Title: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Btline on January 06, 2009, 21:58:11 I have just read this document, which is an interview with the head of FCC done one year into the FCC franchise (so 1 1/2 years ago).
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:FtYJt8rY0VoJ:www.railpro.co.uk/issues/pdfs/aug07interview.pdf I am shocked at this attitude. I do not like the tone in this - at all, nor do I like the way she laughs off the peak restrictions and ending of trolleys. She also does not seem to care that some people would be put off the railway "for good." But she then has the cheek to say that pricing people off is not the solution - changes tack. It is said that the fares from Peterborough are lower than GNER, without seeming to realise that GNER/NXEC operate expresses, so are bound to be more expensive! It is shown that FCC wanted to shift as many Cambridge commuters onto 'one' (NXEA now). Her past work is British Airways and First buses - so not railways. And clearly First Group and TfL fell out. But here is the big one: "FirstGroup has beenverysuccessful in its bidding, but we would never bid silly numbers." Enough said. Was not impressed, and I doubt passengers were either. I hope the attitude of FCC, and First in general has changed. >:( Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: 12hoursunday on January 07, 2009, 18:26:05 Her past work is British Airways and First buses - so not railways. Actually She started her railway career as a senior manager at First Great Western, was then head of Firstinfo, then briefly for First Somerset & Avon and then employed in the franchise team bidding for FCC. she has more First Railway experience than that of working on the buses Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Zoe on January 07, 2009, 18:30:21 It should be noted that when First took over the franchise they said "We aim to give customers what they want, not what we think they want or what is easy to deliver" How many customers wanted CDRs banned in the evening peak then?
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: devon_metro on January 07, 2009, 18:34:58 CDRs are banned in the evening peak on all other service operating out of London afaiaa so why shouldn't FCC?
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Exeter on January 07, 2009, 21:21:46 Speaking to staff on FGW both on train and at head office - she was not exactly highly respected as a manager. Think a party was held when she moved on!
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Timmer on January 07, 2009, 21:41:35 CDRs are banned in the evening peak on all other service operating out of London afaiaa so why shouldn't FCC? Are you sure about the D/M? I believe you will find that FCC and Cross Country are the only franchises at present that have evening restrictions on CDRs hence the amount of uproar that took place when FCC introduced this restriction.Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: devon_metro on January 07, 2009, 22:00:16 CDRs are banned in the evening peak on all other service operating out of London afaiaa so why shouldn't FCC? Are you sure about the D/M? I believe you will find that FCC and Cross Country are the only franchises at present that have evening restrictions on CDRs hence the amount of uproar that took place when FCC introduced this restriction.Fgw do out of London do they not? It suprises me that no other tocs do! Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Ollie on January 07, 2009, 22:16:36 London Terminals with evening peak restrictions (not just referring to CDR's)
Euston Paddington King's Cross St Pancras Stations such as Victoria, Charing Cross, London Bridge do not have restrictions in the evening Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Sleepy on January 07, 2009, 22:29:30 :) so do Liverpool Street to all destinations beyond Zones 1 - 6
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Ollie on January 07, 2009, 22:43:43 Aha, not sure how I forgot Liverpool Street.
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Btline on January 07, 2009, 22:45:44 It's not the restrictions in themselves (I am a fence sitter on that one), its the attitude. It seems like the introduction of the restrictions made her day, if you get my meaning.....
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Timmer on January 08, 2009, 07:04:24 It's not the restrictions in themselves (I am a fence sitter on that one), its the attitude. It seems like the introduction of the restrictions made her day, if you get my meaning..... I guess we will have to get used to TOCs 'getting nasty' with their customers as their subsidies drop and their premiums rise. One of the ways is to raise fares by stealth by tweaking with the restrictions when they can't be used as happened this week in some parts of the country when the fares went up on Monday.Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Timmer on January 08, 2009, 07:12:16 Fgw do out of London do they not? It suprises me that no other tocs do! They do indeed but there are no evening restrictions on CDRs on 'Thames' services. Savers yes as Ollie points out on terminals that are served by 'Intercity' services there are restrictions on these ever since the days of BR. There may also be historic restrictions on the use of CDRs on evening peak 'Intercity' services on the same time restrictions as Savers. Sorry to use old names for tickets, train services. Its just the easiet way to explain things. Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: 12hoursunday on January 08, 2009, 10:52:50 There are NO ticket restrictions at all on the 18.06 Paddington to Frome!
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: thetrout on January 08, 2009, 11:13:45 No restrictions on the 1630 Paddington - Taunton as far as i'm aware. The only problem i've ever had is using an off peak ticket to return on a Friday which apparently is frowned heavily upon... ;)
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: dog box on January 08, 2009, 13:55:50 trout you are wrong mate .....off peak day not valid,off peak day travelcards only valid after Pewsey.
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: thetrout on January 08, 2009, 14:40:29 Interesting That, I checked on the website and Off Peak tickets are allowed on that service to Taunton.
Key in on http://www.fgwtickets.co.uk London Padd - Taunton, Off Peak Return is available on that service at ^60 When I said about using off peak on a friday. I didn't use it on that service it was some XC service in Plymouth who informed me that return portion of an Off Peak Return couldn't be used on Fridays. Yet I think travelling on the 12:25 Plymouth - Exeter was off peak enough :P Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Zoe on January 08, 2009, 14:51:38 Key in on http://www.fgwtickets.co.uk London Padd - Taunton, Off Peak Return is available on that service at ^60 That is an Off Peak Return, not an Off Peak Day Return.Quote When I said about using off peak on a friday. I didn't use it on that service it was some XC service in Plymouth who informed me that return portion of an Off Peak Return couldn't be used on Fridays. Yet I think travelling on the 12:25 Plymouth - Exeter was off peak enough :P I did not know there were any Friday restrictions on an off peak return.Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: thetrout on January 08, 2009, 15:12:13 Ah, Fair enough :) Sorry :P
Well according to the very nice people at XC my ticket was not valid because I used the return portion on a Friday. However the train manager informed me that she wanted to catch a real fare dodger before Newton Abbot and politely told me not to do it again. Advice of which I have accepted but at the time was so blissfully unaware of :D Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Ollie on January 08, 2009, 15:46:42 I did not know there were any Friday restrictions on an off peak return. Neither did I to be honest ??? Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: dog box on January 08, 2009, 17:02:12 off peak day...is the old cheap day ticket whilst off peak is a saver
Title: Re: Absolutely Disgusted Post by: Btline on January 08, 2009, 18:08:58 Ah, Fair enough :) Sorry :P ;DWell according to the very nice people at XC my ticket was not valid because I used the return portion on a Friday. However the train manager informed me that she wanted to catch a real fare dodger before Newton Abbot and politely told me not to do it again. Advice of which I have accepted but at the time was so blissfully unaware of :D This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |