Title: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Lee on August 01, 2007, 11:12:07 Fire crews were called to help free the man who became trapped under the train at Torre Station in Torquay (link below.)
http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=143632&command=displayContent&sourceNode=142719&contentPK=17983584&folderPk=91672&pNodeId=201778 All services in and out of the station were cancelled while investigators made inquiries at the scene yesterday (31/07/2007.) A spokesman for Devon and Cornwall Police said: "Initially, it was thought the man was sat on the edge of the platform with his legs over the sides but after studying CCTV images, it appears the man may have been picking up a cigarette butt." The injured person was then taken to Torbay Hospital with serious leg injuries. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Jim on August 05, 2007, 12:28:23 WTF was he doing on the track, for whatever reason it was, surley people know not to go on the track.I think people like this should be made to pay the delay minutes themselves!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on August 17, 2007, 17:33:21 Thank god Torbay Hospital is only 2 minutes around the corner!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Lee on August 25, 2007, 14:08:06 Scenes of Torbay adorn three posters due to go to auction in London next month (link below.)
http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=143632&command=displayContent&sourceNode=142719&contentPK=18201682&folderPk=91672&pNodeId=201778 The posters were produced by British Railways in the 1950s and 1960s and are expected to fetch around ^2,000 when they are auctioned at Christie's on September 13 2007. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Lee on October 05, 2008, 00:24:34 From approximately 0900 on Monday 27 until approximately 1420 on Friday 31 October 2008 buses will be replacing trains between Newton Abbot and Paignton (link below.)
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2986 Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Lee on October 10, 2008, 23:13:57 Torquay Railway Station could be given a new lease of life in revamp plans by Network Rail (link below.)
http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Revamp-signal-railway-heyday-return/article-387960-detail/article.html The company wants to create six office and retail units at the now disused rooms in the platform building at Solsbro Road. They say that converting 16 rooms, including the former first class ladies waiting room, booking room, boiler house and coal store will halt the decline of the grade II listed building. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on October 11, 2008, 09:56:17 Why?
Torre station is far closer to any signs of economy in Torquay. Torquay station sits at the bottom of an area of housing and on the other side a beach. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: stebbo on October 11, 2008, 20:56:30 Love this only because it brings on a bout of nostalgia. My late grandparents lived in Torquay from 1939 to 1972 and my parents and I used to visit them nearly every school holiday. I well remember going with my mother on the Torbay Express in the late 1950s/early 1960s from Paddington to Torquay and back.
Remember the thrill at platform 1 at Paddington if a locomotive with high tender backed on to the train as high tender meant a King. Also still remember a summer's day at Dawlish when the driver went for a roaring start so as to scatter hot ash across the beach and scatter the swunbathers - 'fraid was cheap thrill for a seven year old leaning out of the carriage window. Also remember my grandad putting my mum and I on the train at Torquay with steam coming up between the carriages. And so on to the Westerns...... Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: vacman on October 11, 2008, 22:40:46 He he he what they gonna do, nuke the place and start again!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on April 19, 2009, 17:57:41 Just wandering, have any of the linespeeds been increased since the last engineering block? Trains seem to be able to manage Paignton - Newton Abbot easily in 15 minutes and I don't remember this being the case beforehand.
Hopefully somebody knows! Thanks Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 20, 2009, 00:16:16 Blimey, devon_metro - if you don't know, nobody else will! :o ;D
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on April 20, 2009, 08:23:18 Borrow one of Devon & Cornwalls speedcamera vans, there are enough of them around ::)
I'll try and find out... Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: gaf71 on April 20, 2009, 10:03:04 No, speeds are the same.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on April 20, 2009, 17:58:12 Fair enough, thanks for that. Perhaps i'm just not used to the luxury of a seat so the time flys quicker when on the 150s/153s/143s that we seems to be getting now.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on April 20, 2009, 18:23:28 i have noticed alot of mixed stock on this line recently
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: The SprinterMeister on May 06, 2009, 20:46:50 Blimey, devon_metro - if you don't know, nobody else will! :o ;D No increase in the permitted speeds on the Paignton branch as a result of the last engineers blockade. There will be no further increases in speed until somebody puts in some CWR on the section between the former Aller Jn and Kingskerswell which is currently 45mph on jointed track on the down road. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on May 06, 2009, 22:17:59 Blimey, devon_metro - if you don't know, nobody else will! :o ;D No increase in the permitted speeds on the Paignton branch as a result of the last engineers blockade. There will be no further increases in speed until somebody puts in some CWR on the section between the former Aller Jn and Kingskerswell which is currently 45mph on jointed track on the down road. A nasty bit of track that, particularly on a 14x Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: The SprinterMeister on May 06, 2009, 22:54:01 Blimey, devon_metro - if you don't know, nobody else will! :o ;D No increase in the permitted speeds on the Paignton branch as a result of the last engineers blockade. There will be no further increases in speed until somebody puts in some CWR on the section between the former Aller Jn and Kingskerswell which is currently 45mph on jointed track on the down road.Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on May 06, 2009, 22:59:11 Perhaps the relaying of the up line is the reason I have noticed faster journies. I wouldn't count on much more than the trimming of a few bushes in the next week long possesion that Network Rail imposes upon the bus branch, during school holidays. Genius.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 28, 2009, 19:44:31 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/MP-s-anger-cuts-rail-service/article-1459529-detail/article.html):
Quote The government has refused to improve rail services to Torbay despite a plea by MP Adrian Sanders. Mr Sanders, who is campaigning for better train links to the Bay, said Government ministers revealed it is quicker to travel the 400 miles north of the border than the 200 to Torbay. Mr Sanders said it takes under four hours to get to Scotland from London compared with more than four hours to the Bay. "It takes about three hours, 45 minutes to get from Kings Cross to over the Scottish border," he said. "The Government has been reducing journey times and increasing services to the north of England while increasing times and removing services from London to the South West. They should be improving services to the region rather than giving up and taking away services just because they do not do well." In December, South West Trains' services to Torbay will be cut. Network Rail's route draft strategy also paves the way for First Great Western services to be removed from 2012. Mr Sanders said despite Torquay and Paignton being mainline stations, the minister had effectively demoted them to branch line status, endorsed the removal of services and constituted a refusal to look at the impact on the tourist industry. Mr Sanders asked Chris Mole, Parliamentary Under Secretary in the Department for Transport, to assess the effect on the tourism industry of the proposed cuts. Mr Mole said: "First Great Western operates two daily services to Torbay via Taunton which take around three and a quarter hours, and South West Trains operates two slower services via Yeovil which take around four and a quarter hours. The South West Trains services will be withdrawn in December 2009. Few passengers use these services to travel to Torbay from London, and regular faster services are available from London to Torbay by changing at Newton Abbot." Mr Sanders replied: "I am not sure many other constituencies face a halving of their direct line services to London. The Waterloo service is cheaper than First Great Western and is used by people, including occasionally the MP for Torbay, to get from the constituency to London. Will the Minister review the situation in the light of the fears of the tourist industry that it will lose custom as a result of those cuts?" Mr Mole said: "I assure the honourable Gentleman the number of trains on the Torbay branch line will remain the same, providing access to Torbay. The department has received no representations from South West Tourism on this issue." Mr Sanders said this denial was in the face of several meetings between himself, the Torbay Line Rail Users Group, ministers and officials. He said: "The Government has been remorselessly eroding rail services to Torbay for years." Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: signalandtelegraph on October 28, 2009, 20:28:03 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/MP-s-anger-cuts-rail-service/article-1459529-detail/article.html): Quote The government has refused to improve rail services to Torbay despite a plea by MP Adrian Sanders. Mr Sanders, who is campaigning for better train links to the Bay, said Government ministers revealed it is quicker to travel the 400 miles north of the border than the 200 to Torbay. Mr Sanders said it takes under four hours to get to Scotland from London compared with more than four hours to the Bay. "It takes about three hours, 45 minutes to get from Kings Cross to over the Scottish border," he said. From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/MP-s-anger-cuts-rail-service/article-1459529-detail/article.html): Mr Sanders asked Chris Mole, Parliamentary Under Secretary in the Department for Transport, to assess the effect on the tourism industry of the proposed cuts. Mr Mole said: "First Great Western operates two daily services to Torbay via Taunton which take around three and a quarter hours, So its not quicker to get to Scotland then???? Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on October 28, 2009, 22:24:45 I was in awe at the sheer rubbish in this article when reading this morning. The sheer number of innacuaries and irrelevant snippets of info.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Bob_Blakey on October 29, 2009, 06:34:04 Politicians! Don't you just love'em? It doesn't take a genius to have a quick look at the timetable and figure out that only a very few early-morning or late-evening journeys are timed at over 4 hours, and during the day around 3 hours (with 1 change) is possible.
And as far as I was aware FGW are going to be filling the SWT blanks in December. So does Mr Sanders actually have a different agenda or is he just very good friends with Kermit? Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Henry on October 29, 2009, 09:12:48 I suppose we will have to wait and see what happens, I know Teignmouth/Dawlish have lost a direct service to Paddington in the morning which used to be well used. Also with Torquay/Paignton losing 'dedicated' platform staff and the Torbay rail user group concerned, you wonder if their is some truth in the story. I believe FGW have refused to comment. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: woody on October 29, 2009, 13:43:56 Given the massive annual hikes in franchise premium payements that FGW have contractually agreed to nothing can be discounted these days.Lets face it FGW are being expected to provide more and more for less and less,inevitably there are going to be casualties along the way if nothing changes.The further away you are from FGWs "centre of gravity" along the main Paddington/Bristol/Swansea axis the more apparent that is becoming.
Take electrification for example,following the recently announced Great Western electrification ATOC is now calling for Bristol/Birmingham and Swindon /Cheltenham to be the next priority.So the further South West you are the more likely you are to be sqeezed. Took a trip recently from Plymouth to Hereford on FGWs very generous Club 55+ and was surprised at the number of empty seats on trains in the Worcester area compared to the sardine like conditions we often experience in my own neck of the woods between Plymouth and Penzance.Saw a FGW Hereford/Paddington HST at Malvern Link depart virtually empty at a time of day that FGW HSTs arrive in Plymouth from Cornwall sometimes full and standing with commuters.There is clearly a 2 tier system at work on FGW,the dominating factor being the Monday/Friday commuter rush into/out of Paddington all else it seems is secondary to me particularly regards the far South West. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on October 29, 2009, 14:10:22 Also with Torquay/Paignton losing 'dedicated' I only ever see them Summer Saturdays!! Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devonian on October 29, 2009, 16:25:00 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/MP-s-anger-cuts-rail-service/article-1459529-detail/article.html): That should be enough of a warning not to continue reading. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on October 29, 2009, 16:39:04 Or the mention of Adrian Saunders.
Anything to please the voters of Torbay, despite the failings of the previous Lib Dem establishment. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: inspector_blakey on October 29, 2009, 17:48:49 I'm confused. The article headline is about "cuts" to rail services. And yet the first sentence is about the government's "refusal to improve" services. Which isn't a cut, it's just not an increase. Can anyone explain this apparent contradiction to me? ??? That article almost makes it sound like Torbay is going to be entirely severed from the network come 2012, when I suspect it just means that the PGN - PAD services might be withdrawn (isn't it a bit early to be frothing about that just yet?). Oh the horror, if you're travelling from Paignton you might have to change trains to get to the olympics.
I was in awe at the sheer rubbish in this article when reading this morning. The sheer number of innacuaries and irrelevant snippets of info. Now now d_m, we have repeatedly established elsewhere on this forum that local journalists never publish anything that is not rigorously factually accurate. Please don't post anything that might be construed as critical. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: The Grecian on October 29, 2009, 20:16:01 I like the sentence about reaching Scotland from Kings Cross in 3h45m. That may be true but given that there's no station till Dunbar and it's at least another 25m to Edinburgh, it isn't actually that useful. In the same way, I'd like to congratulate Great Western for having services that get to Stoke Canon in under 2 hours from Paddington. It'd just be picky to point out there isn't a station there.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on October 29, 2009, 20:37:55 Most people drive to Totnes or Newton Abbot anyway, its far quicker from most parts of Torbay.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 29, 2009, 21:24:47 ... I'd like to congratulate Great Western for having services that get to Stoke Canon in under 2 hours from Paddington. It'd just be picky to point out there isn't a station there. Thanks for posting that, The Grecian. Just as an aside, there was a railway station at Stoke Canon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke_Canon#The_Railway), for 100 years. The fire, in 1847, seems to have been rather spectacular! :o Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: gaf71 on October 31, 2009, 21:33:57 I like the sentence about reaching Scotland from Kings Cross in 3h45m. That may be true but given that there's no station till Dunbar and it's at least another 25m to Edinburgh, it isn't actually that useful. In the same way, I'd like to congratulate Great Western for having services that get to Stoke Canon in under 2 hours from Paddington. It'd just be picky to point out there isn't a station there. :D or Tiverton Junction...but that's not the point, is it? ???Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on December 14, 2009, 22:51:17 Just seen a piece on BBC spotlight claiming that lots of little darlings are getting left behind at Torre station after school on the 1521 Torre - Exmouth. It apparently often only has 2 out of 3 booked carriages. The footage they showed was a single 142. The conductor having fun it seemed!
I've travelled once on this service and despite it having 4 carriages was thoroughly underwelmed at the number of school children joining! Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on December 15, 2009, 12:06:30 Yes, I saw it too. It's amazing how the little darlings can be so "well behaved" when the cameras are rolling (but that's another matter). It is usually a 142+153 combo, which is more than sufficient to carry them to Newton Abbot and Teignmouth (oh yes they forgot to mention the fact they are all off again within 2 stops.)
I do have sympathy, and would love to have at least 4 cars myself on every busy service - it's a horrible train to work, and is no fun for the Guard either! I don't know what happened last Friday, obviously it is not the norm for no services to run for 2 hours after that - in which case I would have hoped the Guard would have let Control know that kids were left behind and if there were cancellations brewing to get a couple of taxis down there. Sometimes due to the ridiculous rolling stock issues we have in the South-West, a 2 car just has to do, as there really is nothing else we can do. Perhaps the head of Torquay Grammar School would like a job at FGW, as his answer of "Get more carriages to put on" obviously hasn't been considered by Swindon ::) Fair play to Julian Crow for putting an appearance in, even if it wasn't the answer the BBC were probably looking for. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on December 15, 2009, 16:39:21 For those interested, it currently features on this link however I suspect it will soon be over-written
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/england/realmedia/spotlight/plymouth/spotlight?size=16x9&bgc=C0C0C0&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1 Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: vacman on December 17, 2009, 22:30:21 if even 1% of the bought a ticket once in a while then the true passenger numbers might show up!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on December 18, 2009, 01:57:25 To be honest, a fair few on the train in question have season tickets, as it turned up as a 4-car one day, and a few of them got a bit cheeky so I started ploughing through checking their tickets and most had ST's.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on December 18, 2009, 19:41:31 2 car today - rather wedged at Newton Abbot. Then it was wedged out of Exeter Central! (as were all of the 2 car pacers leaving Central between 1700 and 1730 - sort it out FGW)
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: FlyingDutchman on December 20, 2009, 16:58:14 On Radio Devon, FGW said they will fix it and place a 3 Car Unit on the service.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on December 20, 2009, 17:00:42 On Radio Devon, FGW said they will fix it and place a 3 Car Unit on the service. Its already booked a 3 car, however there simply isn't enough stock to meet demand in Devon on the "triangle of doom" Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on December 21, 2009, 01:44:35 Devon Metro is quite right.. it's booked 142+153.
However, the reason it runs short-formed as a 142 are due to the number of units currently on stop for various reasons or things going wrong during service requiring the 153 to be pulled off to enable another service not to be cancelled. It's not good enough, but until the DfT deem us worthy to have some more units, the current ridiculous situation will remain. I know the service in question and reports that have come out have gone as high as Mark Hopwood and there is consideration for a 4-car to be used instead, but at the same time, the 4-car will have to come off another service, upsetting a different group of travellers. It really is a case of being unable to please everyone all of the time. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on December 22, 2009, 12:30:28 2v3 again today! Good job its Christmas ;)
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: FlyingDutchman on December 22, 2009, 16:33:22 I wish the DFT will give us some newer rolling stock;
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on December 22, 2009, 17:01:06 2v3 again today! Good job its Christmas ;) I wouldn't have thought they'd be too bothered about keeping it a 3 car as the kids are on holidays. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 12, 2010, 13:32:05 From the South Devon Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/plans-cut-Bay-rail-link-capital/article-1699396-detail/article.html):
Quote Rail users have been reassured that direct train services linking Paignton with Paddington will not be cut, and could even be increased. The prospect of a third direct service to London from Torbay is the subject of current discussions between First Great Western and the Department of Transport. But rail campaigners say the Bay is still losing out on a potential 400,000 visitors a year because of poor rail links and facilities. Fears had been raised that Torbay could lose its London connection completely following the withdrawal of South West Trains between Waterloo and Paignton. The trains now travel no further west than Exeter. Members of the Torbay Rail Line Users group raised concerns about the Bay's First Great Western London service in a presentation to Torbay Council's Transport Working Party. Roger Dixon said Torbay MP Adrian Sanders had lobbied ministers over the prospect of visitors having to change at Exeter or Newton Abbot because of proposals to cut FGW direct services to Paignton from 2012. But the ministers had restated plans to trim train services in many areas of the UK, including Devon. Mr Dixon said the prospect of cutting Torbay services had been highlighted in a study by Network Rail and the Department of Transport on future use of the system. He said: "The council needs to lobby the Department of Transport to make sure they understand the impact this could have on Torbay. We estimate Torbay could be missing out on a potential 400,000 overnight visitors a year because it does not have the level of train services resorts such as Scarborough have. We have to chase up the Department of Transport to make sure direct services between Torbay and London are included in the franchise specifications in future." General manager of FGW, Julian Crow, said he believed there had been a misunderstanding. "There is absolutely no intention to cease running through services to Torbay," he said. He said they had added the second service to Paignton and have put proposals to the Government for a third train, arriving in Paignton mid-morning. "We carried out consultation last autumn and were grateful for the council's support and are awaiting approval but remain optimistic it will get the go ahead," he said. "It is simply not the case that through services are at risk. We have had a good year on local services in Devon and Cornwall and are still seeing growth." Torbay Rail Line Users chairman John Hartley said in the 1950s some 80 per cent of tourists used trains, this was now down to three to four per cent. The group was keen to work with Torbay Council to maximise train use in the area. Cllr Ian Doggett, a member of the group, also raised concerns about Cross Country services to the North East and North West. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on January 12, 2010, 16:11:04 Was quite interesting in this 3rd service they speak of!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 14, 2010, 16:41:53 From the BTP press release (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/BRITISH-TRANSPORT-POLICE-APPEAL-FOR-WITNESSES-AFTER-ASSAULT-ON-TRAIN-BETWEEN-EXETER-AND-TORRE-f11.aspx):
Quote BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE APPEAL FOR WITNESSES AFTER ASSAULT ON TRAIN BETWEEN EXETER AND TORRE British Transport Police (BTP) officers are appealing for witnesses after a passenger was assaulted on board a train between Exeter and Torre rail stations. Officers are urging anyone with information about the incident which took at 8.50pm place on Sunday 2 May to come forward. The victim was travelling on the 8pm Exeter to Paignton service. As the train approached Torre station rail station, a male passenger in his forties punched the victim on the back of his head as the victim got up to leave the train. The offender is described as being in his early forties, about 5ft 9in, of medium build, with a pale complexion. He had an inch-long scar on his left cheek, mousey hair that was greying and was wearing a khaki baseball cap, and a baggy jacket and trousers. It is believed the offender remained on the train until Paignton. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: JayMac on January 20, 2011, 16:52:50 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Couple-s-alarm-lack-night-cover-rail-station/article-3106528-detail/article.html):
Quote A lack of night staff cover at Torquay's main railway station has been criticised. Eighty-seven-year-old Stan Pearson and his wife, Corinne, who is in her 70s, say they were alarmed to find the Torquay station at Rathmore Road deserted when they arrived at 6.49pm after a trip to see family upcountry. Mr Pearson, of Hesketh Road, Torquay, who says he is an infrequent rail traveller, said he has written to the station operators to complain. First Great Western says there has been no nighttime cover for a considerable number of years but there are other security measures in place. Mr Pearson said: "Torquay is by no means a village halt, and I find it disgusting that we could arrive back in our home town to find there was no one from the railway company to offer us any assistance. "We both felt very vulnerable wandering about in the dark, trying to decide what to do before we remembered to use a mobile phone to call a taxi." Mr Pearson said it was the taxi driver who told him the station was unmanned after 5pm. He said "I am aware that there is a recession and that it is necessary to save on overheads, but to leave a main line station like Torquay without even a night watchman on duty seems to be going too far. "Supposing one of us had an accident leaving the train and there was no one to help us?" Train operator First Great Western says on weekdays the station is staffed between 7.10am and 5pm, with slightly shorter periods at weekends. A spokesman said: "The station is accredited by the British Transport Police under the secure stations scheme, is well lit, and utilises CCTV. A new help point is currently being installed. Customers who may require help on the train or on arrival at their destination station can have assisted travel by calling 0800 197 1329." Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on January 20, 2011, 17:17:19 Sounds as if they haven't stepped outside for 20 years...!
The majority of people passing through Torquay in the evening spend approximately 30 seconds on the station before exiting at the gate by the car park, having staff about would be a waste of time. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Phil on January 20, 2011, 17:20:03 The majority of people passing through Torquay in the evening spend approximately 30 seconds on the station before exiting at the gate by the car park, having staff about would be a waste of time. Might improve ticket revenue though, eh? Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on January 20, 2011, 17:22:59 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Couple-s-alarm-lack-night-cover-rail-station/article-3106528-detail/article.html): Quote A lack of night staff cover at Torquay's main railway station has been criticised. Eighty-seven-year-old Stan Pearson and his wife, Corinne, who is in her 70s, say they were alarmed to find the Torquay station at Rathmore Road deserted when they arrived at 6.49pm after a trip to see family upcountry. Mr Pearson, of Hesketh Road, Torquay$ who says he is an infrequent rail traveller, said he has written to the station operators to complain. First Great Western says there has been no nighttime cover for a considerable number of years but there are other security measures in place. Mr Pearson said: "Torquay is by no means a village halt, and I find it disgusting that we could arrive back in our home town to find there was no one from the railway company to offer us any assistance. "We both felt very vulnerable wandering about in the dark, trying to decide what to do before we remembered to use a mobile phone to call a taxi." Mr Pearson said it was the taxi driver who told him the station was unmanned after 5pm. He said "I am aware that there is a recession and that it is necessary to save on overheads, but to leave a main line station like Torquay without even a night watchman on duty seems to be going too far. "Supposing one of us had an accident leaving the train and there was no one to help us?" Train operator First Great Western says on weekdays the station is staffed between 7.10am and 5pm, with slightly shorter periods at weekends. A spokesman said: "The station is accredited by the British Transport Police under the secure stations scheme, is well lit, and utilises CCTV. A new help point is currently being installed. Customers who may require help on the train or on arrival at their destination station can have assisted travel by calling 0800 197 1329." I didn't realise a.) Torquay was on the "main-line" and b.) generally Guards don't ignore passengers after having an accident when getting off a train... ::) Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Tim on January 20, 2011, 17:40:02 quite, The guard and driver would be changing ends and there would be other passengers about.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: noddingdonkey on January 20, 2011, 18:23:46 I've never changed ends at Torquay!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: inspector_blakey on January 20, 2011, 19:00:10 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Couple-s-alarm-lack-night-cover-rail-station/article-3106528-detail/article.html): Quote "We both felt very vulnerable wandering about in the dark, trying to decide what to do before we remembered to use a mobile phone to call a taxi." !!! ::) Are these people safe to be travelling the country unattended in that case? How the hell would the station being staffed have got them home any more quickly? Was a member of staff supposed to be on duty so that they could remind said couple that the standard procedure on arriving at a railway station is to find some sort of transport to your ultimate destination, which may involve calling a taxi? Edited to add... Having checked the comments section on the Herald Express website it doesn't really look like the balance of opinion is in favour of this couple, putting things politely! Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on January 20, 2011, 19:45:26 It's Torquay.
Full of grumpy OAPs who have nothing else to do but moan about how awful everything is. It will never change! Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: SDS on January 21, 2011, 00:13:29 Surprised they didnt moan about the lack of the Saga Lout ticket. "We travelled last year and it only cost us xx, yet this year its cost us even more, blah blah moan moan,"
.... [sic] but we remembered to buy advance tickets using our computer. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: vacman on January 21, 2011, 23:10:28 The majority of people passing through Torquay in the evening spend approximately 30 seconds on the station before exiting at the gate by the car park, having staff about would be a waste of time. Might improve ticket revenue though, eh? Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on January 22, 2011, 15:25:05 The majority of people passing through Torquay in the evening spend approximately 30 seconds on the station before exiting at the gate by the car park, having staff about would be a waste of time. Might improve ticket revenue though, eh? Considering the fact that the main flow is out of the station I doubt it would make much difference. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Trowres on January 22, 2011, 22:27:26 Right, all you who poke fun at these people; two points:
1) How confident are you of maintaining physical and mental faculties into old age? 2) I've noticed a marked reluctance among some senior citizens to use the railway, even though they had good reason (and funds!) to do so. In spite of SC railcards, there don't seem to be many SC's on trains where I live...people who could be using off-peak trains and reducing the need for subsidy. We have the crazy situation that big money is spent on making stations accessible for the "disabled", but peanuts on sorting out the barriers to travel for a large section of population. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: readytostart on January 23, 2011, 10:48:26 I've never changed ends at Torquay! Took me a while to wonder why you put that, then I realised it's just a stop on the way to Paignton! Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: winterbourne on January 23, 2011, 11:20:30 What if they stepped off a coach then? ???
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: LiskeardRich on January 23, 2011, 13:58:00 From the Herald Express (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Couple-s-alarm-lack-night-cover-rail-station/article-3106528-detail/article.html): Quote trying to decide what to do before we remembered to use a mobile phone to call a taxi." my favourite bit, how can you forget you have a mobile phone to ring a taxi with, thats what i'd of done 10 mins before arrival, so i dont have to wait around when i get there, straight into taxi from train Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: devon_metro on January 23, 2011, 14:14:33 Not to mention the numerous taxis that often wait outside on the station forecourt.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 14, 2011, 17:41:05 From the BTP press release (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/SuperMail/BRITISH-TRANSPORT-POLICE-APPEAL-FOR-WITNESSES-AFTER-ATTEMPTED-ROBBERY-TORRE-1350.aspx):
Quote BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE APPEAL FOR WITNESSES AFTER ATTEMPTED ROBBERY ^ TORRE British Transport Police (BTP) detectives investigating an alleged attempted robbery at Torre railway station in Devon are appealing for witnesses to come forward. BTP received a call shortly after 7pm on Saturday 12 February that two teenage girls had been approached by a man who tried to grab one of the girls^ handbags at Torre railway station. The girls, aged 16 and 17, boarded a train towards Exeter St David^s but the man alleged to have attempted to steal the bag also boarded the same train. Officers from Devon and Cornwall Constabulary met the train when it arrived at Newton Abbot railway station and detained the man after he got off the train and ran towards the High Street. Detective Constable Dean Jeffery, of BTP, said: ^We are appealing for anyone who may have witnessed what happened at Torre railway station ^ particularly a teenage boy who was sat in the shelter on the platform next to the girls ^ to come forward. ^The incident took place between 6.45pm and 7pm on Saturday 12 February, so I would urge anyone who was at Torre station at that time, to come forward as you may have key information which can assist our investigation.^ A 22-year-old man from Newton Abbot arrested on suspicion of attempted robbery has been bailed to attend Torquay police station on Monday 28 February. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: noddingdonkey on February 14, 2011, 20:04:46 What a lovely part of the South West Torre station is.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: vacman on February 14, 2011, 20:13:58 What a lovely part of the South West Torre station is. didn't the Rev Pro team have an outing there last week?Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 14, 2011, 20:16:57 Socially, or as a sting, vacman? :P
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Super Guard on February 15, 2011, 00:46:01 What a lovely part of the South West Torre station is. didn't the Rev Pro team have an outing there last week?Only on empty 2 car services running on a Sunday when they're getting paid "extra" :-X Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: noddingdonkey on February 15, 2011, 14:45:35 How cynical of you Donkey Guard! Unfortunately true though, you don't see them on a Saturday night at Torre!
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: vacman on February 15, 2011, 20:02:24 apparently a few school kids were unhappy there the other morning? the ones from teignmouth who travel free every day were probably popular when they took a ^20 pf home to mummy......
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: grahame on March 16, 2011, 09:09:27 Quote 07:09 Paignton to St James' Park due 08:21 This train will be started from Newton Abbot.It will no longer call at: Paignton, Torquay and Torre.This is due to an earlier train fault. Service will be started at Newton Abbot due to 143603 failing with an NRN fault Is the extra data (on the train and fault reason) a new thing, or a leak from the staff systems to the public system? Personally, I like to be as informed as possible ... not sure about the typical customer. Must look up "NRN" ! Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Oxman on March 16, 2011, 09:54:37 National Radio Network (I think!). Allows emergency communications between signaller and driver.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 16, 2011, 10:20:06 Indeed: it's on our 'acronyms / abbreviations' page. ;)
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: gaf71 on March 16, 2011, 11:28:14 The train must have working NRN in cabs that are to be driven from, this is for the purpose of making/receiving emergency broadcasts primarily. Also used for contacting signaler at signals with limited clearance.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: readytostart on March 16, 2011, 12:18:59 If it's anything like the XC system (I believe GW and XC both utilise Tyrell) then someone has put the additional information that gets sent out to staff in the main body of the message, rather than where it's supposed to be.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Henry on March 16, 2011, 17:00:30 Makes you wonder how drivers/signallers managed when they only had signal post telephones. Progress I suppose. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 03, 2011, 23:26:17 From the BTP press release (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/DO-YOU-KNOW-THIS-MAN-POLICE-HUNT-MAN-WHO-ASSAULTED-TRAIN-GUARD-PAIGNTON-1666.aspx):
Quote DO YOU KNOW THIS MAN? POLICE HUNT MAN WHO ASSAULTED TRAIN GUARD ^ PAIGNTON British Transport Police (BTP) officers are calling on the public to help find a man who assaulted a train guard on board a train in Devon. Officers have today released CCTV images of a man they want to speak to in relation to the incident which happened between 3.13pm and 3.34pm on Saturday 16 July 2011 on board a train between Paignton and Newton Abbot. PC Steve Holliday, investigating officer, said: ^A group of about 10 men joined the 1513hrs Paignton to Exmouth train at Paignton railway station. During the journey, the female train guard was carrying out ticket checks when one of group of men slapped her bottom. Other members of group later apologised to the victim but the man who is believed to have slapped the guard said nothing. The group alighted at Newton Abbot at 3.34pm, although the guard believes they all had tickets to travel to Exeter. Enquiries are ongoing and we are now in the position to release CCTV images of a man we believe will have information which can assist the investigation. ^We are now calling on the public to help identify and locate him. Incidents such as this towards rail staff will not be tolerated and we will do everything in our power to find those responsible and take the appropriate action. But we need the public^s assistance. If you know the identity or whereabouts of the man in the photographs, I would urge you to contact BTP.^ Anyone with information which they believe can assist the investigation is asked to call British Transport Police on Freefone 0800 40 50 40, quoting incident number B5/WWA of 02/09/2011. Alternatively, you can call the independent charity Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111. Edit note: Images now removed due to expiry of copyright permission. CfN Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: 81F on September 04, 2011, 08:22:00 Torquay is my favourite place to visit for a few days of r and r, and I have been a regular visitor for a few years now. The station used to regularly have one or two helpful people in the booking office and another person on the platform helping passengers and dispatching trains for most of the day.
This year I have noticed that the number of staff has been cut back, and on occasions the booking clerk has to close the office, leaving a queue of people waiting while he goes to the platform to deal with the ramp for disabled passengers and dispatch the train. There also appears to be only one shift -- there weren't any staff at all after about 1600. Is Torquay destined to follow Torre and become an unstaffed halt? I do hope not! PS A good point -- there are clear dot-matrix departure indicators now instead of the hard-to-read TV screens, though still no announcements of departures. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: vacman on September 04, 2011, 17:26:34 typical gangs of drunken yobs that frequent the Paignton branch who think theyre funny but are just idiots.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: eightf48544 on September 05, 2011, 11:08:59 Is Torquay destined to follow Torre and become an unstaffed halt? I do hope not!
Probably. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 05, 2011, 22:23:49 Purely in the interests of continuity and background information, I've taken the opportunity to merge a couple of very similar topics here ... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 25, 2011, 01:18:10 From the British Transport Police press release (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/BRITISH-TRANSPORT-POLICE-APPEAL-FOR-INFORMATION-AFTER-ANTI-SOCIAL-BEHAVIOUR-ON-TRAIN-NEWTON-ABBOT-TORRE-17b9.aspx):
Quote BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE APPEAL FOR INFORMATION AFTER ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR ON TRAIN ^ NEWTON ABBOT/TORRE British Transport Police (BTP) officers are appealing for information after a man refused to pay for his fare subjected a member train conductor to abuse on board a train in Devon. Officers have today released a CCTV image of a man they want to identify and speak to in connection with the incident which took place on a train between Newton Abbot and Torre railway stations at around 1.40pm on Friday, 7 October 2011. Investigating officer, PC Michael Stupple, said: ^The female guard on board the 1303hrs Exeter St Davids to Paignton service was checking tickets on the service when she encountered a man who had no ticket and refused to pay for one. He then subjected the guard to a torrent of abuse repeatedly swearing at her. This was also head by other passengers on board the train.^ The man was in the company of another man, who paid his fare and caused the guard no issues. Both of the men, who also had dogs with them, got on the train at Newton Abbot rail station PC Stupple added: ^After viewing CCTV images from on board the train, I would like to identify and speak to the man in these photographs as I believe he will have information which can assist. The man we would like to speak to also had a dog with him which is described as a brown Staffordshire Bull Terrier with dark markings. ^Anti-social behaviour towards rail staff is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Staff have the right to go about their duties without being subjected to abuse or aggression from passengers. Similarly, other passengers should not be subjected to foul language or anti-social behaviour from others.^ Anyone with information is asked to contact British Transport Police on 0800 40 50 40, quoting incident number B5/WWA of 24/11/2011, or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111. Edit note: Images now removed due to expiry of copyright permission. CfN Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 09, 2013, 10:59:49 From the Torquay Herald Express (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/story-20057177-detail/story.html?):
Quote Extra trains on the Riviera Line (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276409/Article/images/20057177/5471308-large.jpg) Rail passengers are set to benefit from more frequent trains on the Riviera Line between Newton Abbot, Torre, Torquay and Paignton from December 9, thanks to European funding. There will be four extra trains each way between Newton Abbot and Paignton, calling at Torre and Torquay. There will also be two new stopping services each way between Exeter St Davids and Paignton, and more connections at Newton Abbot with main line trains to and from Exeter, Plymouth, Bristol and London. The improved service is thanks to an EU project called Citizens' Rail to develop local and regional railways in the UK, France, Germany and the Netherlands. Along with the extra trains, improvements will be made to stations on the Riviera Line between Paignton and Exeter, a major marketing campaign, work to involve the community in the line and a new officer employed at the Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership to coordinate activities. The project is 50 per cent funded by the EU's INTERREG IVB programme. Local partners include Devon County Council, Torbay Council, First Great Western, Plymouth University and the Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership. The aim is for two trains an hour, said Cllr Andrew Leadbetter, Devon County Council Cabinet member for economy and growth. He said: "We know from local experience that having more frequent trains is key to attracting new passengers. We hope that, as patronage grows, services can develop to meet our aim of two trains an hour between Exeter and Paignton." Torbay Council's highways spokesman Cllr Ray Hill, said: "This is a major step forward for Torbay's railway, the Riviera Line. We welcome the extra journeys which complements the work already undertaken between Torbay Council and First Great Western, providing improvements to the appearance of the stations. Not only will they make local public transport journeys even more convenient, they will also mean easier and more reliable connections to main line services to travel up and down the country. This is vital in attracting rail passengers to come and visit Torbay." Project Manager, Richard Burningham of the Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership said: "By being part of this international project, we will be able to learn from rail expertise from across North West Europe. A big part of Citizens' Rail is about getting people involved with their railway. Local residents and community organisations will be asked what improvements they would like to see and there will also be lots of opportunities too for volunteers to get involved, from lending their gardening skills to helping with redecorating." The new timetable and further information about the project is available at www.citizensrail.org/devon or by calling 01752 584777. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: JayMac on November 09, 2013, 18:16:19 Highly unlikely that any of these extra trains will be Class 180s, and they certainly won't be in the livery featured in the accompanying picture. ::)
Any West Country journalists or copy editors out there who would like some up to date pictures of passenger rolling stock in use on the Greater Western network, do drop me a line. You can have some of mine for nothing more than picture credit. ;) Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: grahame on November 09, 2013, 18:20:33 Highly unlikely that any of these extra trains will be Class 180s,... 27 classes less, in fact ... Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: noddingdonkey on November 11, 2013, 17:38:32 or even 37.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: chuffed on November 11, 2013, 18:19:02 or even 59 if they get really hard up ! Be nice if they could get steam railmotor 93 and trailer !
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: JayMac on November 12, 2013, 00:22:27 or even 59 if they get really hard up! Class 121 bubble cars? Nice idea, but working examples are getting harder to come by. Be happy with your 143s. ;D Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 24, 2013, 12:47:45 From the Bristol Post (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Suicidal-man-caused-havoc-left-Bristol-Rovers/story-20169102-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_bristolpost):
Quote Suicidal man 'caused havoc' and left Bristol Rovers fans stranded in Exeter when he threatened to jump off bridge A suicidal man left hundreds of Bristol Rovers fans stranded in Exeter on the first day of the football season when he threatened to jump from a bridge onto a main line. Jeremy Stewart tried to jump off the same bridge in Torbay twice in the space of a few weeks and injured a police officer who tried to stop him. He caused 12 trains to be cancelled on August 5 and caused havoc for trains in the South West after services were cancelled. A judge ordered he should receive help from the probation service after hearing how he was suicidal at the time. Stewart, aged 40, of Bay View, Paignton, admitted trespassing on the railway and disrupting trains on August 3 and causing actual bodily harm to Sergeant John Branwell during the earlier incident on July 27. He was made subject of a community order under which she will receive supervision from the probation service for 12 months. Judge Francis Gilbert, QC, told him:^I understand the circumstances in which this happened and accept you did not intend to hurt the police officer but were reckless when you did so.^ Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: phile on November 24, 2013, 16:59:27 Highly unlikely that any of these extra trains will be Class 180s, and they certainly won't be in the livery featured in the accompanying picture. ::) Will be 153s.Any West Country journalists or copy editors out there who would like some up to date pictures of passenger rolling stock in use on the Greater Western network, do drop me a line. You can have some of mine for nothing more than picture credit. ;) Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: grahame on December 06, 2013, 14:20:00 Launch party in the local paper ...
http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/Pastries-giveaway-train-connections-hour-launched/story-20263937-detail/story.html#axzz2mhjJ3sCS Quote Pastries giveaway as two train connections an hour launched THE dream of two train connections an hour in South Devon begins on Monday. A year on from the launch of an EU project, Torbay is one of the first areas nationally to benefit from the Citizens' Rail project. And passengers will get free European pastries at Paignton station to mark the launch. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 30, 2014, 22:22:27 From the Torquay Herald Express (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Tulips-help-brighten-rail-station/story-20858146-detail/story.html):
Quote Tulips help brighten Torquay railway station Torquay railway station is being brightened up with Dutch tulips. The ROC community gardening group has continued its transformation of the station, planting tulips donated by the EU Citizens' Rail project. The First Great Western Station Adoption project gives people with learning disabilities the opportunity to learn new skills and to work towards a nationally recognised qualification. The group's weekly gardening work at Torquay station was shortlisted in the Best Social Enterprise and Community Impact category of the Herald Express Business Awards. Learner David Maltby said of the project: "I love doing it, it's so brilliant." The work on the station rockery has been supported by funding from Citizens' Rail, the EU project to develop local and regional railways including the line between Torbay and Exeter. Now the spirit of international cooperation has seen the group planting Dutch tulips donated on a recent visit by Paul Alzer from Citizens' Rail's Dutch partner Parkstad Limburg, a region near the southern border with Germany and Belgium. Nicky Church, ROC personalisation manager, said: "The people who we support have devoted their time, enthusiasm and sheer hard work into this project and are doing so with a view to gaining the necessary skills and experience to get a job." Celia Minoughan, Citizens' Rail Riviera Line officer for the Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership, said: "The group were delighted with the bulbs, and it was great to hear their plans to expand the project and bring more colour to all of Torbay's stations in future." Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Rapidash on July 11, 2014, 18:30:04 Horrid Express (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Green-light-pound-7m-road-rail-works/story-21348988-detail/story.html)
^600,000 for new rail halts at Edginswell, Torquay and Marsh Barton in Exeter, adding to the funding already received via the Local Transport Board as part of the Devon Metro scheme which will strengthen Torbay's transport links with Exeter, Exmouth and the national network. The new rail stations will cost ^5.4million. Not entirely sure if that means the Edginswell station is ready to go or if they are still waiting on additional funding. Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 20, 2014, 19:40:04 From the Torquay Herald Express (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/pound-2-6m-plan-transform-town-s-railway-station/story-24569721-detail/story.html):
Quote ^2.6m plan to transform Paignton's railway station (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276409/Article/images/24569721/8185520-large.jpg) UPGRADE PLANS: Paignton railway station ANDY UGLOW, PYRAMID TORBAY PHOTOGRAPHY A ^2.6 million plan to breath new life into Paignton railway station has been unveiled. Torbay Council and First Great Western are drawing up the proposals which would transform the town centre station. Torbay has made a bid for Growth Fund cash towards the scheme. A council spokesman said the work involved a general upgrade of the station building and facilities. A spokesman said: "Exact details haven't been drawn up, but it is likely to include a redesigned ticket hall/entrance, better connectivity to the bus station, improved waiting area and other general improvements. We are aware the footbridge at the station is currently under refurbishment and this work is being carried out by Network Rail. A bid has been submitted to the Local Growth Fund through the Local Enterprise Partnership regarding a larger refurbishment for the station. The bid was for ^1.5million to cover a scheme of around ^2.4million. The remainder of the cost (^0.9million) will be met by private investment. We will know if this has been successful early in 2015." A First Great Western spokesman said: "Paignton is an important station for us. It has a footfall of 590,000 passengers a year and provides connectivity to and from the wider Torbay area. We have recently enhanced services to Paignton, to provide two trains an hour during a typical weekday ^ an extra 300 seats a day. These services prove our commitment to the line." Matthew Dart, Paignton town centre manager, said: "I think it's great they have decided to spend money on Paignton. The bus station has already been improved and Dartmouth Steam Railway has improved its station so it is all coming together. I think Paignton is starting to get noticed now. We have a great transport hub in the town centre with the buses, taxis, trains and steam trains all within five minutes walk of the seafront and seconds from the shops. Hopefully, it will encourage bigger companies to come here and open up." Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 20, 2014, 19:57:46 Also from the Torquay Herald Express (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Historic-English-Riviera-rail-stations-restored/story-24560125-detail/story.html):
Quote Historic English Riviera rail stations restored (http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276409/Article/images/24560125/8177688-large.jpg) Torquay Railway Station, from left; Richard Sutton TDA, Steve Brimacombe JSS Rail Ltd and Torquay Mayor Gordon Oliver. Passengers travelling along the Riviera Line that links Exeter with Torbay are set to benefit from a more pleasant travelling experience as Network Rail and First Great Western continue their revamp of stations along this route. Since 2012, Torbay Council has been working with the companies to refurbish and aesthetically enhance stations along this line by restoring their historic infrastructure and redecorating them in the traditional Riviera colours of poppy red, holly green and honeysuckle cream. Details of this work are as follows: Torre station ^ in 2012 the station^s Grade II listed footbridge was refurbished as were the platform canopies in 2013. The station was also redecorated. Paignton station ^ earlier this year work started to refurbish the station^s footbridge and platform canopies. This work will shortly be completed and the station will also be redecorated. Torquay station ^ work has now started to refurbish the station^s Grade II listed footbridge, platform canopies and forecourt canopies. In additional to the Riviera colours, metallic gold will also feature as Torquay uses this additional embellishment. This work is due to be completed in May 2015. Torbay^s Mayor, Gordon Oliver, said: ^I am pleased to welcome the next stage of Network Rail^s work at Torquay station which follows their excellent renovation of the road bridge last year. The partnership that we have created to address long standing challenges is now transforming this historic environment. This work follows the national recognition the station received when the community group ROC Aspects and First Great Western were praised for their stunning work on the station landscaping.^ Simon Gyde, Network Rail^s asset manager for the Western route, said: ^This work is not only necessary to extend the life of these footbridges and canopies, but also to improve the environment of these stations for the 1.2m people who use the Riviera Line each year. We have worked closely with First Great Western and Torbay Council to ensure that the renovation of these historic buildings is sensitively undertaken and to minimise any disruption while work is taking place. I would like to thank passengers for their continued patience and hope that once completed, this work will enhance their travelling experience and help to improve the running of these stations.^ Dan Okey, First Great Western^s regional development manager for the west, said: ^We have been working hard with our partners in Devon and Cornwall to invest and provide the improvements we know our passengers want to see. This investment will also see us increase services from Paignton to two an hour, providing an extra 300 seats per weekday from December this year. In addition, future plans will see us improve facilities at both Torre and Exeter St Thomas stations, allowing passengers to take better advantage of the full range of services that we offer.^ Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Rapidash on November 20, 2014, 20:53:17 Stone the crows, an appropriate image in both ;D
Paignton is my local station, so I'm really pleased that improvements will be going ahead. Any ideas about those extra 300 seats up to Exeter? In my befuddled brain, I have assumed that these are the Newton Abbot shuttles being extended the full distance. Or are they cunningly knocking a 153 off a 143 somewhere for an extra run or two? Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Rapidash on December 05, 2014, 19:02:43 The concrete
Edit note: strikethrough marks amended, for clarity. CfN. :) Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: RichardB on December 09, 2014, 20:47:23 Today, we celebrated the first anniversary of the additional Newton Abbot - Paignton trains
Details and lots of photos here - http://www.citizensrail.org/anniversary-of-improved-torbay-train-service/ We made BBC Spotlight tonight too. If you're quick, you can see the piece here (starts at 09 mins 51 secs) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04tc6b1 Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: RichardB on December 09, 2014, 20:48:44 And I'm delighted to say that the brick shelter on the Upside at Torre has been demolished in the last few days - replacement going in very soon.
Title: Re: Paignton Branch: Newton Abbot to Torbay - Torre, Torquay and Paignton (merged topic) Post by: Rapidash on December 15, 2014, 22:07:39 Both concrete shelters at St James have now been subject to the sort of urban renewel associated with large sledgehammers and flamethrowers.
A somewhat confused sounding American gent was directing affairs when I was waiting there the other day - think he was confused by all the 'St's station names ;D He did manage to get a key to the poster holders, so he was doing okay! Ironically, I was waiting there on the coldest, rainiest day in ages. Could have done with that shelter! ;D This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |