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Sideshoots - associated subjects => The West - but NOT trains in the West => Topic started by: smithy on June 01, 2009, 18:47:57



Title: SWT trains?
Post by: smithy on June 01, 2009, 18:47:57
heard a rumour FGW are to recieve at least 1 but maybe 2 SWT 158's this summer not sure if short or long term hire.

no idea what they are going to be working though.

can anyone confirm if the rumour i heard is correct?


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 01, 2009, 19:00:10
it could be true swt doesnt need all its 159's until the december timetable and i belive they are due 3 more in addition to the 8 159/1s that they already have


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: devon_metro on June 01, 2009, 19:24:07
heard a rumour FGW are to recieve at least 1 but maybe 2 SWT 158's this summer not sure if short or long term hire.

no idea what they are going to be working though.

can anyone confirm if the rumour i heard is correct?

They were meant to be doing the adex to Weymouth. Apparently not.


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: Btline on June 01, 2009, 19:32:10
SWT have units to throw away, seeing as they are going to use 158s for Lymington... >:(


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: devon_metro on June 01, 2009, 19:34:14
You know that as a fact?


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 01, 2009, 20:03:20
nothing is set in stone for Lymington


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: paul7575 on June 01, 2009, 21:34:29
it could be true swt doesnt need all its 159's until the december timetable and i belive they are due 3 more in addition to the 8 159/1s that they already have

I've been following the SWT DMU changes for a few years now, and have never heard of that at all!
3 More daily 159 diagrams in December might make sense though, along with however many extra 158s.

I think there may be a transfer of 158s from Scotrail to Northern on the agenda though...

Paul


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 01, 2009, 21:38:49
infact am i correct in thinking there are some plastic pigs in storage


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: Btline on June 01, 2009, 23:13:04
You know that as a fact?
nothing is set in stone for Lymington
:)


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 01, 2009, 23:44:43
what i dont understand is that there are 8 centre carrages (58701^717) from former 3 car 158/0s which for what ever reason were removed , where have they gone?

out of the 17 3 car 158's that were built 1 is with fgw (apparently?) 8 were converted to 159 now with swt and 8 are now 2 car units

as for the 3 extra 159/1's ive read it somewhere hold tight i will find it again


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: smithy on June 02, 2009, 19:42:24
what i dont understand is that there are 8 centre carrages (58701^717) from former 3 car 158/0s which for what ever reason were removed , where have they gone?

out of the 17 3 car 158's that were built 1 is with fgw (apparently?) 8 were converted to 159 now with swt and 8 are now 2 car units

as for the 3 extra 159/1's ive read it somewhere hold tight i will find it again

did the 3 cars go to EMT then end up being taken out and sent to northern for strengthening of there 2 cars?


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: devon_metro on June 02, 2009, 20:01:39
They went to Northern (sadly ;))


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: paul7575 on June 02, 2009, 20:06:29
The 158 centre car locations are all mixed up:

SWT have:
159101 (158800)   58717
159102 (158803)   58703
159103 (158804)   58704
159104 (158805)   58705
159105 (158807)   58707
159106 (158809)   58709
159107 (158811)   58711
159108 (158801)   58701
FGW has:
158798 58715
Northern have:
158752  58716 
158753  58710 
158754  58708 
158755  58702 
158756  58712 
158757  58706 
158758  58714 
158759  58713

Which means the only TOC that can provide three more 159/1s would be Northern. Would this be at all likely?

Paul


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 02, 2009, 20:52:13
i cant find where i read this, i think it was some obscure yeovil commity memo that was calling for a few trains a day from exeter to run threw yeovil junction to pen mill and on to paddington.... i will find it its quite an amusing read im guessing its wrong about 3 more 159's

thankyou for confirming that fgw had a 3 car 158 that is not a hybrid


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: Timmer on June 03, 2009, 21:56:05
SWT have units to throw away, seeing as they are going to use 158s for Lymington... >:(
I think one or two SWT 158s are still with EMT whilst their 158s are going through refurb so yes at the moment SWT appear to be the only TOC who do have DMUs going spare but that will probably change in December when hourly Waterloo-Exeter services commence.


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: cereal_basher on June 04, 2009, 19:00:06
SWT recently took the two hired out 158s back and only sent one back to EMT in return.


Title: Re: SWT trains?
Post by: anthony215 on August 07, 2009, 22:21:34
SWT are to stop running trains to Paington from December 2009 and to cover  for this First Great Western are to extend their Cardiff - Taunton services through to Paington and some dmus are to be replaced by another  2 loco hauled trains.




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