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Title: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 26, 2009, 02:59:43 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8221540.stm):
Quote Network Rail is due to announce its preferred route for a new high speed railway line linking London to the north of England and possibly Scotland. There is speculation that the company which runs Britain's rail infrastructure will favour building the new line up the country's west coast. This could mean rail journey times between London and Glasgow taking as little as two and a half hours. However, any final decision will be made by the government. That could depend heavily on how much it costs, said the BBC's transport correspondent, Richard Scott. The proposed new line would become the country's second high speed rail link after the line which runs from London St Pancras to the Channel Tunnel, used primarily by Eurostar services. Network Rail says the new line is required to ease the pressure on Britain's railways. It says passenger numbers have rocketed by 40% over the past decade, and that by 2024 many existing lines will be at full capacity. Trains on any new line could travel at speeds of more than 180 miles per hour. However, if it is built along the west coast via Birmingham and Manchester, it would mean cities like Sheffield, Leeds and Newcastle missing out. Network Rail's announcement is due at 0945 BST. Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: RailCornwall on August 26, 2009, 10:24:27 The programme has been announced ...
www.networkrail.co.uk/newlines (http://www.networkrail.co.uk/newlines) It envisages a route from Central London to BOTH Glasgow and Edinburgh via a western route through Preston with spurs off to Heathrow, Birmingham, Warrington/Liverpool and Manchester. Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: Tim on August 26, 2009, 11:49:03 I am pleased to see that the main route north isn't being diverted via LHR thereby adding 15 minutes to the journy of folk who don't want to go anywhere near an airport. Serving LHR by a spur might also make it easier to get the air industry to pay for some of that bit (as a condition of teh third runway?).
Still raises the question of where the LHR spur will cross the GWML and whether there will be interchange? Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: Henry on August 27, 2009, 17:57:26 http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Network-Rail-To-Cut-1800-Jobs-Across-The-UK-To-Cut-Costs/Article/200908415369896?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15369896_Network_Rail_To_Cut_1%2C800_Jobs_Across_The_UK_To_Cut_Costs
'There may be trouble ahead' Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: bemmy on August 27, 2009, 20:58:59 http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Network-Rail-To-Cut-1800-Jobs-Across-The-UK-To-Cut-Costs/Article/200908415369896?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15369896_Network_Rail_To_Cut_1%2C800_Jobs_Across_The_UK_To_Cut_Costs See also:'There may be trouble ahead' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8225569.stm If it's about efficiency, and they really can carry out the same amount of work with 5% less staff, then I'm all for it. Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: JayMac on August 27, 2009, 21:09:17 http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Network-Rail-To-Cut-1800-Jobs-Across-The-UK-To-Cut-Costs/Article/200908415369896?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15369896_Network_Rail_To_Cut_1%2C800_Jobs_Across_The_UK_To_Cut_Costs See also:'There may be trouble ahead' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8225569.stm If it's about efficiency, and they really can carry out the same amount of work with 5% less staff, then I'm all for it. Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: Electric train on August 28, 2009, 09:15:09 http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Network-Rail-To-Cut-1800-Jobs-Across-The-UK-To-Cut-Costs/Article/200908415369896?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15369896_Network_Rail_To_Cut_1%2C800_Jobs_Across_The_UK_To_Cut_Costs See also:'There may be trouble ahead' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8225569.stm If it's about efficiency, and they really can carry out the same amount of work with 5% less staff, then I'm all for it. There are a lot of templated positions in maintenance that are vacant, in projects many of the agency staff have gone Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: eightf48544 on August 28, 2009, 11:09:26 It's ironic that after announcing HS2 Networkrail also announced 1600? redundancies!
Can't see how they can plan and implement HS2, GWML electrification etc. in a reasonable timescale if they are cutting back staff so drastically. Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: Electric train on August 28, 2009, 15:45:55 It's ironic that after announcing HS2 Networkrail also announced 1600? redundancies! Can't see how they can plan and implement HS2, GWML electrification etc. in a reasonable timescale if they are cutting back staff so drastically. Two distinct halves of the same company maintenance, track renewals, soon to include minor infrastructure renewals is part of "Assets" and GWML electrification HS2 Crossrail Thameslink major renewals etc is part of Investments, there is a(nother) reorg due which will see reshaping of the company Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: paul7575 on August 28, 2009, 17:54:35 It's ironic that after announcing HS2 Networkrail also announced 1600? redundancies! Can't see how they can plan and implement HS2, GWML electrification etc. in a reasonable timescale if they are cutting back staff so drastically. They won't build HS2. From the synopsis report Q&A page: Q - Who will build it? A - Not Network Rail but perhaps a similar consortium as that which came together to build HS1." Paul Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: JayMac on August 28, 2009, 18:39:19 http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Network-Rail-To-Cut-1800-Jobs-Across-The-UK-To-Cut-Costs/Article/200908415369896?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15369896_Network_Rail_To_Cut_1%2C800_Jobs_Across_The_UK_To_Cut_Costs See also:'There may be trouble ahead' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8225569.stm If it's about efficiency, and they really can carry out the same amount of work with 5% less staff, then I'm all for it. There are a lot of templated positions in maintenance that are vacant, in projects many of the agency staff have gone Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: IndustryInsider on August 29, 2009, 15:34:36 I was amused by thelondonpaper's graphics department's interpretation of the route of the line. It appears to take a left lurch from Manchester to Liverpool before splittling into two for the final third of the route after Preston. One spur follows the rough route of the WCML to Glasgow, with the Edinburgh route tackling some very challenging terrain en-route to Edinburgh. No wonder it's gonna cost so much... :)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/3867771122_745b6a399e_m.jpg) Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: paul7575 on August 29, 2009, 20:50:40 The same expert graphics department that had trains running directly between the two LU Hammersmith stations when they attempted to explain the extended Circle Line proposals. :o
http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/transport/is-the-london-underground-circle-line-about-to-become-the-semi-circle-li?image=1 (http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/transport/is-the-london-underground-circle-line-about-to-become-the-semi-circle-li?image=1) Paul Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: Btline on August 29, 2009, 23:32:41 I'd rather places like Birmingham were not on a branch.
Not everyone goes to London. There are regular flights from Birmingham to Glasgow, Edinburgh etc which need to be replaced. Having New Street to Manchester in 40 minutes would cut huge amounts of traffic off the M6 ending the need for the M6 Toll extension. etc... Hopefully having Heathrow on a branch will END the idea of a "Heathrow Hub", which will add 5 mins onto GWML services. We will have Crossrail, the Tube, Airtrack and the Hthrw Exprss to get people from London to the terminals. The spur suggested by NR is a far better idea. Title: Re: 'High speed railway decision due' at 09:45 on 26/08/09 Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on August 29, 2009, 23:47:28 just out of interest what would happen requarding stockport or ' la northen bottleneck!'' would they route it via heald grean on the style line?
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