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Title: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Timmer on May 20, 2007, 17:09:12
Just to let everyone know that Bath Spa travel centre will be closed for aprox 4-6 whilst renovation work is carried out. It will also affect the ticket sales area at times I suspect. They are also installing ticket barriers in the ticket hall area.

Always a busy travel centre, its one of the few that remain at mainline railway stations with most having been closed down long ago. I'm sure it will be missed these next few weeks especially by the tourists who are better to stay away from Bath which is turning into one big building site with the construction of the new shopping centre and bus/rail interchange.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: BandHcommuter on May 22, 2007, 10:33:51
Just to follow on from this, I understand that the new ticket office will be a "single point of sale" (located in the existing travel centre area) replacing the existing ticket office and travel centre. I would guess that some windows will be dedicated to advance purchase or immediate travel depending on the time of day. The current ticket windows will be removed to make extra room for the gateline, and more self service ticket machines.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: Timmer on May 22, 2007, 17:04:36
Just to follow on from this, I understand that the new ticket office will be a "single point of sale" (located in the existing travel centre area) replacing the existing ticket office and travel centre. I would guess that some windows will be dedicated to advance purchase or immediate travel depending on the time of day. The current ticket windows will be removed to make extra room for the gateline, and more self service ticket machines.

So to confirm their will not in essence be a dedicated travel centre as was previously  ???


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: BandHcommuter on May 23, 2007, 19:30:38
So to confirm their will not in essence be a dedicated travel centre as was previously  ???

That is indeed my understanding.



Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: Timmer on May 23, 2007, 20:41:42
Here's what FGW have to say about their plans:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?id=496

First Great Western has started work on a major refurbishment of Bath Spa station.

The building work represents an investment of over ^400,000 by First Great Western as part of its ^200 million investment in trains, stations and customer service.

A completely new interior with enhanced facilities will create a more contemporary impression for visitors to Bath. The station ^ originally modelled on an Elizabethan country house, will have new floors, an open-access ticket desk without glass screens, a dedicated ticket counter for disabled customers, new lighting, new colours and new counter areas. The external character of the station will remain unchanged.

Major works start on May 21 and are scheduled to finish on 9 July. A phased programme of internal alterations to the Grade 2 Listed building will allow the station to continue to operate as the work progresses.

Adrian Clarke, Transportation Policy Manager, Bath & North East Somerset Council says: ^Bath & North East Somerset Council has been working closely with First Great Western to improve the environment for passengers arriving and leaving Bath Spa Station. The station is one of the busiest in the region and these improvements will help to further enhance Bath as an important visitor destination.^

Andrew Griffiths, First Great Western^s Regional Manager says: ^This is an historic listed building that reflects Brunel^s legacy to the railway. The modernisation has been carefully designed and approved by the authorities to reflect the building and its surroundings in an historic city.^

Ian Monks, Station Manager Bath Spa says: ^Our customers will really notice the difference ^ especially the new open plan concourse.^

During the building work, First Great Western staff will be in the concourse to help customers as they buy their tickets. 4 self-service ticket machines will also be in use whilst parts of the existing ticket sales area are partitioned off to allow the builders to upgrade the interior.

ENDS

Sounds quite promising. Its long overdue for sure.


Title: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on July 03, 2007, 15:17:40
Random bag and car searches are being carried out at Bath Spa (link below.)
http://thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=163490&command=displayContent&sourceNode=163316&contentPK=17720067&folderPk=89126&pNodeId=163047


Title: Re: Bath Spa Security Stepped Up
Post by: Jim on July 03, 2007, 15:58:23
Good


Title: Re: Bath Spa Security Stepped Up
Post by: whistleblower on July 03, 2007, 20:39:30
Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this story.  Over the weekend a colleague took the FGW service to Brighton.  After everybody had left the train he found a suitcase had been left behind.  It had airline tags from an Arab airline and had Arabic writing on it.  No, really!

The platform was packed with people and he called the Police and started trying to clear the platform on his own.  When the BTP policeman arrived he said it wasn't suspicious as it was not hidden.  The fact that there is nowhere to hide a suitcase on a 158 was not part of his deduction.  He lifted it out of the train on to the platform which, despite the efforts of my colleague was still busy with passengers, and promptly flicked the catches to open it.

So there's a handy tip for any terrorists trying to get one over the BTP.  Make it look like a cannonball with a smoking fuse coming out of it.  Write BOMB on it - preferably in Arabic - put it on full display and send it to Brighton. ::)


Title: Re: Bath Spa Security Stepped Up
Post by: Jim on July 03, 2007, 20:44:09
Blimey, but, why am I not suprised!


Title: Re: Bath Spa Security Stepped Up
Post by: Timmer on July 03, 2007, 22:01:23
Random bag and car searches are being carried out at Bath Spa (link below.)
http://thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=163490&command=displayContent&sourceNode=163316&contentPK=17720067&folderPk=89126&pNodeId=163047
The thing that springs to mind on reading this is that the horse has bolted and is in the next field and probably wont be back for sometime. But thats how terrorism works to try and bring terror, fear and disruption to people's everyday lives until they strike again.


Title: Road Accidents Fear At Bath Spa
Post by: Lee on August 08, 2007, 11:50:36
Fears are rising that careless drivers could cause an accident while dropping off train passengers at Bath Spa (link below.)
http://thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=163490&command=displayContent&sourceNode=163316&contentPK=18048960&folderPk=89126&pNodeId=163047

Motorists avoiding the SouthGate development works are stopping in Rossiter Road so passengers can cross Halfpenny Bridge to get to the railway station.

Now Bath and North East Somerset Council has said that parking attendants will put on extra peak-time patrols to deal with the problem.


Title: Re: Road Accidents Fear At Bath Spa
Post by: Timmer on August 08, 2007, 18:38:49
Fears are rising that careless drivers could cause an accident while dropping off train passengers at Bath Spa (link below.)
http://thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=163490&command=displayContent&sourceNode=163316&contentPK=18048960&folderPk=89126&pNodeId=163047

Motorists avoiding the SouthGate development works are stopping in Rossiter Road so passengers can cross Halfpenny Bridge to get to the railway station.

Now Bath and North East Somerset Council has said that parking attendants will put on extra peak-time patrols to deal with the problem.

Not a good idea.  Because its a two carriageway road separated by a central reservation, many drivers think its a dual carriageway with the speed limit of a normal dual carriageway and speed up considerably along this short stretch of road. It think its meant to be a 30 limit. Its not clear at all. Sorry for going a bit off topic again!


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: Timmer on September 11, 2007, 18:50:25
Sounds quite promising. Its long overdue for sure.

I wrote that back in May, just as they closed the travel centre for the ticket office refurbishment and though it sounded quite promising at the time however the end result is very disappointing. The ticket hall is dull and unwelcoming and there are not enough barriers which apparently struggle to cope at peak times. I didnt want to say anything in case I was the only one who didnt think it was upto much but after seeing comments from others appear in the local press it seems that im not the only who feels that this has not been an improvement to Bath's ticket and travel office. Can we have the old travel centre and ticket office back please ???


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: spike on September 11, 2007, 22:49:11
The new ticket hall, while nice new and shiny, isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There are plenty of self service ticket machines though which isn't too bad (as long as they'll sell you the right ticket, arrive just before Savers become valid and they don't spit them out!!). However, the biggest issue is the ticket gates - if you get two trains coming in at peak time at the same time then the log jam of people trying to get out from both platforms is horrendous. Not to mention additional people trying to get into the station through the same gates.

Not very well thought out at all.

As usual, FGW have managed to cock it right up.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: simonw on September 12, 2007, 08:26:33
Gates are a major pain.

At Bristol Parkway, TWO gates are expected to handle 300+ passengers leaving peak evening trains. Last year they promised to add more ticket machines and gates. One new ticket machine is all they installed.

As a consequence, on many evenings he gates are left open. Would you want to hold up 300 tired passengers?


Title: Re: Bath Spa Travel Centre
Post by: Tim on September 24, 2007, 16:14:12
The gates at Bath are a major non-improvement.  I know that there are arguements for and against gating stations and for and against automatic barriers.  I don't have a strong view either way but I do think that if you are going to do something you should do it properly. 

I'll just give you a single example of how the barriers at Bath have not been implemented as well as they might have been.   There is a single barrier that is wide enough for a wheelchair or buggy.  It has a wheelchair symbol on it which would suggest to a wheelchair user that the gate was suitable for them to use.  So they put their ticket in and wheel themselves through the gate.  Then just round the corner they realise that there are steps to both of the platforms and that they are now trapped "railside" and have to be let back through the gates  and make their way to the platform through the car park.  I understand that there may be plans for lifts to the platforms which is good but until they are installed wouldn't it be sensible for FGW to provide signs that direct wheelchairs to the wheelchair acessable route to teh platforms rather than signs which mislead?
 


Title: Refurb (!) of BathSpa station - MTLS passenger survey
Post by: tonya on September 28, 2007, 21:00:51
Following the half million pound refurb of Bath Spa we have ticket machines that wont sell you the next days tickets, longer ticket queues for more of the time, fewer ticket windows open, a crush at the barriers, and we've lost those those nice leather armchairs in the london bound waiting room.

Now, my assessment could be entirley wrong,which is why MTLS will be conducting an objective  survey of passesengers in the morning rushour inabout 2 weeks time. We will be asking them what they think of the station ' 'improvements' and the train service, and then most probably making the results public.

We are very keen for help, both for input into the survey quetsions and to stand outside the station from 7:15-8:30 one morning.The survey will have to be to the point and focussed as people will proably be rushing for trains, if indeed there are any.
If you would like to help either on the day or in the preparation, leave a message on this site and we'll be back in touch with the date, and other details.
If we have enough offers of help, it's possible that we could consiedr surveys at other stations too.


Title: Re: Refurb (!) of BathSpa station - MTLS passenger survey
Post by: Graz on September 28, 2007, 23:29:05
I much preferred it before the refurbishment. All the seats have gone in the booking hall, and my biggest complaint is the advance booking office is now merged with the main one and the friendliness and relaxed atmosphere of that office has now all but disappeared. I used to enjoy the desks and seats, plus the easy to find timetables but this has all gone. The decoration is also stark and gloomy and doesn't fit in well with the station.

There's only one positive thing to come out of this- the ticket gates mean I don't have to mess around with the incompetent staff on top of the stairs who don't even know Oldfield Park has a station- when I need to change platform! But I can see how easily the crowds build up in rush hour.


Title: Re: Refurb (!) of BathSpa station - MTLS passenger survey
Post by: Timmer on September 30, 2007, 20:07:39
No Tony your assessment is far from wrong and Im still trying to work out how on earth FGW got the Bath Spa refurb so badly wrong. How anyone can call what they have done an improvement is beyond me. Better lighting would be a good place to start it so dull and unwelcoming in the ticket hall.

Wonder what the staff think of their new working environment? Though I notice that staff who were regulars at the stations for years and years dont seem to be there anymore. There seems has been a shortage of staff at the station for quite sometime now and probably why they got rid of the travel centre as its not so noticeable that FGW dont have the staff to manage it apart from closed ticket windows of course.

Come on FGW sort it out. Bath Spa is one of your most profitable stations and deserves better than this.


Title: Re: Refurb (!) of BathSpa station - MTLS passenger survey
Post by: martyjon on September 30, 2007, 21:07:51
Tonya, is the MTLS meeting at the Rummer still on for Tuesday October 2nd only I went in July and only Micheal was there just in case masses turned up and we had a drink and a chat together and he said there would be no meeting in August, but September came and I and another lady turned up but no leaders. I shall make the journey on Tuesday unless I see from this forum that the meeting is definitely a no-goer.


Title: Re: Refurb (!) of BathSpa station - MTLS passenger survey
Post by: tonya on October 01, 2007, 21:58:33
No meeting tomorrow 2nd October.
A mailing has just gone to MTLS email list, so we'll give them a few days to get on board and almost certainly have a planning meeting to finalise the questionnaire next Tuesday 9th. Will confirm here, so wathc this space.


Title: Bath Spa ^10 Million Revamp
Post by: Lee on April 11, 2008, 00:51:40
The 19th-century station is being given a dramatic facelift hand in hand with the creation of a ^13 million new bus station (link below.)
http://thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=180730&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232315&home=yes&more_nodeId1=163047&contentPK=20359638

The transport facilities are part of the ^360 million SouthGate development which is changing the face of the southern end of the city centre.

The bus station - which will feature a hotly-debated round tower where Churchill House once stood - will open in autumn next year, with the railway station opening in 2010.

The station revamp removes the existing north ramp and allows access into previously hidden station vaults, so that they can be opened up for use as restaurants or bars.

There will be new entrances to the station along with new passenger lifts to the platforms.


Title: Re: Bath Spa ^10 Million Revamp
Post by: Timmer on April 11, 2008, 07:20:58
Lets hope that a part of this ^10 million includes undoing last year's revamp of the ticket hall and turning it into something more welcoming.


Title: Re: Bath Spa ^10 Million Revamp
Post by: Tinminer on April 11, 2008, 10:12:39
^10M could re-open the Tavistock line!!


Title: Re: Bath Spa ^10 Million Revamp
Post by: Tim on April 11, 2008, 13:44:45
...true, but I don't think that this is money that has come from teh rail industry.  It is all part of the larger Southgate shopping centre development in Bath, funded by enyone who has a pension with Norwich Union.


Title: Re: Bath Spa ^10 Million Revamp
Post by: Graz on April 11, 2008, 13:58:11
Lets hope that a part of this ^10 million includes undoing last year's revamp of the ticket hall and turning it into something more welcoming.
Agreed!! The 'transport hub' was a good idea in principle but I wish they kept the facade of Churchill House and scrapped that hideous tin can 'round tower'.


Title: Re: Bath Spa ^10 Million Revamp
Post by: Lee on May 29, 2008, 19:48:07
Lets hope that a part of this ^10 million includes undoing last year's revamp of the ticket hall and turning it into something more welcoming.
Agreed!! The 'transport hub' was a good idea in principle but I wish they kept the facade of Churchill House and scrapped that hideous tin can 'round tower'.

More in the link below....
http://thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=180730&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232315&home=yes&more_nodeId1=163047&contentPK=20735839


Title: Operating Incident at Bath Spa
Post by: John R on June 15, 2008, 21:01:37
Line problem in the station area.
Train services at Bath Spa are being disrupted due to an operating incident in the station area.Delays of up to 30 minutes can be expected.


Title: Re: Operating Incident at Bath Spa
Post by: Tim on July 01, 2008, 14:17:02
What is an "operating incident"?


Title: Re: Operating Incident at Bath Spa
Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 14:18:47
A bugger up to put it simply.

Could be a problem with a train dumping its gearbox on the track for instance ...


Title: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on August 12, 2008, 18:02:32
Bath Spa will be closed at weekends during October and November commencing 11/12 October through to 15/16 November.

This will not only affect trains calling at Bath Spa but also rail replacement buses will not be able to pick up/set down either.

Details that are currently available can be found here:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2861

(topic now linked to calendar - Lee Fletcher.)


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on September 12, 2008, 19:19:02
According to BBC news a row has broken out between Bath & North East Somerset Council and Network Rail over the timing of the upcoming engineering work taking place in the Bath area in October and November:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7612215.stm


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Graz on September 12, 2008, 20:38:27
I think it'll be a good time, as Bath will still be a building site by then. Better to get these engineering works out the way before the Southgate buildings get finished!

To be honest, for a place like Bath, no time is ideal...


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Lee on September 12, 2008, 21:26:35
Further article link.
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=180730&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232315&home=yes&more_nodeId1=163047&contentPK=21431002


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: John R on September 12, 2008, 21:39:23
I'm puzzled as to what work is being carried out that is not only stopping trains calling, but preventing rail replacement buses getting anywhere near the station. Can anyone enlighten me?


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: shadow on September 13, 2008, 02:17:32
I'd say it's first great western achully using a bit of sense for once,
Currently the centre of bath is not a good place to be, as we've got a major redevelopment of the main shopping area in the city, so they've changed the road layout along the main road the runs outside the train station, and if FGW stopped coaches there, the whole city would most likely seize up due to the very stupid traffic lights outside the station...

but that's only me guessing


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on September 13, 2008, 07:32:52
I think the reason the council aren't happy about this is because the coach park in Bath is not huge with it being very busy at weekends...especially in the run up to Christmas. Many coaches come over from South Wales, why I don't know as Bath shopping isn't that good at the moment when you compare it with the excellent shopping facilities in Cardiff. I would say that the biggest concern will be on the two weekends when services aren't running on a Saturday either.

To run all the required RRPs to take passengers to Bristol, Chippenham, Westbury and Swindon involves a lot of coaches when the line through Bath is closed and it's pretty chaotic around Bath Spa station front entrance when this happened before building work started so it is a sensible decision by FGW to move the buses away from the station and operate a shuttle service from the station to the bus pick up/drop off point elsewhere.

There are two areas of work taking place. One at Bathampton Junction and the other at a set of points outside Oldfield Park.

IMHO there are two ways at Network Rail carrying out this work. You could have split the work and have trains running as they have done in the past between Bath-Bristol with RRPs operating from Bath to Swindon/Westbury whilst work takes place on the line east of Bath with all London services diverted via the Badminton line. For work needing to take place west of Bath, operate RRPs between Bath and Bristol with services for Wesbury/Portsmouth restarting at Bath also with a rail shuttle service between Bath-Swindon connecting with diverted Bristol-London services.

Or you do what Network Rail are doing and that is to totally close the line through Bath for a few weeks to carry out all the required work. The first option does mean there are some rail services to/from Bath but means more weekends where there is disruption. Take your pick really or in this case Network Rail have taken their pick to totally shut the line down which we now see across the country which I think suits the TOCs much better rather than try and operate trains over diverted routes.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: shadow on September 13, 2008, 11:21:40
Bath is a popular city for tourists at weekends so we get coaches in every weekend, but we don't get swamped with loads of coaches until the bath Christmas market, and that doesn't start till the end of November. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see..


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Graz on September 13, 2008, 11:23:34
True...it's better that it finishes then than heading into the start of December!

And that's true Timmer, as diversions can have knock-on effects to other trains, maybe it's best the work gets 'out the way' as quick as possible.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on September 17, 2008, 18:19:31
Revised Timetables for services operating on Sunday 12th October:

London-Bristol Temple Meads:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2923

Bristol-Westbury:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2924


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Tim on September 19, 2008, 15:45:09
the trains aren't stopping because the track is being renewed and they are also doing some embankment atabilisation work.

the replacement buses are not stopping at the station because platform lifts are being installed, and the new predestrain plaza between the station and the new bus station is being worked on.

it makes sense for them to do both bits of work together.  the only problem I forsee is with ticketting facilities.  i understand that the station ticket office will still be accessable on foot and open.  However as teh coaches will leave from teh coach park a good 10 minuteis walk away it would be good if FGW could make sure that there are adequate ticketing facilities at the coach park (including collection of pre-booked tickets)

It is a bit rich for the council to critise this work.  i imagine that NR is responsible for timetabling the engineering work, but the redevelopment of the station and adjacent land is all part of the Southgate redevelopment and the council is heavily involved in the planning and approval of that.



Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on September 24, 2008, 21:04:22
Revised Timetables for services operating on Saturday 18th and Sunday 19th October:

London-Bristol Temple Meads:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2948

Bristol-Westbury:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2949


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on September 30, 2008, 18:48:10
Revised Timetables for services operating on Saturday 25th and Sunday 26th October:

London-Bristol Temple Meads:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2973

Bristol-Westbury:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2974


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Lee on October 09, 2008, 22:10:27
Bath Chronicle article link.
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Rail-disruption-looms/article-389211-detail/article.html

BBC article link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/7663045.stm


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on October 14, 2008, 15:13:08
Revised Timetables for services operating on Sundays 2nd and 9th of November:

Sunday 2nd November
London-Bristol Temple Meads:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2996

Bristol-Westbury:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=2998

Sunday 9th November
London-Bristol Temple Meads:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=3039

Bristol-Westbury:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=3040


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on October 21, 2008, 07:56:07
Things didn't quite go as planned for one of the rail replacement buses between Bath and Westbury on the weekend:
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/20-escape-coach-blaze/article-411162-detail/article.html

Looking at the OJP for Sundays in January, it looks like rail services through Bath will be replaced by buses once again for part of the day.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on October 21, 2008, 07:58:40
And finally, revised timetables for Sunday 16th of November:

London-Bristol Temple Meads:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=3287

Bristol-Westbury:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=3286


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Lee on October 21, 2008, 08:49:39
Things didn't quite go as planned for one of the rail replacement buses between Bath and Westbury on the weekend:
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/20-escape-coach-blaze/article-411162-detail/article.html

So the coach (hired by FGW) bursts into flames, passengers run up the hill fearing it will explode and :

Quote
"Some people phoned First Great Western customer services but they just told them to call National Rail Inquiries" (interesting article spelling error.)

Lessons to be learned, perhaps?

To be fair though, they were put on another coach, and taxis were provided for onward passengers.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Ollie on October 21, 2008, 11:44:44
Well..that explains the message I got over the pager system then.

Although the pager only said it was a broken down bus.  ;D very broken down by the sounds of it.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Lee on October 21, 2008, 21:47:55
Further article link.
http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/latestheadlines/3778648.Bus_passengers_in_blaze_drama/


Title: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: Tim on November 04, 2008, 09:33:28
from the Chronicle

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Person-hit-rail-incident/article-447274-detail/article.html

I thought that the station was closed at 2am and I'm not sure how there could be disruption until 5am as there arn't any passenger trains during that time?

Might be wise to wait for more info before commenting further


Title: Re: Operating Incident at Bath Spa
Post by: Tim on November 04, 2008, 09:35:23
A bugger up to put it simply.

Could be a problem with a train dumping its gearbox on the track for instance ...

wouldn't that be "a train fault"?


Title: Re: Operating Incident at Bath Spa
Post by: smithy on November 04, 2008, 17:57:39
operating incident is usually a SPAD or other serious incident and not a train fault.


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: smithy on November 04, 2008, 18:01:09
from the Chronicle

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Person-hit-rail-incident/article-447274-detail/article.html

I thought that the station was closed at 2am and I'm not sure how there could be disruption until 5am as there arn't any passenger trains during that time?

Might be wise to wait for more info before commenting further

delays could be caused by the sleeper having to wait in station until BTP/RAIB etc have visited and allowed it to be moved and normal services can resume.

also worth noting there are ECS moves from bristol to frome and westbury early in morning so if they are delayed then the services they form could be delayed.


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: Timmer on November 04, 2008, 21:10:21
also worth noting there are ECS moves from bristol to frome and westbury early in morning so if they are delayed then the services they form could be delayed.
Aren't any sets stabled overnight at Westbury smithy?


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: Tim on November 05, 2008, 11:03:39
The Chronicle story has changed since it first appeared.  It now seems that the victim was hot by the sleeper train at 3am. but that the emergency services were not called to the station until 3:50 am and that services were disrupted from 3:50 onwards.

Does the 50 minute delay in getting to the victim mean that the sleeper driver didn't know that he had hit someone and that help was called by someone else?

The station was of course closed at 3am.  The victim wasn't meant to be there and I assume was either suicidal or up to no good?


Title: Re: Operating Incident at Bath Spa
Post by: Tim on November 05, 2008, 11:09:18
operating incident is usually a SPAD or other serious incident and not a train fault.

That would be my assumption.  Perhaps not as serious as a SPAD but something that the TOC either doesn't want to admit to, doesn't want to alarm people with or doesn't want to comment on until the full facts are in. 

British Airways used the same euthemism when they cancelled my flight because they had grounded their Embraer fleet due to the nose wheel of one collapsing on landing.  All flights from Bristol were cancelled due to "an operating incident at Edinburgh airport"


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: smithy on November 05, 2008, 15:00:43
The Chronicle story has changed since it first appeared.  It now seems that the victim was hot by the sleeper train at 3am. but that the emergency services were not called to the station until 3:50 am and that services were disrupted from 3:50 onwards.

Does the 50 minute delay in getting to the victim mean that the sleeper driver didn't know that he had hit someone and that help was called by someone else?

The station was of course closed at 3am.  The victim wasn't meant to be there and I assume was either suicidal or up to no good?

i believe the sleeper driver did not see the person but a freight passing through later spotted the person on the track,not sure what they were doing on the station.

also worth noting there are ECS moves from bristol to frome and westbury early in morning so if they are delayed then the services they form could be delayed.
Aren't any sets stabled overnight at Westbury smithy?

there are sets stabled but they have 2 ecs hst's 1 from SPM and 1 from old oak.
they also have ECS dmu's basically they were introduced to stop the many delays and cancellations the old double 143 to chelt service used to cause,the thinking was if they came from depot all would be well.
during week normally 5 or 6 stabled at westbury,salisbury,portsmouth,cardiff,warminster and chelt via swindon the 6th set is a 153 that attaches to the up weymouth i think.


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: G.Uard on November 05, 2008, 18:15:56
I am hearing that person was a victim of  a stabbing and fell/was pushed onto track.  Not struck by train which apparently passed over them.  No word on victim.  Usual rider applies, this is  only word of mouth.


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: Tim on November 06, 2008, 08:57:28
I am hearing that person was a victim of  a stabbing and fell/was pushed onto track.  Not struck by train which apparently passed over them.  No word on victim.  Usual rider applies, this is  only word of mouth.

The first version of the Chronicle story mentioned a possible stabbing, but that has since been removed.  Also there were reports of a second person on the station, but noone else was found

But apparently, the police are not treating the incident as suspicious which suggests a suicide or accident to me.


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: G.Uard on November 07, 2008, 07:20:39
I am inclined to agree.  Surely the authorities would have issued a statement by now.  The railway rumour mill is a good source of info, but is often not 100% accuarate.

How about an Unfounded Rumours or Gossip, (UROG) section Mods?  Any breaking 'news' which can't be confirmed could be examined and discussed, whilst stories which 'solidify' would move to the appropriate area.


Title: Re: Person hit by train at Bath Spa station (4 November 2008)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 14, 2008, 23:42:07
From the Western Daily Press:

Quote
The family of a University of Bath student hit by a train are keeping an anxious bedside vigil.  The university said that it was doing all it could to support the family of 19-year-old Rhys Thomas, who was struck by the sleeper train in the early hours of last Tuesday at Bath Spa station.

The student was last night said to be in a critical but stable condition at Frenchay Hospital in Bristol.  Mr Thomas, a second year undergraduate student in the department of physics, is from South Wales.  A University of Bath spokesman said: "Our thoughts at this time are with Rhys and his family."

The incident is not being treated as suspicious but British Transport Police are still conducting an investigation.

See http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/news/Family-vigil-Bath-student-hit-train/article-463022-detail/article.html


Title: New Face of Bath Spa Railway Station
Post by: Timmer on December 10, 2008, 19:05:57
Article from the Bath Chronicle including an artist's impression of the new 'plaza' area of the bus and rail interchange:

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/travelandtransport/New-face-Bath-railway-station/article-538128-detail/article.html


Title: Bath Spa gets it's own Police Station
Post by: Timmer on December 27, 2008, 13:56:03
Article from the Bath Chronicle website:

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Police-stop-rail-yobs-tracks/article-567701-detail/article.html


Title: Re: Bath Spa gets it's own Police Station
Post by: Tim on December 29, 2008, 10:04:43
Good news this.  lets hope that the Police actually do their job of ctaching, arresting and charging the yobs rather than taking the easy options of "reassuring the public" or "providing a visible presence to deter disorder".  All well and good but ultimately it only suceeds in pushing the problem either further down the line or elsewhere in the town.


Title: Re: Bath Spa gets it's own Police Station
Post by: Electric train on December 29, 2008, 11:05:46
A number of years ago Maidenhead town center became the "choice Saturday night out town center" there was a lot of trouble caused by people traveling in (although some of the locals were / are not saints).  TVP in conjunction with BTP blitzed the town railway station and car parks carrying out stop and searches on anyone and almost everyone.  There was a letters in the local paper by our more Senior citizens than the usual clubbers age that they were stopped and searched by the Police, the Police views was that they can not discriminate.

My point is it takes a targeted approach by the local Police BTP and the venues in a town or city to eradicate the problem but like you said all that happens is the problem moves to another town


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on January 04, 2009, 12:32:42
Looks like today's 4/1 engineering work in the Bath area didn't take place judging by Live updates page on the FGW website with services calling at Bath and Chippenham as normal.



Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: devon_metro on January 04, 2009, 13:43:32
Amusingly buses are still showing on the live departures.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Station Weekend Closures
Post by: Timmer on January 04, 2009, 14:53:30
Amusingly buses are still showing on the live departures.
Did they still run bearing in mind they had been booked and passengers would have been turning up at Bath/Chippenham at the departure times for the replacement buses.


Title: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: Ollie on January 25, 2009, 17:19:24
From the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7849911.stm


Title: Re: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: Timmer on January 25, 2009, 18:49:41
I didn't know that FGW have gone into the property business  ;D

Quote
Dan Panes of First Great Western, which owns Bath Spa



Title: Re: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 25, 2009, 20:04:15
This is also the subject of a discussion at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4215.msg34568#msg34568  ;)


Title: Re: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: Ollie on January 25, 2009, 21:49:25
This is also the subject of a discussion at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4215.msg34568#msg34568  ;)

Can I point out that this was posted 14mins before John put his link to it :P


Title: Re: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 25, 2009, 21:57:35
I know, Ollie - absolutely no criticism intended, I was just cross-referencing the topics!  ;D


Title: Re: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: Timmer on January 27, 2009, 07:05:02
Article from the Bath Chronicle:
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/travelandtransport/Vandals-attack-Bath-railway-station/article-642420-detail/article.html


Title: Re: Vandalism at Bath Spa
Post by: John R on January 27, 2009, 17:59:04
This is also the subject of a discussion at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4215.msg34568#msg34568  ;)

Can I point out that this was posted 14mins before John put his link to it :P

Yes, it was my fault, I didn't see that Ollie had already posted.


Title: Thieves break into ticket office at Bath Spa (26 May 2009)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 26, 2009, 16:42:34
From the BBC:

Quote
An investigation is under way in Bath after the main railway station's booking office was raided by thieves.

Police were called to Bath Spa station shortly after 0100 BST on Tuesday when the alarm went off.

When railway staff arrived just before 0500 BST they discovered the burglary had taken place.

Det Sgt Andy Porter, from Bristol Transport Police, said: "Scenes of crime officers are carrying out a detailed search of the station."

Passengers who do not already have tickets are being asked to pass through the station, and buy tickets after getting on board a train.

For the full news item, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8068429.stm


Title: Emergency Road Closure - Central Bath
Post by: Timmer on May 27, 2009, 18:03:39
Dorchester Street in Bath will be closed from Thursday 28th of May through to Sunday 7th of June due to emergency road works.

Reason I'm posting this on this forum is that if you have a rail journey starting at Bath Spa and are travelling to the station by bus, there are diversions taking place on many bus routes into Bath. Suggest allowing more time to get to the station, especially if you are travelling using an advance ticket!

Details of affected bus routes can be found here:
http://bathcsc.info/2009/05/27/emergency-road-closure/

Having said all that, since there has been major road works on Dorchester Street as part of the opening of the new bus station, bus services in Bath have been badly affected so I wonder if these diversions might make services more reliable!

More on this from the Bath Chronicle website:
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/travelandtransport/Dorchester-Street-close-week/article-1028297-detail/article.html


Title: Rail watchdogs clear Bath station lift scheme (The Bath Chronicle 27/07/2010)
Post by: JayMac on July 26, 2010, 19:20:26
From The Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Rail-watchdogs-clear-Bath-station-lift-scheme/article-2455863-detail/article.html):

Quote
Rail watchdogs have now given their blessing to a controversial lift system planned for Bath Spa railway station. The Office of Rail Regulation has been keeping a close eye on plans to remove the access ramp to the London-bound platform 2 at the station and replace it with a lift for disabled people and cyclists.

The latest plans were given planning permission earlier this year but the Government safety body had mounted its own investigation into a string of complaints from the public. Now the ORR has issued the findings of its inquiry and says it has no problem with the planned lift as long as it is thoroughly tested before the ramp is demolished.

Among the concerns expressed were that the lift was too small, that the loss of the ramp would increase congestion on the stairs and even that its removal might lead to structural collapse of part of the station.

Train operator First Great Western had changed the location of the lift earlier this year amid concern from its own independent safety consultant, who has now issued a series of reports.

The consultant - known in official terms as the independent competent person (ICP) - has assessed the plans based on a 50 per cent increase in passenger numbers at the busy station.

A letter from the ORR to people who have expressed concern says: ^The ICP considers that the lift has sufficient capacity to cater for those passengers who will require alternative step-free access after closure of the ramp.^ It says the consultant believes safety risks on the stairs could be ^reduced to acceptable levels^ while Network Rail is said to have no grounds to believe the removal of the ramp would compromise structural safety. The letter says: ^Having read the ICP report, we consider that the ORR Safety Directorate has no evidence for regulatory intervention in the overall scheme of development as outlined.^ The body says there was already agreement that the ramp would not be removed until the new lift and stairs were operating satisfactorily.

The ORR says: ^We regard it as critical that the new stairs and lift are completed and open, before the closure and demolition of the ramp. The opportunity should be taken to establish the workability in practice of the station with the new lift and stairs and no access to the ramp, prior to ramp demolition commencing.^

The letter, from rail inspector Simon Smith, says the ORR will ^maintain its scrutiny of the safety arrangements of the project as it progresses.^

The project is a joint one, involving First Great Western, SouthGate developer Multi and Network Rail, as well as Bath and North East Somerset Council.

A spokeswoman for First Great Western said no start date had yet been finalised.


Title: Re: Rail watchdogs clear Bath station lift scheme (The Bath Chronicle 27/07/2010)
Post by: inspector_blakey on July 27, 2010, 23:07:52
Hmm. It will be interesting to see if the fabric of civilization in Bath really does disintegrate as a result of the removal of the ramp, as so many seem to have suggested ::)

I still really don't understand the ridiculous fuss over this one - I have no doubt that wheelchair users will be very grateful that they no longer have to take a long detour up a steep slope to reach either platform. And the lifts will also be a boon for anyone who's just a bit elderly and intimidated by the stairs, as well as those who are encumbered with pushchairs, luggage, etc etc.


Title: What is going on at Bath Spa??
Post by: thetrout on November 11, 2010, 19:33:35
Yesterday I decided i'd go to Bath for a pub dinner in The Porter...! I boarded a train to Bath that arrived a few minutes late...!

I returned to Frome on what was the 20:07 - but it arrived/departed from Platform 1 :o (Down Line) It was also by this point the best part of 40 minutes by this point! It got even later as we had to wait for a HST service to continue down towards Castle Cary direction.

Today I caught the 18:36 Cardiff Central service from Trowbridge, it arrived 20 minutes late. We then came to a signal just outside Bathampton Junction, where we waited, and waited, and waited...! We eventually arrived into Bath Spa on Platform 2 ::) ::) (Up Platform) 35 minutes late. From looking at the CIS it appears they we only using Platform 2 for all services!! :o Which as you can imagine, has caused several delays!

Whats going on...?? ;D


Title: Re: What is going on at Bath Spa??
Post by: JayMac on November 11, 2010, 19:36:57
From FGW Live Updates:

Quote
11 November 2010

Train services at Bath Spa are being disrupted due to signalling problems. Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 45 minutes can be expected.


Title: Re: What is going on at Bath Spa??
Post by: John R on November 11, 2010, 20:40:14
Was on the train behind you into Bath Spa. TM reported a broken rail hence all services were using the up line.


Title: Re: What is going on at Bath Spa??
Post by: tramway on November 12, 2010, 12:19:25
Looks like 2 seperate problems, Thu eve, (AFAIK we were the first wrong platform service at about 6.30), departed for Trowbridge none the wiser. Guard was informed about points/track circuit issues at Bathampton just as we went through the junction.  ;D


Title: Bath Spa in slow motion
Post by: TerminalJunkie on December 01, 2010, 06:34:52

http://straylight.co.uk/?p=120 (http://straylight.co.uk/?p=120)


Title: Re: Bath Spa in slow motion
Post by: Phil on December 01, 2010, 19:21:57
Ha. I have to admit, as a b3ta secret moderator I had actually seen that one before. But it's still marvellous!


Title: Re: Bath Spa in slow motion
Post by: JayMac on December 01, 2010, 23:31:36
Fantastic!


Title: Re: Bath Spa in slow motion
Post by: SDS on December 02, 2010, 00:26:50
Ha. I have to admit, as a b3ta secret moderator I had actually seen that one before. But it's still marvellous!

b b b b b Birmingham!!!!


Title: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Lee on December 09, 2010, 11:45:29
From the BBC: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11956973)

Quote from: BBC
Bath Spa railway station revamp is under way

Work to restore the 170-year-old Bath Spa railway station building has got under way.

First Great Western said the revamp would see extra entrances added and access to the platforms improved.

The firm said there would also be a "restoration of a number of historic architectural features".

But the Federation of Bath Residents Associations' said they were unhappy with a lack of communication over the station changes.

Plans for the revamp were first unveiled 10 years ago and Robin Kerr said that residents had not had enough of a chance to have their say.

"For more than 10 years the people have Bath have not been consulted and have had no opportunity to comment on the changes that have happened."
 
One of the biggest changes since the plans were initially given the green light is a goods lift being converted to passenger use.

Dan Panes, from First Great Western, said when the firm took over the running of the station a decade ago they realised the old smaller lift was "a big issue".

He added that all of the statutory planning consultations had been completed but they "could have been better" in talking to commuters.

Other improvements planned at the station include new toilets and outside there will be improved drop-off points and additional parking spaces.

The work is due to be completed in summer 2011.

From the Bath Chronicle: (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/New-look-station-completed-summer/article-2985922-detail/article.html)

Quote from: Bath Chronicle
New-look station will be completed by next summer

Work to create new entrances and a lift at Bath Spa railway station will be finished by next summer.

The facelift, which will also develop a new waiting room and booking hall interior, is largely being funded by SouthGate developer Multi and other firms involved in the nearby shopping centre.

But operator First Great Western is putting its own money into a new waiting room and toilet facilities.

The most contentious part of the plans has been the size of a new lift which would replace the ramp to the London-bound platform, which FGW has now enlarged.

There will be:

● new entrances to the west and south of the station;

● new step-free access to both platforms;

● extra parking spaces for rail users in the shopping centre's own car park;

● a new pedestrian-only link between the rear and front of the station;

● better drop-off and pick-up points;

● new toilets;

● the restoration of a number of historic architectural features.

FGW said it had made the lift bigger to better accommodate cyclists and disabled customers.

Spokesman Dan Panes said: "Bath Spa station was built more than 160 years ago as a gateway to the city, and it has changed very little since then.

"This work is designed to bring the station into the 21st century, improving access and facilities while steadfastly maintaining its heritage and its reputation as one of the UK's most stunning stations."

He said the fact that there was only a single entrance and exit to the station meant it got very busy at peak times.

"We'll open up two additional entrances ^ one at the back of the station and one that takes the place of the former Upper Crust shop."


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on December 09, 2010, 11:52:18
Will the station retain a current single ticket barrier line one wonders?  two new entrances will do little to enhance the usability of the station if so. 


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Timmer on December 09, 2010, 17:04:17
Lets hope this time they do a better job of the booking hall making it a much lighter environment to be in. I find it funny that it is being revamped so soon and makes you wonder why they bothered if they knew that major work was going to take place at the station a couple of years later.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on December 13, 2010, 10:16:02
makes you wonder why they bothered if they knew that major work was going to take place at the station a couple of years later.

I suspect that a lot of this kind of unneccesaary revamp work goes on because it gives the impression that the TOC is investing in the railway and is cheaper and easier than actually investing in the bits of the railway that matter (track, signals, rolling stock)


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: devon_metro on December 13, 2010, 11:15:49
makes you wonder why they bothered if they knew that major work was going to take place at the station a couple of years later.

I suspect that a lot of this kind of unneccesaary revamp work goes on because it gives the impression that the TOC is investing in the railway and is cheaper and easier than actually investing in the bits of the railway that matter (track, signals, rolling stock)

Track and signals of course, not being the responsibility of the TOC...


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on December 13, 2010, 11:50:48
makes you wonder why they bothered if they knew that major work was going to take place at the station a couple of years later.

I suspect that a lot of this kind of unneccesaary revamp work goes on because it gives the impression that the TOC is investing in the railway and is cheaper and easier than actually investing in the bits of the railway that matter (track, signals, rolling stock)

Track and signals of course, not being the responsibility of the TOC...


... which, IMHO, is part of the problem. 


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: mfpa on January 11, 2011, 00:42:02
Are we to surmise that the BBC, the Bath Chronicle, and First Great Western have all never noticed that Bath Spa station already has three entrances/exits, including step-free access to both platforms?
 


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: JayMac on January 11, 2011, 07:04:57
A very warm welcome to the forum, mfpa.  :)


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: tramway on January 11, 2011, 08:44:45
Are we to surmise that the BBC, the Bath Chronicle, and First Great Western have all never noticed that Bath Spa station already has three entrances/exits, including step-free access to both platforms?
 

Welcome mfpa.

If I understand your point correctly, I think the commments only relate to the improvement to the lift due to the fact that AFAIK the London platform will eventually lose it's step free access. If memory serves from artists impression of the development of the area the infill that currently forms the ramp and small carpark is being removed back to the original arches which will then be opened up to provide retail outlets and another access route under the line. A large lift is the proposed step free access solution, which is why the good people of Bath are up in arms.

Edit:

Quick mooch on the interweb brought this up.

http://www.southwestbusiness.co.uk/bath/Station-ramp-stay-lifts-work/article-3009259-detail/article.html



Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: mfpa on January 15, 2011, 16:59:18
Are we to surmise that the BBC, the Bath Chronicle, and First Great Western have all never noticed that Bath Spa station already has three entrances/exits, including step-free access to both platforms?
 

Welcome mfpa.

If I understand your point correctly, I think the commments only relate to the improvement to the lift due to the fact that AFAIK the London platform will eventually lose it's step free access.

Aside from the direct access to platform 2 being downgraded from a ramp to a lift, my understanding is that there will still be three entrances/exits after the revamp - the same number as now. The OP's quotes from the BBC and the Chronicle both feature FGW appearing to claim that the revamp would increase the number of entrances (from one to three), and neither the Beeb nor the Chronic challenge this.

From the BBC: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11956973)
Quote from: BBC
Bath Spa railway station revamp is under way

First Great Western said the revamp would see extra entrances added and access to the platforms improved.

From the Bath Chronicle: (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/New-look-station-completed-summer/article-2985922-detail/article.html)
Quote from: Bath Chronicle
New-look station will be completed by next summer

[FGW Spokesman] said the fact that there was only a single entrance and exit to the station meant it got very busy at peak times.

"We'll open up two additional entrances ^ one at the back of the station and one that takes the place of the former Upper Crust shop."


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Phil on February 09, 2011, 20:41:55
Sorry, nothing to do with the revamp but rather than start a new topic I thought I'd post this here.

Someone or another took a 360 degree photo of bath Spa station and posted it on Twitter (so as far as I'm concerned it's in the public domain)

http://occip.it/pt3y1hsf

Not sure I'd be too pleased if I was the fellow standing behind the camera as it panned round either!


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: devon_metro on February 10, 2011, 11:39:31
Looks like it is a couple of iPhone photos stitched together


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: JayMac on August 26, 2011, 11:56:38
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-14643212) (24th August 2011):

Quote
New entrances at Bath Spa railway station due to open

Several new pedestrian entrances to Bath Spa railway station are due to open at the weekend.

A revamp to the 170-year-old station will see a "restoration of a number of historic architectural features".

As part of the scheme, new entrances will be opened at the west and south sides of the station.

Sarah McManus, from First Great Western, said there would be "at least a 50% reduction" in congestion in the ticket office because of the changes.

In the next few weeks, scaffolding on the front of the station will be taken down where the canopy has been cleaned and windows re-glazed.

Other improvements planned at the station include new toilets and outside there will be improved drop-off points and additional parking spaces.

A goods lift is also being converted to passenger use.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: JayMac on August 26, 2011, 12:49:06
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/story-13201360-detail/story.html) (25th August 2011):

Quote
Car and cycle parking at Bath Spa railway station is being moved as part of a controversial shake-up which will remove a ramp and create new entrances.

The changes to Brunel's 19th century station are part of the latter stages of the SouthGate development and aimed at creating more space and improving accessibility.

New lifts to both platforms are being installed to replace the access ramp to the London-bound platform, although this will not be removed until the new arrangements for disabled people have bedded in.

There has been opposition from some users who say the ramp should have been preserved and that the lifts ^ which each have a capacity of eight ^ will not be able to cope with demand.

The work is also creating two new entrances to the station and new facilities for cyclists, while the project will eventually lead to the opening up of vaults for commercial use.

The lower south car park closed last week, while the north ramp car park will shut on Sunday.

Pay-and-display passengers will have to use the SouthGate centre car park, where there will be a designated area for rail commuters, while drivers using the Apcoa Connect pay-by-phone service will have to use the upper south car park, although they have been warned that a new traffic management system will cause delays there.

Cycle parking on platform 2 was removed last week and all cycle storage is being relocated to an area behind platform 1.

The new entrances, lift and stairways will open on Sunday.

First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: "The current station layout has served customers at Bath very well since it was built 160 years ago. The growth in passenger numbers in recent years means we've had to look carefully at what our customers need for the next 160. We will have tripled the number of exits to the station, installed new stairways and lifts to both sides of the station, and moved secure cycle storage off the platforms to create more space and reduce congestion. The work to the station, as well as the wider regeneration the SouthGate Partnership are doing around it, will be a fitting gateway to the city for a very long time to come."

The firm says the changes should reduce passenger congestion around the ticket office, and that the ramp will be removed at some point in the next year.

Councillor Paul Crossley, leader of Bath and North East Somerset Council, welcomed the improvements, saying: "The council has been committed to the completion of the Bath Spa station as part of the wider transport facilities to create a modern bus-and-rail interchange at SouthGate. The opening of the initial stage of the station moves the project one step closer to the achievement of a modern, welcoming arrival point for the city."

But one rail passenger said: "I've just seen one of the new lifts. There isn't room for a cat, let alone room to swing one."


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: inspector_blakey on September 01, 2011, 15:59:56
The ridiculous fuss over the 'removal of the disabled ramp' at Bath Spa appears to have reared its ugly head again, this time in Her Majesty's Daily Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8735328/Rail-company-accused-of-removing-disabled-ramp.html).

Quote
First Great Western's decision to cash in on land at Bath Spa station has, according to critics, made life almost impossible for those who are confined to a wheelchair.

For decades it was possible to reach the platform by car. But now the ramp, which was built by Brunel, has disappeared to pave the way for a multi-million pound redevelopment scheme.

It is the latest in a series of moves by a company dubbed ^Worst Great Western^ by its customers.
et seq

It's a sloppy article (no mention of what the other moves in the supposed series are, and some of the writing is frankly illiterate), but it seems to have been whipped up by a certain M*re Tr**n L*ss Str**n. Or Tony Ambrose, as MTLS is otherwise known.

It seems fairly telling to me that the only person complaining about the changes in the article is Ambrose himself. Does that mean the journalist didn't bother to approach any groups representing wheelchair users for comment, or does it mean that none of them had any objections I wonder?

I'm still none the wiser as to how anyone can spin the provision of lifts as a retrograde step compared to a circuitous route through a car park and up a steep ramp for disabled access, especially for wheelchair users on their own.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: JayMac on September 01, 2011, 16:54:16
I agree. A shoddy article. The Torygraph seem to be on a bit of an anti-rail bent at the moment, recently laying into rail staff travel (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/8729312/Half-a-million-rail-workers-enjoy-free-or-discounted-travel.html).

I dread to think how the *ahem* good folk of Bath are going to react when the leccy stuff starts going in through Sidney Gardens....


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: inspector_blakey on September 01, 2011, 16:59:10
First the fencing and now the knitting...


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: bobm on September 01, 2011, 23:47:21
Changed trains there today.  I'm pretty sure the sign inside the new lift for Platform 2 says it is on Platform 1!


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: the void on September 02, 2011, 09:49:13
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First Great Western's decision to cash in on land at Bath Spa station has, according to critics, made life almost impossible for those who are confined to a wheelchair.

And how can it be FGW's decision to 'cash in on land' when it's not FGW's land to cash in on in the first place.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on September 02, 2011, 10:32:05
Bath does like to moan doesn't it.

The new arrangements are certain an improvement on the old, but is was unfortuante that one of the lifts was out of order after being in action for only a few days.

Work is progressing slowly at Bath, but the quality of it appears to be high and when it is finished it will look fab.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: mfpa on September 04, 2011, 23:07:15
It is certainly slower to get from platform 2 to the pavement, now that the ramp is blocked off and we have to troop down the new steps at the speed of the slowest.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on September 05, 2011, 13:03:57
It is certainly slower to get from platform 2 to the pavement, now that the ramp is blocked off and we have to troop down the new steps at the speed of the slowest.

Really?  The new system is much quicker for the vast majoprity of people, not least because they ahve doubled the staircase capavity and the numebr of exit ticket gates which removes too previous bottlenecks.  The ramp was only quicker if you were one of teh few people parked there. 


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: mfpa on September 06, 2011, 02:38:45
It is certainly slower to get from platform 2 to the pavement, now that the ramp is blocked off and we have to troop down the new steps at the speed of the slowest.

Really?  The new system is much quicker for the vast majority of people, not least because they ahve doubled the staircase capavity and the numebr of exit ticket gates which removes too previous bottlenecks.  The ramp was only quicker if you were one of teh few people parked there. 

The increased number of exit gates means that once you actually get down the stairs there is less of a bottleneck at the bottom.

The new staircase being through a narrow doorway and not hugely wide itself, coupled with the old staircase now being labelled as no exit, means there is not much more staircase capacity for exiting.

Even if you are quick off the train and first onto the stairs, it is still not as quick to reach the pavement as it was down the ramp. This extra minute (or less) makes the difference between catching the bus about to leave the bus station or missing it.

In my experience, under 5% of those using the ramp at the times I arrived back in Bath were parked there.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: JayMac on September 16, 2011, 16:23:20
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/story-13336389-detail/story.html):

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Station lift breaks down as monitoring period is extended

One of the lifts at Bath Spa railway station broke down at the weekend.

This time it was the one on the Bristol-bound side of the station, where a trial period to test whether a controversial new lift system is working correctly has been extended by a week.

Transport campaigners had been fighting to persuade rail officials to allow extra time for the system to bed in before the removal of a 19th-century ramp on the London-bound side.

The new lifts at the busy station broke down in their first week of operation, although the one on the Bath-bound side has since worked without a hitch.

The ramp which it is replacing had been due to be demolished after just a fortnight ^ a period which campaigners said was too short to prove that the lifts were safe and efficient.

There has also been concern about the size of the lifts, installed as part of a refurbishment programme by rail operator First Great Western.

The fortnight ran out at the weekend but the lifts will be monitored for another full week.

A FGW spokesman said the firm apologised for Saturday's problems with the Bristol side lift, but pointed out that ramp access would remain on that side.

He said it was too early to say whether this would lengthen the trial period again.

Meanwhile, the line between Bristol and Weymouth through Bath and Bradford on Avon could be designated a community rail service.

The move, which will be the subject of a consultation exercise involving the Department for Transport, would mean more direct local influence over the planning and running of services.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Brucey on September 16, 2011, 17:04:59
Quote
the Bath-bound side
???


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 17, 2011, 22:48:42
Indeed: perhaps using the terms 'platform 1' or 'platform 2' is also beyond the scope of a journalist?  :o ::) ;D


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on September 19, 2011, 09:21:32
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the Bath-bound side
???

If you are getting off the train at Bath, ALL the platforms are for Bath.   ;D


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: devon_metro on September 19, 2011, 13:18:51
Bath Spa is bi-direction, so technically both platforms are for Bristol and/or London  :D


Title: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: JayMac on September 23, 2011, 13:54:28
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-15024793):

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Airport-style metal detectors are to be used to screen passengers arriving at Bath Spa station.

Police said the equipment, which will be in place on Friday, will screen visitors arriving in the city for knives and other weapons.

Officers from British Transport Police said they would also send passengers that arrive at the station "obviously drunk or rowdy" back home.

Sgt Richard Durnford said the operation was to ensure the city was safe.

"The whole point is that you've got people coming from far and wide to come to Bath to have a nice time," he said. "Some of them are coming armed with knives, coming with drugs, and already drunk and disorderly. We're going to be sorting them out before they even get a chance to set foot on the streets of Bath."

Sgt Durnford said officers would use their "discretion" to profile passengers to be screened.

A sniffer dog will also be on patrol to search for any drugs brought into the station.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: Brucey on September 23, 2011, 15:19:27
What a great idea ... inform people what you'll be doing beforehand and they'll be sure to turn up with a knife or just travel to/from a different station ::)

Couldn't one choose to opt out of this?  I wouldn't think that simply being at a railway station would be reasonable grounds for a stop and search?


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: bobm on September 23, 2011, 15:43:46
There does seem to be a particular problem with rowdy behaviour at Bath Spa.  Three times I have been on the last London train from Penzance in recent weeks.  It calls at Bath Spa shortly after 22:00.  Each time groups of "well oiled" men have got on and caused problems before getting off at Chippenham or Swindon.  Not seen any evidence of knives but there have been various forms of anti social behaviour ranging from swearing, smoking and turning off the saloon lights to running up and down the aisles and verbally abusing the train crew.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: vacman on September 23, 2011, 17:23:55
OMG I know the BTP are useless at best but telling the world that you'll be doing an op like this is just, well, dohhhhhhh!


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: JayMac on September 23, 2011, 18:01:33
Ah, but does your average n'er-do-well actually scan the news media before setting out on his/her journey?

It's highly unlikely that someone, say carry drugs, is going to check the news media to see whether the station they intend to travel to/from is going to be subject to a BTP operation. Same goes for the idiots who thinks its okay to carry a blade.

This is, I suspect, more to do with visible policing and providing reassurance to the law abiding travelling public that the BTP are doing all within their power to make the railways a safe a secure environment.

As for 'stop and search', simply being at a station is not reasonable grounds for a stop to be carried out. Setting off a metal detector, alerting a sniffer dog or acting suspiciously are.

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: inspector_blakey on September 23, 2011, 18:50:17
This is little more than a ridiculous piece of 'security theatre': the odd mobile metal detector arch popping up once in a blue moon will do almost nothing to keep anybody safe. Further, I would consider being made to walk through a metal detector as a search in its own right, for which I would hope Plod had reasonable cause. As other posters pointed out above, simply arriving at a railway station doesn't constitute that in my book.

I concur what what bobm said - I have taken that 2200 ex-Bath service many times on a Saturday night and there are often drunk and rowdy passengers (I'm guessing heading back home to Swindon or Chippenham to carry on drinking), but the metal detector doesn't solve that problem at all. What might help is having the odd BTP officer travel between Bath and Swindon on a regular basis at that time on a Saturday evening. Probably a darn sight cheaper than playing at airport security as well.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: Brucey on September 23, 2011, 19:01:58
This Guardian article makes interesting reading for those interested in the legalities of metal detector arches on the railway: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/mar/20/civil-liberties-stop-and-search


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: inspector_blakey on September 23, 2011, 20:08:13
Unfortunately this kind of nonsense tends to bring out an unpleasant awkward side in me, which I'm sure is going to get me into trouble one day. A few years ago, in an uncharacteristic fit of crankiness and stupidity brought on by extreme tiredness after an overnight flight from Canada, I refused point blank to answer the British immigration official's questions at Heathrow on the grounds that I was a British citizen and therefore did not need her permission to enter the country. Utterly remarkably she said no more and just let me in. Only a few minutes later did it occur to me how completely idiotic I had been and that I got lucky.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: Tim on September 24, 2011, 16:50:45
...Not as daft as it sounds.  Sometimes the screening people are not actually interested in what you have to say, just how whether you look "shifty" when engaged in conversation with an official.  She clearly had you down as "shirty" rather than "shifty"


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Tim on September 24, 2011, 16:52:25
Even if you are quick off the train and first onto the stairs, it is still not as quick to reach the pavement as it was down the ramp. This extra minute (or less) makes the difference between catching the bus about to leave the bus station or missing it.


It will be a few seconds quicker once the demo job is completed and the hoardings removed.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: inspector_blakey on September 24, 2011, 19:31:34
I've used the IRIS booths since then, they don't answer back!


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: pjpjw on September 25, 2011, 00:53:08
With regard to Bobm's observation of rowdy borders at Bath (2200 for Chippenham/Swindon) can any regulars say if this problem often afflicts the late services to Trowbridge?  (Partner would find this service useful but is concerned about travelling alone). thanks


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: thetrout on September 25, 2011, 01:06:04
I was at Bath Spa station on Friday and didn't spot a metal detector or any form of Police presence ???

But For goodness sake, if they do this, I will take the Bus to Bath instead. I want to make it quite clear that I have nothing at all to hide. But I always set Metal Detectors off in Airports! (Another reason why I detest flying).

I agree with I_B here, I would seriously disapprove of being searched at a railway station, considering if I had only come from just down the line. To me that would certainly be a good way to p**s me off, if I was just doing my normal activities in Bath!

@pjpjw: That train you're referring too, Yes there is drunken behaviour, often standing room only, but I personally haven't had any trouble on that service! I would say though, that this service lacks a ticket check >:( Staff just seem to hide in the back cab!


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: tramway on September 26, 2011, 09:36:07
Ah, but does your average n'er-do-well actually scan the news media before setting out on his/her journey?

Afraid the was no need BNM, plenty of coverage on local radio.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: Tim on September 26, 2011, 11:55:23
I don;t have a problem with this.  There is a genuine problem of drunken youg people coming in to Bath from places like Chippenham and Trowbridge.  If the Police use their brains and only traget those who look like they are potential trouble makers then this could be a deterant so its all for the best. 

You have to remember that this is a "police presence" at time and place when the public and staff might otherwise feel intimidated.  The metal detection stuff is secondary to that in my opinion although if the BTP are on duty migth as well give them something to do.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: thetrout on September 26, 2011, 20:22:34
Came through Bath Spa today and not a BTP officer in sight! I was off the train and out of the station in less than 2 minutes!


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 27, 2011, 20:23:10
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Police-hail-Bath-Spa-Station-exercise-success/story-13411692-detail/story.html):

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Police hail Bath Spa Station exercise a success

Visitors travelling through Bath Spa Station at the weekend were checked for alcohol, weapons and drugs as part of an initiative to crack down on city centre trouble.

An airport-style metal detector was set up in the station last Friday night and a team of special constables, joined by officers from the British Transport Police, searched visitors.

​There was also a specially-trained sniffer dog looking for people with drugs.

One man from Wales was arrested on suspicion of possessing drugs with intent to supply, while another was given a caution after being found with a quantity of cannabis for his own use.

Two others admitted using drugs earlier in the evening.

BTP Inspector Andy Irwin-Porter said the operation had been a success and they were looking at repeating it again in the future. He said: "It was a successful joint operation that served to reassure people that they can feel safe and be safe when they come to enjoy a night out in Bath. Many of the problems in the city are caused by people visiting Bath for a night out, travelling into the city by train. They don't have the same belonging and responsibilities towards those who live and work in the city and the effects that disorder brings to the reputation of a beautiful and historic place.

"Partnership working with the Avon and Somerset special constables, the train operators and the local authority provided reassurance and reduced the opportunities to misuse alcohol leading to disorder in the city and later on the trains. Mostly we had a positive reaction with the majority of people being supportive of what we were doing. We have carried out similar exercises across the region and will look at repeating the exercise in Bath."

City centre Sergeant Richard Durnford said he hoped the exercise had sent out a reassuring message to the people of Bath that the police would not tolerate anti-social and criminal behaviour. He said: "The special constables worked closely with BTP and achieved their main objective of protecting the public. It provided a visible reassurance to the public and a deterrent to potential trouble-makers, and sent out a clear message that police will take firm action against people carrying drugs or weapons and committing alcohol-related crimes."

The 11 special constables and nine BTP officers later went on to patrol pubs and clubs in Bath city centre.

The exercise was part BTP's nationwide Operation Shield and Avon and Somerset's Operation Relentless - a three-month campaign to keep people safe throughout the summer.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: coolsecretspy on October 21, 2011, 02:44:24
i have only ever seen Station staff i think, holding airport style metal detector wands once maybe a few other times to before in all the time i have been travelling to Bath. annoyingly enough that day they had them to hand i had left a pocket knife in my pocket that i had been using to cut cable ties and generally service a machine i was working, on which i had forgotten to take out of my pocket and leave behind prior to my mad dash to the train station to meet thetrout in Bath.

fortunatly enough for me although they were standing at the stop of the stairs looking very scary armed with the wands it didn't look like they were wanding people, so i was able to slip though without being scanned. had they have decided to scan people as they were walking down the stairs i would have been screwed and then probably had to have delt with a police confrontation which never goes down well for me :(


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: coolsecretspy on October 21, 2011, 02:50:35
does anyone here know what the random railing and the foot path is for that now runs down the middle section beween the two tracks at Bath Spa station are for? i saw them putting it all in and even to this day i still can't work out what the railing and the footpath is for. thetrout as a theory as to what it's for but i was wondering if anyone knew any different.


Title: Re: Bath Spa Revamp Begins
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 21, 2011, 18:39:49
See http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=9196.0  ;)


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 21, 2011, 18:45:01
To be fair, coolsecretspy, I don't think you would have had any such problem.

The police are looking for dodgy characters carrying a flick knife or similar, not honest individuals who happen to have a craft knife as one of the tools of their trade or profession.


Title: Re: Bath Spa train passengers to be screened for knives (BBC News 23/09/2011)
Post by: inspector_blakey on October 21, 2011, 19:10:47
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Police-hail-Bath-Spa-Station-exercise-success/story-13411692-detail/story.html):

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One man from Wales was arrested on suspicion of possessing drugs with intent to supply, while another was given a caution after being found with a quantity of cannabis for his own use.

Sorry for being slow on the uptake here, and please excuse my cynicism, but is the cost of having 20 fuzz setting up a pretend airport checkpoint for an entire evening really justified by the outcome...? One arrest and a caution for carrying a reefer, as far as I can tell.


Title: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 12, 2012, 19:22:23
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Protester-chains-station-railings/story-14402920-detail/story.html):

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A protester chained himself to railings at Bath Spa railway station today.

Legal campaigner Carlo Ambrosino, of Larkhall, argues that planning consent for the removal of the station ramp to make way for new restaurants has run out.

Mr Ambrosino, who has fought legal battles over Churchill House and the Bath Transportation Package, says he will return tomorrow to carry on his protest.


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 12, 2012, 20:10:07
Under normal circumstances I would have said something scathing. However, given my new year's resolution to be less judgmental I'll stay quiet.  :-X


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 12, 2012, 20:12:09
I also noticed that he has gone home to his warm bed and will be back tomorrow


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: Phil on January 12, 2012, 21:41:19
The original contents of this reply have been temporarily removed from public view at the request of Mr Ambrusino.
- Graham, 22:30, 8.9.2012


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 12, 2012, 21:55:17
I also noticed that he has gone home to his warm bed and will be back tomorrow

I thought that too! Shows real dedication to the cause doesn't it... ::)


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: ChrisB on January 13, 2012, 06:21:27
Is he back yet? :-)


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: Tim on January 13, 2012, 10:19:47
Things are starting to take shape at Bath.  I am optimistic that the work will be a big improvement. 



Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: Lee on January 19, 2012, 16:33:36
He was arrested the following day by BTP for trespass on the railway and bailed to appear at Bath police station on February 10 - http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Arrest-protester-chained-station-railings/story-14402920-detail/story.html

Bath and North East Somerset Council defend their position in this article - http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/proper-planning-permission-ramp/story-14975993-detail/story.html


Title: Re: Protester chains himself to station railings at Bath Spa - 12 January 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 17, 2012, 17:21:10
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/police-action-rail-protester/story-15246474-detail/story.html):

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No police action for rail protester

Police are to take no further action against a campaigner who chained himself to Bath Spa railway station.

Carlo Ambrosino, 48, of Larkhall, was arrested for trespass last month during a one-man protest against the demolition of the station ramp.

He argued that planning consent for the work had expired, so it should not be allowed.

However, Bath and North East Somerset Council has maintained that the development, to build new restaurants in the area, is all above board.

A British Transport Police spokesman said: "I can confirm that no further action will be taken by BTP against a 48-year-old man from Larkhall, Bath, who was arrested on suspicion of causing an obstruction during a protest outside Bath Spa railway station on Friday, January 13, 2012."


Title: Passengers voice their anger at overflowing drain at Bath Spa station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 22, 2012, 23:15:36
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Passengers-voice-anger-overflowing-drain-station/story-15590636-detail/story.html):

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Angry passengers have complained about an overflowing drain at Bath Spa railway station which they say is leaving a trail of urine across the car park.

One man, who had gone to pick up a friend from the station, said he had to walk through urine which was leaking from a manhole cover. He said: "Foul and not a nice first impression of Bath for tourists and visitors. We notified a member of station staff who said it had been going on for a week and begged us to complain because they had to deal with the smell all day."

Others have gone to Twitter to voice their annoyance at the matter.

@_nadnerb said: "Well that's two days now that there's raw sewage seeping from a manhole behind Bath Spa train station. Sort it out."

A spokesman for First Great Western apologised for the unpleasant situation and said it was doing everything possible to fix the drain. He added that the problem did not present a health risk to the public.


Title: Re: Passengers voice their anger at overflowing drain at Bath Spa station
Post by: JayMac on March 22, 2012, 23:25:18
Not nice when urine that situation.

Sorry, I shouldn't be taking the p**s.


Title: Re: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 23, 2012, 22:31:24
From the concourse at Bath Spa station - with some slightly clumsy wording, but posted here for the information of all:  ;)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5108/005gwz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/005gwz.jpg/)



Title: Re: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 14, 2013, 20:30:08
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Work-start-Bath-Spa-Railway-Station-s-new-ticket/story-20071953-detail/story.html):

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Work to start on Bath Spa Railway Station's new ticket office

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Bath Spa Station

Work is about to start on Bath^s Railway Station^s new ^500,000 ticket office.

First Great Western has confirmed the work, which will take six months to complete, will start on Monday.

Station manager Peter Rignall said the work would involve remodelling the existing ticket office and the station^s foyer area.

^First Great Western pride^s ourselves on putting our customers first and supporting the communities we serve. We recognise the key role that rail travel has in supporting the local and national economy and we are delighted to be able to start this work.^


Title: Re: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 25, 2013, 10:54:20
From the First Great Western press release:

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Bath Spa named Best Station in international awards

Bath Spa station is celebrating two awards in this year^s prestigious International Station Awards. The team won Best Medium-Sized station and then took home the top prize as overall winner of Best Station.

The award recognises the success of recent renovations at the station as part of wider works to improve Bath city centre while still keeping its original Brunel-era features. The station has benefited from an expanded access providing more flexibility to move passengers through the station and new lifts to platforms.

The station, which sits in a World Heritage Site, recently received a coveted Red Wheel plaque from the Transport Trust. It sees 5.8 million passengers pass through each year, including high numbers of foreign tourists as well as commuters and its 48-strong team is led by Station Manager Peter Rignall.

Peter said: ^These awards came as a massive surprise and we^re pleasantly astounded. It is a reflection of how well the team delivers customer service. The judges were impressed by how cheerful and knowledgeable our staff are and it was heartening to see how well the team pulled together when we were shortlisted.^

For more information on how this work will affect rail journeys please visit www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk or call 08457 000 125.


Title: Re: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 02, 2013, 21:46:59
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Second-evening-frustrated-queuing-Bath-railway/story-20245974-detail/story.html):

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Rail firm's pledge after second evening of frustrated queuing at Bath railway station

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The queues last night. Pic: Fraeya Whiffin

Rail operator First Great Western is looking at whether it can further boost the number of carriages on trains through Bath next weekend.

Bath Spa railway station was engulfed by frustrated queueing passengers for the second time in a week on Saturday night. Unprecedented queues formed in front of the station as people leaving the city after shopping at the Christmas Market or watching Bath Rugby^s clash with Exeter went to go home.

Although FGW had laid on enough extra carriages to increase overall capacity throughout the day by 2,000 seats on Saturday, its ability to do more was compromised by the need to provide additional space on trains to Wales because of the Wales-Australia rugby match and Cardiff City^s home game with Arsenal.

At one point, passengers were stopped from entering the station to allow crowds already on platforms and the concourse to catch their trains and free up some space.

The station had also seen scenes of chaos on Tuesday evening when services had been delayed or cancelled by signalling problems.

There were also long queues for park and ride buses on a day which brought nearly 150 coachloads of visitors to the city for the first Saturday of the market.

A spokesman for FGW said: ^The first weekend of the ever-popular Bath Christmas Market and the Bath game against Exeter meant demand was always going to be high.^

He added: ^Customers had been advised to leave extra time for their journeys and that they may not be able to board the first train available. Clearly safety is paramount and we will have to have people queuing up outside the station at times to allow safe access to trains.^

Staff from across the firm will be helping to marshal passengers at busy times over the Christmas period.

The spokesman said the fact that there were fewer competing events this coming weekend should mean the firm was better placed to raise capacity again.

Ironically, the station has just won the title of international railway station of the year.

Roads were clogged for much of the day, with people trying to get into Bath from the north held up by the slow movement of an abnormal load at times.

Meanwhile, the Green Party in the south west has launched an electronic petition to get the franchise for the services currently provided by FGW taken into public control.

Bath spokesman Jon Lucas said: ^Those of us who rely on First Great Western^s train services in Bath will hardly be surprised to hear that the idea of taking our railways back into public ownership has never been more popular. Since privatisation, the cost of train travel has risen by 23 per cent in real terms and the drain on the public purse has more than doubled. Passengers have to put up with some of the highest fares in Europe and for many years have put up with overcrowded trains and unreliable services.^

The party wants the franchise returned to public ownership when the current contract expires in two years^ time, saying this could save taxpayers more than ^1 billion a year and lead to lower fares and better services. The petition is at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/56244.


Title: Re: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 04, 2013, 22:03:47
From the Bath Chronicle (http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/trains-Bath-cope-Christmas-Market-crowds/story-20258171-detail/story.html):

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More trains to and from Bath to cope with Christmas Market crowds

First Great Western will be running more trains in Bath this weekend after long queues at the start of the city^s Christmas Market.

At one point last Saturday, passengers had to be stopped from entering Bath Spa railway station, with queues stretching along Dorchester Street, while not far away, hundreds more queued for park and ride buses.

First Great Western has now said it will be running 12 additional trains to and from Bath on Saturday.

There will be six more evening trains, providing 3,000 extra seats, as well as an increase in lunchtime and morning services.

However, people are still being advised that it could be busy.

Bath Spa station manager Peter Rignall said: ^It^s is great to see the Christmas Market here in Bath, with 150 chalet stalls, proving ever popular. While our friendly and approachable staff will be on hand to help keep people moving, I would urge customers to allow time for their journeys, as during the evening peak some passengers may not be able to board their first choice train.^

On top of the usual timetable, extra services will run at from Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads at 10.17, 10.54 and 12.15, we well as Bath to Bristol Temple Meads at 17.46, 18.45 and 19.55.

There will also be trains running from Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury at 09.10, 10.04 and 11.13, and Bath to Westbury at 16.21, 17.25 and 18.25.

First has already been expanding its park and ride services over the Christmas period, but has agreed to look at whether it has the resources to improve this further.


Title: Re: Bath Spa station - improvements, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on December 07, 2013, 11:01:31
From Journeycheck - one of the extra trains was cancelled.

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Cancellation of the 10:04 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury due 10:44.

This train will be cancelled.

This is due to a train late from the depot.



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