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Title: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: anthony215 on April 02, 2025, 16:55:46 Good evening all.
Just seen this on Rail magazines website. https://www.railmagazine.com/news/2025/03/25/two-new-open-access-cross-country-routes-set-to-be-submitted-to-rail-regulator 8 Nottingham to Bristol TM services daily with 6 on sundays via east-west rail to Oxford then GWML to Bristol TM. They also proposed a Liverpool to Cardiff airport service. Both routes to.use class 221/222's Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: ChrisB on April 02, 2025, 16:58:57 Oh god - yes, it is in my list to post here too.
Now, would you rather an IET from BRI to MKC or a vomiter from BRI to NOT? I doubt there's room for both. Hence GWR trying to get in first with BRI-MKC, I guess. Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: ChrisB on April 02, 2025, 17:08:03 Quote Rail consultancy firm SLC is planning two new services: Nottingham-Bristol via Oxford and Liverpool-Cardiff via Hereford. SLC is also behind the Wrexham, Shropshire & Midlands Railway (WSMR) plan linking Wrexham and London Euston, one of several applications currently awaiting Office of Rail and Road approval. The first new application, under the Midland Central and Western Railway (MCWR) banner, is for a seven-year operation for eight Nottingham-Bristol services in each direction Monday-Saturday, with six on Sunday. Trains would call at East Midlands Parkway, Loughborough, Leicester, Kettering, Market Harborough and Bedford on the Midland Main Line. The proposed route would then use the Marston Vale line, stopping at Stewartby, and then the new East West Rail route from Bletchley High Level station to reach Bicester Village, Oxford Parkway and Oxford. From there, the service would call at Swindon, Chippenham and Bath Spa, before terminating at Bristol Temple Meads. (https://storage.railmagazine.com/website/1/root/proposed-midland-central-and-western-railway-mcwr-route.png) Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: Mark A on April 02, 2025, 17:59:08 Good evening all. Just seen this on Rail magazines website. https://www.railmagazine.com/news/2025/03/25/two-new-open-access-cross-country-routes-set-to-be-submitted-to-rail-regulator 8 Nottingham to Bristol TM services daily with 6 on sundays via east-west rail to Oxford then GWML to Bristol TM. They also proposed a Liverpool to Cardiff airport service. Both routes to.use class 221/222's The only obstacle to that being a runaway success between Oxford / Leicester / Nottingham is that need to run via Bedford. Since it'll offer simple travel between its destinations it'd be good if it happened. Recalling Oxford - Nottingham proposals via Coventry though... Mark Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: ellendune on April 02, 2025, 19:32:24 I doubt there's room for both. Hence GWR trying to get in first with BRI-MKC, I guess. I doubt there is room on EWR for open access once it gets past Bletchley, if you look at all the planning that has gone into minimising the necessary works, there is only going to be room for the planned services. That is before capacity on GWR is considered. Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: paul7575 on April 03, 2025, 11:55:31 The DfT explicitly ruled out ‘cross-country type’ services via EWR, this was done before the TWA process got going, and is mentioned in the TWA inspector’s report. The same section of the report included removing through services from EWR into Marylebone via Princes Risbrough and High Wycombe.
I’m surprised this proposal has come up, I’d assumed EWR’s own proposals including future Cambridge extensions use up all the designed paths. Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: Mark A on April 03, 2025, 15:05:20 The DfT explicitly ruled out ‘cross-country type’ services via EWR. **snip** **Splutters** Mark Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: ChrisB on April 03, 2025, 15:33:28 The DfT explicitly ruled out ‘cross-country type’ services via EWR, this was done before the TWA process got going, and is mentioned in the TWA inspector’s report. The same section of the report included removing through services from EWR into Marylebone via Princes Risbrough and High Wycombe. That woud certainly explain why the DfT now refuses to countenance upgrading the Aylesbury Vale parkway to EWR line then, if they can't allow trains via PRR from EWR Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: Oxonhutch on April 04, 2025, 08:42:24 That woud certainly explain why the DfT now refuses to countenance upgrading the Aylesbury Vale parkway to EWR line then, if they can't allow trains via PRR from EWR Is that decision driven by capacity constraints on the single line from AYS to PRR? Title: Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2025, 08:48:19 I think so - but the answer will be in the TWA report from the Inspector, available somewhere on the DfT website, I suspect
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