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Title: Colwall station - facilities, services, events and incidents (merged posts)
Post by: prb58 on July 17, 2008, 22:43:05
 On Tuesday 15th July, the 17:21 ex Paddington came rushing through Colwall (due 20:07) three minutes late, but didn't stop.
It was most impressive to see, but does anyone know why it didn't stop ?


Title: Re: HST storming Though Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 17, 2008, 23:49:02
Hello, prb58, and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!

A good question you've posted there: does anyone have any answers??  :o


Title: Re: HST storming Though Colwall
Post by: swlines on July 18, 2008, 01:20:05
From Go By Train:

Train: 17:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:37

Details: This train will be terminated at Great Malvern. It will no longer call at: Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a train fault.

Last updated: 17:29:01 15/07/2008


Title: Re: HST storming Though Colwall
Post by: 12hoursunday on July 18, 2008, 11:54:09
Usaully this happens due to a failure of the power car sliding doors or the security door leading from the luggage van to the train. These need both to be operational in case access is needed for evacuation purposes in Ledbury Tunnel. Any evacuations in this tunnel cannot be done via the passenger doors located on the trailers due to them not having a sufficient space between the train and tunnel wall. Some Train Managers also fail a service when coach lighting fails.

prb58
If you want to see the impressive sight of a HST thundering through Colwall on a regular basis go down to the station at about 23.15 Monday to Friday to watch 5W71 on it's way to Hereford after working the 20.20 Paddington to Gt Malvern (1W71)


Title: Colwall station - facilities, services, events and incidents (merged posts)
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 25, 2012, 12:45:28
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-18578214 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-18578214).


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: chuffed on June 25, 2012, 18:50:35
Should have 'sett' to work between Honley and Stocksmoor !!
If you are still puzzled check table 34 in the National rail Timetable ....


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 26, 2012, 17:18:34
..and today it turns out that the badgers have been wrongly accused : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-18595167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-18595167). A "build-up of water" isn't half as interesting!


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: JayMac on June 27, 2012, 17:34:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx6TBrfCW54

cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges#Later_citations

 ;D


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 24, 2012, 20:33:21
A question about who looks after the provision of information to passengers at these times.

The line between Great Malvern and Hereford is currently closed due to emergency engineering works at Colwall - see http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/today.html (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/today.html).

FGW are stopping their trains at Worcester Shrub Hill. They've have documented this on the disruptions part of their site, at
http://www.journeycheck.com/firstgreatwestern/ (http://www.journeycheck.com/firstgreatwestern/). They also seem to have altered the schedules in the departure boards at http://www.journeycheck.com/firstgreatwestern/ (http://www.journeycheck.com/firstgreatwestern/) so that these trains are shown as "cancelled" between Worcester and Hereford.

However, London Midland aren't reporting anything. Their journeycheck listings, at http://www.londonmidland.com/your-journey/live-info/ (http://www.londonmidland.com/your-journey/live-info/) say

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Line problem: between Great Malvern and H...

Owing to emergency engineering works between Great Malvern and Hereford all lines are blocked.
Impact:
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed at short notice. Disruption is expected until 23:45 24/09.

- but the train-by-train listings on the same page make no mention of any changes to the Hereford trains.

And the schedules for their part of the departure boards display still show trains as running to and from Hereford.

I suppose that it's possible that London Midland's staff shortages are such that no-one's looking after passenger information. But surely somebody should be looking after this?


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Louis94 on September 25, 2012, 10:04:43
Due to an approx 6ft deep & 30ft wide hole that has opened up under the track at Colwall the railway line is closed.

London Paddington to Hereford services will terminate at Worcester Shrub Hill with their return working starting at Worcester Shrub Hill.

Services from London Paddington to Great Malvern will continue to operate as booked subject to congestion in the Worcester Foregate Street area.

Alterations to other FGW train services operating through the area will be paged separately, Arriva Trains Wales are managing all replacement road transport between Hereford, Great Malvern and Worcester.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 25, 2012, 10:11:29
Thanks for that. 30 foot wide sounds scary.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 25, 2012, 10:21:44
and indeed, there's a scary picture at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-19710125 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-19710125).

The badgers are being blamed again.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: grahame on September 25, 2012, 10:47:05
The badgers are being blamed again.

Hmm ... what they say is "Network Rail said the hole emerged on Monday in Colwall next to one believed to have been caused by badgers." which doesn't actually blame the badgers.  If it did, it would be rather like taking you to court because your neighbour has been caught fiddling his taxes  :D


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Louis94 on September 25, 2012, 11:10:55
and indeed, there's a scary picture at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-19710125 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-19710125).

The badgers are being blamed again.

Apparently they've had this subsidence problem before in the area.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 25, 2012, 11:47:08
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-19710125):

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Hereford to Malvern rail line remains closed after collapsed pipe

Trains between Great Malvern and Hereford remain cancelled after a collapsed pipe caused a "very deep hole" on the line in Colwall.

Network Rail said it appeared after heavy rain next to one that emerged after a build-up of water in June.

A statement from Network Rail said it is hoped the line will reopen on Wednesday.

National Rail Enquiries said a limited bus service was running between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford.

Its website said First Great Western passengers could use Arriva Trains Wales services between Hereford and Newport, and London Midland services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern.

A statement from Network Rail said water flowing from a clay pipe had saturated the surrounding ground and a chamber has been dammed for the water to be pumped from it.

Engineers were planning to dig out the wet ground and install concrete sleepers as a new base before new ballast and track are installed.

Earlier in the year surplus water after heavy rain caused another hole, leading to some rail services on the line being cancelled, Network Rail said.

On Monday the Met Office said on Twitter that in 24 hours 64.6mm (2.5in) of rainfall had been recorded in Hereford, making it "one of the wettest places in the country".

A flood warning for the River Teme at Bransford in Worcestershire has been issued by the Environment Agency.

A warning for the River Teme at Stanford Bridge in Herefordshire remains in place.

Hereford and Worcester Fire and Rescue Service said they were called to more than 40 flood-related incidents on Monday.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 25, 2012, 12:12:55
The badgers are being blamed again.

Hmm ... what they say is "Network Rail said the hole emerged on Monday in Colwall next to one believed to have been caused by badgers." which doesn't actually blame the badgers.  If it did, it would be rather like taking you to court because your neighbour has been caught fiddling his taxes  :D

You're obviously better at reading the small print!   :)

Badgers R innocent OK.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 25, 2012, 13:05:59
Indeed!  ;D

From news coverage of that previous incident back in June 2012, from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-18595167):

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Railway hole caused by 'water build-up'

A hole which appeared by a Herefordshire railway line, causing services to be cancelled, was caused by a build-up of water, Network Rail said.

...

Network Rail said engineers were at the scene to look into where the surplus water had come from.

A theory the hole was caused by badgers was speculation, the spokesman said.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 29, 2012, 22:46:51
From the Malvern Gazette (http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news/9955785.It___s_the_mighty_hole_that_stopped_trains/):

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It^s the mighty hole that stopped trains

(http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/resources/images/2171828/?type=articleLandscape)
HOLE: This five-metre opening appeared at Colwall station after Monday^s floods.

A deep hole which appeared under the tracks of the Colwall railway station stopped train services for two days.

Appearing on Monday morning after a month^s worth of rainfall fell in just a day, it opened up just a few paces from where a similar hole had appeared at the end of June.

The more recent hole has now been repaired, but a speed limit has been put in place while the repair is monitored.

On Monday morning, London Midland was forced to suspend all its services while the hole was inspected, with trains having to terminate at Great Malvern rather than carry on through to Hereford.

The hole at Colwall, just one station along from Ledbury, was inspected by Network Rail engineers who dug out the ballast and traced the cause to a collapsed 250mm clay pipe.

In breaking, the pipe had been discharging water into the immediate area and washing away the ballast under the track causing a hole to form.

The hole had originally measured about half a metre but grew to five metres as engineers dug 2.5m to 3m down to locate the problem.

Repairs were made using concrete sleepers with drainage laid on top and the ballast and track had to be reinstated.

Train services restarted on Wednesday (26) morning with the first service, the 4.29am Hereford to Ledbury, arriving three minutes early at Ledbury.

Full services are expected to operate ^ though a 20mph speed restriction has been placed on the line, which normally operates at 70mph, while the repairs are monitored.

A hole had previously appeared on the track in June but National Rail spokesman John Baker said they were confident they had now resolved the problem, permanently.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 01, 2012, 17:49:50
From the Ledbury Reporter (http://www.ledburyreporter.co.uk/news/10021574.Hole_reappears_in_rail_track_at_Colwall/):

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Train services disrupted through Malvern and Ledbury

UPDATE 4.38pm: It is understood that services are back to normal on the line.

Rail services through Malvern and Ledbury are being disrupted after a hole reappeared in the line at Colwall.

The hole, near the railway station, appeared following over 12 hours of heavy rain in the area.

A hole in the track first appeared at the end of June after heavy rain, but was repaired the following day.

It reappeared in the last week of September after a month's rain fell in seven days. It caused train services to be stopped for two days.

The hole has been blamed on a broken drainage pipe which caused the ballast to be washed away.

The London Midland website says today: "Train services running through these stations may be delayed or revised at short notice. An estimate for the resumption of normal services will be provided as soon as the problem has been fully assessed."


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 02, 2012, 16:55:53
An update, from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-20182394):

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Hereford to Malvern rail line is 'safe' despite disruptions by new hole appearing

A railway track has been called "safe" by Network Rail, despite a hole appearing underneath it.

Trains between Great Malvern and Hereford were disrupted for the third time in six months after a hole appeared under the track on Thursday.

John Baker of Network Rail said "further remedial work" will be carried out in the future, but trains are running now at normal line speed. He said the hole at Colwall, Malvern was due to a collapsed drainage pipe.

Mr Baker said: "Last night the problem wasn't as bad as it had been before, but it's in the same place. It's safe, unless it falls in again^ You can't predict these things."

He said that future work would be done overnight and possibly at weekends to save disrupting rail services.

A collapsed pipe caused a "very deep hole" at Colwall in September. In June heavy rain caused another hole there. On Thursday night, engineers carried out remedial work on the line where the ballast had gone and continued to assess the damage.

Network Rail is waiting for survey results to find out when further work can be carried out.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: SandTEngineer on November 02, 2012, 21:24:45
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Hereford to Malvern rail line is 'safe' despite disruptions by new hole appearing

Mr Baker said: "Last night the problem wasn't as bad as it had been before, but it's in the same place. It's safe, unless it falls in again^ You can't predict these things."

Remind me not to travel on that line.............. :P ::) :'(


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 02, 2012, 21:32:12
Yes, I didn't like to draw attention to it, but that did strike me as a rather inappropriate comment from a Network Rail spokesman ...  :o ::)


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: grahame on November 02, 2012, 22:14:08
The neighbours are keeping an eye on the embankment, and will let Network Rail know if there's an issue.

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/800px-Badger-badger.jpg)

Picture by "BadgerHero"  and reproduced under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en)


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: TonyK on November 02, 2012, 22:26:46
I have friends in Malvern, and was about to visit. Where's the car key?


Title: A first for Colwall?
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 10, 2012, 06:41:51
From JourneyCheck on Saturday 2012 November 10:
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06:17 Hereford to London Paddington due 09:29
This train will be started from Colwall.
This train will no longer call at Hereford and Ledbury.
This is due to a train fault.
Additional Information:
Road transport will operate from Hereford & Ledbury direct to Worcester Shrub Hill.
Message Received :10/11/2012 05:33

Is this the first time that a train has started its journey at Colwall?


Title: Re: A first for Colwall?
Post by: chuffed on November 10, 2012, 08:55:13
It would appear that the black and white furry creatures who are reputed to inhabit the area have 'badgered' the operators to assist their attempts to become commuters..... ::)


Title: Re: A first for Colwall?
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 10, 2012, 09:35:10
Given that FirstGroup grew out of the merger involving the old Badgerline bus company, perhaps this represents a return to their roots (or routes)?


Title: Re: A first for Colwall?
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 10, 2012, 10:32:32
Or perhaps the set answer isn't so black and white ...  :P ::) ;D


Title: Re: A first for Colwall?
Post by: grahame on November 10, 2012, 12:01:52
Amongst the rarer places that FGW trains have started from / terminate at are ...

Worthing
Tiverton Parkway
Highbridge & Burnham
Bradford-on-Avon
Dawlish
Hanborough
Blackwater
Crediton
St Austell
Ledbury
Cholsey
Barnham

(That's part of my list of places I have had to add on to the cancellation report image data file).  It shows the planned places though ... trains terminate just about anywhere in an emergency - even Pilning.

First train starting at Colwall?   Well - the timetables have never been changed except in the very short / operation decision phase to start there to my knowledge.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 14, 2012, 18:20:20
From the Malvern Gazette (http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news/10042053._/?):

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More repairs needed for rail trouble spot

More repairs are likely on a troublesome railway line which has collapsed for the third time in six months.

In what is turning into a recurring nightmare for some rail passengers, there were fresh disruptions on the Worcester to Hereford line at Colwall station after a hole opened up in the rock ballast supporting the metal track sections.

The same problem held up rail services when it first occurred in June, and for a second time in September, as previously reported in your Malvern Gazette.

Then last Thursday another hole was reported by train drivers. Services were stopped, but after an inspection by Network Rail engineers services were allowed along the stretch but under a 50mph speed limit.

In September, Network Rail engineers dug out a section of the stone ballast to uncover what was on that occasion the culprit ^ a broken underground water pipe. Repairing the pipe at the time engineers said they were confident it was a ^permanent fix^ but the problem has now re-occurred.

In this latest appearance, heavy rainfall fell in the hours before the hole emerged.

A Network Rail spokesman said: ^There may have been a further collapse of the drainage pipe under the track at Colwall station. Engineers have surveyed the section and are doing further investigative work, which may need more work.

^The hope is any further work will be able to be carried out overnight and at the weekend. It^s an ongoing problem that^s not been solved ^ hopefully the work we now do will lead to a solution.^


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Ollie on November 25, 2012, 15:51:18
Probably to be expected. Line now closed again.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 25, 2012, 15:58:06
Thanks, Ollie!  ;D

From First Great Western JourneyCheck:

Quote
Line problem: between Great Malvern and Hereford.
Owing to a problem with line-side equipment between Great Malvern and Hereford all lines are blocked. Train services through these stations may be subject to disruption on all routes at short notice. An estimate for the resumption of normal services will be provided as soon as the problem has been fully assessed.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Ollie on November 25, 2012, 16:56:02
Line open again but with speed restriction.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 08, 2013, 10:19:01
The badgers are back, and being blamed again...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-21365263 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-21365263)


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: TonyK on February 08, 2013, 20:14:03
So much for the cull, then.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 17, 2013, 18:18:10
Those pesky badgers are back again - but someone has persuaded them to have a go at road bridges instead : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-23340869 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-23340869).

Perhaps they should tell the Badger Broadcasting Corporation that Hoarwithy is in Herefordshire.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: TonyK on July 17, 2013, 19:59:21
So much for the cull, then. Although driving along the A361 North Devon Link Road on Saturday, you could be forgiven for thinking it was well under way.


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: Red Squirrel on July 17, 2013, 21:04:05
Apologies if this has been posted on this forum before, but this youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2na_RCUpykM) is what I call a washout.

Warning - there is some rather colourful language; to my mind however it is entirely appropriate!


Title: Re: Emergency engineering work due to holes appearing at Colwall
Post by: martvw on July 21, 2013, 17:41:04
Hi any one know what work was taking place on the Worcester to Malvern line today,Worcester Foregate street station was shut no trains running on that line. I read that Cheltenham is to get new platforms and Stratford on Avon opens its new park and ride station, what does Worcester get? a new toilet door lock!! Come on First Great Western/London Midland/Network Rail take hold of the Worcester rail set up and bring it in to the modern world.  From a grumpy old rail fan!!


Title: Train guard attacked with screwdriver at Colwall Station
Post by: ChrisB on March 28, 2023, 17:21:19
From The BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-65099293)

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A train guard required hospital treatment after being attacked with a screwdriver at a railway station.

The guard needed stitches to a forehead wound after a man attacked him with the screwdriver and then threw it at his face.

British Transport Police is appealing for witnesses after the assault at Colwall Station in Herefordshire at about 22:00 GMT on 21 March.

The attacker had previously shouted at the guard from the platform, it added.

He was described as a white male in his late 20s and at the time of the attack was said to have been wearing a tracksuit and baseball cap, British Transport Police said.

It appealed for anyone with information to contact the force.



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