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Title: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on September 29, 2009, 17:14:06
From BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8281025.stm)

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Three people in a car have been killed following a collision with a train at a level crossing in the Highlands.

The accident happened on Bridge Street, Halkirk, in Caithness, at just after 1400 BST.

Eighteen passengers and four staff on the train were not injured. British Transport Police (BTP) confirmed all three who died were in the car.

Scotrail said the 1038 BST passenger service from Inverness to Wick was involved.

The level crossing has warning lights, but no barriers.

BTP, Northern Constabulary and the Rail Accident Investigation Branch will launch a joint investigation at the scene.

A woman was seriously injured when her car was involved in a collision with a train at the same crossing in October 2002.

Raymond Bremner, who works close to the scene of the accident, said he could see a high level of police activity.

He said the crossing had a "reputation for accidents".

Mr Bremner added: "There have been to my knowledge three or four accidents in the past few years."

On its website, train operator Scotrail warned that cancellations and delays to further services on the line should be expected following the accident.



Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: readytostart on September 30, 2009, 02:29:27
To my knowledge this is an open crossing on a public road, with warning lights, no barriers however.



Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Super Guard on September 30, 2009, 14:37:26
So if it had been a set of traffic lights with red steady red light they'd have no doubt stopped, but because there are 2 red lights and they are flashing that must mean they should carry on?


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Tim on September 30, 2009, 15:54:31
So if it had been a set of traffic lights with red steady red light they'd have no doubt stopped, but because there are 2 red lights and they are flashing that must mean they should carry on?

Actually is there an arguement for making level crossing lights similar to normal traffic lights with which even the most stupid driver is familar?

I know people who jump any kind of red light are stupid, but I think that part of the reason that flashing level crossing lights  are ignored is that some ignorant people view them as a warning by analogy with other flashing lights you see on the road rather than a prohibition.  The message they convey to the iginorant is "be careful", "look out for trains", beware barriers about to come down" rather than "DO NOT CROSS".

Or would changing them just be pandering to idiots?


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: eightf48544 on September 30, 2009, 17:20:56
I was once told the reason why there are not steady red like traffic lights. It couldn't have been that memorable because I've forgotten what it was.

I've always thought like Tim.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: matt473 on September 30, 2009, 17:25:17
I wouldn't be surprised if it's something simple such as a flashing read light is easier to notice than a steady red light as flashing lights grab peoles attention more than steady lights


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on September 30, 2009, 17:33:16
Aren't we being a bit premature in our assumptions here. Three people have died and it is a little unfair on their memory to pre-judge the investigation and inquest into their deaths. Using words like 'stupid', 'ignorant' or 'idiots' is a tad offensive.

Along with driver error there are many possible reasons for this collision. Equipment failure, vehicle defect, driver incapacity, foul play.....


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: grahame on September 30, 2009, 17:57:28
Aren't we being a bit premature in our assumptions here. Three people have died and it is a little unfair on their memory to pre-judge the investigation and inquest into their deaths. Using words like 'stupid', 'ignorant' or 'idiots' is a tad offensive.

Yes, you're right. Statistically, level crossing collisions are more likely to be driver error than anything else, but there are often specific local circumstances.   I note from the news reports that the locals had said 'always was a dangerous crossing', and Halkirk where it happened is a very odd mix.   You have a village that's just about the only population centre for miles, a railway line with stations every few miles at places like Altnabraec (222 journeys per annum) and Forsinard ... yet there isn't a station at this crossing at Halkirk, which is actually the railway's nearest point to that only population centre.   The next stop is at Georgemas, a couple of miles away.  The landscape is, for Scotland very flat in Caithness.

So putting the scene together,  and looking at Google Earth, you have houses and smallholdings scattered around an area, and a railway with occasional trains zipping past.  The road is straight and the only road for miles; I don't know about visibility at the crossing or whether it's obscured by buildings.   We don't know what happened, but we do know there are some extremes. Let's wait and see what the outcome of enquiries says.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Hafren on September 30, 2009, 18:55:23
I was once told the reason why there are not steady red like traffic lights. It couldn't have been that memorable because I've forgotten what it was.

I don't know if this is "the" reason, but AIUI emergency vehicles can't pass flashing reds. Obviously at normal traffic lights the traffic would stop for blue lights, but a train might find that a bit difficult, so the flashing indicates that added danger.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 30, 2009, 21:20:55
Quite right, hafren.  ;)

See http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/information/bluelightuse.htm#Blue_Light_Exemptions:

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Blue Light Exemptions

While using blue lights, drivers are exempt from a number of motoring regulations, including

- treating a red traffic light as a give way sign
- passing to the wrong side of a keep left bollard
- driving on a motorway hard shoulder (even against the direction of traffic)
- disobeying the speed limit (police, fire and ambulance services only)

However, they are not allowed to

- ignore a 'no entry' sign
- ignore a 'stop' or 'give way' sign
- drive the wrong way down a one-way street
- ignore flashing signs at level crossings or fire stations
- cross a solid white line down the middle of the road ... .


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Tim on October 01, 2009, 10:31:19
Using words like 'stupid', 'ignorant' or 'idiots' is a tad offensive.
Sorry.  My comments were not aimed at the latest victims but were general comments about level crossing safety.

In general terms there is almost always at least an element of driver error or stupidity, but the acident happens when that error or stupidity inteacts with the specific circumstances and design of the crossing.  This means that although most acidents are not the "fault" of the crossing, there are almost always lessens to be learnt by NR and sometimes things that could be improved.

An exploration of driver phychology can help improve crossing safety, and I think that my comment about flashing lights sending out confusing signals to a minority of drivers is a valid one.   

(changing the subject completely, my other safety-related bee-in-my-bonnet, relates to aircraft seatbelts.  Why does the seatbelt release buckle differ in design from the push buttons you get on cars?  I would not be surprised at all if people's escape from aircraft crashes have been delayed by confused, injured and perhaps even "stupid" passengers who might be sitting in a dark smoke-filled cabbin, instinctively pressing the buckle with their thumb rather than pulling it to open?



Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: readytostart on October 01, 2009, 11:29:19
I was once told the reason why there are not steady red like traffic lights. It couldn't have been that memorable because I've forgotten what it was.

I've always thought like Tim.

Could be in case one of the bulbs has blown. As the lights normal state is unlit, if a bulb blew it would look like it was safe to cross with only a single bulb.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Tim on October 01, 2009, 13:49:00
I was once told the reason why there are not steady red like traffic lights. It couldn't have been that memorable because I've forgotten what it was.

I've always thought like Tim.

Could be in case one of the bulbs has blown. As the lights normal state is unlit, if a bulb blew it would look like it was safe to cross with only a single bulb.

Ah, but if you had green lights too and lights at both sides of the road


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 01, 2009, 14:14:58
There's a good picture of the Halkirk level crossing (showing the signs and lights) in the latest item from the BBC on this sad incident: see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8285063.stm


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: grahame on October 01, 2009, 15:00:09
Three other level crossing references for the same line

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/Highlands_and_islands/8190259.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8117407.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/7625223.stm

One mentions "European Level Crossing Awareness Day" of which, I confess, I was not aware.
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.9742
http://www.erscharter.eu/news/14724
And have you come across
http://www.levelcrossing.net/

What IS the best way to reach people?


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Tim on October 01, 2009, 15:46:22

What IS the best way to reach people?


I think that the best action may be to remove the driving licences from those who misuse crossings.

As to what NR can do, they already have their comendable "don't run teh risk" campaign. 

Should they install barriers at crossings like the one at Halkirk?  If people don't observe the lights (and of course we don't know if lights were ignored at Halkirk yet) perhaps they should.  Maybe there are low cost alternatives to barriers that could be considered
(I'm thinking of teh kind of barriers and bollards that are used to control access to car parks and presumably can be purcahsed off the shelf fairly cheaply)


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 01, 2009, 18:32:18
From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8285063.stm):

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Rail crossing crash victims named

Three people killed in a collision between their car and a train at a railway level crossing have been named by British Transport Police.

Angus MacKay and his wife Margaret, both 81, from Inverness, and Mr MacKay's brother Donald, 66, of Latheron, died in Tuesday's accident. It happened at an unmanned, gate-free level crossing in Halkirk, Caithness.

The Scottish transport minister is to meet rail bosses to see if crossing safety measures need to be improved.

Angus MacKay had been driving the Nissan Almera when it was struck by the train, with his brother in the front passenger seat and Mrs MacKay in the back.

Angus and Margaret MacKay's son, also Donald, said: "We will always remember them and they will always be in our hearts and they will be deeply missed."

Police said there did not appear to be any suspicious circumstances surrounding their deaths.

The victims' names were released just hours after MSPs were told that Transport Minister Stewart Stevenson would hold talks with Network Rail on the issue.

The Liberal Democrats urged ministers to ensure action was taken urgently.

The accident, on Bridge Street in Halkirk, has already prompted a local politician to call for the installation of safety barriers at a cost of about ^1m each.

The type of crossing at the crash scene, which uses flashing lights to warn of an approaching train, is common across rural Scotland.

During question time at Holyrood, Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Tavish Scott urged the transport minister to pull together all the various groups involved in rail safety. He said: "Is it not time to cut through the morass of rail bureaucracy that gets in the way? Network Rail have risk assessors, the local highway authority has responsibility, as does Transport Scotland, the rail regulator, the rail inspectorate, the Health and Safety Executive, the police and even the Scottish Law Commission."

Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, standing in for Alex Salmond, welcomed Mr Scott's suggestion. She added that Mr Stevenson would explore with Network Rail "whether there are further improvements they can and should be making" at crossings where there had been serious accidents. She pointed out rail safety was reserved to Westminster, but added: "I'm sure there is not a single person in this chamber who doesn't want to make sure we're doing everything possible to minimise for the future the chance of such an appalling accident happening again."

Investigations into the Caithness accident are continuing.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on October 01, 2009, 18:50:18
Yet again the subject of safety at level crossings is laid firmly at the door of the rail industry, with just a passing mention of the local highway authority in this story.

If there is a safety problem with the way car drivers or pedestrians use a particular crossing then that problem should be addressed and funded from the local road transport budget.

Level crossings are not inherently dangerous, the worst that can be said is that they are an operational inconvenience. I'm not aware of any rail accidents at level crossings where a road vehicle or pedestrian wasn't involved.

If local people want barriers at this crossing then funding for them should come from local budgets, not from Network Rail.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Mookiemoo on October 01, 2009, 18:57:25
You see I prefer it when those killed this way are teenagers - at least they take themselves out of the gene pool before they (hopefully) have a chance to reproduce.

In this case, the dodderies have already passed on their lack of common sense.

1. Level crossings are signposted
2. Trains are great big things that move along those rails at the crossing - even is you miss the signpost, for the love of god you should be able to see the tracks and if you cant your eyesight is clearly not up to being in control of a vehicle
3. If you are on top of the train tracks before you see them, you are driving too fast for the road.
4. Trains have lots of momentum, dont stop easy and if they hit you, you will come off worse
5. slow down on approach and check there isnt a bleddy train coming before proceeding - even if it is a barriered crossing (just in case) and especially if you are on a minor road in the middle of bleddy no where

I am one of the most kamikaze drivers around when running late but, even at the onibury crossing on the A49, I always follow the above - I dont want to become lubricant for some trains wheels.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on October 01, 2009, 19:10:43

In this case, the dodderies have already passed on their lack of common sense.


I refer you to my earlier post about pre-judging the investigation and inquest into the collision.

Whilst foul play has apparently been ruled out by the police, that still leaves many other possible reasons for the collision. Just because one reason ("lack of common sense") seems the most plausible, it doesn't mean it's right. That's why we have investigations and inquests.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Tim on October 02, 2009, 09:43:59
[quote author=bignosemac link=topic=5409.msg51548#msg51548 date=1254419418

If local people want barriers at this crossing then funding for them should come from local budgets, not from Network Rail.
[/quote]

I agree in principle, but remember that the rail industry does have a legal and moral responsibility to passengers and crew who can be injured by level crossing misuse (even if serious injury is rare to those onboard a train, it is not unknown and you shouldn't forget the mental injury these accidents can cause especially to train drivers involved).   

Ideally NR should have the power to close dangerous crossings for the cost of a couple of signs and padlocks, and then the buck passes ro the highway authority to replace them with a bridge if they want the road reopened. 


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Tim on October 02, 2009, 12:05:29
See

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8286164.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8286164.stm)

for an interesting new development.  A NR employee (who is nothing to do with crossings) staying that ungated scottish crossings are dangerous.

Me thinks either: 1) he is right and the crossings are dangerous, or 2) he is wrong and his driving is dangerous.

Either way NR ought to do something - sort out the dangerous crossing or give this man a job that doesn't involve him driving round the country. 

Also a suggestion that the lights don't flash if batteries are dead?  surely the crossing should be more failsafe than that (trains cautioned until batteries fixed or staff get to the scene?


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 14, 2009, 00:05:23
With the benefit of hindsight, I should have started a new topic, when I posted here about the RAIB report on the Wraysholme level crossing incident.

To correct this, I have now split this topic, and that other discussion is now at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5503.0

Sorry.  Chris  :-[


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 14, 2009, 22:32:44
From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8306285.stm):

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Trains 'could slow' for crossings

Train drivers are being advised by their union to reduce speeds at railway level crossings following the deaths of three people at a site in Caithness. The executive of railway workers' union Aslef has agreed to urge member to slow to 20mph and called for all Scotland's crossing to have barriers.

Angus MacKay and his wife Margaret and Mr MacKay's brother Donald were killed in an accident last month. Their car was hit by a train at a gate-free level crossing in Halkirk.

Funerals for the couple, who were both 81 and from Inverness, and 66-year-old Mr Mackay, of Latheron, were held in Wick last week.

Ahead of the national executive's meeting on the issue, Aslef's Scottish organiser Kevin Lindsay said the crash had been the "catalyst" for the discussions on lowering speeds at crossings. He said: "Drivers who are involved in these horrific incidents have to live with the consequences for the rest of their days. There should be no more deaths on Scotland's railways at these level crossings. We are looking to reduce the risk of that."

ScotRail said it was waiting for the outcome of the meeting with interest. A spokesman said the railway company worked with all its industry partners to ensure the safety of customers and staff.

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch's preliminary examination at Halkirk has indicated the warning lights at the crossing were working and the train was driven correctly.

However, it has decided to widen its inquiry to include not just what happened at Halkirk but to review the general risk posed by unmanned, gate-free crossings.

It said open automatic crossings of the kind used at Halkirk made up just 2% of Network Rail's total level crossings. But in the past 10 years, 31% of level crossing collisions have taken place at them.

The widening of the inquiry has been welcomed by Highlands and Islands SNP MSP Dave Thompson. He said the high number of collisions on this type of crossing indicated something was not right with their design.

The union meeting also comes in the wake of four people - one a bus driver - being accused of failing to comply with railway level crossings signals during a British Transport Police operation. Police said the driver of a local passenger service would be reported to the procurator fiscal in connection with the offence at Cleghorn level crossing in Lanarkshire. Two other motorists will also be served with notices after allegedly failing to stop at the same crossing.

In another incident, a 56-year-old man will be reported to the procurator fiscal for not following the proper procedures at Charleston level crossing in Perthshire.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 23, 2010, 19:33:57
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch have now published their full report (http://www.raib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/100923_R162010_Halkirk.pdf) on this sad incident, on their website:

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Summary

On 29 September 2009 a collision occurred between a train and a car at the level crossing, at Halkirk, Caithness, resulting in fatal injuries to the three occupants of the car. There were no injuries to anybody on the train which was not derailed.

The most likely cause was that the car driver did not see and react to the flashing road traffic light signals because his eyesight was sub-standard.

An underlying factor was that Network Rail did not properly understand the risk at Halkirk level crossing because it had not taken the previous accident record into account. Had it done so, the level of risk might have justified more costly risk reduction measures, and risk reduction measures that had been identified might have been implemented more quickly and before the accident occurred.

The RAIB has made six recommendations to Network Rail which include the risk assessment of the level crossing and the maintenance of the backboards of the road traffic light signals.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on September 23, 2010, 20:56:45
May I just point out that I obviously got the date wrong in the title of the OP.  :-[

I've changed it in the original post to 2009, but I'm not going to edit all subsequent posts.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 23, 2010, 21:43:50
No: sorry, that was me - a momentary inattention to detail, updating the headings.  I've corrected them all now.

CfN.  :-[ :P ::)


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on September 23, 2010, 22:03:22
From ASLEF (http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/100012/120207/union_slams_halkirk_crossing_report/):

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Union slams Halkirk crossing report

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) has released its report into a fatal accident at Halkirk level crossing, Caithness, on 29 September 2009- and ASLEF has reacted angrily to it finding that ^Network Rail did not properly understand the risk at Halkirk crossing and had not taken the previous accident record into account^.

^This amounts to irresponsibility verging on the criminal, and ignorance bordering on the insane,^ Keith Norman, general secretary of train driver's union ASLEF said. ^It baffles me that anyone associated with the industry can fail to recognise the risks involved at level crossings, where one person a month has died for decades. Level crossings kill. Unmanned ones kill regularly. What is there not to understand?^

He added that, ^Every time there is an accident on an unmanned level crossing ^a deeply distasteful game of pass-the-parcel of guilt begins^.

^This report recommends a risk assessment of the crossing. I can save them a lot of trouble. They are all inherently unsafe. That is why we advise our members to slow down their trains when they approach them.

^What really maddens me is that we know the solutions: they are tunnels, bridges and in-cab technology to enable a driver to look further up the track than the eye can see.

^They are all available. But no one will put up the money to stop the carnage.^


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: John R on August 07, 2012, 19:01:06
NR have announced that following a trial of a new cheaper half barrier system, 23 open crossings in Scotland are going to be converted to AHB. Apparently the new design has brought the cost down from 500k per installation to around 100k, so much more economic.

A couple of questions - firstly why is this particularly a Scottish issue? Surely there are numerous open crossings elsewhere, although it appears more emotive north of the border, possibly because of a couple of high profile incidents.

Secondly, does this offer an opportunity to improve cost effective journey times on rural lines which are subject to heavy speed restrictions at open crossings? I'm particularly thinking of a recent trip on the Central Wales line where there appeared to be quite a few such crossings, but would it have any benefit for some of the south west branches? I would imagine each crossing could knock up to a minute off journey times.     


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on August 07, 2012, 19:11:08
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19162463):

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Network Rail to upgrade open Scottish level crossings

All railway level crossings in Scotland are to get safety barriers, Network Rail have confirmed.

It follows the successful completion of a pilot scheme testing new mini barriers at a level crossing in Ardrossan in Ayrshire.

The first places to get them are all in the Highlands. They are Corpach, Brora, Kirkton and Dalchalm.

There are 23 open level crossings in Scotland, most of them in the Highlands.

Network Rail also said that a half-length barrier would be put in place at Halkirk in Caithness.

^4m Upgrade

It was the scene of a crash between a car and a train that killed three elderly members of the same family in September 2009.

Network rail is to spend ^4m on upgrading the crossings and expects to have completed the improvements by 2014.

The new barriers can be installed for about ^100,000 a crossing, compared to an average of more than ^500,000 under the old system.

David Simpson, Network Rail route managing director for Scotland, said: "The trial of this new system on single line railway at Ardrossan has been a fantastic success. We have developed and successfully tested an affordable, innovative system that will improve the safety of open level crossings."

Dave Thompson, SNP MSP for Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch, has been a vocal supporter of the new system.
Welcome announcement

He said: "I was delighted to see the successful completion of the new AOCL+B level crossing system at Ardrossan. I welcome the announcement that four Highland crossings will now be upgraded forthwith. These four barrier implementations on open Highland crossings are the initial first tranche of a roll-out to all the open crossings that remain in the Highlands."

He called the move a "major step forward" in road and rail safety.

Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment, Alex Neil, said: "Railway safety, including at level crossings, remains reserved to Westminster. However, to demonstrate our commitment, the Scottish government earlier this year announced an additional ^10m fund to help facilitate the closure of level crossings and I will continue to liaise with Network Rail on these issues."




Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 16, 2013, 23:03:47
From the John O'Groat Journal (http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/News/Network-Rail-rapped-over-crossing-barrier-delay-15022013.htm?):

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Network Rail rapped over Halkirk crossing barrier delay

Network Rail has been heavily criticised for not given enough priority to installing safety barriers at the Caithness village level crossing where three people lost their lives.

Former Caithness Highland Councillor David Flear claims Halkirk should have been the first on the list of the 20 crossings which are to have new safety barriers erected in the Highlands.

The ^4 million project was brought forward after the tragic death of pensioners Angus Mackay (81) his wife Margaret (81) and Angus^s brother Donnie Mackay (66), from Latheron, who were killed when their car was struck by a train at the rail crossing at Halkirk in September 2009. The accident happened when the car collided with a Sprinter train at the unmanned crossing on Bridge Street which had warning lights but no barriers.
Donald Mackay, a son of the couple, is currently pursuing a personal injury action against Network Rail.

The first stubby type barriers were installed this week at Corpach, near Caol in Lochaber, with three barriers also set to be installed iat crossings near Golspie and Brora.

Mr Flear said that given the tragic accident involving the Mackays, Network Rail should have made installing barriers at Halkirk its first priority. "You would have thought as the Mackay deaths stimulated the whole issue that Halkirk would have been the first location to have these barriers to be installed," said Mr Flear, who lives in Halkirk. "I am surprised that it is not the first on the list as the tragedy happened up here and it did accelerate the campaign to have barriers erected at these crossings. Given the history, I thought that it would be logical that this would be the location where there would be the greatest need to get it done right away."

Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch MSP Dave Thompson has campaigned for barriers to be introduced throughout the Highlands since 2007. He yesterday said his understanding is that Halkirk was not the first location as the barriers being installed at Caol and the Sutherland crossings are not suitable for Caithness.

Network Rail, he said, had confirmed to him that suitable barriers will be installed at the Caithness crossing by next year. "Halkirk will be getting the full-size traditional barriers as the stubby barrier would not be suitable for the crossing," he said. "The full-size barriers, I understand, take a lot longer to prepare. They will enable the train to go through at high speed whereas the stubby barriers force the train to slow down as it passes. Despite not being the first place to have them installed, Halkirk in the long term will receive a better standard of barriers, but the stubby barriers are a huge improvement on what exists in the Highland at the moment. The planning process has already started for the barriers to be installed in Halkirk and should be in place by 2014."

A successful trial of the specially designed barriers at Ardrossan between April and July led to a decision to commission them in the Highlands over the next two years, it is believed Halkirk is the only Caithness crossing included in the list of 20 sites.

Network Rail were asked to comment but at the time of going to press had not responded.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: DavidBrown on February 17, 2013, 09:08:47
A couple of questions - firstly why is this particularly a Scottish issue? Surely there are numerous open crossings elsewhere, although it appears more emotive north of the border, possibly because of a couple of high profile incidents.     

Replying to an old post, I know, but a good number of open crossings in Scotland cross A-roads, albeit rural single-track roads, but A-roads nonetheless. In England, most open crossings are on quiet lines with quiet roads which might see one man and his dog use it in a day, so there seems to be less of a risk here.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: John R on February 17, 2013, 15:27:11
David

That's an interesting thought. Though I notice that the one in question at Halkirk is on a white road.

I notice that the son of the deceased is pursuing a claim against Network Rail. I think the following from the RAIB Report are interesting comments that I suspect will be key to whether his claim is successful.

The expert^s review of the car driver^s eyesight records concluded that, on the
balance of probabilities, the car driver^s eyesight did not meet the standard set by
the Driver Vehicle and Licensing Authority14. The evidence also indicated that he did
not have distance spectacles to correct this so he would not have been able to see
the road traffic light signals at the crossing as well as a person with vision that meets
the standard.
66 The car driver had been advised to obtain distance spectacles at an eyesight
examination in 2006, and then subsequently in 2009. The RAIB has concluded that
he did not do so but has been unable to establish why not.
67 His impaired eyesight would have significantly affected the car driver^s ability to
determine a hazard such as a level crossing in front of him. He was also susceptible
to glare (difficulty seeing in the presence of a bright light) and could have been
affected in this way by the sunlight reflected from the backboards (paragraph 18).
68 The expert^s view was that the car driver^s impaired eyesight would have resulted
in him being unable to read the signs warning of the approach to the level crossing
until at a third of the distance that a person with vision that meets the required
standard could read them.
69 The car driver^s impaired eyesight would have dulled the effect of the flashing road
traffic light signal; associated glare would have masked the flashing to some extent
and the uncorrected optical error would have blurred the lights, effectively reducing
the amount of light at the retina of the eye. It was not possible to determine the
exact effects of each of these.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Rhydgaled on February 19, 2013, 20:34:05
Secondly, does this offer an opportunity to improve cost effective journey times on rural lines which are subject to heavy speed restrictions at open crossings? I'm particularly thinking of a recent trip on the Central Wales line where there appeared to be quite a few such crossings, but would it have any benefit for some of the south west branches? I would imagine each crossing could knock up to a minute off journey times.
South-west Wales or south-west England? In south-west Wales, there are some open crossings on the Pembroke Dock branch. Some say you could save enough time to allow an hourly service if they weren't open crossings, but I don't know. As for the Central Wales (assuming you mean HOWL), there are also rather a lot of very minor stations. I'd be interested to know how much faster it would be with only main stations served and open-crossings dealt with (I don't suggest closing the smaller stations, just that any extra services above the current 4 per day should skip some of them).


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: John R on February 19, 2013, 20:58:07
I was thinking about SW England, but could also be applied to West Wales. 

And I'm afraid I'm old enough to remember when it was commonly known as the Central Wales Line, before they thought up the rather more attractive sounding HoWL. Though Quail Track Diagrams seems to imply that CWL is still used within the railway.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Rhydgaled on February 21, 2013, 21:42:52
I was thinking about SW England, but could also be applied to West Wales. 

And I'm afraid I'm old enough to remember when it was commonly known as the Central Wales Line, before they thought up the rather more attractive sounding HoWL. Though Quail Track Diagrams seems to imply that CWL is still used within the railway.
I had a feeling that 'Central Wales Line' was the official name for it, at least at one point. The trobble with 'Central Wales Line' is that it has the potential to be confused with 'Mid Wales Line', which I think refers to part of the demolished north-south route between Merthyr Tydfil and Moat Lane Junction (near Caersws/Newtown).


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: John R on February 21, 2013, 21:47:32
Maybe "had the potential". I don't think there will be much confusion nowadays with a route that ceased to exist 50 years ago.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 07, 2013, 02:21:54
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-21657128?):

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Halkirk level crossing deaths: Victims' son awarded compensation

A man whose parents were killed in an accident at a railway level crossing in Caithness has been awarded tens of thousands of pounds in compensation.

Angus MacKay and his wife Margaret, both 81, from Inverness, and Mr MacKay's brother Donald, 66, of Latheron, died in the 2009 incident.

The MacKays' car collided with a train at an unmanned, gate-free crossing.

Donald MacKay sued Network Rail over alleged safety issues. The two parties reached an out-of-court settlement.

The exact figure which has been awarded to Mr MacKay, 51, from Inverness, has not been disclosed.

He told BBC Scotland that safety measures, such as barriers, at the crossing could have saved the lives of his parents and uncle.

A Network Rail spokesman said: "We have settled a legal action regarding the Halkirk incident, but it would not be appropriate to discuss the details with a third party."

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) published a report following the incident.

It said Network Rail "did not properly understand the risk" at the site because it had not taken a record of four previous accidents - one of them fatal - into account.

The RAIB said: "Had it done so, the level of risk might have justified more costly risk reduction measures, and risk reduction measures that had been identified might have been implemented more quickly and before the accident occurred."

Six recommendations were made on improving safety at the site.

However, the RAIB also said Mr MacKay may not have seen, or had misinterpreted, the warning lights at the level crossing and appeared not to have been wearing glasses to improve his distance vision.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: JayMac on March 07, 2013, 04:12:00
I suspect that the compensatory award is in some way related to the criticism of Network Rail in the RAIB's official report.

Some failings on Network Rail's part were identified. However the fact remains that the car driver did not react to the correctly functioning warning lights and drove onto the crossing. It was also subsequently identified that the car driver's eyesight was below the standard set by the DVLA and he wasn't using corrective spectacles/contact lenses to meet DVLA requirements for a road vehicle license holder. On two occasions prior to the incident the driver had been advised to obtain distance spectacles. The car driver's poor eyesight was the first identified (and in my opinion, main) factor in the collision, according to the RAIB report.

The backboards for the warning lights were found to be in poor condition. However, the RAIB stated that this would only give rise to glare in a road vehicle driven by someone with sub-standard eyesight. The report cast some doubt on the significance of the the purported poor condition of the backboards. 

The RAIB stated:

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...it is likely that the car driver^s sub-standard eyesight was the most significant factor.

Selectively quoted on my part, but I don't think it is out of context. Underlying factors were laid at the door of Network Rail, but I, speaking personally as a layman, am somewhat surprised that Network Rail have paid out 'tens of thousands of pounds' in compensation to the family of the deceased.

That said, there is no mention of liability in this out of court settlement. I just worry that there might be an uneasy precedent being set here. The DVLA need to bear a large part of the blame for allowing someone to continue driving with sub-standard eyesight. More rigorous checks and balances need to be in place when it comes to eyesight requirements for holding a driving license. Whilst it may be outside the remit of the RAIB to question DVLA policy and sanctions, I personally feel it is something they should have pursued further. It is very likely that this incident would never have occurred if the car driver's vision wasn't below the standard required to hold a driving license.


Title: Re: Three dead in level crossing collision at Halkirk, Caithness - discussion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 14, 2013, 23:32:22
From the Scotsman (http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/network-rail-urged-to-fight-legal-claims-1-2894406?):

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Network Rail urged to fight legal claims

Network Rail has been urged to fight legal action over motorists being killed or injured by jumping red lights at level crossings after it emerged the firm has made out-of-court settlements to save money.

In the latest incident, a relative of three pensioners killed when a train hit their car in Caithness has received a ^substantial^ sum, believed to be tens of thousands of pounds. The payout by Network Rail came despite an official report into the 2009 crash stating its most likely cause was the car driver^s poor eyesight.

Angus MacKay, 81, died along with his wife Margaret, 81, and his brother Donald, 66, when their Nissan Almera was hit by an Inverness-Wick train at the barrier-less crossing.

The UK Department for Transport^s rail accident investigation branch (Raib) report into the incident stated: ^The most likely cause was the car driver did not see and react to the flashing road traffic light signals because his eyesight was sub-standard.^

MacKay^s eyesight had not been up to driving test standard, despite him being twice advised to get suitable glasses. His son, Donald, sued Network Rail over alleged safety failings. Last year, the Crown Office said MacKay ^may bear some responsibility for the collision^.

In a previous case, also involving the Halkirk crossing, a woman received a similar payout after being seriously injured when her car was hit by a train in 2002. An investigation found Sarah Jappy had driven through the red light.

Jappy, who was pregnant, was in a coma for three months after suffering multiple fractures having been thrown through the sun roof of her car. She survived and gave birth to a healthy baby. She raised a ^500,000 legal action against Network Rail, arguing the crossing lights were difficult to see and there was no barrier.

Last year, Network Rail announced it would install barriers at all 23 such open crossings in Scotland.

In both legal cases, Network Rail made the payments without accepting liability. The firm said the cases had been settled as a ^pragmatic^ decision because of the likely legal costs involved. Those bringing the cases are believed to have on legal aid.

However, rail experts said the move sent out the wrong message about level crossing safety and called on Network Rail to stand its ground.

Richard Hope, consulting editor of Railway Gazette, said: ^As a matter of principle, they [Network Rail] should stick it out. It^s a bit weak-kneed. It will encourage other people to try it on.^

Rail author Christian Wolmar said: ^Network Rail should take a deep breath and defend their position, even if the other side are legally aided. Otherwise they are suggesting they are in the wrong. It is, after all, public money which funds most of their work, and by caving in they are wasting money that could be spent on improving the railways.^

Stan Hall, a former head of level crossing safety for British Rail, said: ^This is a new trend and I absolutely hate it. It^s a compensation culture and Network Rail is suffering for it.^

However, Hall said Network Rail might have feared lawyers seeking to exploit any level crossing deficiencies referred to in investigation reports.

The Raib report into the 2009 crash said an underlying factor had been that Network Rail ^did not properly understand the risk^ at the crossing because it had not taken the previous accident record - of four crashes since 1987 - into account. The report said if it had done, ^the level of risk might have justified more costly risk reduction measures^, such as barriers, which might have been implemented before the crash.

Aslef, the main train drivers union, expressed anger that its members were the ^unrecognised victims^ by no longer being eligible for compensation from such incidents.

General secretary Mick Whelan said: ^It is appalling that while Network Rail compensates relatives of people killed at crossings, the [UK] Government now refuses any compensation to train drivers who are traumatised by these incidents. The government has now declared train drivers to be ineligible, removing a provision which cost little and mattered much.^

Lawyer Cameron Fyfe, who represented the victims and their families in both cases, said he had been surprised Network Rail had made an offer so quickly in the MacKay case. He said he thought this was because of the earlier case, involving Sarah Jappy, in which the settlement had been reached after a series of court hearings.

Fyfe said: ^Network Rail made an offer after nine tenths of the expenses involved had been incurred.^ He added that it was usual for settlements not to include admissions of liability to avoid setting precedents.

A Network Rail spokesman said: ^We have settled a legal action regarding the [2009] Halkirk incident, but it would not be appropriate to discuss the details with a third party.^



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