Title: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: devonian on May 27, 2009, 07:07:59 For anyone living in Barnstaple or who knows it better than I do...
What are the chances of me making a 2030 bus departure from Belle Meadow from a train that is due to arrive at 2010? What happens if the train is late? Thanks Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Feckham on May 27, 2009, 10:14:27 Hi
Bus departing for where exactly? ie does it then also pass the train station on its way from Belle Meadow. What is the final destination? So many combinations, before can comment on more Fecks Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on May 27, 2009, 10:42:40 I presume you're trying to get the 308 to Croyde? If the train's on time you should have no problem - it takes me 13 minutes to walk, and I tend to dawdle on the Longbridge.
If you miss it there's a 2110 Service 3 to Braunton, and you should be able to book a taxi from the George Hotel. Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: devonian on May 27, 2009, 18:15:35 Yeah - I'm heading for Croyde (well, Putsborough to be precise - but that's a walk!).
THanks for the info! Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: RichieG on February 23, 2010, 22:53:44 Haven't been to Barnstaple station for a while (last time I was at Barnstaple itself it was a training thing at the college...) but was asked this by a work colleague this morning.
She noticed that the old second platform has a white line painted at the edge, and wondered if I knew a reason why. Unfortunately, I do not - and as I said, haven't been to BNP (as an aside, unfortunate station code... do the trains there lean to the right?) for a while so don't know what the actual situation with the white line is. I assume it's to mark the edge of the platform but anybody know what the reason why this line has been painted on here? Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Mookiemoo on February 23, 2010, 23:03:22 http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&q=barnstaple&fb=1&ei=F16ES_DBHKWQjAfWt5GWCg&ved=0CBUQpQY&hl=en&view=map&geocode=FYZtCwMdjBPC_w&split=0&iwloc=A&sa=X
Looking at it, unless its been painted recently - just looks like a copy of the main platforms white line Although I have never been CLOSE to barstaple so I comment on how out of date the aerials are! Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: RichardB on February 24, 2010, 09:25:48 The second platform is being adopted by the Tarka Rail Association and the white line has been repainted purely as a small safety measure.
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: RailCornwall on February 24, 2010, 10:42:46 Very old Google Maps pics, not a sign of the Barnstaple Bypass in construction, let alone open. It opened in May 2007.
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on February 24, 2010, 10:44:34 Looking at it, unless its been painted recently - just looks like a copy of the main platforms white line I wouldn't rely on Google Maps for that sort of detail - it doesn't even show the bridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnstaple_Western_Bypass) that opened in May 2007! Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: grahame on February 24, 2010, 12:27:57 Google maps of our home street show the satellite image as of 6th June 2006 (+- 2 days)
Off topic suggestion - have a look at Calstock viaduct - the shadows are beautiful Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Mookiemoo on February 24, 2010, 13:04:04 Mine have been updated as well - now shows the koi pond
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: The SprinterMeister on February 24, 2010, 13:05:51 There are no plans that I am aware of to reinstate track onto the second platform. Now if you were going to run decent length locohauleds down there you would have to dig up some of that lovely new car park in order to reinstate the headshunt and run round via the former down platform that was removed circa 1991, possibly using redundant assets from Lapford. Only problem is that the line speed for locohauleds is 30mph throughout due to condition of track and various underline river bridges en route. It's a nice thought though........
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: RichieG on February 24, 2010, 22:11:43 So it's an 'elf n safe tea measure then is it? Seems rather pointless but at least it explains it! I know that there aren't any plans to reinstate the second platform - apart from anything else, there is little point in having a two-line terminus on a line that's mostly one track.
It would be nice to run some loco hauled trains up the Barnstaple branch... or at least the Barnstaple to Paddington HSTs that FGW promised then subsequently seemed to forget when they got the franchise giving us Pacers instead :p (having said that, I know that the reason why they haven't is due to the line quality in some places up there and that there is weight restrictions on the line... still a nice thought though!) (As it happens, I did think of a plan for the Barnstaple line a while ago that will never ever come to fruition in a million millenia... that is to reinstate the second track along its whole length - in a lot of places the basic infrastructure is still there but would need repair - but run the two tracks as separate lines. One to be an 'express' service with London (and oop north) trains on it, stopping only at Barnstaple, possibly Eggesford (I'm not sure if the 'legal' reason for Eggesford station's existence is still in place but it wouldn't surprise me if it is) and Crediton (then onto Exeter and beyond) and the other line the slow line to run pretty much as the branch does at the moment. Nice idea, completely implausible and impractical!) Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: RichardB on February 24, 2010, 23:26:33 Richie,
As a close watcher of the scene, I can tell you FGW never promised Barnstaple - Paddington HSTs. If Wessex Trains had been allowed to absorb the Waterloo - Exeter line, they promised Waterloo - Barnstaple Cl 159s, but it was decided to go for the franchise we have today instead. Removing the Waterloo - Exeter line from South West Trains was the sticking point. That proposal was very unpopular along that route. The white line on Platform 2 is a small, pretty inexpensive safety measure. It's not "elf n safe tea" gone mad"! Some hope that Platform 2 may be back in use one day. Who knows, one day they might be right. Richard Burningham Devon & Cornwall Rail Partnership Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on February 25, 2010, 08:10:44 reinstate the second track along its whole length You can't 'reinstate' something that never existed - although all the bridges along the line were built for double track it was mostly single track - the only doubled sections were between Barnstaple and Umberleigh, and from Coleford Junction to Cowley Bridge. Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: RichieG on February 25, 2010, 20:47:26 Richie, Blimey charlie, keep your hat on!!! When the local press say that 'Barnstaple could see trains to London Paddington' then I would assume that it would be an HST service! Admittedly, this was in the local freebe paper, but with the ND Journal saying similar in its headlines (but probably more accurate in the article as to which London terminal it would be to) can you blame me for getting it wrong - especially as I was not as into the railway scene as I am now, and know that HSTs have visited Barnstaple in the past. Reading your post I can see what has happened and why it has happened. And of course, Barnstaple to Waterloo is much more historic than Barnstaple to Paddington!*As a close watcher of the scene, I can tell you FGW never promised Barnstaple - Paddington HSTs. If Wessex Trains had been allowed to absorb the Waterloo - Exeter line, they promised Waterloo - Barnstaple Cl 159s, but it was decided to go for the franchise we have today instead. Removing the Waterloo - Exeter line from South West Trains was the sticking point. That proposal was very unpopular along that route. The white line on Platform 2 is a small, pretty inexpensive safety measure. It's not "elf n safe tea" gone mad"! Some hope that Platform 2 may be back in use one day. Who knows, one day they might be right. Richard Burningham Devon & Cornwall Rail Partnership I am still of the opinion that the white line isn't completely necessary and is just a bit of pointless H&S but I am prepared to back down on that - after all, I asked its purpose and was answered. However, I do not see any reason why - unless the line is extended to Bideford again (which I personally doubt will happen with Sticklepath roundabout in the way - even though supposedly the roundabout is built in such a way as to allow the extention the evidence of that I cannot see!) where the station can be used as a passing loop. You can't 'reinstate' something that never existed - although all the bridges along the line were built for double track it was mostly single track - the only doubled sections were between Barnstaple and Umberleigh, and from Coleford Junction to Cowley Bridge. OK, simple syntax error there. I am aware that the line wasn't dual track along its whole length, though I believe that it was further north than Cowley Bridge but hey ho! I also know that the infrastructure was set up for dual track at some point during the 20s I believe, but that this was never provided.* Just so people know, I do realise that Barnstaple was served from both Waterloo and Paddington during its heyday, but being an LSWR station it is more historic to be Waterloo! Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: John R on February 25, 2010, 21:42:34 Blimey charlie, keep your hat on!!! Richard B seemed quite polite in his response. Maybe it's your hat that needs holding down. Quote OK, simple syntax error there. I am aware that the line wasn't dual track along its whole length, though I believe that it was further north than Cowley Bridge but hey ho! I also know that the infrastructure was set up for dual track at some point during the 20s I believe, but that this was never provided. A syntax error is a grammatical mistake to do with the structure of the sentence, whereas I think yours was a plain error. You can't reinstate something that was never there. Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: devon_metro on February 25, 2010, 22:02:09 On a (sort of) related note, I notice that SWT have withdrawn resevations on their Exeter to London services!!
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on February 25, 2010, 23:05:25 I am aware that the line wasn't dual track along its whole length, though I believe that it was further north than Cowley Bridge Coleford Junction *is* further north than Cowley Bridge (it's the former junction for the Okehampton line). Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: The SprinterMeister on March 02, 2010, 20:36:09 reinstate the second track along its whole length You can't 'reinstate' something that never existed - although all the bridges along the line were built for double track it was mostly single track - the only doubled sections were between Barnstaple and Umberleigh, and from Coleford Junction to Cowley Bridge. The double track section in fact went as far as Copplestone at the Exeter end of the line. All the earthworks / structures from Coleford Jn to Umberleigh were altered to allow the second line to be laid (having been built as a single broad gauge line) but the LSWR & GWR then decided to stop competing for the North Devon traffic on their respective routes in about 1906. They pooled their receipts and split the proceeds instead. The double line thus stopped at Copplestone & Umberleigh with passing loops retained at all the intermediate stations. Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: JayMac on August 26, 2010, 19:04:34 From the North Devon Journal (http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/environment/Floral-prizes-station-volunteers/article-2563722-detail/article.html):
Quote Barnstaple railway station has been awarded first place in the best kept station category as part of the Tarka Line Flowers Competition. The competition, which rewards the efforts of volunteers who tend to stations along the Tarka line, is organised by the Tarka Rail Association and is funded partly by sponsorship from First Great Western. Volunteer Janet Day picked up the award for her floral displays at Barnstaple station while Andy Hedges picked up the best wildlife conservation award for his work at Umberleigh station. His restoration of the old concrete Umberleigh station sign and an outstanding display of roses helped him to win the accolade. John Phillips, chairman of the Tarka Rail Association, said: "I should like to thank all those who give up their free time to make our stations attractive for passengers who I know very much appreciate the efforts made." Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on April 10, 2011, 11:01:37 Just in case anybody wanders by this thread, from Good Friday (22 April 2011) until August Bank Holiday there will be an hourly (two-hourly on Sundays and Bank Holidays) Open Top service from Barnstaple Station to Braunton, Saunton and Croyde.
Details here (http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/southwest/devon/special_services/?item=1691&show=1). Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on November 26, 2011, 01:18:51 No, I've never heard of them, either.
But we won something - "Best Small Station": http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/travel_alerts.asp?action=view&news_id=1247 (http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/travel_alerts.asp?action=view&news_id=1247) Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 28, 2011, 23:56:10 From the FGW press release:
Quote BARNSTAPLE STATION WINS INTERNATIONAL AWARD Barnstaple Station has been awarded Best Small International Station at the Translink International Station Awards in Cork, Ireland. The competition rewards the effort and commitment of railway stations who have worked hard to provide excellent passenger facilities and customer service. Judges marked each station entry on key criteria including: appearance, facilities, transport links and customer focus as well as looking for evidence of staff commitment and pride in service delivery. Barnstaple station is part of the picturesque Tarka Line, which runs from Exeter to Barnstaple, a route covered by the Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership. The Partnership, working with First Great Western and volunteers from the Tarka Line Association, have worked hard over the years to improve facilities at the station and promote the line in general. Passenger journeys have risen from 47% from April 2007 to April 2011. The station is the starting point for the scenic Tarka Trail cycle path. Cycles are available to hire as part of support for promoting tourist visits. First Great Western Area Manager David Crome said: ^This award is validation for the amazing work accomplished by Station manager Melanie Harvey and her hard working staff. I^d also like to thank the local volunteers, Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership, Tarka Rail Association and Network Rail for all their contributions to improving Barnstaple Station. ^ Richard Burningham, Manager of the Devon & Cornwall Rail Partnership said: ^I am delighted that Barnstaple has won this prestigious award. The development at the station is down to a lot of hard work by a lot of people and would not have been possible without the support of local volunteers, Devon County Council, the Tarka Rail Association and staff from First Great Western and Network Rail.^ Tarka Rail Association Chairman John Burch said: ^Barnstaple station now gains International acknowledgement for its position at the far end of a railway line that has been growing in strategic importance for some time! The Tarka Line will soon cross the 500,000 passengers a year threshold. ^That is in no small part due to the work of the great team at Barnstaple where our own Mike Day has done fantastic work to provide a superb facility for customers and was in Cork as part of the team who received the award. We look forward to welcoming further new visitors to the line now that this award has further broadened awareness of the line and Barnstaple^s position as gateway to North Devon.^ Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: IndustryInsider on November 29, 2011, 11:36:33 Hmmm, whilst I wouldn't like to say that Barnstaple isn't worthy of an award, judging by the following link, the Translink International Station Awards only comprised of 8 different companies/franchises:
http://www.build.co.uk/construction_news.asp?newsid=136078 (http://www.build.co.uk/construction_news.asp?newsid=136078) The eight participating companies were: Mersey Rail First Great Western First Transpennine Express Arriva Trains Wales Metro Tyne Wear Iarnr^d ^ireann Translink NI Railways London Overground International in the loosest possible sense! Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: inspector_blakey on November 29, 2011, 15:46:51 What on earth do you mean? Or course Merseyside is another country... ;)
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: JayMac on November 29, 2011, 16:22:59 As, arguably, is Wales. Phoned a North Wales bus company this morning and was greeted in Welsh. Found myself asking, "Do you speak English?" and felt a bit of a chump for doing so.
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: inspector_blakey on November 29, 2011, 18:20:35 Now here's a thought...seeing as (at least on one level) technically England, Wales and Scotland are all different countries perhaps it should be "International Rail"... :P
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 30, 2012, 14:42:42 From the North Devon Gazette (http://www.northdevongazette.co.uk/news/signs_point_to_rail_tourism_boost_1_1392905):
Quote Partnership project highlights wealth of station walks (http://www.devon24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/swcp_launch_barnstaple_250512_004_for_nd_gazette_1_1392900!image/1801067527.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/1801067527.jpg) From left: Mike Day from the Station Master^s Caf^, John Slater from the South West Coast Path Team and Matt Edworthy Devon County Council launch the new map boards on Friday. Two new map boards have been unveiled to encourage people to take the train to Barnstaple and walk the Tarka Trail and South West Coast Path. The boards, launched on Friday, show the variety of walks which can be accessed from Barnstaple railway station. One is situated outside the Station Master^s Caf^ and the second is on a key junction close to where several paths meet. A third is planned for the front of the station. The rail tourism project is the result of collaboration between the South West Coast Path team, Devon County Council and the Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership. The Tarka Trail Cycle Hire and the Station Master^s Caf^, both based at the station, are also involved in the initiative. In Cornwall, similar map boards have been installed at Looe and Penzance stations but Barnstaple is the first Devon station to be involved. Mike Day, from the Station Master^s Caf^, said ^The South West Coast Path is a vital national asset and we are very happy to support it. Barnstaple railway station forms a key gateway into North Devon and the train offers an environmentally sustainable way of accessing the South West Coast Path from around the UK. Once here, people can explore the path by foot or certain sections by cycle from the cycle hire here at the station.^ Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: TerminalJunkie on November 06, 2012, 13:03:17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHVoYIpBb6s
Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: JayMac on November 06, 2012, 13:12:53 The title of that video contains one of my pet hates.
It's 'Railway Station' not 'Train Station'. Grrr >:( Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: bobm on November 06, 2012, 16:07:14 I thought the train pulling into the station at approximately 1 minute in was going a bit fast until I saw the member of platform staff walk towards it!
Oh and I agree about Railway Station v Train Station.... Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Umberleigh on November 07, 2012, 10:09:52 Should have left of the 142s...
... people will get confused with the Bus Station :D Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: trainer on November 07, 2012, 19:43:28 I can heartily agree that the Barnstaple Railway Station buffet is excellent - try the good value bacon baps - but I was 'whiling' away my time there, not 'winding' it! The word 'historic' is applied to the station and the town at the beginning and as if to reinforce this what do we see almost immediately? A First Bus - now history in Barnstaple I believe.
Yours pedantically :) Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 21, 2013, 20:05:13 From the North Devon Journal (http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/story-18736434-detail/story.html?#axzz2R6aU7fKP):
Quote 'Costa will kill my caf^' claims manager of Barnstaple's train station caf^ The manager of the Station Caf^, at Barnstaple railway station, says plans for a Costa Coffee nearby seem designed purely to put pressure on his business. Mike Day says the plans, which were submitted to North Devon Council a month ago, will have a big impact on his business if they are approved. (http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/275779/Article/images/18736434/4769132.jpg) WORRIED: Caf^ manager Mike Day with a customer. Picture: Gemma Varney If approved the plans will see a branch of Costa open in the former Calor Gas showroom on Barnstaple's Seven Brethren industrial estate, just a few hundred yards from the railway station. Mr Day says that seems unfair. He said: "There isn't enough trade for two cafes. I think they will be targeting our customers and I suspect they want the station house building. The application just doesn't make sense. One of the justifications given is it will bring a redundant building back into use ^ but they will only be using 10 per cent of it." He fears another branch of Costa in the town ^ there is already one on Barnstaple High Street ^ would kill local business. He said: "Companies like Costa can go in anywhere. They are worse than supermarkets because at least supermarkets need a large plot of land and development. All the money they make is sucked out of the area. We pay local people and spend money with local businesses." Costa said it did not think its new premises, which it hopes to open next month, will be a threat to any existing local traders. A spokesman for the company said: "We honestly do not think anyone should see Costa as a threat to independent businesses. Coffee shops are popular meeting hubs for people and bring substantial benefits to surrounding businesses, bringing people into town centres and spending money in the local area. We think people like to have a choice. Our offering is very different to local independent coffee shops and we believe that people can and will use both, depending on their needs." Mr Day has objected to the plans, as have more than 70 other people. "People's reactions have been interesting," he said. "Even people who have never used us before have been coming in to ask us how they can object." A petition of around 200 signatures against the plan has also been collected. The plan is still open to consultation at www.northdevon.gov.uk Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: grahame on April 21, 2013, 20:36:48 From the North Devon Journal (http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/story-18736434-detail/story.html?#axzz2R6aU7fKP): He said: "Companies like Costa can go in anywhere. They are worse than supermarkets because at least supermarkets need a large plot of land and development. All the money they make is sucked out of the area. We pay local people and spend money with local businesses." We've just been through a Costa planning cycle in Melksham, though ours has a different arrangement. It's a franchise - with a local investment into the outlet of around 250k, with the sales / marketing coming from Costa, an around 10 local employees. Are Costa themselves really doing the Barnstaple one from HQ with no local involvement at all? Title: Re: Barnstaple Station - awards, improvements, facilities and connections Post by: trainer on April 21, 2013, 23:26:09 I very much doubt that Costa will be able to compete with the bacon rolls available at the station. Independents often offer something quite different to the factory-produced fare of the big chains and Barnstaple Station in one such.
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