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Journey by Journey => Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South => Topic started by: paul7575 on September 24, 2009, 11:54:02



Title: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: paul7575 on September 24, 2009, 11:54:02
http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/London-train-cuts-defended/article-1365385-detail/article.html (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/London-train-cuts-defended/article-1365385-detail/article.html)

This caught my eye, and yet again we see the local newspaper implying that SWT's service reductions beyond Exeter are somehow discretionary. Why don't SWT just state the obvious, that the decision was made in 2006 by the DfT? A cursory glance through the franchise spec shows that Paignton has been on borrowed time pending the Axminster work, and the Exeter hourly improvements.

Further, the paper reckons that... ""No details are yet known of what substitute services are going to be provided as replacements from December 12."

Presumably checking with FGW or an online journey planner would find that there are some additional FGW services via Taunton etc - the second local hauled service springs to mind for instance?

Paul


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: vacman on September 24, 2009, 18:20:34
I like the way they moan about all the caravans at Dawlish warren losing services, oh wait, lets scrap all the extra London trains and Axminster loop just so we can carry all the Sun 9.99 holiday makers from Dawlish Warren to Dawlish for 1.10 each! Anyway, there won't be any less services coz FGW are covering them!


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: inspector_blakey on September 24, 2009, 19:04:07
Shoddy local journalism at its best/worst. Something tells me that the holidaying occupants of those 1000 or more caravans aren't going to be too upset about the reduction in frequency of a plodding (albeit direct) service to Waterloo...


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: devon_metro on September 24, 2009, 19:07:53
Can't expect much better from the Herald Express, I did have a chuckle to myself when reading this morning.

However let us not sidetrack from the fact that these very useful services are being lost. They are well used and provide a useful link to east Devon. Also, its nice to travel in a civilised manner instead of crammed into a bus wanna-be!


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: Btline on September 24, 2009, 19:08:47
DO many people use the SWT all the way to London? Yes if you're on a budget and not in a hurry.


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: devon_metro on September 24, 2009, 19:12:50
DO many people use the SWT all the way to London? Yes if you're on a budget and not in a hurry.

From Honiton eastwards, yes, but many people use the trains from Salisbury to the coast for example.


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: JayMac on September 24, 2009, 19:29:02
What news on some of the ex-SWT services being replace by FGW with locos and MkIIs? I for one would be happy to bash down to Paignton from Exeter in a MkII rather than a SWT 158/9 or FGW dmu.


Title: Re: SWT Paignton withdrawal
Post by: paul7575 on September 24, 2009, 19:54:51
I think part of the second LHCS diagram replaces the morning SWT service:

Cardiff 0800
Bristol TM 0855
Taunton 1002
Exeter SD 1035
Paignton 1127

Paignton 1247
Exeter SD 1333
Taunton 1409
Bristol TM 1521
Cardiff 1629

But when I had a quick check I didn't think the afternoon SWT was covered...

Paul



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