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Title: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on June 04, 2009, 00:15:19 So - we can get to London in the morning
But try getting home in the evening - either a direct journey very late at night or several hours and changes - or a BUS If what is in the avantix machines is true - then - Virgin here I come - or I try a hereford - slough ticket and use it via newport and threaten publicity if they argue given the piss poor provision else where! Answers to the panel ..... I need to be in slough by 9am I can deal with getting to WOS by 9:45pm How? P.S. BUS is not an option - id rather stay in a hotel - I throw up on BUSES Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 04, 2009, 01:33:58 According to the FGW website journey planner, during the work the Mon-Fri 17.48 from Paddington will run through to Hereford via Worcester and is due into Shrub Hill at 20.44, but not sure how that fits in with your working times.
Also, from August 3 to 24, trains will be running between Moreton-in-Marsh and London to a near-normal timetable - ie 17.22, 17.51, 18.21, 19.22, 20.20 all run in the evening and in the morning there will be 5.48, 6.13 and 7.07 departures from Moreton to London. That would obviously mean a fair bit of extra driving beyond Worcester for you, though probably not a lot in it time-wise compared with travelling via Stroud by rail. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Oxman on June 04, 2009, 23:36:08 A quick check on the National Rail website say there are three direct trains from Padd to Worcester at 17.48, 18.48 and 19.48, all with sub 3 hour journey times. From Slough, depart 17.30, change Reading, arr Worcester 20.44.
I understand that route restrictions will be eased (at least on FGW services) so that Worcester - London via Stroud or BPW will be allowed, as will Hereford - London via Newport, on ATW services. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Btline on June 04, 2009, 23:47:08 I suppose we must grit our teeth and think of the benefits the works will bring.... :-X
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on June 05, 2009, 00:03:27 A quick check on the National Rail website say there are three direct trains from Padd to Worcester at 17.48, 18.48 and 19.48, all with sub 3 hour journey times. From Slough, depart 17.30, change Reading, arr Worcester 20.44. I understand that route restrictions will be eased (at least on FGW services) so that Worcester - London via Stroud or BPW will be allowed, as will Hereford - London via Newport, on ATW services. Thats not what the advantix machine was saying! The 1748 was the only direct one which is too early for me seeing as the first train wont get me to the office until 930! Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 05, 2009, 09:03:04 Seems to be a discrepancy here between what national rail site says and what the FGW site - and presumably avantix - says about those trains. FGW shows only the 17.48, while National rail shows the three direct trains.
Maybe someone within FGW can try to find out, since they seem to be rather reluctant to actually make any announcement of timetable details to passengers, even with just over a month to go to the start of the work. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: eightf48544 on June 05, 2009, 10:12:13 This is another case of were the fragmented railway cannot deliver!
Whilst the engineering works have been known about for months there are so many parties to negotiate the firm plans for blovkades special timetables alternative routes possibly involving other TOCs etc. that it's not suprising everything is still a muddle If there was a fat controller Western Region, their staff would be in charge of the whole job. And because if there is fat controller WR there would be an even fatter controller BR they would be able to say OK we're shutting the Cotswold line, tickets will be valid on all feasble alternatives, e.g WCML from New Street, Chiltern, Newport etc plus those lines will run either extra or longer trains. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: devon_metro on June 05, 2009, 10:28:14 This is another case of were the fragmented railway cannot deliver! Whilst the engineering works have been known about for months there are so many parties to negotiate the firm plans for blovkades special timetables alternative routes possibly involving other TOCs etc. that it's not suprising everything is still a muddle If there was a fat controller Western Region, their staff would be in charge of the whole job. And because if there is fat controller WR there would be an even fatter controller BR they would be able to say OK we're shutting the Cotswold line, tickets will be valid on all feasble alternatives, e.g WCML from New Street, Chiltern, Newport etc plus those lines will run either extra or longer trains. The problem I find with engineering is the fact they close a line for a week, and all that is achieved is a bit of pruning. If they had a mass workforce, so much more could be done, eliminating the need for substantial closures twice yearly! Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: gwr2006 on June 05, 2009, 10:58:55 The public timetable showing bus and train times should be available early next week as I'm told it is now being printed. From what I've seen the following options are available for a Worcester-Slough commuter.
Ticket restrictions are being lifted on two routes - from Hereford via Newport and from Hereford/Worcester via Cheltenham and Swindon or Bristol Parkway (on First Great Western services). Some of the Cheltenham trains are also extended to start and finish at Worcester, Great Malvern or Hereford too. Between 20-31 July and 24-28 August 0517 Great Malvern - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0536, change Reading, arr Slough 0820) 0459 Hereford - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0551, change Reading, arr Slough 0857) 0608 Hereford - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0704, change Reading, arr Slough 0944) 1748 Paddington - Hereford via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1730, change Reading, arr Worcester 2044) 1848 Paddington - Worcester via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1830, change Reading, arr Worcester 2134) 1948 Paddington - Great Malvern via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1941, change Reading, arr Worcester 2236) There are also going to be three coaches in the morning and evening from Evesham to connect with trains at Cheltenham Spa so that is another alternative. Between 3 - 24 August 0517 Great Malvern - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0536, change Reading, arr Slough 0820) 0707 Moreton-in-Marsh - Paddington (change Reading, arr Slough 0857) 0726 Moreton-in-Marsh - Paddington (arr Slough 0924) 0608 Hereford - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0704, chnage Reading, arr Slough 0944) 1751 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh (From Slough, depart 1730, change Reading, arr Moreton-in-Marsh 1938) 1821 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh (From Slough, depart 1816, change Reading, arr Moreton-in-Marsh 2018) 1848 Paddington - Worcester via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1830, change Reading, arr Worcester 2134) 1937 Slough - Moreton-in-Marsh (arr 2103) Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Tim on June 05, 2009, 11:02:29 Ticket restrictions are being lifted I am glad - a sensible common-sense move We need to see more of this when their is engineering. Many passengers dislike buses (why do you think they are prepared to pay to travel by train) and would prefer an extened train journey to travelling by bus. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on June 05, 2009, 11:24:29 The public timetable showing bus and train times should be available early next week as I'm told it is now being printed. From what I've seen the following options are available for a Worcester-Slough commuter. Ticket restrictions are being lifted on two routes - from Hereford via Newport and from Hereford/Worcester via Cheltenham and Swindon or Bristol Parkway (on First Great Western services). Some of the Cheltenham trains are also extended to start and finish at Worcester, Great Malvern or Hereford too. Between 20-31 July and 24-28 August 0517 Great Malvern - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0536, change Reading, arr Slough 0820) 0459 Hereford - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0551, change Reading, arr Slough 0857) 0608 Hereford - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0704, change Reading, arr Slough 0944) 1748 Paddington - Hereford via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1730, change Reading, arr Worcester 2044) 1848 Paddington - Worcester via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1830, change Reading, arr Worcester 2134) 1948 Paddington - Great Malvern via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1941, change Reading, arr Worcester 2236) There are also going to be three coaches in the morning and evening from Evesham to connect with trains at Cheltenham Spa so that is another alternative. Between 3 - 24 August 0517 Great Malvern - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0536, change Reading, arr Slough 0820) 0707 Moreton-in-Marsh - Paddington (change Reading, arr Slough 0857) 0726 Moreton-in-Marsh - Paddington (arr Slough 0924) 0608 Hereford - Paddington via Cheltenham (From Worcester, depart 0704, chnage Reading, arr Slough 0944) 1751 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh (From Slough, depart 1730, change Reading, arr Moreton-in-Marsh 1938) 1821 Paddington - Moreton-in-Marsh (From Slough, depart 1816, change Reading, arr Moreton-in-Marsh 2018) 1848 Paddington - Worcester via Cheltenham (From Slough, depart 1830, change Reading, arr Worcester 2134) 1937 Slough - Moreton-in-Marsh (arr 2103) Thanks If that 1848 does exist - it will work for me Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Btline on June 05, 2009, 22:29:55 A good move would be to take off the Didcot stops from the XX48s that are going to/from Worcester.
The stop could be inserted into the XX51 trains, which will be less busy (as they are stopping short at Oxford or Morteon). Is this too hard to manage? Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 07, 2009, 12:41:41 A good move would be to take off the Didcot stops from the XX48s that are going to/from Worcester. The stop could be inserted into the XX51 trains, which will be less busy (as they are stopping short at Oxford or Morteon). Is this too hard to manage? But it would be extremely confusing for anyone going to Didcot used to leaving on a Cheltenham route train at XX.48 to be told they would have to switch for all of six weeks. Plus going in and out of Didcot station would throw out the paths of the XX.51s between there and Oxford, which isn't a great idea at such a busy time of the day. And loadings on commuter services generally are pretty light during August, due to the holidays (eg it's not unknown for the first Hereford-London train to have fewer than 100 people on board from Moreton some mornings in August), so capacity really isn't an issue. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Timmer on June 09, 2009, 21:19:57 More information on alternative arrangements being made whilst work is taking place but still no timetable:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4052 Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 09, 2009, 22:56:12 This looks to me like the overall explanatory text stripped out from the printed booklet, indeed it says "Catering on board trains is indicated in the timetable overleaf".
I have been told at Moreton-in-Marsh station that they are expecting the timetables soon, so fingers crossed. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: IndustryInsider on June 09, 2009, 23:00:32 I have to say that barely a months proper notice of the alternative services throughout the blockade is a pretty poor show!
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Oxman on June 09, 2009, 23:11:06 There is a count down clock on one of the displays at Oxford showing 38 days to the start of the blockade. The timetable leaflets were available there today.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on June 09, 2009, 23:11:30 I have to say that barely a months proper notice of the alternative services throughout the blockade is a pretty poor show! Yes My contract is up for renewal IfI cant get home - im going to take six weeks off but my client would like to know I suspect many employees need to make arrangements Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 10, 2009, 22:20:12 I have to say that barely a months proper notice of the alternative services throughout the blockade is a pretty poor show! While I agree it would have been good to have the full details of the revised services a few weeks earlier than this, FGW and Network Rail have done a pretty good job of spreading the word in communities along the route that something is going to be happening over the summer, both with info at the stations - there have been posters at several strategic points at Oxford station for many weeks now - plus the roadshows, so I can assure you, a lot of people are aware there will be periods without trains, or with altered trains. There have been a good few stories published in the Journal series papers in Evesham and the Cotswolds and we have run several in Oxfordshire as well, while I know my colleagues in Worcester are also on the case. But can't quite understand why there is no link on the FGW website from the homepage or the special northcotwolds page to that stuff Timmer flagged up. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 10, 2009, 22:38:58 But can't quite understand why there is no link on the FGW website from the homepage or the special northcotwolds page to that stuff Timmer flagged up. Hmm. That's an interesting observation, willc. ;) There are many here on this forum (myself included) who have tried to point out to FGW that they really need to improve the 'customer focus / user friendliness' of their website. However, I remain hopeful that FGW will listen to, and act on, such comments. Chris ;) Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 10, 2009, 22:59:14 Quite. The latest 'news' item on the website, if you know where to look for it, is 'Book early for Easter'
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 11, 2009, 00:04:26 I do - and I did: it's dated 18 February 2009. See http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?id=615
Mark Hopwood, Sue Evans - please note! ;) :D ;D Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Timmer on June 11, 2009, 07:05:30 Don't get me started on keeping websites up to date >:( As good as the FGW website is, it will only ever be as good when things are kept up to date and the news page is one part that is very neglected. I'm still smarting from the fact that they don't publish revised timetables at times of major engineering work at weekends anymore. A decision made during the reign of Alison.
Does anyone know if FGW are ever going to launch their own version of 'Print Your Own Timetable'? I agree willc that I thought it was strange that having created a special page for Cotswold Line work, they go and create a new page. I don't understand why they haven't put the timetable online yet if the printed version is now available at stations. Usually its the other way round. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Timmer on June 11, 2009, 17:35:55 Here's the timetable:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Documents/Custom/North%20Cotswold%20Weekday%20Timetable%2020%20July%20to%2028%20Aug.pdf Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Steve Bray on June 11, 2009, 21:37:03 During the engineering works on the Cotswold Line, would anyone know if it will be possible to use a Network Card between Worcester and Reading via Swindon? Is that covered under the 'easing of ticket restrictions'? Whilst I would enjoy a bus journey through the Cotswolds, I don't want my journey to take forever.
I would probably travel on a Friday evening/Sunday afternoon on the through diverted services, so I wouldn't be breaking my journey. Thanks Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 12, 2009, 21:46:04 Here's the timetable: http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Documents/Custom/North%20Cotswold%20Weekday%20Timetable%2020%20July%20to%2028%20Aug.pdf But note these are only the weekday times. All the leaflet advises for weekend travel is to go online or ask at the station... and the stuff in the timetable alterations section still doesn't have a link to the timetable pdf. I hope Network Rail's work programme is a bit more joined up. Steve, the logic of easing the restrictions would be that a Network Railcard ticket from Worcester should be valid on the long way round but since when has logic ever played a part in these things? I'd ask at a station or call the FGW ticket line on 08457 000125. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: James_H on June 13, 2009, 00:06:47 Am I missing something or is it a heck of a lot easier just to use nationailrail.co.uk (from where it's been possible to look up the replacement bus times for at least a month)...?
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on June 13, 2009, 13:48:56 James, in some circumstances, yes.
But that assumes that you have access to the internet - a good many people in this country don't, so printed material is still important. Also, with a journey planner, you only get a small piece of the picture, which is fine if you are only interested in a very specific time for travel. But many of us like to have an overview, or have to travel at different times during the week, so having the whole timetable available in a handy format is useful - especially when it comes to working out what routes the replacement buses are taking, as any detour off the A44 to get to some of the stations substantially increases journey times. A printed pocket timetable is a lot more portable than sheaves of A4 print-outs. And if using websites, you have no guarantee that the info loaded in them is accurate and up to date. As I pointed out a bit up the thread, there was actually a discrepancy between the results the FGW and National Rail journey planners were producing about what afternoon peak through trains would run to Worcester via the Stroud Valley. I haven't checked to see if they have sorted this out yet. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Btline on June 13, 2009, 17:38:14 Why is the world obsessed with using computers for EVERYTHING?
What is wrong with being able to pick up a timetable book at my local station? A book which can fit in my pocket, with all the train times for that route. I haven't had to waste my time, paper, ink, and download allowance downloading & printing off reams of A4 paper, where the times run from one page to the other, between 2 stations only. I have to fold it to make it portable, and doesn't contain any other info like Phone numbers and train/station facilities. Just because it can be done on a computer, it doesn't means it's better on a computer! Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: James_H on June 14, 2009, 18:13:47 OK, point taken...
I'm personally more interested in what compensation (as mentioned in that linked pdf) is going to be available to anyone with a season ticket... Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Oxman on June 14, 2009, 22:29:34 Some complimentary first class tickets.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: James_H on June 15, 2009, 21:45:49 Cool... where did you get that info from? The link I have...
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=3501 ...doesn't have any detail. Do you know if these tickets will be usable on services to London (I guess not, but it'd be handy)...? Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Ollie on June 17, 2009, 19:03:04 I have been told that Network Card discounted tickets will be accepted via Swindon.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 12, 2009, 21:13:17 Some (perhaps belated?) publicity for the revised timetable, from the Worcester News (http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/local/4486770.Check_train_times_during_summer_of_rail_disruption/):
Quote Check train times during summer of rail disruption Worcestershire rail passengers travelling to Oxford, Reading and London Paddington are being urged to look at a temporary timetable with six weeks of engineering works looming. From Monday, July 20, passengers using Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore and Evesham stations will be affected by major works to the Cotswolds rail line. The works, scheduled to continue until Friday, August 28, are the first stage of a plan to dual-track the 21-mile stretch of single line between Evesham and Charlbury, in Oxfordshire, and install modern signals. First Great Western, which operates passenger traffic on the route, and Network Rail, which is carrying out the ^72 million project, have carried out a public information campaign to warn passengers of changes to timetables and tell them about the alternative routes then can take. Dan Panes, spokesman for Great Western, said: ^We^re trying to get to as many customers as we can before the work starts. We^ve got announcements on trains, we^re putting notices up at stations and we^re letting people know face-to-face. We^re asking people to plan their journeys ahead.^ He said some journeys would be longer than usual but this was unavoidable. Great Western has produced a booklet, available from train stations, containing timetable changes and other travel information. Tickets will be valid on alternative routes and certain routes will have easements, allowing passengers to get around diversions without paying more. For all monthly and annual season ticket holders there is a pair of free tickets for use anywhere on the company^s train network. The project is backed by Cotswold Line Promotions Group campaigners, who said the works, though disruptive, would improve rail travel. Group member Allen Deney said: ^It^s all for the greater good. In the past you^ve had people at Ledbury railway station, occasionally Evesham, being tipped off the train because the trains coming up from London always take priority [on a single track route].^ The scheme is due to finish in early 2011 and should cut delays on the line. David Northey, of Network Rail, said: ^The performance for trains had been extremely poor on the Cotswolds route and affected massive parts of the rail network. A train from London to Worcester breaking down would affect trains in Birmingham New Street and Moor Street and then knock-on to those in Leamington Spa.^ He said the work would mean the number of trains running on time would fall in line with the Government-set target of 92.6 per cent. For timetables call National Rail Enquiries on 08457 484950 or Great Western on 08457 000125. Alternatively visit firstgreatwestern.co.uk/ printtimetable. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on July 12, 2009, 21:28:56 Ok I need help.......I have been looking at the replacement time tables and i am confused............(I never did that well with timetables and all these this code and that code).
My requirements: 1. I have to leave and return to the same station (there are exceptions in an emergency once or twice a week where I can get eejit features out of bed to drop me off next morning). 2. I have to be in Slough by 9 to leave at 6 or by 10 to leave at 7 3. I have to leave from WOS or LUD 4. I dont want to be back at WOS any later than the regular 1922 would get me there or LUD any later than the 22:25 arrival from Newport would get me there 5. Its cannot be a bus at any point - I get very very very sick I know the next six weeks are going to be hell but I will suck it up (hotels in the thames valley cost too bloody much and I aint staying in a travelodge! I'd rather sleep in FC!) Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on July 12, 2009, 23:45:40 no doubt you will turn your nose up at this but the ibis in swindon is actually ok and cheep
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on July 13, 2009, 00:53:29 Fallen Angel,
Hope this is what you are looking for. NB that the times below apply to the two weeks at the end of July and the last week in August, as the pattern is slightly different during the weeks when trains are running as far as Moreton-in-Marsh. At a glance, the main change I can see then is that the 07.04 from WOS will not call at Slough from August 3 to 21, so you would have to change at Reading, though arrival at slough is still 09.44. Your options via the Stroud Valley line would appear to be the 05.36 from Shrub Hill (change at Didcot, arrive Slough 08.20) or 05.51 (change Reading, arrive Slough 08.57), or for a 10am-ish arrival the 07.04 from Shrub Hill, direct to Slough, arriving 09.44. Return journeys are 18.30 from Slough, change Reading, gets to Shrub Hill at 21.34 (or departing 17.30, changing Reading, would get you to Shrub Hill at 20.44). After 7pm, there's a 19.06 from Slough, changing Reading, and again at Bristol Parkway (to an FGW Class 158), getting to Shrub Hill at 22.12, or depart Slough 19.41, changing Reading, gets to Shrub Hill at 22.36. If you do LUD via Newport, you can't make Slough for 9am. If you depart 06.11, with Newport and Reading changes, you can arrive Slough 09.44. Return journeys are 17.58 from Slough, same two changes, arrive LUD 21.41 and depart 19.06, arrive LUD 22.25. For more general notice, there are posters out at the stations revising the published timetable leaflet, which say that from August 3-21, the 18.21 from London will terminate at Oxford, where a connecting service to Moreton will be provided, instead of the HST running though to Moreton. Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on July 15, 2009, 10:06:45 As I have tried to say before (and I cant remember exactly what I wrote word for word) thanks and it does confirm my fears that a daily commute is not going to be an option.
Gettin up at 0430 to get home at 2230 is too much even for me. I will get the direct train to slough one day and get to the office for 10, stay over somewhere south of the blockade, then get in early and get one of the directs the next day. Now here is a Q - if the cotswolds season is valid via Newport for the duration, which it is, does that mean I could use it to get to Swindon/Bristol etc and leave the station? Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: willc on July 15, 2009, 10:20:13 While a Hereford season (if anyone actually possesses such a thing) might be valid via Newport, I doubt a Worcester one will be.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked the replacement WOS/PAD time table for the works blackout Post by: Mookiemoo on July 15, 2009, 11:17:43 While a Hereford season (if anyone actually possesses such a thing) might be valid via Newport, I doubt a Worcester one will be. I have had one! And I was intending to get another one! Since the add on fares via newport are a damn site more than the surcharge to hereford This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |