Title: Oliver Cromwell Post by: moonrakerz on May 31, 2009, 09:45:17 Yesterday evening between Dilton Marsh & Upton Scudamore. Very impressive sight - even more impressive sound !!!!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/17e0b5.jpg) Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: John R on May 31, 2009, 11:39:08 It was quite surreal departing Temple Meads just before 5pm last night with Tornado waiting to head south and then immediately passing Oliver Cromwell simmering in the sidings at Bedminster.
Great picure, by the way. Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: thetrout on May 31, 2009, 15:59:54 Just because I am a sad person who perhaps needs to get a life... ;D :P ;)
That Brake Composite Corridor immediately behind Oliver Cromwell is a rather rare site... They weren't very many about at all! :o Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: devon_metro on May 31, 2009, 16:21:22 Do you wish to make any comments regarding the rare bogies too? ;)
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: Electric train on May 31, 2009, 16:46:50 Do you wish to make any comments regarding the rare bogies too? ;) Oh you mean the Commonwealth bogie's instead of the more common B4 bogie's both of which have SKF or Timkin roller bearings coil springs and not leaf springs and white metal journal bearings of the B1 Boigie, it's been the 30 years since I worked on Carriage and Wagon. Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: inspector_blakey on May 31, 2009, 17:19:39 I wouldn't have said Commonwealth bogies were exactly rare. In fact they became more and more common towards the end of loco-hauled mark1 stock because BR kept hold of the commonwealths and got rid of the older B1 and variants. I've heard various stories from preservationists who were involved with procuring mark 1s from BR in the early 80s to the effect that it was impossible to purchase any stock with commonwealths because BR would swap the bogies for B1s before parting with the vehicle!
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: moonrakerz on May 31, 2009, 18:13:08 OK then ! all you experts, let's see how good your powers of observation are - what is "wrong" with the Brake Composite Corridor immediately behind the loco? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: BBM on June 01, 2009, 10:28:44 OK then ! all you experts, let's see how good your powers of observation are - what is "wrong" with the Brake Composite Corridor immediately behind the loco? ;D ;D Is it that's there's no figure '1' on the door to the first class area? (the door to the left of the guard's door) Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: inspector_blakey on June 01, 2009, 12:21:47 It's painted in some silly Great Western colour scheme... ;) :P
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: moonrakerz on June 01, 2009, 12:32:40 BBM is getting close - literally !
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: devon_metro on June 01, 2009, 12:38:50 Did loco hauled Mk1s not have the seating bay with a door in the middle? (akin to VEPs)
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: inspector_blakey on June 01, 2009, 12:55:51 Not as far as I know - although corridor stock does have a centre door this is in a gap between two compartments (so, for example, in an SK the compartments are in two groups of four, with a transverse corridor separating them that gives access to the longitudinal corridor running the length of the vehicle).
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: moonrakerz on June 01, 2009, 18:39:19 Getting warmer ! ;D
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 01, 2009, 18:48:21 yellow strip at the top....
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: IndustryInsider on June 02, 2009, 11:26:42 This isn't the answer, but it looks like the bogies on the coaches have all been photoshopped about 3 feet forward from where they should be on the carriage bodies. Optical illusion or what?
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: Tim on June 02, 2009, 13:18:43 I thought that was just because they were travelling so fast the vehicle bodies hadn't caught up yet :)
Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: moonrakerz on June 06, 2009, 08:51:38 Interesting comments !
I was informed that there is a small window "missing" between the two vertically divided windows at the front of the coach. There appears to be 2 pairs of "vents" ?, but only one window. PS: I do have photoshop - but didn't move the bogies ! Title: Re: Oliver Cromwell Post by: smokey on June 06, 2009, 11:30:24 I think you have been Mis-informed.
The only thing I see wrong on the BCK, (offical tittle Corrider Brake Composite, don't ask me way it's not CBK), is as the Paint livery has a Yellow band above the 1st class comparments there should be a yellow "1" on the passenger door next to the Guards door. The use of a telephoto lens does make things slightly unclear. All MK 1 doors with a Window were hinged on the Left Hand Side, whilst Double Doors always had a Solid door on the Right, and the Left Hand Door HAD to be opened before the Right hand door could be opened, so there was NO need for a drop light in the Right hand doors, which were only fitted in the "Cage" area anyway. Even the Guards door was Left Hand hinged but as it opened inwards, it might appear to be a right hand door with a window. The "Vents" are in Fact Door Hinges. The BCKs No 21000-21275 were built to two Diagrams 171 (12 first/18 Second) and 172 (12 first/24 Second) and the fleet of 276 coaches were built for ONE coach working, in the days when express trains had detachments. NB They had 2 toilets (1 First Class) not bad for 30/36 seats. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |