Title: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Lee on October 22, 2008, 09:23:46 Travel journalist Simon Calder takes a journey from Portishead to Minehead in Down The Line, a BBC West documentary exploring the legacy of the Beeching railway cuts, to be broadcast on BBC One West at 4.25pm on Sunday 26 October (link below.)
http://www.portisheadrailwaygroup.org/html/bbctvprog.html Simon examines the arguments for reopening some of the branch lines axed by Dr Beeching in the Sixties. BBC West Down The Line is one of 10 regional programmes each looking at the impact of the Beeching cuts on their areas. Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Ray Tostevin on October 24, 2008, 17:57:02 We've had lots of interest in our Beeching film going out on BBC One (West) this Sunday, as Simon Calder takes to the road - by car, bike and train - to see for himself branch lines axed by Beeching which Calder says should be re-opened as a priority. Simon Calder's Beeching journey is part of BBC4's continuing season of programmes celebrating the Golden Age of Steam.
Ray Tostevin director - GRACE Productions http://www.agraceproduction.com/projects.php?pid=39&type=p Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Lee on October 24, 2008, 18:16:45 Welcome to the forum, Ray, and I look forward to watching the programme.
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 24, 2008, 21:51:46 While not specific to the Portishead or Minehead lines, another BBC video report covers the Beeching cuts of railway jobs in southern England in the 1960s: see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7689725.stm
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: grahame on October 26, 2008, 17:42:03 Ray ... thanks for following up Lee ... and for making this ;) - a good program which I watched and enjoyed (and I agree the sentiment).
It's very poigniant to read at the end that your Portishead Commuter has given up on her car and moved into Bristol. And the question comes "how does one actually MAKE the political will to sort out Portishead ... and Minehead ... (and may I add my own home town in Wiltshire too, with a 11 hour 54 minute gap between trains from 07:17 that render the service useless. But perhaps we still have that service only to stop us claining to be the largest town in the UK that's not rail connected!) Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Lee on October 26, 2008, 18:13:52 It's very poigniant to read at the end that your Portishead Commuter has given up on her car and moved into Bristol. I know a commuter who gave up on the bus and moved out of Portishead.... http://www.canber.co.uk/?q=node/38 Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 26, 2008, 18:33:07 ;D
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Timmer on October 26, 2008, 19:09:17 As usual its politics that stands in the way of getting these and many other lines in England reopened. They don't seem to have that problem north of the border with lines reopening in Scotland with talk of more to come.
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 26, 2008, 22:04:54 For those interested in a summary of the programme: from the BBC - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content/articles/2008/10/17/beeching_feature.shtml
However, despite the BBC's claim that Quote The documentary can be seen on BBC One in the West region at 4.25pm on Sunday, 26 October. ... it isn't, so far. ::)It will also be available on the BBC^s iPlayer for seven days after the original transmission. (See also http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=3744.0 for other disappointed viewers) Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008 Post by: Ray Tostevin on October 27, 2008, 18:40:16 Hi - thanks for the positive comments on last night's film.
For what it's worth, my personal view is that its incredible that 6 years after ^15m of Government subsidy (ie taxpayers' money) was put towards the reopening of the freight rail service at Portbury, that the people of Portishead are STILL waiting for their passenger rail service to reopen. Why the continued delay? Perhaps the local authority is too busy having behind-closed-doors meetings with Network Rail, when it could be lobbying the Dft to stump up the extra cash, so this branch line can finally reopen.... But then, as transport consultant David Henshaw said in the programme, that would require real political will - and perhaps that isn't quite yet forthcoming. Incidentially, you may well be interested to know that 6 of last night's films are due to be repeated on BBC 4 next month. Dates and times to be confirmed. Ray Tostevin director - GRACE Productions Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Lee on October 27, 2008, 19:06:57 Friends Of Suburban Bristol Railways will launch their Portishead and Northern Bristol Rail Campaign at Temple Meads Station on Thursday 30 October. Supporters will be holding maps of the rail network and a large postcard addressed to West of England Partnership. The event will start at 11 am on Platform 1 and last about 15 minutes (link below.)
http://www.fosbr.org.uk/news.php?newsid=0000000171 Edit by Chris to include link to coverage in Western Daily Press, at http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/news/Campaign-reopen-Bristol-Portishead-railway-line/article-430443-detail/article.html Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Phil on October 27, 2008, 19:16:48 'Down the Line' is showing on BBC4 at 20:30 on 30th November
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008 Post by: Btline on October 27, 2008, 19:19:15 Ah, will this version be on iPlayer, or will we get to watch different regions?
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008 Post by: John R on October 27, 2008, 20:41:01 Hi - thanks for the positive comments on last night's film. Ray, yes it was an excellent program. So well done. The item on the West Somerset Railway might have made reference to the limited through service from Minehead to Bristol which ran last year. As s family who rode on the FGW HST Charity special to Minehead this year (a great day, and well done to FGW for facilitating it) it struck us that a daily through service to Minehead in the summer would provide a lot of income to businesses in Minehead through day trippers. For what it's worth, my personal view is that its incredible that 6 years after ^15m of Government subsidy (ie taxpayers' money) was put towards the reopening of the freight rail service at Portbury, that the people of Portishead are STILL waiting for their passenger rail service to reopen. Why the continued delay? Perhaps the local authority is too busy having behind-closed-doors meetings with Network Rail, when it could be lobbying the Dft to stump up the extra cash, so this branch line can finally reopen.... But then, as transport consultant David Henshaw said in the programme, that would require real political will - and perhaps that isn't quite yet forthcoming. Incidentially, you may well be interested to know that 6 of last night's films are due to be repeated on BBC 4 next month. Dates and times to be confirmed. Ray Tostevin director - GRACE Productions Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 27, 2008, 22:42:23 From the BBC, in response to my complaint:
Quote Dear Chris Thank you for taking the time to contact BBC iPlayer Support. Unfortunately we are experiencing technical issues with this particular episode, however we are aware of the issues and do hope to have it rectified as soon as possible. If you have any other enquiries then please do contact us again. Once again thank you for taking the time to contact BBC iPlayer Support. Regards BBC iPlayer Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 30, 2008, 23:58:21 Further press coverage:
Quote After the boost of having its cause highlighted on television, the campaign to reopen Portishead railway continues to push ahead. The railway was closed in the notorious Beeching cuts of the 1960s and featured in a BBC documentary on Sunday. Travel journalist Simon Calder experienced the frustration thousands of Portishead motorists face every day trying to get out of the town. The day the show was filmed coincided with the start of the roadworks on the Avonmouth Bridge and resulted in journeys to Bristol of two hours or more. He said he believed it was essential the line was reopened as a matter of priority. See http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/clevedon/news/Rail-campaign-gathers-steam/article-437200-detail/article.html Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on October 31, 2008, 18:44:11 while were on the subject of iplayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00dvtlw/Coast_Shorts_Brunels_Railway/ Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: John R on December 31, 2008, 20:42:58 An interesting development on the WSR is the news that they have put in for planning permission for a platform at Norton Fitzwarren, just off the main line. This will be on the running line, not the newly constructed triangle, and thus could take services from Taunton. It's due to be operational by Aug 2009.
http://www.wsra.org.uk/nf01jan2009.htm Although nothing is being mentioned, a shuttle service from Taunton (or even just 1 or 2 trains daily) to Norton F would take less than half the time that the previous shuttles to Bishops Lydeard were taking (20mins+ IIRC), particularly now the down relief has been raised to 40mph. And hence be much more viable, and even possible in layover time of units at Taunton. I guess there would be some interesting questions re signalling trains from both directions into the platform, but it is not impossible that a second platform is then built on the parallel side of the triangle for services arriving from and departing to BL. So maybe 2010 will see a more regular link with the WSR and the main line. Meanwhile, anyone know if we are likely to see another charity special to Minehead next year? I know it wasn't well supported last year, but with the glitches in advertising sorted out, and enough advance notice, it could be a real winner. Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: John R on January 09, 2009, 22:55:53 and Network Rail today publicise the line speed improvement at Taunton, and make reference to special trains to the WSR.
http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4039&NewsAreaID=2&SearchCategoryID=7 Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 09, 2009, 23:05:52 Brilliant: thanks for posting this, John! ;)
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: John R on January 09, 2009, 23:15:40 Out of interest, I wonder which news organisations (if any) have made anything of this press release. I accept it's probably not the most earth shattering PR release there's been, but I suspect given it's good news, it won't be reported.
Except on the Coffee Shop that is! Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 09, 2009, 23:36:41 No, they're all busy calling for heads to roll over WCML and Euston problems! ::)
Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008) Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 10, 2009, 00:51:43 No, they're all busy calling for heads to roll over WCML and Euston problems! ::) theres something more going on with the wcml.... its more than a coincidence Title: Re: BBC Programme On Beeching Features Portishead And Minehead Lines (26/10/2008 Post by: Btline on January 10, 2009, 17:30:07 Its because the upgrade was done in the cheap - it only cost 9 billion. It was also scaled down.
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