there wasn't really a panic. All I heard is that it was a young woman." Services were severely disrupted following the incident and passengers trying to use the Central Line were directed to use the 207 bus. The station was eventually handed back to the control of Network Rail at 11.40am. At the time of going to press, police had not named the dead woman. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: onthecushions on October 12, 2009, 13:30:29 I was on this service (coach A). It arrived into Paddington at about 11.50 (10.02 from Reading, non stop). I was too far back to see/hear the tragedy but there was a full brake application from line speed (125 mph) just before Ealing B, stopping well before Acton M. There was a very prompt and accurate announcement (a fatality, not an incident) with frequent updates. The buffet served free hot drinks (but wouldn't sell food). There was some damage reported to the train (it looked like the coupling cover was bent) and it was initially planned to reverse to Ealing B to detrain customers. Evidently all was fixed sufficiently as the set proceeded to Paddington at about 40 mph. I've been at several similar 'incidents' and this was handled perfectly with BT Police etc clearing up in about 70 minutes. (They had to walk the track and train with plastic bags). I've known it take 4 hours. I asked the platform manager to pass to the driver our sympathies and thanks for his prompt actions. He was said to be coping well and being offered help. OTC Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: IndustryInsider on October 12, 2009, 14:11:47 I was too far back to see/hear the tragedy but there was a full brake application from line speed (125 mph) just before Ealing B, stopping well before Acton Just for the sake of accuracy, there's been a 30/50 speed restriction on the Up Main at Hanwell for the last two weeks (new track, ballast and sleepers), so after accelerating away from that the train would not have been doing any more than 80mph. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: Mookiemoo on October 12, 2009, 15:16:13 The buffet served free hot drinks (but wouldn't sell food). i wonder why not? Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: devon_metro on October 12, 2009, 15:42:12 The buffet served free hot drinks (but wouldn't sell food). i wonder why not? They aren't required to? Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: Tim on October 12, 2009, 15:46:04 The buffet served free hot drinks (but wouldn't sell food). i wonder why not? They aren't required to? My guess would be "too busy with drinks" Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: onthecushions on October 12, 2009, 16:34:57 I was too far back to see/hear the tragedy but there was a full brake application from line speed (125 mph) just before Ealing B, stopping well before Acton Just for the sake of accuracy, there's been a 30/50 speed restriction on the Up Main at Hanwell for the last two weeks (new track, ballast and sleepers), so after accelerating away from that the train would not have been doing any more than 80mph. You're right, it did stop smartly. The MTU's do pick up better than the Valentas. Do you know how the two compare in terms of where full speed is attained on leaving Paddington? OTC Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: Mookiemoo on October 12, 2009, 16:43:33 The buffet served free hot drinks (but wouldn't sell food). i wonder why not? They aren't required to? I was not suggesting that they give the food away.........but I cant see why would refuse to SELL it Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 October 2009 Post by: IndustryInsider on October 12, 2009, 17:04:07 The MTU's do pick up better than the Valentas. Do you know how the two compare in terms of where full speed is attained on leaving Paddington? There's not a great deal of difference as the MTU's have been downrated to match the Valenta's horse-power - with the associated noise and fuel benefits. They are much more consistent though as they are new and more reliable. Top speed is usually reached somewhere between Hayes and West Drayton coming out of London. Title: Ealing Broadway fatalities (merged topics) Post by: Ollie on November 09, 2009, 00:03:07 22:37 Paddington - Bristol TM has struck someone at Ealing Broadway.
Thoughts go out to all involved. Title: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 November 2009 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 09, 2009, 14:34:59 From the Ealing Gazette (http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2009/11/09/man-hit-by-train-at-ealing-broadway-station-64767-25125744/):
Quote Man hit by train at Ealing Broadway station A man was killed instantly after jumping off a station platform into the path of a through-train late on Sunday night. The driver of the 10:37pm Paddington to Bristol service, which was approaching Ealing Broadway station, reported seeing a man run from the platform and onto the track. British Transport Police were called to Ealing Broadway National Rail station at 10:48pm on Sunday November 8 and the incident is not being treated as suspicious. The line was closed for nearly an hour and was fully reopened after 98 minutes. This latest incident follows the death of Eva Sanders of Orchard Gate, Greenford, last month. The 51-year-old teacher was hit by a First Great Western express service from Swansea to Paddington on Thursday October 9 after apparently being seen stepping in front of the train. Title: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 November 2009 Post by: dog box on November 09, 2009, 17:30:29 I was T/M on that service last night ...and i would like to thank the off duty staff who were travelling last night for there assistance, it made my job a whole lot easier.
i would also like to thank the patience of 99.9% of the passengers on the train especially the group of football supporters who were travelling, I have spoke to the driver involved earlier, who is shaken but ok Title: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 November 2009 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 09, 2009, 17:36:27 Thanks for posting that, dog box. :(
Please pass on our sympathy to the driver, on behalf of this forum. As Ollie said, our thoughts are with all of those involved in dealing with this sad incident. Title: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 November 2009 Post by: Garetheighteen on November 10, 2009, 23:40:03 I was T/M on that service last night ...and i would like to thank the off duty staff who were travelling last night for there assistance, it made my job a whole lot easier. i would also like to thank the patience of 99.9% of the passengers on the train especially the group of football supporters who were travelling, I have spoke to the driver involved earlier, who is shaken but ok I was a passenger on this train and have to say the staff were superb, The Train Manager was excellent, very approachable and made us all feel at ease in a tough and stressful situation. As always there is one customer who feels the need to cause problems and felt the T/M dealt with him very well and kept his cool. Full credit to all the staff on & off duty on that service! Title: Ealing Broadway Fatality - 8 November 2009 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 11, 2009, 00:12:06 Thank you for posting, Garetheighteen - and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum, even if it is in unfortunate circumstances. :(
I've 'sort of' met your train manager before - and I'm glad 'dog box' was able to deal with that sad situation so well. :-X Title: Ealing Broadway fatalities (merged topics) Post by: kazbear on November 11, 2009, 15:37:25 Here we go again.
11/11/09 14:45 First Great Western services have been disrupted due to emergency services being called to the West Ealing area. Delays, alterations and cancellations can still be expected. Heathrow Connect services remain suspended. London Buses and London Underground are accepting FGW tickets on all reasonable routes. Services are also being disrupted due to Emergency Services dealing with an incident in the Banbury area. Services between Oxford and Banbury are subject to delay, alteration and cancellation. Replacement Road Transport is in operation bewteen Oxford and Banbury. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: grandsire on November 11, 2009, 16:35:02 How many fatalities are occuring per station per year? At what point does it become cost effective to put up glass barriers along the platform edges ( the sort that have remotely operated doors which only open once a train has arrived and is stationary - have a feeling they are planned for Thameslink, or is it Crossrail)
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: paul7575 on November 11, 2009, 17:03:20 Ealing and West Ealing are the national record holders apparently, or so it was reported a couple of years ago.
The major issue with platform edge doors is you really need dedicated rolling stock, like the Jubilee Line. Even if you could guarantee a 'Thames Turbo only' service, you'd need to deal with a variety of lengths of train. Gets expensive. Then in the open railway system there's still level crossings, overbridges, it would just move the problem elsewhere... Paul Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Oxman on November 11, 2009, 17:07:31 I understand this one was an accident.
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Rogang on November 11, 2009, 21:00:01 West Ealing 12:57 Paddington - Oxford. NOT suicide. Gentleman was 'swept' off the platform into path of train. Investigation will be on-going despite being non-suspicious. As always, thoughts with the driver and station staff, especially due to the circumstances of this one.
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 13, 2009, 18:26:22 From the Ealing Gazette (http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2009/11/12/two-killed-in-train-accidents-64767-25161497/):
Quote Two killed in train accidents Two men have died after being hit by oncoming trains in two separate incidents at Ealing stations just three days apart On Armistice Day, a swarm of police cars and ambulances surrounded West Ealing Railway station after a man died having fallen on to the tracks from the platform. Neighbours report seeing an air ambulance circling in the sky above looking for a landing site at about 1pm. It eventually landed in the Waitrose car park close to the station. A station ticket officer said a man had been talking on his mobile close to the edge of the platform before he fell. He kept repeating: "It's such a tragic waste of life." A British Transport Police spokesman said: "The incident was reported to police at 1.12pm and was attended by BTP, Metropolitan Police and paramedics from the London Ambulance Service and air ambulance. The incident is being treated as non-suspicious and on first accounts, it appears to be a tragic accident." The train involved was the 12.57pm Paddington to Oxford service. The line was closed until 2.15pm when it was handed back to Network Rail. Only three days earlier, on Sunday, November 8, a man was killed instantly after allegedly jumping off a station platform on to the tracks late at night. The driver of the 10.37pm Paddington to Bristol service, which was approaching Ealing Broadway station, reported seeing a man run from the platform and into the path of the train. British Transport Police were called to Ealing Broadway National Rail station at 10.48pm and the incident is not being treated as suspicious. The line was closed for nearly an hour and was fully reopened after 98 minutes. The bodies of the two men are still awaiting formal identification and police are due to inform next of kin. These latest incidents follow the death of Eva Sanders of Orchard Gate, Greenford, last month. The 51-year-old teacher was hit by a First Great Western express service from Swansea to Paddington on Thursday, October 9 after apparently being seen stepping in front of the train. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: devon_metro on November 13, 2009, 18:40:35 I'm not aware of any trains using the main line platforms at Ealing Broadway, it wouldn't be too difficult to fence them off.
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Mookiemoo on November 13, 2009, 19:09:06 I'm not aware of any trains using the main line platforms at Ealing Broadway, it wouldn't be too difficult to fence them off. Noddy view - you lose the ability of being able to offload trains there should there be a problem in Paddington (remember the suitcase issue 24 March 2004).....dont know if it would happen by a layman could think of times it might. And unless you do it at every station where there is a fast service through it - no point - they'll just find another point. Ealing broadway may be convenient - but its no more convenient than any of the other not all trains stop there stations if someone wants to kill themselves. And if they do, they will Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Mookiemoo on November 13, 2009, 19:10:12 In fact don't even go down that route because the minute it is suggested Elf and Safety will issue a maximum through speed at any station to protect th vulnerable public and then we'll be crawling through stations
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: devon_metro on November 13, 2009, 20:12:53 I mean metal (moveable) barriers, just so passengers can't access the platforms.
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Ollie on November 15, 2009, 17:21:38 I mean metal (moveable) barriers, just so passengers can't access the platforms. It wouldn't work, people will either climb over or use the relief line platforms.The West Ealing incident may have been a tragic accident, but it was on the relief, and the train still had enough of an impact to cause the man to die. Paddington had someone jump in front of a train recently, and they lost an arm, so it goes to show, people who really want to do it, will try anywhere. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Tim on November 16, 2009, 15:43:52 , so it goes to show, people who really want to do it, will try anywhere. That logic sounds plausible to me too Ollie, but there is (some) evidence to the contary... Before North Sea gas was introduced people used to commit suicide with town gas which contained a high percentage of Carbon monoxide by putting their heads in unlit gas ovens. When we converted to non-toxic North Sea gas experts assumed that these wanting to kill themselves woudl find another way but the statistsics showed that many of them didn't. the total number of suicides dropped and stayed down for many many years. (in summary between 1963 and 1975 the annual number of suicides in England and Wales showed a sudden, unexpected decline from 5,714 to 3,693 at a time when suicide continued to increase in most other European countries.) The "they will find another way" arguement resurfaced as part fo the oppostion to the nappy state restricting paracetamol packs to 16 pills of fewer. I don't know that the evidence showeds on this yet. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Tim on November 16, 2009, 15:44:51 I meant "nanny" not "nappy"
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Ollie on November 16, 2009, 16:46:01 , so it goes to show, people who really want to do it, will try anywhere. That logic sounds plausible to me too Ollie, but there is (some) evidence to the contary... Before North Sea gas was introduced people used to commit suicide with town gas which contained a high percentage of Carbon monoxide by putting their heads in unlit gas ovens. When we converted to non-toxic North Sea gas experts assumed that these wanting to kill themselves woudl find another way but the statistsics showed that many of them didn't. the total number of suicides dropped and stayed down for many many years. (in summary between 1963 and 1975 the annual number of suicides in England and Wales showed a sudden, unexpected decline from 5,714 to 3,693 at a time when suicide continued to increase in most other European countries.) The "they will find another way" arguement resurfaced as part fo the oppostion to the nanny state restricting paracetamol packs to 16 pills of fewer. I don't know that the evidence showeds on this yet. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: eightf48544 on November 16, 2009, 23:43:40 I found the following for 2005 on the HMRI website.
Trespass and vandalism ^280 members of the public died as a result of trespass and suicide, of whom 189 were confirmed or suspected suicides. ^7 children under the age of 16 died while trespassing, up from a historical low of 2 child trespass deaths during 2004. ^452 (43%) of the 1057 reportable train incidents were due to acts of vandalism, continuing the downward trend of recent years. there are other years reports but they are in a different form. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: James Vertigan on January 30, 2010, 21:42:09 Another fatality at Ealing Broadway today apparently - knocked out services including the Greenford line that I use during the week (and sometimes on Saturday if I want to go up to Ealing):
http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=conaccident004.htm Any information on the service involved? Sympathies to the driver and others affected. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: devon_metro on January 31, 2010, 11:20:01 Was a HEX unit. At one point 3 HSTs were queing to head East at Swindon! Incident occurre around 1210, mainlines still closed 1530
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: eightf48544 on January 31, 2010, 12:31:43 Without wishing to trivialise these incidents and therir effect on train crews and other staff. It does seem that they are causing considerable delays whilst the incident is dealt with.
In the sixties when i was on the railways it was likely the tains would be runing again often within 40 minutes, even when the power had to be switched off and on. However, what that meant was that although the body was moved off the track it was usually left covered up, unless very close to a station, by the side of the track and recovered later. i have passed several such bundles on my travels and unless you knew it could be anything. One of the problems is that the police seem to treat the site of body as the crime scene, whereas the actual incident most probably took place further down the line where the person was first hit. The site of body being a factor of the speed of the train, how the person was hit and possibly even the front profile of the train. The other probelm seems to be the reluctane to cover the body and recover it later. I'm not sure how to overcome these problems as we seem to have different attitude to death than we had in the sixties. I think the reason being that in the sixties most of the supervisors and managers on the railways at that time had been through the war and had either seen active service or been in the Blitz so were possibly less reverential to a body on the track than we are today. Their main aim being to get the trains running as quickly as possible. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Electric train on January 31, 2010, 13:48:16 Without wishing to trivialise these incidents and therir effect on train crews and other staff. It does seem that they are causing considerable delays whilst the incident is dealt with. The treating it as a crime scene has a lot to do with it, there is a set process for gathering evidence, confirming death and that the death occurred at the scene etc. Trains used to be run past such things at caution while police and staff were on or about the line this practice is not used nowadays indeed NR are monitoring the Netherlands Railways and their recent ban on their equivalent to our Red Zone working.In the sixties when i was on the railways it was likely the tains would be runing again often within 40 minutes, even when the power had to be switched off and on. However, what that meant was that although the body was moved off the track it was usually left covered up, unless very close to a station, by the side of the track and recovered later. i have passed several such bundles on my travels and unless you knew it could be anything. One of the problems is that the police seem to treat the site of body as the crime scene, whereas the actual incident most probably took place further down the line where the person was first hit. The site of body being a factor of the speed of the train, how the person was hit and possibly even the front profile of the train. The other probelm seems to be the reluctane to cover the body and recover it later. I'm not sure how to overcome these problems as we seem to have different attitude to death than we had in the sixties. I think the reason being that in the sixties most of the supervisors and managers on the railways at that time had been through the war and had either seen active service or been in the Blitz so were possibly less reverential to a body on the track than we are today. Their main aim being to get the trains running as quickly as possible. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: onthecushions on January 31, 2010, 19:39:02 Our GW main line is exasperatingly popular with suicides, I seem to experience them weekly. I suggest a media solution. Let NR and FGW only report, "A person attempted to jump in front of a high speed train at xxx General station yesterday. S/he was slightly injured and after being arrested by BTP was taken to the Royal yyy Hospital A&E where s/he was treated after waiting for 11 hours. Subsequently ATOC/NR banned him/her from railway property for life, instituted criminal proceedings for trespass and civil proceedings for damages in respect of zzz minutes of late running to services." Like the gas oven, if there is the perception that it might not do the job, then.... OTC Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: devon_metro on January 31, 2010, 20:07:47 Human rights would soon put a stop to that ;)
Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Electric train on January 31, 2010, 20:23:58 Our GW main line is exasperatingly popular with suicides, I seem to experience them weekly. A life ban from the railway infrastructure would not deter some who was intent on taking their own life, arresting and charging survivors is not the answer to their problems are realistically is not in the railways or public interest. There is no simple answer, improved station security such that areas not normally used are closed off, a poster and TV campaign aimed at those intent on suicide to contact Samaritans possibly at hot spots phones with direct access to the SamaritansI suggest a media solution. Let NR and FGW only report, "A person attempted to jump in front of a high speed train at xxx General station yesterday. S/he was slightly injured and after being arrested by BTP was taken to the Royal yyy Hospital A&E where s/he was treated after waiting for 11 hours. Subsequently ATOC/NR banned him/her from railway property for life, instituted criminal proceedings for trespass and civil proceedings for damages in respect of zzz minutes of late running to services." Like the gas oven, if there is the perception that it might not do the job, then.... OTC Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Ollie on February 01, 2010, 02:41:06 As Electric Train pointed out it takes time sometimes as BTP want to declare whether it's suspicious or not. They are trying to speed this up by having drivers call them instead of waiting for BTP to arrive on site.
And not meaning to be graphic but sometimes it takes longer to clean the scene. From what I heard Saturday's fatality was messy.. Also in some cases everything has to stay as it is as BTP will sometimes get SOCO on site to do photos. In the case of Ealing on Saturday, the relief lines opened after about 1hr 30mins. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 01, 2010, 18:16:31 From the Ealing Gazette (http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2010/02/01/man-killed-by-train-at-ealing-broadway-station-64767-25736449/):
Quote A man died after being struck by a train at Ealing Broadway station on Saturday afternoon. Police, ambulance and fire crews were called to the busy station at 12:10pm and an air ambulance helicopter landed at Haven Green as onlookers watched in astonishment. A 45-year-old man from Chiswick, who is yet to be identified, was killed instantly at the scene. A worker who saw the commotion outside his shop, said: "There must have been around 10 police cars and the helicopter landed and I knew something bad had happened. It was really scary and one customer said he saw the man's limbs on the line. It must have been awful." The train involved was the Heathrow to Paddington service and the incident is not being treated as suspicious by British Transport Police. The railway line was handed back to Network Rail at 2:41pm. A London Ambulance Spokeswoman said: "We were called just after 12:10pm on Saturday January 30 to reports of a person under a train at Ealing Broadway rail station. We sent one ambulance crew, a fast response car, two duty officers and a doctor but sadly the patient had died at the scene." A file is now being prepared for the coroner. Title: Line problem between Ealing Broadway and Greenford causing delays - 24 June 2010 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 24, 2010, 14:02:53 From FGW live updates:
Quote Line incident Line problem between Ealing Broadway and Greenford. Train services are being disrupted due to signalling problems between Ealing Broadway and Greenford. Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 30 minutes can be expected. London Underground are accepting First Great Western tickets on any reasonable route. Last Updated: 24/06/2010 13:51 Title: Re: Line problem between Ealing Broadway and Greenford causing delays - 24 June 2010 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 30, 2010, 13:00:58 ... and again, today - from FGW live updates (http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/LiveUpdateList.aspx):
Quote Line incident Line problem between West Ealing and Greenford. Train services are being disrupted due to signalling problems between West Ealing and Greenford. Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 20 minutes can be expected. All London Paddington to Greenford and Greenford to London Paddington services will not be operating. Heathrow Connect services will call additionally at Acton Main Line in both directions. London Underground are accepting First Great Western tickets on reasonable routes. Last Updated: 30/06/2010 12:29 Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: JayMac on July 21, 2010, 18:48:16 With regard to the apparent accidental death of the man 'swept off the platform' at West Ealing, one of the Community Police Officers who first responded is raising money for the Air Ambulance that was called in that day.
From Ealing Gazette (http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2010/07/21/young-policewoman-to-skydive-for-good-cause-64767-26901673/): Quote Young policewoman to skydive for good cause AN ACTON-based police officer is to jump out of a plane for the air ambulance after she experienced their work first hand while on patrol. Police Community Support Officer Hannah Cooper, is part of a special team helping to track down wanted criminals and is based at Acton Police Station. Until recently she was part of the Cleveland Ward Safer Neighbourhood Team. The 19-year-old, of Sudbury, said: "On Remembrance day last year a call came out saying someone had been hit by a train West Ealing Station. We were walking past at the time and helped give first aid before the ambulance arrived. He was in a bad state, when the helicopter arrived they were amazing, they were inspirational." It was the first time the young woman has had to deal with such a traumatic incident. She added: "I just ran to help and then everything was so hands on, so nothing was really going through my mind. I helped hold the drips and do what I could while they worked on him for about twenty minutes until they pronounced him dead. Then I took witness statements and things like that. It was only after things had settled down that it sunk in." Ms Cooper is planning to make the tandem jump in Cambridge and hopes to raise ^500 for London's Air Ambulance, a registered charity. She added: "I didn't realise they needed funding for what they do, they need about ^650 a year to keep the helicopter going, so I decided to do a parachute jump for them." It will be the first time Ms Cooper has jumped out of a plane and the day, August 21, will be especially memorable as she will be doing it on her birthday. She added: "I can abseil and things like that but jumping out of a plane seems a more scary but I think I'll get over it, I'll just close my eyes and jump. My friends just think I'm a bit of a fool and my mum's a bit worried, but she worries about everything." Ms Cooper is hoping to smash her ^500 target and has already raised more than ^400. Visit www.justgiving.com/hannah-cooper-999 to donate or find out more. Title: Re: Ealing Broadway Fatalities Post by: Phil on July 21, 2010, 20:03:10 I'm always happy to support air ambulances. It got us out of a potentially nasty situation at Melksham's Party in the Park on Saturday, when a fellow worker had a hog-roast blow back in his face. St John's were on site & swung into action immediately, but the guy needed hospitalisation, and a simultaneous road traffic accident outside Melksham meant a "normal" ambulance would have been delayed - so the Wiltshire Air Ambulance was called. Us event organisers had to hastily clear an area for it to land and ensure everyone was safe, and it's a tribute to my team that the vast majority of the public didn't realise anything was up, and many thought the arrival of the helicopter was all part of the show. Thankfully the patient has now been discharged from hospital, having suffered 3rd degree burns. God knows what we'd have done without it.
Edit: sorry, off topic I know. Title: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: SDS on November 26, 2010, 11:46:01 Quote from: FGW
Quote Train services between London Paddington and Reading are being disrupted due to a person hit by a train in the Ealing Broadway area.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected. Customers travelling between Reading and London Paddington are able to use South West Trains services from Reading to London Waterloo. Customers travelling between Oxford to London Paddington are able to use Chiltern Railways between Oxford and London Marylebone. London Underground are accepting FGW tickets on all reasonable routes. All trains at 7 minutes past the hour from Oxford to Paddington will terminate at Reading. All trains at 1 minute past the hour from Oxford to Paddington will be cancelled.Last Updated: 26/11/2010 11:09 Heard it was at AML. Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: James Vertigan on November 26, 2010, 12:34:54 Quote from: FGW Quote Train services between London Paddington and Reading are being disrupted due to a person hit by a train in the Ealing Broadway area.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected. Customers travelling between Reading and London Paddington are able to use South West Trains services from Reading to London Waterloo. Customers travelling between Oxford to London Paddington are able to use Chiltern Railways between Oxford and London Marylebone. London Underground are accepting FGW tickets on all reasonable routes. All trains at 7 minutes past the hour from Oxford to Paddington will terminate at Reading. All trains at 1 minute past the hour from Oxford to Paddington will be cancelled.Last Updated: 26/11/2010 11:09 Heard it was at AML. There was talk of a road fatality on Horn Lane outside AML as I've seen a picture of an air ambulance outside the station via the ActonW3.com community forum (of which I am a member) but it looks like it was actually on the railway. Does anyone know if the CCTV is operational at AML? I've often wondered. It is a bit of an out of the way station and I imagine sometimes quite intimidating late at night. Story up on Ealing Gazette site confirms fatality was indeed at Acton Main Line: http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2010/11/26/trains-suspended-after-fatality-at-acton-64767-27721996/ Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: stebbo on November 26, 2010, 13:32:45 Use Chiltern Railways between Marylebone and Oxford? A few years too early methinks.
Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: James Vertigan on November 26, 2010, 15:33:24 ActonW3.com now has article online suggesting a 40-year old female was on the high speed tracks and was hit by the 10:15 service to Cardiff.
http://www.actonw3.com/info/conaccident021.htm Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 12, 2010, 19:52:52 And yet again, sadly - from FGW live updates:
Quote Line incident Line problem between Reading and London Paddington. Train services are being disrupted due to a person hit by a train between Reading and London Paddington. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays can be expected. Services are currently unable to call at Ealing Broadway station. First Great Western ticket holders may use London Underground services between Ealing Broadway and London Paddington. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:21 Service incidents 18:05 Oxford to London Paddington due 19:51 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Ealing Broadway. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:32 18:43 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:25 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Ealing Broadway. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:18 19:15 London Paddington to Reading due 20:12 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:08 19:43 London Paddington to Oxford due 21:27 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Ealing Broadway. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:34 Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 12, 2010, 20:16:21 Update, from FGW live updates:
Quote Line incident Line problem between Reading and London Paddington. Train services have been disrupted due to a person hit by a train earlier between Reading and London Paddington. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays may still occur. First Great Western ticket holders may use London Underground services between Ealing Broadway and London Paddington. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 20:06 Service incidents 18:43 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:25 This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Ealing Broadway. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:18 19:15 London Paddington to Reading due 20:12 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 19:08 19:43 London Paddington to Oxford due 21:27 This train will be terminated at Reading. It will no longer call at: Tilehurst, Pangbourne, Goring & Streatley, Cholsey, Didcot Parkway, Radley and Oxford. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated: 12/12/2010 20:06 Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: IndustryInsider on December 12, 2010, 20:53:21 Tonight's was a very low speed one, with the person concerned trapped under the train for some time, eventually taken to hospital but not killed. That's why after a short while, the main lines were open again.
Title: Re: Person hit by Train in Ealing Broadway area. Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 12, 2010, 21:04:42 Thanks for that further information, IndustryInsider! :)
Title: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Brucey on February 10, 2013, 16:36:49 From FGW JourneyCheck
Quote Owing to a person hit by a train between London Paddington and Slough all lines are blocked. Service involved was the 15:48 Heathrow T5 to London Paddington (Heathrow Express) service.Impact: Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 45 mins at short notice. An estimate for the resumption of normal services will be provided as soon as the problem has been fully assessed. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: James Vertigan on February 10, 2013, 16:37:14 Picking up news of a fatality at Ealing Broadway a little earlier this afternoon.
As always, thoughts with the train crew involved and the family of the deceased. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 10, 2013, 18:03:50 An update, from First Great Western JourneyCheck:
Quote Line problem: between London Paddington and Slough Following a person hit by a train earlier between London Paddington and Slough all lines have now reopened. Train services running through these stations are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled or delayed by up to 30 mins at short notice. Disruption is expected until 18:00 10/02. Message Received: 10/02/2013 17:44 Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: TonyK on February 10, 2013, 18:45:11 From Twitter:
Quote First Great Western @FGW For Information. Owing to a person hit by a train between London Paddington and Slough all lines are blocked. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 10, 2013, 18:56:43 Thanks for posting, FTN, but as this relates to the same incident, I've moved your post and merged it here. :)
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: trainer on February 10, 2013, 21:15:30 I was on the 16:03 to Bristol TM (BRI) which only got as far as Acton before being sent back to Paddington. It was re-started at approx 16:58 as a fast service to Chippenham then picking up the normal calling pattern of Bath Spa, and BRI. In all his announcements the Train Manager reminded us that all the disruption was because of 'a tragedy' at Ealing, which I think helped us keep things in proportion.
However, there was major disruption to many people as all those for Reading, Didcot Pkwy and Swindon disembarked and re-boarded the service behind, and many waiting for the later service boarded our train giving the standard class section the air of the rush hour and many standing for over an hour. The train manager (I think wisely) checked no tickets in first class and a few 'lucky' pax travelled in comfort they hadn't paid for (I was on 1st Class Rover) and although not announcing that he was not enforcing the rules , tacitly did so. He also kept us informed personally (before the train filled to bursting) by walking through the train. The upshot was that I was only 55 minutes late at BRI and the set and crew were positioned to return on the 19:00 to Paddington. I believe full marks are due to those who were able to deal with the original incident with alacrity (and I hope sensitivity) those who decided to run the service fast to Chippenham and the train crew for keeping us informed. The down side was the severe overcrowding for much of the journey, but since those who packed onto the train after its return to Paddington could have caught the train they had originally gone for and probably had a seat after Reading, there may have been an element of a self-inflicted wound. Because I don't know what was announced on the platform, I can't reach a full judgement about this. I was fortunate. There will be those tonight with less happy images of dealing with what happened and at least one family bereft of a loved one. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 10, 2013, 21:21:13 Thanks for posting those constructive and thought-provoking comments, trainer.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Ollie on February 11, 2013, 01:11:04 Thanks for posting those constructive and thought-provoking comments, trainer. My understanding is the person in question didn't die at the scene and was taken by paramedics, so I do hope that the person gets the help they need and has a speedy recovery. Thoughts do of course go to those involved who witnessed it all. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: trainer on February 11, 2013, 11:10:29 Thanks for that update Ollie. That may explain why the lines re-opened so swiftly.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 11, 2013, 12:31:33 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-21404918):
Quote Wales rugby fans suffer train disruption in London Wales rugby fans coming home by train following the Six Nations win over France in Paris could face long delays. First Great Western services between London Paddington and south Wales have been disrupted after a person was hit by a train at Ealing Broadway. Services may be cancelled or delayed by up to 45 minutes at short notice, said the train operator. Fans returning to west Wales by train on Sunday already faced up to 75 minutes added to journey times. Engineering work meant First Great Western and Arriva Trains Wales services were suspended between Cardiff and west Wales with buses running instead. Wales beat France 16-6 on Saturday, their first win in this year's Six Nations. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: bobm on February 11, 2013, 23:30:21 Thanks for posting those constructive and thought-provoking comments, trainer. My understanding is the person in question didn't die at the scene and was taken by paramedics, so I do hope that the person gets the help they need and has a speedy recovery. Thoughts do of course go to those involved who witnessed it all. Indeed so, as reported by the Ealing Gazette (http://www.ealinggazette.co.uk/ealing-news/local-ealing-news/2013/02/11/pensioner-hit-by-a-train-at-ealing-broadway-64767-32790286/) Quote AN ELDERLY woman is recovering in hospital after being hit by a train on Sunday. The victim, believed to be in her 70s, was treated at the scene for head injuries Ealing Broadway station. A witness who asked not to be named, said he was on the other side of the platform when she was hit by the fast-moving overground train which was not stopping at the station. He said: ^I heard a loud bang and tuned around and then I saw something on the platform. I didn^t realise it was a person until I got closer and then ran quickly to alert staff and called an ambulance. She was bleeding quite heavily from her face but she was breathing. The train had stopped further down the track. ^It was a shock. I^m just glad to hear she wasn^t more seriously hurt." Four ambulances, medics in a motorbike and one in a car as well as the team from London's air ambulance in a car were sent at about 4.10pm. She was taken to St Mary's Hospital in Paddington by ambulance escorted by a doctor from the air ambulance. Her injuries are not thought to be life threatening. The station was closed for about half an hour. British Transport Police are still investigating the cause of the accident but say they are not treating it as suspicious. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Brucey on February 12, 2013, 10:17:44 Passing through stations at high speed, it can be quite shocking to see how close some people stand to the edge, even after the driver has used the horn.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: trainer on February 12, 2013, 16:50:43 I am grateful to have all these updates and I am not going to speculate specifically on why this poor lady came to be struck, but I agree with Brucey's last observation. While waiting at Yatton on 4th Feb I noticed a teenage girl with a pair of earphones clasped to her ears standing close to the edge of the platform even after a recorded and visual announcement was made to stand clear because a non-stop service was passing through. I was too far away to have made myself heard even if she had not had music pounding in her ears. Fortunately she casually looked up and sauntered over the yellow line as the Crosscountry train, probably going at line speed (100mph at Yatton I think), reached the platform possibly having heard the horn, but she seemed completely unconcerned.
On another occasion I watched a wheeled suit case blow over towards the platform edge as a goods train passed through and thought then that they can create as much turbulence, or more, as a fast passenger train. Perhaps the yellow line warnings need to be more prominently signed at station entrances. I hesitate to advocate yet more signage, but if it is effective is preventing accidents, it is a good thing. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: paul7575 on February 12, 2013, 17:43:08 On another occasion I watched a wheeled suit case blow over towards the platform edge as a goods train passed through and thought then that they can create as much turbulence, or more, as a fast passenger train. They definitely make far more turbulence, which is why yellow lines on platforms are required for freight at 60 mph, but not for passenger trains unless they exceed 100 mph. Many existing yellow lines are not actually required under the current group standard - which might be why they are often ignored... http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Infrastructure/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GIRT7016%20Iss%204.pdf Paul Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: johoare on February 12, 2013, 20:48:56 It worries me at Slough too.. since the Windsor train comes in right next to the fast up mainline platform.. And I would imagine it might have a higher than average amount of tourists on or people that aren't used to that station at least..
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: BBM on February 13, 2013, 09:30:06 Citing a non-FGW example, one day a few years ago I travelled to and from Potters Bar and I found the platforms very narrow and uncomfortable by the waiting rooms whenever fast trains passed through (although I think the line speed there is 110 mph rather than 125). The picture in the link below shows what I mean:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/PBR/images/photos/800/o2709-0000052.jpg (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/PBR/images/photos/800/o2709-0000052.jpg) Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: Brucey on February 13, 2013, 09:33:12 At Wembley Central, the station operator (London Underground) have gone as far as restricting access to the "slow line" platforms (used by London Midland and Southern services) until just 5 minutes before the train departs. The line speed there is high and the platforms are very narrow. A very good idea, in my opinion, which could be expanded to other stations across the country.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: grahame on February 13, 2013, 10:00:45 At [snip] have gone as far as restricting access to the [snip] platforms until just 5 minutes before the train departs. A very good idea, in my opinion, which could be expanded to other stations across the country. Forgive my snipping, Brucey. It's probably a good idea at Wembley Central but I would be worried about it being extended too much. It's already done at Paddington at times, and (there) it results in an sea of people on the concourse, a stampede for the train with the elderly, infirm, those with heavy luggage and expectant left behind and unable to get seats which have all been grabbed by the athletic and fit passengers. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: bobm on February 13, 2013, 10:04:01 I agree it would need to be done on a station by station basis. At some there is nowhere to stand for a train other than on the platform. The alternatives being a subway or even outside the station itself.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: TerminalJunkie on February 13, 2013, 10:53:26 It's already done at Paddington at times, and (there) it results in an sea of people on the concourse If a train came through Paddington at high speed, it would probably be somewhat safer on the platforms rather than the concourse... Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Broadway - 10th February 2013 Post by: johoare on February 14, 2013, 00:32:24 It's already done at Paddington at times, and (there) it results in an sea of people on the concourse If a train came through Paddington at high speed, it would probably be somewhat safer on the platforms rather than the concourse... ;D Title: Person hit by a train at Ealing - 9 July 2014 Post by: Jason on July 09, 2014, 16:20:38 Incident occurred near Ealing Broadway ~14:00
All lines reopen as of ~16:00 Title: Person hit by a train - Ealing Broadway 30 Aug 14 Post by: bobm on August 30, 2014, 12:42:47 Reports of a person hit by a train at Ealing Broadway.
Thoughts with everyone involved. A lot of trains coming up from the West of England have been reported full and standing during the morning so a lot of people likely to be caught up in the disruption. Title: Re: Person hit by a train - Ealing Broadway 30 Aug 14 Post by: BBM on August 30, 2014, 14:51:06 Twitter user @AlanGurling has tweeted the following photo of the scene outside Ealing Broadway station at around 1300 today, there seems to be a lot of emergency services vehicles present:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwSQR5RCAAEsPkr.jpg) Also the following from Ealing Today: http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=eaebtrain002.htm (http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=eaebtrain002.htm) Quote A woman's been killed after being struck by an Oxford to Paddington train at Ealing Broadway this lunchtime. British Transport Police say: '' BTP officers were called to the line close to Ealing Broadway Railway station on Saturday 30th August after a report that a woman had been struck by a train. ''The incident was reported at 12.27 and is being treated as non suspicious. Medics pronounced the woman dead at the scene. A file will be prepared for the Coroner. The line will be handed back to Network Rail at 1400 Title: Person hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 07 Jan 15 Post by: bobm on January 07, 2015, 11:10:46 From getwestlondon (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/breaking-fatality-ealing-broadway-station-8396171)
Quote A man has sadly died after being struck by a train at Ealing Broadway station, British Transport Police (BTP) have confirmed. A witness, who wished to remain anonymous, said she heard a scream at about 9.10 this morning (January 7). A BTP spokesman said: ^Our officers were called to Ealing Broadway station just after 9am on Wednesday, January 7, after reports of a person being struck by a train. ^Colleagues from London Ambulance Service also attended, but a man was pronounced dead at the scene. ^Officers are now working to identify the man and inform his family. ^The incident is not being treated as suspicious and a file will be prepared for the coroner.^ Title: Re: Person hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 07 Jan 15 Post by: JayMac on January 07, 2015, 11:19:31 Thoughts as always go first and foremost to the driver and staff dealing with the incident.
Service involved was 1A07 0648 Weston-super-Mare to Paddington. Elsewhere reported that FGWs MD Mark Hopwood was on one of the services delayed in the area. I'm also on a heavily delayed service heading to Paddington. On board with us is FGWs head of PR Dan Panes. Title: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: bobm on June 23, 2015, 18:28:13 Reports that the 15:55 from Cardiff to London has hit two people at Ealing Broadway.
Thoughts with those involved and those who will inevitably be caught up in the resulting disruption out of London Paddington tonight. Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: TaplowGreen on June 23, 2015, 18:48:17 Two people? Good Lord what happened? Thoughts with all concerned.
Below just for info. Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington Due to a person hit by a train between Reading and London Paddington all lines are blocked. Impact: Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 60 mins. Disruption is expected until 20:00 23/06. Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: TRAINMAN57 on June 23, 2015, 19:27:16 Early reports seem too suggest woman and child(not confirmed) :'(
Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: tomL on June 23, 2015, 19:52:08 Early reports seem too suggest woman and child(not confirmed) :'( Frighteningly similar to a previous incident at Slough, if that is the case. :-[ :'( Confirmation on FGW Twitter: Quote Due to persons hit by train at Ealing, our tickets are being accepted on buses operated by @FirstBerkshire and @FirstBSA and @FirstWyvern. Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: chrisr_75 on June 23, 2015, 23:42:27 Early reports seem too suggest woman and child(not confirmed) :'( Frighteningly similar to a previous incident at Slough, if that is the case. :-[ :'( Confirmation on FGW Twitter: Quote Due to persons hit by train at Ealing, our tickets are being accepted on buses operated by @FirstBerkshire and @FirstBSA and @FirstWyvern. I suspect in due course it will emerge that circumstances/background will turn out to be very similar to that incident in Slough a little while ago and Hayes & Harlington a few more years back. Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 24, 2015, 00:04:44 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33250023):
Quote Two killed by train at Ealing Broadway Two people, one believed to be a child, died when they were struck by a train in west London. The pair were said to have fallen on to tracks at Ealing Broadway at 18:10 BST. Police, who have appealed for witnesses, said they were treating the deaths as "unexplained" and had yet to identify the victims. Heathrow Express services were suspended, while First Great Western said there were delays of up to 90 minutes to and from Paddington. British Transport Police said: "We were called at 6.10pm to Ealing Broadway station following reports that someone had been hit by a train. We attended along with the Metropolitan Police, London Ambulance Service and London Fire Brigade and discovered two people had been struck and killed by the train. We're still working to determine the identities of the deceased or how they came to actually be on the tracks." Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 24, 2015, 00:35:31 Just a gentle reminder that we should all resist the temptation to speculate about this latest very sad incident.
Thanks, Chris. :-X Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: JayMac on June 24, 2015, 06:28:09 Other news sources say the deceased were a woman and 16 year old girl.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ealing-broadway-woman-16-year-old-girl-5937721 Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: TaplowGreen on June 24, 2015, 15:14:01 This seems to be quite conclusive;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33250023 Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: Tim on June 24, 2015, 16:30:04 very sad. sympathy to all concerned including the driver and emergency response crew.
Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 26, 2015, 01:15:04 Indeed. :(
However, not everyone is so sensitive, apparently. From the Metro (http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/24/adult-and-child-killed-after-being-hit-by-train-during-rush-hour-5261870/): Quote Mother and daughter, 16, killed by rush-hour train in ^double suicide^ at Ealing Broadway A mother and her 16-year-old daughter have died after being hit by a train during rush hour in a suspected double suicide. Both are believed to have fallen onto the tracks in front of the train at Ealing Broadway, in west London, shortly after 6pm last night. Shortly after the incident, rail workers reportedly had to stop dozens of commuters taking photographs of their bodies. One witness ^ 26-year-old Lotti Strongman ^ described seeing people trying to take pictures from their phones as well as ^lots of shouting^. She told MailOnline: ^I was on my way home from work and as the train pulled into the station I could hear lots of shouting. ^I looked over at the overground side and I could see station staff were trying to move people away from a section that was cordoned off and there were people trying to take pictures of the bodies. ^I didn^t hear it myself, but apparently an announcement was made to tell people on the platform to stop taking pictures. It was terrible.^ Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: ChrisB on June 26, 2015, 10:07:37 that really doesn't surprise me. The General Public have some weird morals
Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: Timmer on June 26, 2015, 10:13:40 that really doesn't surprise me. The General Public have some weird morals Some have none whatsoever.Title: Re: Two people hit by a train - Ealing Broadway - 23 Jun 15 Post by: rower40 on June 26, 2015, 12:50:45 Other news sources say the deceased were a woman and 16 year old girl. Slightly off at a tangent...http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ealing-broadway-woman-16-year-old-girl-5937721 Why oh why oh why does the Mirror have to use the word "speeding" in their headline? Now replace "train" by "car" (i.e. a hypothetical incident, whose headline would be "Woman and 16-year-old girl killed by speeding car") and what picture does that conjure up? Title: Re: I hate First Great Western is not very happy at Ealing Broadway Post by: grahame on July 30, 2017, 13:25:11 See blog at http://ihatefirstgreatwestern.blogspot.com/2008/07/not-very-app-ealing.html "Bumping" a topic ... in my restoring of old databases, I came across this blog still online Quote Isn't Ealing Broadway station horrible? Specially late at night. No, actually, let me rephrase that. Aren't the drunk people at Ealing Broadway station horrible? Last night, after a late shift, I arrived on the tube to get my train to Slough just as the one I was hoping to catch was pulling away, so had to wait half an hour for the next one. This gave me plenty of time to think about station improvements, most noticeably that the dark and grubby nature of the platform I was standing on seemed to give the drunk people the idea that it was okay to gob on the floor, or generally be unpleasant and intimidating. I would like to see a bit more lighting and a bit more seating, perhaps a few more benches further down the platform for those who don't want to sit amongst the beered-up people who always want to talk to you for some reason, no matter how close to your face you put your book. There are times when I think I'd really like not to have to deal with people at all, especially drunk ones. The way they fill the train with litter and unmentionable stains must rile the poor cleaning staff who have to deal with it. It certainly riles me and I don't have to pick it up or wipe it up - eugh. Perhaps FGW should initiate a "night-status" carriage, which is entirely covered in the kind of plastic that sofas are wrapped in. Much easier to clean, and drunk people don't care where and what they sit on. Me, I'll bring a cushion. And a larger book. Title: Re: I hate First Great Western is not very happy at Ealing Broadway Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 30, 2017, 23:06:34 Cough, splutter! :o
Well done for finding that one, grahame - it must be amongst the earliest posts I made on the Coffee Shop forum - some nine years ago. ::) It's interesting to see how things have progressed though, isn't it? :-X CfN. ;D Title: Re: I hate First Great Western is not very happy at Ealing Broadway Post by: Ollie on July 31, 2017, 10:43:48 It's interesting to see how things have progressed though, isn't it? :-X Can't say in regard to the person who had this blog though, as unless there's an alternative link they've not done a blog post since July 18th 2008. Title: Person hit by train at Ealing Station, 29 Dec 2017 - not a fatality Post by: TaplowGreen on December 29, 2017, 08:13:53 Thoughts with all affected;
Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Slough Due to a person being hit by a train between London Paddington and Slough all lines are blocked. Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 10:00 29/12. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Station, 29 Dec 2017 - not a fatality Post by: Jason on December 29, 2017, 08:16:02 This happened around 07:20
From what I can see Paddington bound services are being held at Reading. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Station, 29 Dec 2017 - not a fatality Post by: TaplowGreen on December 29, 2017, 08:17:32 Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Slough
Due to a person being hit by a train between London Paddington and Slough all lines are blocked. Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 10:00 29/12. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Station, 29 Dec 2017 - not a fatality Post by: bobm on December 29, 2017, 08:22:04 Person reported to have survived and being treated by paramedics.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Station, 29 Dec 2017 - not a fatality Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 30, 2017, 01:22:23 Female reported to have jumped onto track in front of train and suffered facial injuries.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Ealing Station, 29 Dec 2017 - not a fatality Post by: TaplowGreen on December 30, 2017, 09:54:52 Female reported to have jumped onto track in front of train and suffered facial injuries. Sounds like a miraculous escape. Title: Chaos at Ealing Broadway - Every Day Post by: CJB666 on April 13, 2018, 05:09:49 One of the main campaigners in our area sent me this report after reading of the chaos at Hayes & Harlington yesterday. My additions in [].
<Quote> "As it happens, yesterday I went to a meeting, on another matter, with the Transport Minister at the Department for Transport. I used Hayes and Harlington station at lunchtime. It was no picnic but there was power. "On the return [in the rush hour], I got off the tube at Ealing Broadway and headed up the stairs at the ticket barrier end to get to the train on platform 3 to Hayes and Harlington only to be told to go all the way back down the stairs and then walk along the length of the platform [4] to the [new] bridge at the other end of the platform (2 steep flights of stairs) and then walk all the way back to the ticket barrier end of the platform. "There was a young man on the platform with a loud speaker telling people something about platforms but it was very hard to understand, hence we walked up the stairs. There were no visible signs, just lots of men in blue hi-viz blocking the walkway to platform 3. The lady with me had difficulty walking so they let us through (I didn’t mention the strapping on my own problem ankle). We missed a train, as did all those doing the mammoth walk. It was only after a conversation with a rather shy young man in hi-viz on platform 3 that we discovered that this farce is standard procedure during rush hour every day. (It was just after 5pm.) "While I understand that the intention was to prevent a surge of people coming onto the platform [3] at a point where the platform was narrowed by building works, there must be a better solution and certainly better signage and explanation. There also seemed to be no thought given to those passengers with mobility issues, such as the elderly. "We [also] decided to travel beyond Hayes and Harlington and get the bus home from West Drayton. "I am just grateful that I don’t have a daily commute. "Regards [XXXX]" </Quote> Title: Re: Chaos at Ealing Broadway - Every Day Post by: RichardB on April 13, 2018, 08:30:29 I use Ealing Broadway a fair bit and very much sympathise with the original poster. I can't see that there is any alternative to what is happening in the evening peak - the main footbridge is so relatively small for the sheer numbers using the station and that works-restricted area on platform 3 is positively tiny.
Looking at the Crossrail website, I see it'll be another eighteen months before the full works at Ealing Broadway are completed but, when they are, it'll be great. It'll be very good to see step free access to the platforms - there's not even step free access to the booking hall and gateline at the moment, of course. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/route/western-section/ealing-broadway-station Title: Re: Ealing Broadway - station facilities, access issues and many sad incidents (merged posts) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 26, 2024, 21:46:45 The topic heading now says it all, really. I found there were so many different topics relating to Ealing Broadway specifically (while I was searching for just one particular post), that I've merged them all here - in the interests of continuity and clarity, as ever.
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