Title: On This Day in History - 4th September 1966 Post by: Electric train on September 04, 2008, 22:33:41 On This Day in History - 1966: The Great Central Railway closes as part of the Beeching cuts
Title: Re: On This Day in History - 4th September 1966 Post by: eightf48544 on September 05, 2008, 10:02:18 Very sad day should have been HS0 with Eurostars to the north. Watkin laid it out to be a high speed line to the East Midlands, Yorkshire and the North East.
It was killed due to rivalry between the Midland and GC which spilled over into BR days, once the expresses were withdrawn in 1959 and the line was handed over to the LM Region it was doomed. Also the drop off in domestic and industrial coal to London and South East. plus less iron ore trraffic from the East Midlands via Woodford Halse and the SMJ to Stratford and the new racecourse curve to South Wales hastened the end. Apparently it was considered for a high speed diesel service (sort of pre blue Pullman) to Leicester, Nottingham. Sheffield and Derby (via GN link at Bullwell). I once met someone who had worked on the project at BR HQ, but the LM closed it before it could be implemented . Title: Re: On This Day in History - 4th September 1966 Post by: Btline on September 05, 2008, 20:26:01 I can see why they removed passenger trains (complete duplication of existing facilities).
But they should have concentrated freight on the route and take freight off the other busy lines (i.e. WCML). Then it could have been upgraded easily to HS standard in the later part of the century when HS rail was becoming common - baring in mind that BR still ran more 100 mph /100+ mph trains in 1990! It was the 90s when the Europe built lots more 200 mph lines (and we should have built the CTRL and the GC route then!). Title: Re: On This Day in History - 4th September 1966 Post by: Electric train on September 05, 2008, 21:06:19 I can see why they removed passenger trains (complete duplication of existing facilities). But they should have concentrated freight on the route and take freight off the other busy lines (i.e. WCML). Then it could have been upgraded easily to HS standard in the later part of the century when HS rail was becoming common - baring in mind that BR still ran more 100 mph /100+ mph trains in 1990! It was the 90s when the Europe built lots more 200 mph lines (and we should have built the CTRL and the GC route then!). Beeching was not far sighted in that way, it recognised the need to modernise and streamline BR but the commissioners of the report, the DoTp, saw motorways and road transport as the modern way and railways as worn out, expensive and old hat. Copies of the Beeching report can be seen here - http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docSummary.php?docID=13 (http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docSummary.php?docID=13) http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docSummary.php?docID=35 (http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docSummary.php?docID=35) Once the LM Region of BR had used the GC as it blockade buster for the electrification of the WCML in the 60's it needed to show a return on the investment to the BRB and DoTp closing the GC ensured traffic had to use the WCML, ironic today that the former "London Extension" of the GC is once again used for that purpose and even more so as the Chiltern Line (formerly "London Extension" of the GC) is seen as a prime route out of London for development to the Midlands and the North. BR and the DoTp still used the Beeching formula well into the late 1970's as justification for closing lines and stations, including the Bourne End to High Wycombe line which was not in the original Beeching report as down for closure or station closures. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |