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Title: Steam engine 60163 'Tornado' - merged posts Post by: inspector_blakey on February 09, 2009, 20:03:52 Edited in error
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: thetrout on February 09, 2009, 21:37:11 I've heard about that, it was on the news a few months ago I remember.
What was the coaching stock that she hauled? And your right, she is a fantastic feet of engineering ;D Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 09, 2009, 21:49:30 Sorry, chaps - I was just worried that I'd be 'shot down' if I posted anything about 'a steam engine from the North' anywhere on this forum!
I've been itching to do so: how about this, for a start? See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876162.stm Chris :P :-[ ;D Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Electric train on February 09, 2009, 22:04:14 Tornado is genuinely a new member of her class, its not a replica or a rebuild; there has been some excellent engineering involved to build this locomotive not only based on the drawings but to adapted them to include modern technology and modern requirements for mainline running yet keeping an authentic look.
Shame they choose an LNER engine and not a far superior GWR engine ;D The A1 steam locomotive trust are to congratulated http://www.a1steam.com/ (http://www.a1steam.com/) Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on February 09, 2009, 22:24:06 What was the coaching stock that she hauled? The stock was mostly mk Is with a couple of mk IIa vehicles at the rear. Most of the carriages were owned by Riviera Trains or DB Schenker and the one I travelled in was immaculate - good to see these vehicles getting some maintenance because the last few times I have been on charter trains the stock has been looking like it's seen better days! 13 bogies on the back of the tender and she could have been an HST, the acceleration out of Darlington was that impressive. For the moment she's limited to 75 mph (and because she's fitted with a data recorder I suspect this is likely to be observed, whereas with other steam locos in the past there's been a temptation to push things a bit) but the A1SLT are aiming for 90 mph certification which means she'll have to have a 99 mph test run - let's hope they go for the extra 1 mph and make the ton! Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on February 09, 2009, 22:26:59 Shame they choose an LNER engine and not a far superior GWR engine ;D Must...rise...above...it... But 60163 would definitely beat a King or Castle in a fight anyday ;) And she'd steam on a candle flame, by the look of things - she was blowing off even when rattling along at full chat! Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on February 09, 2009, 22:58:02 why are charters excempt from the mk1 ban?
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: thetrout on February 10, 2009, 10:46:42 why are charters excempt from the mk1 ban? My understanding is if you run any rail service with Mk 1 Coaching stock, you need either a designated out of service Mk1 coach, or a Mk 2 or 3 coach at the rear. This is because if a train crashes into the back of a Mk1 carriage, it will demount itself from it's bogies or will be completely destroyed, which is bad...! However with Mark 2 and above this does not happen. Because it acts as a barrier...! Also there is the issue with Central Door Locking not present in some Mk1 carriages... ::) Do please correct me if i'm wrong! ;) Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: autotank on February 10, 2009, 11:01:16 You'd expect the A1 to be better than a King or Castle as 20 years seperates the designs! I'm pretty confident that the King wouldn't disgrace itself against the A1 on the Devon banks (assuming the King didn't run a hot box!! ;D).
Well done to the A1 guys - a fabulous project that has really captured the public's imagination. Being a western man though I still think a Castle looks and sounds better! I confidently predict that 5043 will raise a few northern eyebrows when she takes on Shap in the summer. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Tim on February 10, 2009, 11:06:25 why are charters excempt from the mk1 ban? My understanding is if you run any rail service with Mk 1 Coaching stock, you need either a designated out of service Mk1 coach, or a Mk 2 or 3 coach at the rear. This is because if a train crashes into the back of a Mk1 carriage, it will demount itself from it's bogies or will be completely destroyed, which is bad...! However with Mark 2 and above this does not happen. Because it acts as a barrier...! Also there is the issue with Central Door Locking not present in some Mk1 carriages... ::) Do please correct me if i'm wrong! ;) I think you are correct. IIRC you can't have a Mk I for passenger use at the end of the rake. West Coast railways's Jacobite/Harry Potter trains from Fort William to Mallaig use Mk Is without CDL. However, the doors are fitted with extra hand operated bolts (like you have on the inside of your bathroom door at home) so although passengers can unlockand open their own door It isn't so easy for them to do it accidentally because it is a two step process. Staff can pass down the train and visually check that the bolts are locked. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on February 10, 2009, 11:37:06 Absolutely correct.
Charters using mk I stock either run with an out-of-use mk I at either end (on a steam charter this is not so much of a problem, as there is invariably a staff-only "support coach" carrying the loco support crew immediately behind the tender) or with an "in-service" mk II. In general these trains tend to run with a mk II vehicle carrying passengers on the rear rather than an empty mk I, for obvious commercial reasons - my train on Saturday certainly did. And all mainline mk I stock is now fitted with "lash-up" secondary (not central) door locking, consisting of a bolt on the inside. I'd love to know who risk-assessed that, since there is no external emergency release mechanism (other than smashing the droplight and reaching inside). Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: G.Uard on February 10, 2009, 14:04:12 Shame they choose an LNER engine and not a far superior GWR engine ;D Must...rise...above...it... But 60163 would definitely beat a King or Castle in a fight anyday ;) And she'd steam on a candle flame, by the look of things - she was blowing off even when rattling along at full chat! Possibly...but not a completely new built King or Castle. Kings had a higher tractive effort I believe. GWR locos were so much more handsome too. ;) Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on February 10, 2009, 23:05:54 Well, OK they have a higher tractive effort (40,300 lb vs. 37,400 lb, but only because the King has pissy little driving wheels, put 6' 2" wheels on an A1 and you get an A2 with tractive effort of 40,430...I'm taking my anorak off now) but give me the A1 any day. It looks so much more modern and impressive. It's not all arty-farty copper-and-brass trimmed, the design is just sheer elegance. Not quite in the league of the Gresley A3s a la Flying Scotsman (the best looking locomotives ever to grace the face of the Earth if you ask me, nothing Swindon ever produced can compete for looks!) but still a fantastic-looking machine.
I have to admit to being a bit disappointed when they announced 60163 would be unveiled in apple green, lettered British Railways but having seen her in the flesh I'm a convert! Something tells me I might be fighting a bit of a losing battle trying to convince people on here that the LNER was better than the GWR though... ::) ;) :D Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Electric train on February 11, 2009, 08:11:17 Something tells me I might be fighting a bit of a losing battle trying to convince people on here that the LNER was better than the GWR though... ::) ;) :D You are right there ;DTitle: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: G.Uard on February 11, 2009, 08:27:55 Apple Green!!! Is it an Aga or a locomotive? ;D Answers on a postcard please... ;)
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on February 11, 2009, 11:44:28 I've never seen an Aga attract a crowd of thousands :P ;) (except possibly in some of the more fiercely upper-middle-class areas of the country!)
http://railwayeye.blogspot.com/2009/02/kings-cross-catering-scandal.html (http://railwayeye.blogspot.com/2009/02/kings-cross-catering-scandal.html) Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: MarkRanger on February 11, 2009, 14:57:16 I was staggered by the public interest in this run.
It just shows what huge appetite the Brits have for trains. I just wish some of the TOCs could understand this Mark Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: moonrakerz on February 11, 2009, 19:08:19 Just in case anyone is not aware, Tornado will be in Salisbury on Saturday 14th. Well -almost ! She will come down from Andover then branch off onto the Laverstock loop towards Romsey.
See: http://www.uksteam.info/tours/t09/t0214b.htm Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: RichardB on February 11, 2009, 21:41:31 Thanks Inspector. I envy you for being on the train - I can just imagine the atmosphere. I was on the Past Time Rail "Pocket Rocket" to Barnstaple three or so years ago and the sight of people waving at the train from every platform and crossing (and the back of the Portsmouth Arms pub in this instance) was lovely. You will have had that with knobs on.
Thanks to YouTube, we can all see almost the entire trip. I have to say, I don't think the Station Manager Kings Cross will be happy with how things turned out! I suspect a few backsides were kicked on Monday. But all in a good cause. Now, we must see Tornado on the Sea Wall and over the Devon banks - what are the chances? We'll give the loco a great welcome in Plymouth! Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on February 11, 2009, 23:24:32 I've been on a couple of steam charters in the past and you're right, the atmosphere is always pleasant. People seem to wave automatically at steam engines. Once I went up to Holyhead and the entire hard shoulder of the A5 was packed with cars with their bonnets up. Once the train had passed, the "photters" put their bonnets down again and drove off in their perfectly healthy cars!
I've never experienced anything like the public interest we had on Saturday's tour though. The stewards at King's X were giving the families on the platform tours of the carriages so they could see what an old-fashioned train was like! Although KGX was very very busy it never seemed unsafe to me, everyone was patient and good-natured so I hope there haven't been too many recriminations. In fact, some of the station staff had got into the spirit of the thing and were wearing floral buttonholes for the occasion! Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: MarkRanger on February 12, 2009, 11:10:10 If the thought that the KX station manager might have been unhappy is true, then - to my way of thinking - that shows how out of touch the operators are.
2,500 people at KX - what about the catering takings on a winter saturday? How many came in and out by rail? How many children have now wanted to travel somewhere by train? Let along the people who went to stations en route. If anything, I would have thought A1 Steam ought to be on a revenue share! It cannot just be about operational issues - why do you think they want us at airports anything up to 3 hours before departure? What do we do while we wait? We spend, which presumably helps to offset the lower access charges that low cost airlines pay. Or am I being hopelessly naive? Mark Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: RichardB on February 12, 2009, 13:33:42 Although KGX was very very busy it never seemed unsafe to me, everyone was patient and good-natured so I hope there haven't been too many recriminations. In fact, some of the station staff had got into the spirit of the thing and were wearing floral buttonholes for the occasion! That's great, Inspector. Good to hear of the staff getting involved too - it must have been a terrific atmosphere. My reason for mentioning the Station Manager Kings Cross was that seeing this video (the tail end) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SimfvWz0U7g&feature=related , I was surprised that people were right up to the platform edge. This one put my mind at ease more - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X97eyRFfpao - and, of course, everything passed off fine and everybody had a great time, which is the key thing. I'm looking forward to reports of the day in the mags. As Mark says, there will have been lots of other great spin-offs too. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: stebbo on March 20, 2009, 21:35:39 As an unrepentant GWR man, the King wins every day. I believe I am correct in saying that Kings had far more tractive effort than A4s and the rest which is why they fared so well on the climbs out of Kings Cross in the Exchange Trials.
4-6-0 and a the weight of the firebox over the driving wheels = excellence. How about a new Grange? Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Electric train on March 21, 2009, 08:03:13 4-6-0 and a the weight of the firebox over the driving wheels = excellence. How about a new Grange? Find ^3,000,000 or so and I am sure someone would build oneTitle: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Andy on March 21, 2009, 08:45:31 Three GWR new/re-builds/conversions are currently under way, the first being nearer to completion than the other two. With the necessary support, our patch may have it's own new steam loco as well.
2999 Lady of Legend - GWR Saint 6880 Betton Grange -GWR Grange 1014 County of Glamorgan -GWR County Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: eightf48544 on March 21, 2009, 11:28:51 When we moved to Slough in 1947 my mother used to take me after school to Slough staion and we'd sit on the Down Relief platform by the water column. One of the stoppers was often one of the last Saints. I don't think they were the most elegant of the GW 4-6-0s, but it will be interesting to see how the rebuilt one (larger wheels on a Hall frames/boiler) fares. I will leave you guess which I think is the most elegant GW 4-6-0.
Granges are just a smaller wheeled Hall. However the County rebuild is interesting as I'm not sure that using an 8F boiler they will achieve the very chunky smokebox/boiler of the originals. I would suggest that a 47XX 2-8-0 would be a far more interesting project. We would see them trundeling through Slough on Summer Saturdays on West of England reliefs and empty stock trains. We rarely saw them in daylight otherwise as they were mostly used on overnight fast fitted freights. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: autotank on March 22, 2009, 11:26:32 I will leave you guess which I think is the most elegant GW 4-6-0. Castles without a doubt. Most attractive British steam engine ever full stop! I hope Nunney or Earl of Edgcumbe get a chance to show up some of the Pacifics during their current mainline stints. There is definately unfinished business on the S&C. Pretty sure 5043 will flatten Shap with the right crew in June. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: eightf48544 on March 22, 2009, 14:26:07 Castles definitely for GW, but strangely I also like the standard fives.
I think it's to do with the proportions, the Star's boiler is too small whilst the King's is too large. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: stebbo on March 22, 2009, 21:16:46 Castles definitely for GW, but strangely I also like the standard fives.
I think it's to do with the proportions, the Star's boiler is too small whilst the King's is too large. But to a five year old going on holiday from Paddington in the late 50s, the sight of the larger tender of a King backing onto the train was a real thrill Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 07, 2009, 20:36:55 Now, we must see Tornado on the Sea Wall and over the Devon banks - what are the chances? We'll give the loco a great welcome in Plymouth! Your wish shall be granted, RichardB! ;) :D ;D Locomotive A1 Tornado 60163 will be operating Golden Hind, between Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton - Exeter St Davids - Plymouth on Saturday 11 July 2009. Ticket prices and details are at http://www.past-timerail.co.uk/index.php/the-golden-hind Quote A Summer excursion through Great Western territory to the naval City of Plymouth is the appeal of the Golden Hind. Steam haulage will be provided by A1 No. 60163 ^Tornado^ running from Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth and return. Leaving Basingstoke station early in the morning we make our way towards Bristol behind a modern diesel locomotive, making further passengers calls en-route. On arrival at Bristol ^Tornado^ will be waiting to take the train on to Plymouth. After leaving Taunton 60163 will face her first real test powering the train over Whiteball summit, as we leave Somerset and enter glorious Devon. Leaving Exeter, we steam along the exciting sea wall, as we race through tunnels and cuttings of red rock, with the sea keeping company with the train all the way to Newton Abbot. From Newton Abbot ^Tornado^ will have to show her true power, as we start to climb the first of the Devon banks ^ Dainton. We steam on through Totnes, then almost immediately face the climb of Rattery bank. We then skirt the edge of Dartmoor and descend Hemerdon to arrive at the historic City of Plymouth. After a break whilst ^Tornado^ is serviced and watered we retrace our steps, with the steep climb of Hemerdon bank as the first major test for ^Tornado^ as we power our way up the 1 in 42 bank. Again a stop at Exeter will be required to water the loco, before we continue our homeward journey back to Bristol Temple Meads. At Bristol we bid farewell to ^Tornado^ and return to Basingstoke, setting down as outward with more modern traction. (Just for information, some of the admin team from this forum will be travelling - just in case anyone wants to look out for / avoid us! ;) ) Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 06, 2009, 21:29:47 PLEASE NOTE: This rail excursion has been cancelled, due to Past-Time Rail Ltd having ceased trading (see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4794.0)
Letters have been sent out to those who have already booked, but the Past-Time Rail website has not been updated since 31 May (when they were announcing "Just 34 standard seats left; First Class fully booked"), and is apparently still encouraging bookings for those seats - so please be aware! However, there is an update (http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs09.htm) on the UKsteam Info website, Quote Sat 11-Jul THE GOLDEN HIND [CANCELLED] updated (05/06) Bristol-Plymouth (OM01) [dbs] 60163: Bristol-Plymouth-Bristol Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: John R on June 06, 2009, 21:37:53 I hope those of you on the admin team who were hoping to travel used credit cards to book.
It's very sad as Past Time Rail were a long established operator, and generally had a good record of reliability. Though I'm glad that they have appeared to ring fence the Torbay Express bookings and transfer them on before closing. It would appear the other regular working, the Cotton Mill Express hasn't been saved in the same way. Wonder what went wrong? Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 06, 2009, 23:18:42 Thanks, John! ;)
The letter that I (and, I understand, grahame - and possibly others) received: (http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img194/5572/pasttimerailletter.jpg) Chris ::) :( Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: devon_metro on June 06, 2009, 23:23:34 So isn't pathfinders going to run it for them?
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 06, 2009, 23:33:19 There's nothing we can find to suggest that, devon_metro: as John R has posted, only the Torbay Express seems to have been taken on by Pathfinder. ::) :o >:(
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: grahame on June 07, 2009, 00:04:55 There's nothing we can find to suggest that, devon_metro: as John R has posted, only the Torbay Express seems to have been taken on by Pathfinder. ::) :o >:( The letter doesn't actually say it is cancelled - it just talks about getting money back. However, the Pathfinder site lists the Torbay express but not the Golden Hind, and the publicity for their "Tamar Express" on 8th August now talks about it being "the first test of Tornado over the South Devon Banks" .... perhaps they've not taken on "The Golden Hind" on the basis that disappointed people may transfer to their train which runs 4 weeks later, rather than have two trains run less than full. http://www.pathfindertours.co.uk/Steam.htm#Tour080809TTT Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: devon_metro on June 07, 2009, 17:09:31 There's nothing we can find to suggest that, devon_metro: as John R has posted, only the Torbay Express seems to have been taken on by Pathfinder. ::) :o >:( Ah, I was under the impression you were booked up on the Torbay Express! Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: RichardB on June 08, 2009, 11:41:46 Desperately sad to see that Past-Time Rail have gone into liquidation. I worked with Andy Staite on their Cornish steam week - he is a very good bloke and it was a good company.
Hope we see Andy back in the railways before long. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 18, 2009, 20:17:52 I've now received a letter from a firm of insolvency practitioners in London, confirming that Past-Time Rail Limited is in liquidation.
A meeting of the creditors is to be held in Birmingham on 3 July 2009. Chris :( Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on June 18, 2009, 20:36:58 if you go on tornados website all the torbay express services are listed as Pathfinder now
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: willc on August 14, 2009, 20:27:37 If anyone would like to get a close-up look at Tornado, it will be visiting Didcot Railway Centre from Sunday until September 2 and will be in steam hauling trains on the centre's demonstration line on Wednesday August 26 and over the bank holiday weekend, when the broad gauge replica loco Fire Fly will also be in steam.
http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/news/latest.html#news02 Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 25, 2009, 20:32:58 'Tornado' is on the Severn Valley Railway this week - from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8323798.stm):
Quote New steam loco at valley railway The first mainline steam locomotive to be built in England since 1960 is making its debut on the Severn Valley Railway (SVR). The Tornado, a ^3m Peppercorn class A1 Pacific, was built by enthusiasts in Darlington over a period of 18 years. It set off from Kidderminster in Worcestershire earlier, to make the 16-mile journey to Bridgnorth, Shropshire. The locomotive will remain at the SVR over the half-term holidays, making two round trips a day. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 01, 2010, 11:03:58 From the Bristol Evening Post (http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Steam-train-knocked-service/article-2366551-detail/article.html):
Quote Steam train knocked out of service A historic steam locomotive due to run trips from Bristol this summer has been taken out of service after faults were found in its boiler. Tornado, completed in 2008 after an 18-year campaign by enthusiasts, was the first mainline steam engine to be built in Britain since 1960. The ^3 million locomotive has been pulling passenger trains since January last year but has had to be withdrawn after two suspected faulty stays ^ internal strengtheners in the engine's boiler ^ were found during a routine inspection by fitters on Saturday, when she was due to haul The Bristolian to London and back. The discovery follows the identification of five defective stays in late May and early June, which were replaced along with seven neighbouring stays. The A1 Steam Locomotive Trust, which owns and operates Tornado, took the decision to temporarily withdraw her from service to complete an investigation into the cause of the defect and repairs. All of the trust's customers have been advised of the situation and will be informed of Tornado's planned return to service as soon as possible. Last year hundreds of people in the Bristol area turned out to see the A1 Pacific loco on excursions, standing beside the tracks and lining platforms at stations along the route. Tornado was to have headed a series of weekend excursions called the Torbay Express. The preserved GWR King Edward I will now take her place at the head of the train for the next trip on Sunday. A trip to Carmarthen on July 10 will still run but not with Tornado and the next day's excursion to Kingswear in Devon has been cancelled. Visits to the preserved West Somerset Railway in the week beginning July 12 have also been cancelled. Information on when Tornado will return to traffic will be posted on www.a1steam.com as soon as it becomes available. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: JayMac on July 01, 2010, 18:29:38 Well, there you go. Modern traction just ain't as reliable as the old stuff! ;)
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on July 01, 2010, 20:31:52 I was already having a bad day, then read that article this morning and it got worse :'(
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on July 02, 2010, 20:07:59 health and safty the way it is these days..... ::) ..... would these faults have been such a big issue back in the day (im not pretending to know anything about the workings of a kettle) but im guessing every bolt has to be checked these days
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on July 02, 2010, 21:05:05 I have the feeling that the A1 trust has probably done more than is necessary as a precaution. I would guess that they're worried that the number of stay failures in the last few months could point to some kind of systematic problem with the loco, and if that's the case then I guess they'll want to do a full remedial job rather than "patching up" every time one of them goes ping. The odd broken stay isn't a massive problem, it's certainly repairable although a bit of a pain in the backside and not the easiest of jobs. But the number of broken stays that the relatively new boiler (only a couple of years old) has experienced recently might be a sign of some deeper problem. But I sincerely hope not! :-\
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2010, 16:34:30 I hope not also. I be riding behind her on the West Somerset on the 13th. Okay, she's not going to be thrashed, what with the 25mph speed limit, but if only for CfN's sake I've got fingers crossed that everything goes to plan. He's already lost out once!
Now, can anyone out there find details of 60163's positioning moves down to the West Somerset Railway. She due there tomorrow (4th September) for a three week residency. I fear it may be too late to see her through Bristol..... but if it's early doors tomorrow I might change my travel plans down to T**nt*n. ;D. A1 Trust wouldn't tell me (understandable), but am I right in thinking that the light engine moves will be in TRUST? Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: Electric train on September 03, 2010, 16:48:44 I hope not also. I be riding behind her on the West Somerset on the 13th. Okay, she's not going to be thrashed, what with the 25mph speed limit, but if only for CfN's sake I've got fingers crossed that everything goes to plan. He's already lost out once! She was on the MHR last weekend and might have been stabled there all week so its possible she may be routed via the Berks n Hants to Taunton.Now, can anyone out there find details of 60163's positioning moves down to the West Somerset Railway. She due there tomorrow (4th September) for a three week residency. I fear it may be too late to see her through Bristol..... but if it's early doors tomorrow I might change my travel plans down to T**nt*n. ;D. A1 Trust wouldn't tell me (understandable), but am I right in thinking that the light engine moves will be in TRUST? Oh and she was in fine fetal when I went for a visit last Tuesday Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: devon_metro on September 03, 2010, 16:50:20 I hope not also. I be riding behind her on the West Somerset on the 13th. Okay, she's not going to be thrashed, what with the 25mph speed limit, but if only for CfN's sake I've got fingers crossed that everything goes to plan. He's already lost out once! Now, can anyone out there find details of 60163's positioning moves down to the West Somerset Railway. She due there tomorrow (4th September) for a three week residency. I fear it may be too late to see her through Bristol..... but if it's early doors tomorrow I might change my travel plans down to T**nt*n. ;D. A1 Trust wouldn't tell me (understandable), but am I right in thinking that the light engine moves will be in TRUST? Tornado arrived on the WSR on Wednesday Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2010, 17:11:04 B*gg*r.
Still, no need to get up early tomorrow. ;D Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: inspector_blakey on September 03, 2010, 17:18:02 A1 Trust wouldn't tell me (understandable), but am I right in thinking that the light engine moves will be in TRUST? I think the A1 Trust are being careful to try and minimize trespass as much as is humanly possible! Finger crossed, I think the outbreaks of mass idiocy on the part of many photters and gricers who apparently thought there was nothing wrong with swarming all over the ECML and setting up their tripods in the four-foot of the slow lines on Tornado's first trips (for real, I saw a couple doing just that from the train it was working which scared me s**tless, especially when an FCC EMU went whizzing past a few seconds later) have died down to some extent now. I don't blame them for treading with come caution though - only a few weeks ago this (http://railwayeye.blogspot.com/2010/08/darwin-award-step-too-far.html) happened. It's not only Tornado that is afflicted with such incredibly stupid followers either, viz here (http://railwayeye.blogspot.com/2010/07/darwin-award-puffer-nutters-again.html) and here (http://www.railmagazine.com/news/default.asp?storyID=159&nid=4)... ::) But having said all that you can often find details of steam positioning movements, when the operators have agreed to release planned timings, anyway, at the UK Steam (http://www.uksteam.info/tours/lem10.htm) website. Title: Re: 60163 Tornado Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2010, 18:38:06 I fully understand why kettle operators are extremely reluctant to advertise details of positioning moves. It's unfortunate that a few fupping idiots spoil things for the majority.
I asked the A1 Trust whether 60163 was going to be coaling at Barton Hill prior to her move down to the WSR but they wouldn't even tell me this. I can accept that. I'm not particularly well gen'd when it comes to all things kettle, but it would've been nice to know whether or not she was being stabled in Bristol. As it turns out, it looks likely that she moved to Bishops Lydeard via Cogload from the Mid-Hants. Hopefully my friend of a friend, Howard Jones (he of the 80's pop fame), may've got some shots of her, light engine, through Cogload. Yes, I know that was a pretty shameless name drop but Mr Jones has got a fantastic property overlooking Cogload Junction; a converted pump-house next to the Taunton-Bridgwater canal, and I'm told one of the reasons he bought it was because he likes all things trains! Title: 60163 'Tornado' - merged posts Post by: bobm on April 20, 2013, 20:32:04 Problems for Tornado this afternoon on a steam excursion. Failed at Rhyl on its way back from Holyhead to London Euston around 5.30pm. As of 8.30pm it is still there blocking the North Wales Coast line. Steam Dreams twitter feed says the loco has brake problems.
Title: Re: 60163 Tornado fails in North Wales Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 20, 2013, 20:34:57 The brakes are broken. ;)
Title: 60163 'Tornado' - merged posts Post by: froggycat on March 01, 2016, 09:52:51 http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/watch-steam-train-tornado-gives-10969024 (http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/watch-steam-train-tornado-gives-10969024)
I so wish I had been at the station then!!! Title: Didcot Gala weekend with 'Tornado' 25th - 28th March 2016 Post by: Rob on the hill on March 25, 2016, 10:16:55 http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/
Quote Fri 25 - Mon 28 March ^ Easter Gala with Guest Loco ^Tornado^ Guest locomotive, Peppercorn A1 class Pacific 60163 ^Tornado^ Footplate rides on ^Tornado^ at ^10 per ride - bookable on the day Signalling in Operation on the Branch Line ^Black Python^ Real Ale Bar open Children's Treasure Hunt and Craft Activities Title: Re: Didcot Gala weekend with 'Tornado' 25th - 28th March 2016 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 25, 2016, 22:08:01 Many thanks for posting that item, Rob on the hill. :)
I've taken the opportunity to link it to our Coffee Shop calendar. My father will be there on Saturday evening, trying out his new camera: I'll see if I can post any of his photos here. Title: Re: Didcot Gala weekend with 'Tornado' 25th - 28th March 2016 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 30, 2016, 01:04:21 Unfortunately, the weather was so ghastly on Saturday evening (wind, rain and hail) that most of the outdoor displays were disrupted and my father wasn't able to get more than just a few 'indoors' shots:
(http://i.imgur.com/eLsYdCJ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/aeeOcDf.jpg) Pictures ^ John Hankin. Title: Re: Didcot Gala weekend with 'Tornado' 25th - 28th March 2016 Post by: JayMac on March 30, 2016, 06:18:15 Great pictures!
Title: The Severn Valley Venturer 8th Sept 2016 with 'Tornado' Post by: Rob on the hill on June 09, 2016, 19:02:24 This looks to be a varied and interesting trip which I've just booked. Includes a Reading pick-up which may be convenient for some on here.
http://www.ukrailtours.com/product/the-severn-valley-venturer/ Quote Here’s something a little different! Enjoy a special midweek tour, taking 60163 ‘Tornado’ all the way from London to the Severn Valley Railway. ‘Tornado’ storms out of London Victoria, taking us via Kensington Olympia, Willesden, Acton, Slough and Reading. We continue past Oxford’s ‘dreaming spires’ to Banbury where we pause for water. After passing through Leamington Spa, Solihull and Tyseley our journey takes us through the revived Birmingham Snow Hill, then on via Smethwick, Old Hill and Stourbridge Junction to Kidderminster where we take the link that connects the national rail network to the Severn Valley Railway. With 60163 still at the head, the train calls at Bewdley before travelling the length of this superbly preserved railway, passing through idyllic countryside before reaching Bridgnorth. Here you have a break of around three hours. The pleasant town is just a short walk from the station, linked by an authentic cliff lift – an unusual feature for an inland location. For the return journey from Bridgnorth to Bewdley we have requested the use of Bulleid ‘West Country’ Pacific 34027. At Bewdley a DB Class 66 takes over for the return journey which re-traces our outward route to London Victoria. Your tour ticket will also be valid for travel on scheduled Severn Valley Railway trains, giving a variety of alternative itinerary opportunities. Title: Re: The Severn Valley Venturer 8th Sept 2016 with 'Tornado' Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 15, 2016, 00:23:30 With thanks for posting this item, Rob on the hill, I've now taken the opportunity to also add it to our Coffee Shop forum calendar. :)
Title: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: alexross42 on February 19, 2017, 08:15:21 From the Bodmin Railway Facebook page:
Quote We are VERY excited to announce that 60163 Tornado will be visiting Bodmin & Wenford Railway from 1st to 4th June 2017. This will be the first chance for passengers to travel on Tornado on a heritage line west of Taunton. Tickets go on sale soon, and we’re expecting them to be popular. Join our mailing list and follow us on Facebook and Twitter for the latest updates. Don’t miss out! Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: PhilWakely on February 19, 2017, 08:22:55 From the Bodmin Railway Facebook page: Quote We are VERY excited to announce that 60163 Tornado will be visiting Bodmin & Wenford Railway from 1st to 4th June 2017. This will be the first chance for passengers to travel on Tornado on a heritage line west of Taunton. Tickets go on sale soon, and we’re expecting them to be popular. Join our mailing list and follow us on Facebook and Twitter for the latest updates. Don’t miss out! [pedant mode] My highlighting.............. I think you will find that Tornado has visited Kingswear, so this statement is slightly incorrect. [/pedant mode] Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: grahame on February 19, 2017, 09:17:30 [pedant mode] My highlighting.............. I think you will find that Tornado has visited Kingswear, so this statement is slightly incorrect. [/pedant mode] Pedant **2 - how can something be "slightly incorrect"? Either it's correct or not, isn't it? ;D ;D Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: grahame on February 19, 2017, 09:52:45 This will be the first chance for passengers to travel on Tornado on a heritage line west of Taunton. Another pedant alert. "On" Tornado. Are they offering footplate rides. Wow! Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: bobm on February 19, 2017, 12:43:11 It has also visited the West Somerset Railway which is west of Taunton....
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: JayMac on February 19, 2017, 12:51:10 It has also visited the West Somerset Railway which is west of Taunton.... More pedantry... Well, longitudinally its west. However, directionally, the start and end stations are north-west of Taunton. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: bobm on February 19, 2017, 12:52:13 That is still west as opposed to east! ;D
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: rower40 on February 20, 2017, 13:54:33 D*mn and Bl*st...
Holiday in Cornwall already booked, from 24th to 31st May, so I'll miss the opportunity of pulling the levers for Tornado during one of my shifts in Bodmin General signalbox. I wonder if Tornado will arrive via the Bodmin Parkway Exchange siding, or on the back of a lorry? If the former, making sure it's pointing the right way round could be a problem. All steam engines on the B&W run nose-first when climbing from Parkway to General, so Tornado would have to run tender-first from Penzance to Bodmin Parkway. Then, after its stay on B&W, it would then have to run tender-first from Bodmin Parkway to Plymouth, to then turn on the Laira triangle. So the visit to the B&W would, paradoxically, obviate the need to use the newly-renovated St Blazey turntable. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: SandTEngineer on February 20, 2017, 15:09:33 From the Bodmin Railway Facebook page: Quote We are VERY excited to announce that 60163 Tornado will be visiting Bodmin & Wenford Railway from 1st to 4th June 2017. This will be the first chance for passengers to travel on Tornado on a heritage line west of Taunton. Tickets go on sale soon, and we’re expecting them to be popular. Join our mailing list and follow us on Facebook and Twitter for the latest updates. Don’t miss out! [pedant mode] My highlighting.............. I think you will find that Tornado has visited Kingswear, so this statement is slightly incorrect. [/pedant mode] I don't think that the PDR is classed as a heritage line. As far as I'm aware Its run as a commercial business and doesn't use volunteers. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: JayMac on February 20, 2017, 20:52:58 Still a heritage railway. Just one that's owned an run by a PLC.
Title: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: PhilWakely on February 26, 2017, 14:13:06 Tornado is due to take charge of a Paddington to Cardiff railtour on Wed, 1st March. According to Realtime Trains (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54865/2017/03/01/advanced), the tour is due to be routed via Chippenham, Bath and Bristol East Yard on the outward journey.
As I haven't been there since 1978, can anybody tell me whether the western portal of Box Tunnel is still photogenic from the A4 or has lineside vegetation obscured the view? I was considering Sydney Gardens, Bath, but I guess that the awful wooden fence and the fact that the world and his wife is likely to be there rules that out? Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: bobm on February 26, 2017, 14:55:42 Haven't been there since December 2013 - but this was the view then.
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/box1.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/box2.jpg) Has the possibility of some problems with vegetation - might be a case of looking for more recent pictures on line. Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: grahame on February 26, 2017, 15:11:16 (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/box2.jpg) Has the possibility of some problems with vegetation - might be a case of looking for more recent pictures on line. That is a very interesting picture - I would not expect to see a 150/1 running a service from Chippenham to(wards) Bath. Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: bobm on February 26, 2017, 15:16:10 It wasn't - it was 150 002 running empty from Reading to Bristol for maintenance. Sufficiently unusual for me to make the effort to go and snap it.
Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: grahame on February 26, 2017, 15:17:51 It wasn't - it was 150 002 running empty from Reading to Bristol for maintenance. Sufficiently unusual for me to make the effort to go and snap it. Ah - in its blue era! Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: PhilWakely on February 26, 2017, 16:46:22 The Google maps image (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4187748,-2.249107,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1subxU9DNSEKNPU9cIhDqaGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) from 2016 looks as though there may be a vegetation issue from the viewpoint, whilst this image from flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/82409929@N08/28184103213/in/photolist-JWwTY2-rgpw3L-9b6QGC-71ArR8-SmQ2eH-69Bnos-G5UvEV-dXDcnp-7uCm2i-RTeHc-69Bno9-aWB8vx-9RGjoC-68CVC8-7Udijo-c2eGHA-q1vTSk-qosfkb-pByJEM-dYUctL-EGQ5Ym-ebGuLi-dNUq9r-dboESW-edSSGr-r9uBLk-qxo8bQ-rsXqxX-25oryY-pXxRbV-9YdbEN-GS5CEa-rFVndg-4nTQzD-4z5AY2-qNFC62-7mVw9y-pwdDXw-gyyhbh-hP8Nwt-cVSQej-ebMPBE-RMv3jw-dRYfeE-oSpBcL-e8zmex-bswqWc-b1BXzF-qXKyvq-qmWcqD), which appears to have been taken from a passing coach, suggests it may be OK if I stand in the road!
I think I'll risk it! Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: bobm on February 26, 2017, 17:30:37 The only problem with the road bridge is there is no footpath on the side you need and it is a reasonably busy road. Hence why the viewpoint was constructed I suppose.
Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 26, 2017, 18:37:48 So why did Brunel decide to build his tunnel at such an inconvenient location? :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: bobm on February 26, 2017, 19:24:34 Just passed through the tunnel westbound. Sorry Phil, too dark to see the state of the vegetation. ;D
Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: JayMac on February 26, 2017, 20:25:59 Just passed through the tunnel westbound. Sorry Phil, too dark to see the state of the vegetation. ;D That's tunnels for you. Tend to be dark. :P ;) ;D Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: Western Pathfinder on March 01, 2017, 07:40:17 This trip has just been mentioned on BBC Points West in the regional news segment in Breakfast that will bring people out to see Tornado .
Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: InTheSidings on March 01, 2017, 10:22:16 RTT indicates 48 minutes late departing Paddington.
Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: Western Pathfinder on March 01, 2017, 10:26:54 Did not get underway until 10:18 this morning don't know yet what caused the delay
Adjusted times up on RTT. Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: grahame on March 01, 2017, 10:50:24 Quote Anybody waiting for steam loco 60163 Tornado that due to a failed freight train in the Kensington area the stock has only just arrived in Paddington. Train expected to be 45-60 minutes late. Title: Re: The Saint David - Tornado, Wed 1st March Post by: PhilWakely on March 01, 2017, 17:46:14 Quote Anybody waiting for steam loco 60163 Tornado that due to a failed freight train in the Kensington area the stock has only just arrived in Paddington. Train expected to be 45-60 minutes late. After all of my planning (and fretting :-[), I was called into work, so did not manage to do any Tornado Photting today :( Title: 100mph by Tornado Post by: bradshaw on April 12, 2017, 09:41:05 Last night Tornado became the first steam loco to reach 100 mph since the end of Southern steam fifty years ago.
The special left Newcastle around 0240 and reached 100 mph north of York Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: Rhydgaled on April 12, 2017, 10:06:14 My reaction when I heard this on the radio this morning was "what's the point?". Bittern was allowed to do 90mph to mark the anniversary of fellow A4 Mallard's world steam speed record, but as far as I know there's no occasion to mark this time so why has Tornado been allowed to exceed the general 75mph restriction for mainline steam?
Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: bradshaw on April 12, 2017, 10:28:19 Possibly to allow authorisation of 90 mph running, the 100mph being the 10% overrun
Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: DidcotPunter on April 12, 2017, 10:29:47 My reaction when I heard this on the radio this morning was "what's the point?". Bittern was allowed to do 90mph to mark the anniversary of fellow A4 Mallard's world steam speed record, but as far as I know there's no occasion to mark this time so why has Tornado been allowed to exceed the general 75mph restriction for mainline steam? ICBW but I *think* it is in connection with allowing Tornado to run at up to 90mph on future trains. This will give them more flexibility on pathing on main lines as it will be better able to keep out of the way of other services. I'm presuming that this run was to demonstrate a 10% overspeed capability in line with other new trains. Edit: Pipped by bradshaw :D Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: broadgage on April 13, 2017, 23:08:45 Reports on the BBC website certainly implied that was a test intended to facilitate regular mainline running at 90 MPH.
Splendid ! ;D I hope that we will see charters hauled by Tornado at 90 MPH. Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 13, 2017, 23:34:25 On the West Somerset to Minehead, for example? ;) :D ;D
That was a joke, by the way: member 'broadgage' is very familiar with Minehead and the West Somerset Railway. :-X Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: broadgage on April 16, 2017, 12:15:03 Yes, 100MPH would be a bit much ON the WSR, but a rail tour or charter that reached 90 en-route to the preserved line could be attractive.
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: rower40 on April 19, 2017, 06:29:49 D*mn and Bl*st... CORRECTION - and in a good way!Holiday in Cornwall already booked, from 24th to 31st May, so I'll miss the opportunity of pulling the levers for Tornado during one of my shifts in Bodmin General signalbox. Tornado is doing some staff-only traction-learning runs on 31st May, and I've been rostered as signalman! This is so that Tornado's crew can learn the B&W route, and the B&W drivers can become familiar with how to work a new engine. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 19, 2017, 20:29:44 Oooh, you lucky bustard! :o ::) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: ellendune on April 19, 2017, 20:46:50 Oooh, you lucky bustard! :o ::) ;) :D ;D They don't have bustards in Cornwall - they are from Wiltshire! Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 19, 2017, 20:53:31 I know: they have choughs in Cornwall - just to be different. ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: GBM on April 20, 2017, 06:22:47 I know: they have choughs in Cornwall - just to be different. ;) :D ;D So rower40 is now a chough? :D Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: chuffed on April 20, 2017, 07:41:48 I take exception to that last post. I thought I was the only chuff(ed) around here.....and very much alive...(if only to thwart trainer who would be dead chuffed to be able to announce that I was indeed, dead. Chuffed).
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: rower40 on April 20, 2017, 17:57:04 I was extremely "choughed" to be chosen as signalman on that day...
Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: rower40 on April 21, 2017, 16:53:25 On 31st May, I'll be signalling Tornado at the Bodmin & Wenford. I hope it'll be going a <tad> slower than that when Handing over the token, at the end of the Bodmin General platform...
(It's a bay platform, and the line speed for token handover is 5mph!) Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 21, 2017, 17:02:25 With many thanks to you for posting that, rower40 ... but you do know that 31 May 2017 is a Wednesday, don't you?
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axHV2wx8RA :o ::) ;D Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: JayMac on April 21, 2017, 18:53:04 Without even clicking the link I know it's Jethro...
Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: Adelante_CCT on May 15, 2017, 18:55:14 Programme on BBC 1 local Northeast and Yorkshire tonight at 19:30 (Sky 955-957) about Tornados 100mph run
Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: Western Pathfinder on May 15, 2017, 23:11:24 The programe is now up on BBC IPlayer link below its well worth a watch
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rb16k/tornado-the-100mph-steam-engine. Title: Re: 100mph by Tornado Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 16, 2017, 23:14:34 I concur: it's half an hour of your life that is actually well worth spending in watching such a thrilling historic event. ;)
Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: rower40 on May 19, 2017, 08:07:45 It's official:
http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/U55235/2017-05-29 (http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/U55235/2017-05-29) This is the schedule for the light-loco (*) move of Tornado from Penzance (having brought the railtour in) to Bodmin Parkway Exchange sidings. (*) Plus support coach. Hence the need to run round at Penzance Up Loop Siding. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: bobm on May 29, 2017, 13:51:08 Tornado on its way to Penzance with the Cornishman Rail tour this morning.
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/torntgm.jpg) Closely following was the support loco which will then take the coaches forward on their trip while Tornado goes to Bodmin. (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tornsup2.jpg) With a stopping train in the loop at Dawlish Warren and an HST hard on its heels, the loco was run on the reversible line as far as Teignmouth to allow the HST to pass on the inside. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: bobm on May 29, 2017, 20:27:47 Tornado duly arrived at Bodmin before the light failed too much
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tornbod.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tornjun.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/torn3.jpg) Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: rower40 on June 03, 2017, 17:45:18 Not the normal view out of a workplace window...
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/rower40/SDC15398_zpstww7bf4p.jpg) The view from the (http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/rower40/SDC15399_zpsrfgn1237.jpg) And collecting the token as Tornado approaches the Bodmin General bufferstops. (http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/rower40/SDC15408_zpskagaj0dk.jpg) Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: Kernow Otter on June 03, 2017, 18:24:37 And people say we don't make anything in the UK anymore......
Took the Otter pups up to see Tornado earlier, and my daughter was massively impressed to learn that Tornado was a lot 'newer' than the down HST that pulled in alongside ! Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: rower40 on June 03, 2017, 18:39:37 Those white lamps above the buffers, that look like oil lamps? Housings for ultra-bright white LEDs, with red LEDs in the black boxes underneath - switchable from the cab. I had to wear my sunglasses when venturing onto the platform to collect the token.
These do not feature on the original A1 Peppercorn drawings... Another invisible-to-the-general-public modification; there's no water scoop in the tender, allowing more space for water. This could be something to do with the fewness-and-far-betweenness of water troughs on Britain's railways nowadays. Title: Re: Tornado to visit Bodmin Railway Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 03, 2017, 19:27:27 Many thanks for posting those absolutely brilliant pictures and the snippets of information here on the Coffee Shop forum, rower40. ;)
Title: Tornado along the sea wall - 23 Jun 2019 Post by: bobm on June 23, 2019, 14:37:01 Perfectly timed to coincide with high tide, 60163 Tornado passed along the seawall at Teignmouth this morning on the way to Par
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/torntgm0619.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/torntgm06192.jpg) Title: Re: Tornado along the sea wall - 23 Jun 2019 Post by: rower40 on June 24, 2019, 16:09:35 [Tongue In Cheek Mode:=ON]
And 15 seconds later, a wave broke over the boiler. The Thermal Stress sensor triggered (high temperature on inside, cold outside), and the loco declared itself a failure. No rescue loco available with compatible couplings and braking systems. Passengers evacuated by RIB across the estuary to Lympstone Commando, where the (armed) MOD security guard kept the gate shut; a spare Pacer was eventually found to take them to Exmouth for onward taxis. [Tongue In Cheek Mode:=OFF] Title: Re: Tornado along the sea wall - 23 Jun 2019 Post by: broadgage on July 09, 2019, 12:50:18 Of course the new blue signal aspects in the Dawlish area should give early warning if breaking waves are likely. ::)
Voyagers can then hide from the scary waves. IETs can see the blue signal and automatically select "Dawlish protective mode" which is similar to "wash mode" If an IET enters Dawlish protective mode more than twice a year, then an extra payment is due to Hitachi on account of the extra wear. Diagrams must therefore be planned such that any unit that has already been subjected to two Dawlish events is not avoidably subjected to a third. https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2019/04/dawlish-line-gets-the-blue-signal-to-proceed/ (https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2019/04/dawlish-line-gets-the-blue-signal-to-proceed/) Title: Re: Tornado along the sea wall - 23 Jun 2019 Post by: ellendune on July 09, 2019, 19:02:03 Of course the new blue signal aspects in the Dawlish area should give early warning if breaking waves are likely. ::) Voyagers can then hide from the scary waves. IETs can see the blue signal and automatically select "Dawlish protective mode" which is similar to "wash mode" If an IET enters Dawlish protective mode more than twice a year, then an extra payment is due to Hitachi on account of the extra wear. Diagrams must therefore be planned such that any unit that has already been subjected to two Dawlish events is not avoidably subjected to a third. https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2019/04/dawlish-line-gets-the-blue-signal-to-proceed/ (https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2019/04/dawlish-line-gets-the-blue-signal-to-proceed/) The article in the link says: Quote These signals have been trialed and put into services elsewhere in the World. Most notably in Luxembourg where drivers have stated the coastal line is now a much safer environment to drive a train. But Luxembourg has no coast ??? But then the article was dated 1st April 2019!!!! Title: Re: Tornado along the sea wall - 23 Jun 2019 Post by: IndustryInsider on July 09, 2019, 19:16:50 Is that the longest it’s taken us to spot a railway related April fool?!
Title: Re: Tornado along the sea wall - 23 Jun 2019 Post by: JayMac on July 09, 2019, 20:09:48 Is that the longest it’s taken us to spot a railway related April fool?! Err, no. http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21315.msg261784#msg261784 This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |