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Title: Zonal fares for West of England? Post by: Red Squirrel on October 08, 2024, 17:16:08 Bristol Rail Campaign are advocating a new zonal fare system for the the Bristol and Bath area: (full disclosure - I am the author of this post, but it is a BRC campaign)
Quote Zonal fares Source: Bristol Rail Campaign (https://bristolrailcampaign.org.uk/zonal-fares/)Bus and train fares around Bristol and Bath need sorting out. Fares on Severn Beach line are cheaper than other local journeys. Bus fares are, for now, capped. But some local train journeys have much higher fares. We think a system of zonal fares would be fairer, and would encourage more people to use trains and buses. Uneven subsidies On the Severn Beach line, fare subsidies together with more frequent trains and a simple zonal fare system have led to big increases in passenger numbers. But elsewhere the fare system is not fit for purpose. For example the fare from Temple Meads to Ashley Down (£3.50 single) is significantly higher than for nearby Montpelier (£1.50 single). The fare from Bedminster to Lawrence Hill, at £4.70 for a 2.8 km journey, is more than twice that from Lawrence Hill to Montpelier (£1.50 for 3km). For comparison, a similar journey across London by tube would cost around £3. When connections are required, it gets worse. GWR will offer an Anytime Day Single of £9 from Ashley Down to Yate, but you could make the same journey for £6.80 by buying two tickets, splitting your journey at Filton Abbey Wood. This table shows how fares on the Severn Beach Line compare with other local journeys of similar length:
As more MetroWest stations open, these anomalies could multiply. We think this should be cleared up as a matter of urgency. Our proposal for Zonal fares Bristol Rail Campaign believe that a zonal fare system, similar to that used on the Severn Beach Line, should be extended to cover all local services. Our proposal for a three zone system is: Zone 1, bounded by Clifton Down, Filton Abbey Wood and Parson St; Zone 2, bounded by Severn Beach, Bristol Parkway, Keynsham, Portishead and Nailsea & Backwell; Zone 3, bounded by Charfield, Bath and Yatton. We believe that such a system would encourage cross-city and other local journeys. It would also simplify fares and be fairer and easier to understand. We have already raised this with Western Gateway STB, and plan to pursue it with both Bristol City Council and WECA. Let us know in the comments section below what you think! Title: Re: Zonal fares for West of England? Post by: infoman on October 08, 2024, 17:41:23 Could I suggest a flat fare of two pounds single and three pounds return on Saturdays only.
Bordering Parson Street Patchway Yate and Kenysham? Title: Re: Zonal fares for West of England? Post by: Noggin on October 13, 2024, 16:10:42 Could I suggest a flat fare of two pounds single and three pounds return on Saturdays only. Bordering Parson Street Patchway Yate and Kenysham? I'd argue that the main purpose of zonal fares is to simplify ticket purchase. If you enable TfL-style tap on/tap off, or even better, have an "all you can eat" WECA travelcard, then the majority never look at the "sticker price". Title: Re: Zonal fares for West of England? Post by: Trowres on October 13, 2024, 16:52:45 Zonal fares have their own baked-in distortions, so I'm not sure they would necessarily be fairer; especially with London-style concentric zones.
Denmark employed a zonal system that was not based on a particular centre. It enabled one to calculate the fare based upon the number of zones crossed. However, I remember a detailed leaflet (zone fares predated reliance on the Internet!) that explained why the fare from B->A could be different from the fare from A->B. Title: Re: Zonal fares for West of England? Post by: Ralph Ayres on October 13, 2024, 20:01:57 The London-style concentric zones came about at least partly because the vast majority of journeys were to/from central London or entirely outside it, with relatively few actually crossing the centre. Charging more for crossing the middle would have added complexity in both ticket purchase and pay as you go charging for relatively little extra income. I wonder how travel patterns in the Bristol area compare?
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