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Title: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: thefab442 on August 06, 2008, 18:04:10
Maybe slightly off the usual topic, but I notice that on Saturday 8th/Sunday 9th November, South West Trains will be running a Yeovil Pen Mill - Exeter St Davids shuttle service, as well as FGW being diverted over the West of England line. Good stuff!


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: Timmer on August 06, 2008, 18:43:54
Some good photo opportunities to be had then.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on August 06, 2008, 23:23:36
think my camera will have to come out


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: eightf48544 on August 07, 2008, 09:36:34
Can understand FGW using the Yeovil route but what's the logic behind a SWT Exeter Yeovil Pen Mill dervice?  Are they connecting with  the Weymouth Bristol service?

Or are SWT going via Westbury and back to Salisbury via Warminister?


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on August 07, 2008, 18:27:31
im not sure we need an insider! but to be honest with you i know from experiance getting to yeovil (well the town anyway) from exeter is a nightmare!!!??? the exeter waterloo ones go via y j which is nowhere near yeaovil town and its a long walk belive me! i know its probably impossible because of the fact that its a single line most of the way but something from exeter direction to pen mill would be great!


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: Btline on August 07, 2008, 20:15:57
They need to axe Y J and rebuild it a few miles east as an interchange with the Wessex line.

Call it Y Exchange, and rebuild the other station as Y Town as close to the town as possible.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: swlines on August 08, 2008, 04:07:00
Can understand FGW using the Yeovil route but what's the logic behind a SWT Exeter Yeovil Pen Mill dervice?  Are they connecting with  the Weymouth Bristol service?

Or are SWT going via Westbury and back to Salisbury via Warminister?

It's due to a lack of reversing capacity at Yeovil Junction while diversions are taking place. The shuttle service in operation will connect with SWT services that would normally run through to Exeter, but are terminating at Yeovil to allow diverted HSTs.

SWT are running normal route throughout the diversions.

As for Btline's suggestion of rebuilding Yeovil, Yeovil Exchange sounds a bit crap as a name... just plain Yeovil would sound better. Or provide a park and ride service from the outskirts of the town, calling at the train station(s) and into town. Sorted for less cash than building three Olympic swimming pools.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: Timmer on August 08, 2008, 07:01:46
With SWT providing a shuttle service between Exeter and Yeovil, does this mean FGW will operate fast services between Exeter and Yeovil as in the past they have covered for SWT by stopping at all stations on the line?


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: swlines on August 08, 2008, 08:34:43
Not confirmed yet, but the preliminary timings I was given seem to suggest so. I wouldn't be surprised if one GW per day called at the shacks like Feniton and stuff. One of the SWT shuttles on Sunday is fast from Pinhoe to Yeovil Jn tho.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: eightf48544 on August 08, 2008, 09:03:30
Not confirmed yet, but the preliminary timings I was given seem to suggest so. I wouldn't be surprised if one GW per day called at the shacks like Feniton and stuff. One of the SWT shuttles on Sunday is fast from Pinhoe to Yeovil Jn tho.

Odd missing out Axminister if not the others. Is FGW stopping one of their's at Axminister to compensate. If so what fares will apply?


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: swlines on August 08, 2008, 09:07:22
Normal any permitted fares apply throughout the diversions.

I think its more surprising missing out Honiton due to the passing loop there. I'll post the full timings of the SWT services that weekend when I get home from holiday.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill to be serviced by SWT
Post by: thefab442 on August 08, 2008, 12:47:46
Remember the SO 11:20 Waterloo - Paignton misses out Axminster, but calls at Honiton so as Mr Cairns suggests, Honiton is more suprising.

Anyway here are the initial SWT Saturday timings... notice there are a number with very odd calling patterns!


Title: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: penmill on February 11, 2011, 23:56:10
Just an Idea cause not many people use the bus.they all walk due to the price


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: laird on February 13, 2011, 02:22:11
I'm sure it could work technically, the question would become profitability and scheduling I guess?
Is there sufficient time to travel between Pen Mill and Junction allowing for the 5 minute connecting time at both ends or would the passengers end up with a long wait having just missed the connection?
Perhaps once GoCo have proven the operation on the Medstead route they might be tempted to try a Yeovil shuttle?


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: paul7575 on February 13, 2011, 12:18:44
I suppose this depends on whether it is seen as a means of connecting between the two routes, or primarily as a way of getting from Yeovil Jn to the town. As Pen Mill isn't particularly central either I don't see the latter being a major advantage.

If the timetable was designed for line to line interchanges is there any real suppressed demand?  I believe GoCo have already worked out there is no need for a service to Yeovil Jn from the north, so presumably it isn't seen as a potential source of passengers.

Paul


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: laird on February 14, 2011, 01:27:06
Sadly the branches to Yeovil Town went a long time ago, if they had been there it probably would have been a good candidate for the PPM.
Go Co may not have seen supressed demand but I don't suppose they were thinking of a frequent all day service?
Or was Penmill thinking of a particular demand in mind?


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: eightf48544 on February 14, 2011, 11:28:54
I see that PPM Car 12 is still not running on the Mid Hants, trouble with the LPG supply.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: mjones on February 14, 2011, 11:46:55
Why does it use LPG anyway? A non-standard fuel, requiring specialist storage and handling facilities, that doesn't actually offer signficant environmental benefits for this application in comparison with diesel? I seem to recall that arguments about the LPG storage site caused delays at Stourbridge as well. I'm sure the PPM's more widespread introduction would be made much easier if it used more standardised engineering practices where possible.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 14, 2011, 20:19:44
I wouldn't like to be the person having to handle the paperwork for a Junction - Pen Mill shuttle using a PPM! I assume that route would necessitate them "mixing it" with heavy rail vehicles on both lines, which given their very lightweight construction may be an issue in terms of crashworthiness. The Stourbridge branchline where LM use them now is essentially isolated, so they are not sharing a line with heavy rail equipment in passenger service.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: laird on February 14, 2011, 22:06:04
Ooh thats an interesting thought, yes at both ends of the journey it would share track with the heavy rail network train. It does make sense therefore as to why they have appeared on routes which are separate from the mainline or in the case of the latest route presumably on a one train working basis. I guess if the test works then perhaps we might see it try to open up more preserved lines as commuter routes?


Title: Obstruction at Yeovil 18/10/2011
Post by: tramway on October 18, 2011, 10:10:29
06:40 Weymouth to Bristol Parkway due 09:28

This train will be terminated at Yeovil Pen Mill.It will no longer call at: Castle Cary, Bruton, Frome, Westbury, Trowbridge, Bradford-On-Avon, Avoncliff, Freshford, Bath Spa, Oldfield Park, Keynsham, Bristol Temple Meads, Lawrence Hill, Stapleton Road, Filton Abbey Wood and Bristol Parkway.This is due to an obstruction on the line. Last Updated: 18/10/2011 07:10

This normally forms the 07.24 off Trowbridge and is 4 car and very busy. We had 2 car 150/1 instead.

And a big thumbs up to whoever removed the blinding floodlight above the entrance to platform 1 on the ticket office wall.


Title: Re: Obstruction at Yeovil 18/10/2011
Post by: 158747 on October 18, 2011, 12:12:06
This was caused by power cables across the line near Bruton.
The 07.24 off Trowbridge is the 05.33 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway, which was terminated at Castle Cary.


Title: Re: Obstruction at Yeovil 18/10/2011
Post by: tramway on October 18, 2011, 13:41:12
The 07.24 off Trowbridge is the 05.33 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway, which was terminated at Castle Cary.

Oooops :-[ of course it does. Must memorise all of timetable 26, or whichever it is.

Anyway guard apologised as we approached BRI and explained the lack of stock due to the obstruction.


Title: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: martyjon on July 06, 2019, 22:44:57
Tonights 20.23 Weymouth to Bristol delayed at Yeovil by 16 minutes due to congestion, congestion at Yeovil  ???


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: grahame on July 07, 2019, 05:59:55
Tonights 20.23 Weymouth to Bristol delayed at Yeovil by 16 minutes due to congestion, congestion at Yeovil  ???

Single line Yeovil Pen Mill to Castle Cary.  Single line Yeovil Pen Mill to Maiden Newton. The congestion was earlier on as the train headed down to Weymouth - didn't arrive in Weymouth until after it was due to leave on the way back.   It did stop on the way back at Yeovil for a minute or too longer than scheduled - but then on a Summer Saturday evening with good weather, coming back from a day at the seaside, I suspect this delay was more passenger volume and behaviour than rail operational!


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: martyjon on July 07, 2019, 06:47:54
Tonights 20.23 Weymouth to Bristol delayed at Yeovil by 16 minutes due to congestion, congestion at Yeovil  ???
Single line Yeovil Pen Mill to Castle Cary.  Single line Yeovil Pen Mill to Maiden Newton. The congestion was earlier on as the train headed down to Weymouth - didn't arrive in Weymouth until after it was due to leave on the way back.   It did stop on the way back at Yeovil for a minute or too longer than scheduled - but then on a Summer Saturday evening with good weather, coming back from a day at the seaside, I suspect this delay was more passenger volume and behaviour than rail operational!

Then why don't they tell the truth, ' The delay was caused by the late running of the inbound service '.

Why didn't they do a ' Hednesford ', turn the train around at Dorchester West, impractical I know on such a pleasant day. Could go on arguing for days on this one.


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: grahame on July 07, 2019, 06:55:51
Then why don't they tell the truth, ' The delay was caused by the late running of the inbound service '.

I think they did (tell the truth) - congestion at Yeovil.  Mind you, in best "Yes Minister" terms - the congestion at Yeovil had been an hour or two earlier.

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Why didn't they do a ' Hednesford ', turn the train around at Dorchester West, impractical I know on such a pleasant day. Could go on arguing for days on this one.

I suspect that just as with Hednesdford the most practical call was made.  Probably a packed train of Weymouth with little or no knock-on to any later services in the day.  Any lessons for improvement would relate to the initial congestion which we haven't even started to look at  ;D


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: JayMac on July 07, 2019, 11:52:08
What is a "Hednesford"?


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: grahame on July 07, 2019, 12:15:52
What is a "Hednesford"?

Wikipedia ...

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Hednesford is a market town and civil parish in Staffordshire, England, within Cannock Chase District. It adjoins Cannock Chase to the north, and the town of Cannock to the south.

For the purpose of this thread, turning a public transport service that's running late around before it reaches its final destination so it can pick up its return path on time.


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: JayMac on July 07, 2019, 13:53:20
And this obscure reference is a regular occurance in this Staffordshire backwater?

Can't say I've ever heard it before. Perhaps more appropriate for our area would be doing a "Clifton Down". :P


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: grahame on July 07, 2019, 14:03:12
And this obscure reference is a regular occurance in this Staffordshire backwater?

Can't say I've ever heard it before. Perhaps more appropriate for our area would be doing a "Clifton Down". :P

It's infection from another thread where this had come up with the same group of us posting:
Original story at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48887425
First ref http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20898.msg268664#msg268664
More at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20898.msg268679#msg268679

Yes, "doing a Clifton Down" might fit.   Or even "doing a Reading" when trains are so late they don't made Paddington!


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: infoman on July 07, 2019, 17:11:18
Not to mention it being called a Great Malvern


Title: Re: Congestion at Yeovil
Post by: rogerpatenall on July 08, 2019, 11:07:56
or, in the future, a Yeovil?


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: grahame on February 23, 2020, 07:27:48
Sadly the branches to Yeovil Town went a long time ago, if they had been there it probably would have been a good candidate for the PPM.

Pictures Somerset Live (https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/story-yeovils-forgotten-third-railway-3861542) this morning.

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In October 1966 the last passenger trains departed, and five months later - having been used for freight and parcel traffic - the station closed completely.

The loss of the station - which followed the culling of Hendford Halt in 1964 - and the closure of the Yeovil to Taunton line, left the town in the ludicrous position of having no direct rail link between the two largest towns in the region.

It is a farcical situation that persists to this very day.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: bradshaw on February 23, 2020, 08:43:42
Yeovil’s first station was at Hendford and opened by the Bristol and Exeter in 1853. It was at the bottom of Hendford Hill, where Bradfords is now. In by 1856 the line had been extended to Yeovil Pen Mill to meet the Wilts, Somerset and Weymouth Railway allowing construction materials to be brought to the site.
Pen Mill station opened in September 1856 by the WS&WR and extended to Weymouth the following January.
B&E services were extended from Hendford to Pen Mill in February 1857.

Brian Jackson’s book Yeovil - 159 years of Railways” is a good reference; p26/7 for photos of Hendford station.

Hendford halt was opened in 1932 to service the developing Westland’s site.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: SandTEngineer on February 23, 2020, 08:58:03
Yeovil’s first station was at Hendford and opened by the Bristol and Exeter in 1853. It was at the bottom of Hendford Hill, where Bradfords is now. In by 1856 the line had been extended to Yeovil Pen Mill to meet the Wilts, Somerset and Weymouth Railway allowing construction materials to be brought to the site.
Pen Mill station opened in September 1856 by the WS&WR and extended to Weymouth the following January.
B&E services were extended from Hendford to Pen Mill in February 1857.

Brian Jackson’s book Yeovil - 159 years of Railways” is a good reference; p26/7 for photos of Hendford station.

Hendford halt was opened in 1932 to service the developing Westland’s site.

Puts the complexities of building HS2 in the shade..... ;D


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: paul7575 on February 23, 2020, 12:51:46
My question about Parry People Movers, is will there ever be another order?  They’ve obviously found a bit of niche in Stourbridge, but is it really the only opportunity?

Paul


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: TonyK on February 23, 2020, 13:36:44
My question about Parry People Movers, is will there ever be another order?  They’ve obviously found a bit of niche in Stourbridge, but is it really the only opportunity?

Paul

It's a good question. There are probably may routes on which they could be used for the last few miles from an extant line along a mothballed line. Some of those may merit a "proper" rail service, though, and we all know what happens when temporary measures are put in place on a railway.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: didcotdean on February 23, 2020, 14:53:01
I'd be interested in the reaction if this was suggested between Cholsey and Wallingford  ;D


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: grahame on February 23, 2020, 15:38:50
My question about Parry People Movers, is will there ever be another order?  They’ve obviously found a bit of niche in Stourbridge, but is it really the only opportunity?

Paul

It's a good question. There are probably may routes on which they could be used for the last few miles from an extant line along a mothballed line. Some of those may merit a "proper" rail service, though, and we all know what happens when temporary measures are put in place on a railway.

One can imagine on current mothballed and freight lines and short light relays (most of these intentionally provocative! and members will rule them out straight away!)
Lostwithiel to almost-Fowey
Bere Alston to Tavistock
Newton Abbott to Heathfield
Taunton to Bishop's Lydeard
Bedminster to Ashton Gate
Avonmouth to Chitterning
Yate to Iron Acton
Kemble to Cirencester
Swindon to Taw Valley
Oxford to Cowley
Honeybourne to Long Marston
Ashchurch to Tewkesbury
Cholsey to Wallingford  :D
Southall to Brentford
Andover to Ludgershall
Totton to Fawley
Burbage to Marlborough
Alton to Four Oaks
Aberdare to Hirwaun
Ystrad Mynach to Bedlinog
Neath to Aberdulais
Maesteg to Nantyfflion
Pontardulais to GCG
Letterston to Trecwm
Newport to Docks
Problem with any of these ... big setup costs these days.  If they succeed they need something with more capacity, and if they fail it's been money poorly spent.   As independent tramways, perhaps?


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: eightf48544 on February 23, 2020, 16:24:27
I think the main problem with the PPM currently is capacity. Having travelled on it on a Saturday morning to and from Stourbridge Town. With a 10 minute service most trains from Stourbridge T were full and standing and the the trains from the junction weren't empty either.

It would have been interesting to be there to see the return journies in the afternoon.

Also not sure of its climbing ability, Ystrad Mynach to Bedlinog might be beyond its capabilities, although capacity would probably not be a problem


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: Reginald25 on February 23, 2020, 16:25:21
More seriously and current, it would be helpful if a safer walking route were to be established between the two Yeovil stations. I walked from PenMill to Junction along a fast but no pathway road, until a footpath sign pointed to the Junction stn. Returning, I eventually got a taxi, but only by taking one that had dropped someone off, no taxi company could send out a car for a couple of hours then (it was a Sunday).


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: johnneyw on February 23, 2020, 17:57:35
Just had a look at the current (Dec 2020) PPM newsletter. Looks like there's some interesting R&D going on in conjunction with a local college into a new self powered bogie. I've long felt there have been overlooked opportunities for their technologies, especially when coupled with the accompanying new ligher, cheaper and faster track tech.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: JontyMort on February 23, 2020, 19:06:14
One can imagine on current mothballed and freight lines and short light relays (most of these intentionally provocative! and members will rule them out straight away!)

<snip>

Alton to Four Oaks

<snip>


That might need quite a large flywheel, Graham!

The big problem seems to be the need to operate the beast on a “one engine in steam” basis - fine for Stourbridge, of course.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: grahame on February 23, 2020, 19:17:27
One can imagine on current mothballed and freight lines and short light relays (most of these intentionally provocative! and members will rule them out straight away!)

<snip>
Alton to Four Oaks
<snip>

That might need quite a large flywheel, Graham!

The big problem seems to be the need to operate the beast on a “one engine in steam” basis - fine for Stourbridge, of course.

Darn it - make it (Medstead and) Four Marks then.  I remember numbers not names.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: JayMac on February 25, 2020, 00:34:40
More seriously and current, it would be helpful if a safer walking route were to be established between the two Yeovil stations.

Certainly would be helpful now that there's no longer a direct bus link between the two stations.

There is however a nascent train service. Around 8 services each way on weekdays. 3 on Saturdays, and 1 on Sundays. These are done mostly for operational convenience by South Western Railway, rather than as a planned service between the two stations.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 25, 2020, 07:36:58
Looking at the map, I've wondered why no-one has ever proposed a west-to-south curve to the east of Yeovil Junction to allow the Westbury - Weymouth trains to go into Yeovil Junction and reverse. It'd slow down the overall journey time, but it'd improve the connectivity and cut out the need for a shuttle bus or the people mover.

Or perhaps it has been proposed and there's sound reasons Why Not.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: rogerw on February 25, 2020, 07:47:48
It has been proposed in the past as the earthworks are there but there has never been enough money in the piggy bank
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Yeovil/@50.9251964,-2.6120879,854m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487214c92446a7b5:0x9d6e9767b709360d!8m2!3d50.942061!4d-2.633308 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Yeovil/@50.9251964,-2.6120879,854m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487214c92446a7b5:0x9d6e9767b709360d!8m2!3d50.942061!4d-2.633308)


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: grahame on February 25, 2020, 08:05:38
It has been proposed in the past as the earthworks are there but there has never been enough money in the piggy bank

Another interesting thought is a low level platform on the Weymouth line ... the whole becoming known as "Somersetshire and Dorsetshire Parkway" perhaps, being on the border. Perhaps the distance to the existing platforms at Junction would be too far, and the "in the lanes" status of the station mean that access didn't work as a Parkway.

With trains reversing at junction and a fresh track over the old (goods only) alignment from there to the south, the long single section to Maiden Newton would be just that couple of minutes quicker and perhaps be an enabler for an hourly service?  You would need two platforms accessed off the line from Weymouth though.  And I do wonder about excursion trains, etc - leave in what would become the avoiding curve, or force them all to run round or be top 'n tail?


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: bradshaw on February 25, 2020, 08:24:47
The south to west earthworks probably date from the 1860s when the Clifton Maybank spur was put it to the transfer goods shed. There was a signal box at the end of the north curve. Some of this track is still there and used by the Yeovil Railway Centre, as is the transfer shed.
However to southern curve was never put in as far as I can see.

In the 1980s there were ‘plans’ to add a station where the two lines cross. However costs escalated as the specification developed and the scheme was dropped.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: TonyK on February 26, 2020, 19:53:43
Darn it - make it (Medstead and) Four Marks then.  I remember numbers not names.

Four Marks, Now!


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: stuving on February 26, 2020, 20:07:05
Darn it - make it (Medstead and) Four Marks then.  I remember numbers not names.

Four Marks, Now!

All Hopwoods?


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: TonyK on February 26, 2020, 20:31:41
All Hopwoods?

grahame remembers numbers, not names, so I had in mind Mark I, Mark II, Mark III, etc, to keep a rolling stock theme.


Title: Re: Parry people mover for Pen Mill To Yeovil Junction tains
Post by: JayMac on February 26, 2020, 22:36:38
There are now five Marks in rolling stock. Mk5 SLE/SLEP/SLEDs, FOs and RLOs are in use with Caledonian Sleeper. Mk5A TFs and TSs are in use with Transpennine Express.


Title: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: PhilWakely on July 26, 2021, 20:59:45

I don't think much is moving around Yeovil Pen Mill at the moment (https://www.facebook.com/groups/300826593438001/posts/1742876145899698/)


Title: Re: A little wet in Yeovil!
Post by: grahame on July 27, 2021, 15:13:17
I don't think much is moving around Yeovil Pen Mill at the moment

Yikes!


Title: Re: A little wet in Yeovil!
Post by: stuving on July 27, 2021, 15:44:42
I don't think much is moving around Yeovil Pen Mill at the moment

Yikes!

and yet ... the disruption lasted only two hours. One GWR train from Weymouth was an hour late, two going there were cancelled "due to severe flooding (X2)", and an SWR train to Westbury was also cancelled, but "due to flooding (JK)". Obviously SWR use a different dipstick. After then one return service from Weymouth was lost too, but that was it. I guess that's typical of flash flooding.


Title: Re: A little wet in Yeovil!
Post by: broadgage on July 27, 2021, 17:24:20
A lot depends on the type of flooding.
A fast moving flood, even if not deep, can wash away the ballast, undermine platforms and other structures, thereby causing long term disruption until repairs can be done.

A flood of stagnant or slow moving water does little harm, provided that electrical equipment for signaling is not submerged. Services can often be resumed as soon as it drains away.


Title: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: 72c on November 28, 2021, 16:13:17
Does anybody know what the problem is with the point work at YPM?


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: bradshaw on November 29, 2021, 08:23:37
Since both Penzance sleepers ran via Pen Mill last night one has to wonder!


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: PhilWakely on November 29, 2021, 09:07:21
Does anybody know what the problem is with the point work at YPM?

Since both Penzance sleepers ran via Pen Mill last night one has to wonder!

Anecdotal (but unconfirmed) evidence suggests that only one platform road is accessible at the moment, so it is not possible for trains to pass at the station. The guilty pointwork is at the north end of the station.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: bradshaw on November 30, 2021, 14:23:11
Network Rail Wessex have provided an update on the work being done, along with photos.

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We've been using a New Track Construction train to install a mile of track in the #Chetnole area. It's the third and final track renewal in this closure. As it travels it lays sleepers, lines up rails on top of them and clips them into place
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Contrast this modern technology with what was on this line before - we found that some of the track in this area dates back to 1958!
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I seem to remember that some of t he original CWR laid near Crewkerne was relaid here many years ago.

At the same time I asked NR Wessex about the points at Yeovil and this was their reply
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unfortunately the points were damaged last week. They are going to be repaired tomorrow.
Edit to add Twitter link
https://twitter.com/networkrailwssx/status/1465642891708182528?s=21


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: Oxonhutch on November 30, 2021, 16:52:07
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unfortunately the points were damaged last week. They are going to be repaired tomorrow.

Run though during the possession perhaps? It is unfortunately far too common.


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: bradshaw on November 30, 2021, 17:00:35
I would presume so and have been set and clamped to run into p1


Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: grahame on December 01, 2021, 05:12:50
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06:23 Yeovil Pen Mill to Filton Abbey Wood due 08:27
06:42 Westbury to Yeovil Pen Mill due 07:27
07:32 Yeovil Pen Mill to Filton Abbey Wood due 09:27
08:42 Gloucester to Yeovil Pen Mill due 11:13
09:40 Yeovil Pen Mill to Gloucester due 12:26
10:41 Gloucester to Yeovil Pen Mill due 13:12
12:02 Yeovil Pen Mill to Gloucester due 14:27
12:42 Gloucester to Yeovil Pen Mill due 15:30
14:00 Yeovil Pen Mill to Gloucester due 16:30
15:50 Yeovil Pen Mill to Gloucester due 18:32

06:42 Westbury to Yeovil Pen Mill due 07:27 will be terminated at Castle Cary.
It will no longer call at Yeovil Pen Mill.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.

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Title: Re: Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: brooklea on December 01, 2021, 12:20:47
Does anybody know what the problem is with the point work at YPM?

Since both Penzance sleepers ran via Pen Mill last night one has to wonder!

Anecdotal (but unconfirmed) evidence suggests that only one platform road is accessible at the moment, so it is not possible for trains to pass at the station. The guilty pointwork is at the north end of the station.

Just to correct PhilWakely’s post, the damaged points were just south of the station at Yeovil Pen Mill, and are being fixed as I type!


Title: Cafe at Yeovil Pen Mill
Post by: bradshaw on October 21, 2022, 09:46:14
Have just come across this on Twitter.

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   Going to @GWRHelp Yeovil Pen Mill? Then when at the station pop into At The Station @YeovilPenMill where you'll find delicious artisan coffees, speciality teas, as well as a tempting range of rolls, bacon sarnies and cakes for eat in or take-away

https://twitter.com/tptretail/status/1583124106769072128?s=61&t=7qwn10eaNA1iNXa-vZ8jsQ



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