Title: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: paul7575 on September 24, 2009, 11:54:02 http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/London-train-cuts-defended/article-1365385-detail/article.html (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/London-train-cuts-defended/article-1365385-detail/article.html)
This caught my eye, and yet again we see the local newspaper implying that SWT's service reductions beyond Exeter are somehow discretionary. Why don't SWT just state the obvious, that the decision was made in 2006 by the DfT? A cursory glance through the franchise spec shows that Paignton has been on borrowed time pending the Axminster work, and the Exeter hourly improvements. Further, the paper reckons that... ""No details are yet known of what substitute services are going to be provided as replacements from December 12." Presumably checking with FGW or an online journey planner would find that there are some additional FGW services via Taunton etc - the second local hauled service springs to mind for instance? Paul Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: vacman on September 24, 2009, 18:20:34 I like the way they moan about all the caravans at Dawlish warren losing services, oh wait, lets scrap all the extra London trains and Axminster loop just so we can carry all the Sun 9.99 holiday makers from Dawlish Warren to Dawlish for 1.10 each! Anyway, there won't be any less services coz FGW are covering them!
Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: inspector_blakey on September 24, 2009, 19:04:07 Shoddy local journalism at its best/worst. Something tells me that the holidaying occupants of those 1000 or more caravans aren't going to be too upset about the reduction in frequency of a plodding (albeit direct) service to Waterloo...
Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: devon_metro on September 24, 2009, 19:07:53 Can't expect much better from the Herald Express, I did have a chuckle to myself when reading this morning.
However let us not sidetrack from the fact that these very useful services are being lost. They are well used and provide a useful link to east Devon. Also, its nice to travel in a civilised manner instead of crammed into a bus wanna-be! Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: Btline on September 24, 2009, 19:08:47 DO many people use the SWT all the way to London? Yes if you're on a budget and not in a hurry.
Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: devon_metro on September 24, 2009, 19:12:50 DO many people use the SWT all the way to London? Yes if you're on a budget and not in a hurry. From Honiton eastwards, yes, but many people use the trains from Salisbury to the coast for example. Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: JayMac on September 24, 2009, 19:29:02 What news on some of the ex-SWT services being replace by FGW with locos and MkIIs? I for one would be happy to bash down to Paignton from Exeter in a MkII rather than a SWT 158/9 or FGW dmu.
Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal Post by: paul7575 on September 24, 2009, 19:54:51 I think part of the second LHCS diagram replaces the morning SWT service:
Cardiff 0800 Bristol TM 0855 Taunton 1002 Exeter SD 1035 Paignton 1127 Paignton 1247 Exeter SD 1333 Taunton 1409 Bristol TM 1521 Cardiff 1629 But when I had a quick check I didn't think the afternoon SWT was covered... Paul This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |