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Title: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 13:23:26 Service: 12:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.
Details: This train has been revised. It will no longer call at: Reading, Swindon, Chippenham and Bath Spa. This is due to earlier emergency engineering works. 19 late off Paddington, bang on time passing Bath Spa. If it arrives Bristol on time, I make it a journey time of 1h24... Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 13:36:43 Arrived 8 minutes early.
Booked journey time 1h43...... (1200 - 1343) In reality it did 1h16...... (1219 - 1335) Speedy! Performance data: Location Booked Actual Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Tim on July 01, 2008, 14:16:26 If it arrived early it would have had time to make at least one of its stops! It arrived at Bath on time so should have stopped there! Doesn't this just illustrate that the performance stats are more important than the passengers!
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 14:20:14 I suspect FGW weren't actually thinking on the basis it would catch up so time (nearly 30 minutes!) - it also shows the slack in the schedule.
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: eightf48544 on July 01, 2008, 15:00:54 Looks like an average speed of around 93/4 mph.
Wonder if he stuck to 110 or went up to 125. Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 15:37:05 Looks like an average speed of around 93/4 mph. Wonder if he stuck to 110 or went up to 125. I'd say there is a fair bit of 125 in there due to the various speed restrictions along the way (Reading, Swindon and Bath - Bristol come to mind). Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: swlines on July 01, 2008, 16:49:45 Performance data - i've set it so it averages below 125mph as some figures were coming out as 140mph+!
Location Booked Actual Avg speed Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Btline on July 02, 2008, 18:21:24 Arrived 8 mins early? They could have made 2 stops, and still arrived early!
And surely FGW know how much slack they have in their own timetable? Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: devon_metro on July 02, 2008, 18:30:33 People only had to wait 11 minutes for the 1230 service anyway...
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Btline on July 02, 2008, 18:39:44 People only had to wait 11 minutes for the 1230 service anyway... Of course! ::) Some lines have a good servie! ;D Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: devon_metro on July 02, 2008, 18:41:13 Some lines need a service like that all day ;)
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Btline on July 02, 2008, 19:28:35 I know.... >:(
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Tim on July 03, 2008, 09:17:16 People only had to wait 11 minutes for the 1230 service anyway... an 11 minute delay to BTM would be enough to loose your connection Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: John R on July 03, 2008, 17:49:49 and they would have got in half an hour later than they expected.
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: 12hoursunday on July 09, 2008, 16:51:08 Looks like an average speed of around 93/4 mph. Wonder if he stuck to 110 or went up to 125. Where is there a 110mph on the main line between Paddington and Bristol via Swindon? There isn't Speeds are Paddington 40-50-125-95-50-125-85-125-100-75-40-90-100-25-Bristol Temple Meads Performance data - i've set it so it averages below 125mph as some figures were coming out as 140mph+! Your system must be inaccurate then ;D ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: devon_metro on July 09, 2008, 17:33:16 Quote from: eightf48544 on July 01, 2008, 03:00:54 PM Looks like an average speed of around 93/4 mph. Wonder if he stuck to 110 or went up to 125. Where is there a 110mph on the main line between Paddington and Bristol via Swindon? There isn't Speeds are Paddington 40-50-125-95-50-125-85-125-100-75-40-100-25-Bristol Temple Meads Performance data - i've set it so it averages below 125mph as some figures were coming out as 140mph+! Your system must be inaccurate then ;D ;D ;D ;D Firstly - why are the quotes so disjointed? Secondly - the timings between Reading and Swindon are based on 110mph running, which is what a lot of drivers stick to along that route. Clearly not you 12hoursunday ;) Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Btline on July 09, 2008, 17:51:37 Why do drivers stick to that lower speed? Surely it is better to arrive early, lest a delay occurs.
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: swlines on July 09, 2008, 17:58:56 12hoursunday, it's more due to the fact that when you've got short distances with just minute interval timings you can hit very high speeds on averaging...
I would assume drivers keep to the lower speed owing to the possible problems that could occur on OEO? Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: John R on July 09, 2008, 18:05:25 The route is cleared for 125mph but booked timings are for 110mph. Saves fuel costs and the couple of minutes slack enables a late running service to run at 125 and make up time.
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Toiletdriver on July 10, 2008, 00:33:08 It's 40-90-100 from Bath ;)
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: eightf48544 on July 10, 2008, 09:23:03 The 110 was tongue in cheek in response to a rumour that in normal running 110 suffices to keep time.
Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: 12hoursunday on July 10, 2008, 23:52:17 Secondly - the timings between Reading and Swindon are based on 110mph running, which is what a lot of drivers stick to along that route. Clearly not you 12hoursunday ;) This is the biggest load of codswallop I've read on this forum. The linespeed is 125 and thats what the majority (if not all) do unless the equipment we are working with prevents us from doing so (ie. one engine, broken windows or other things which for whatever reason may be isolated!) Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: Btline on July 11, 2008, 00:02:46 Secondly - the timings between Reading and Swindon are based on 110mph running, which is what a lot of drivers stick to along that route. Clearly not you 12hoursunday ;) This is the biggest load of codswallop I've read on this forum. The linespeed is 125 and thats what the majority (if not all) do unless the equipment we are working with prevents us from doing so (ie. one engine, broken windows or other things which for whatever reason may be isolated!) Glad to hear this. It is an insult to Brunel/GWR if drivers do not take advantage of the line so well built by him/them. Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: devon_metro on July 11, 2008, 10:32:03 Secondly - the timings between Reading and Swindon are based on 110mph running, which is what a lot of drivers stick to along that route. Clearly not you 12hoursunday ;) This is the biggest load of codswallop I've read on this forum. The linespeed is 125 and thats what the majority (if not all) do unless the equipment we are working with prevents us from doing so (ie. one engine, broken windows or other things which for whatever reason may be isolated!) Not what I was told by a Drivers Manager at OOC ??? Title: Re: Non stop London to Bristol! Post by: IndustryInsider on July 11, 2008, 12:01:18 Secondly - the timings between Reading and Swindon are based on 110mph running, which is what a lot of drivers stick to along that route. Clearly not you 12hoursunday ;) This is the biggest load of codswallop I've read on this forum. The linespeed is 125 and thats what the majority (if not all) do unless the equipment we are working with prevents us from doing so (ie. one engine, broken windows or other things which for whatever reason may be isolated!) Not what I was told by a Drivers Manager at OOC ??? I'll agree with 12hourssunday. Virtually everyone drives to 125mph - especially if it's the drivers last trip of the shift! ;) This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |