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All across the Great Western territory => Who's who on Western railways => Topic started by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 06:46:37



Title: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 06:46:37
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9r15xxz3zo

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Liberal Democrat transport spokeswoman Wera Hobhouse said: "Years of Conservative mismanagement has left commuters paying more for less.

"Any action to reach a fair deal for passengers and workers alike is welcome."

However, she added that "keeping travel affordable must be a priority" and called for an immediate price freeze on season tickets.

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But Conservative shadow transport secretary Helen Whately condemned the government's approach, saying "a 'no-strings' deal means this will be paid for by passengers and taxpayers".

We have been so concentrating on the new government that I don't think we've documented these two as spokespeople for the major opposition parties.   

Wera Hobhouse is MP for Bath and spoke for our campaign to retain the through services from her consituency (Oldfield Park and Bath) to London (Waterloo) that were culled in 2021 to thin out services along the route - since when new Bristol - Salisbury services have been introduced, and the local Salisbury - Basingstoke service has been re-extended to Waterloo ... with a "just miss" at Salisbury, and both often run with 158s. 

Helen Whately is the Conservative MP for Faversham and Mid Kent, and has been an MP continually since 7 May 2015.   She represents a seat outside the area the Coffee Shop covers, and is not a person I have come across before; a great deal of history in parliament but nothing "prior" that suggests a transport interest, but I stand to be corrected.


Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: Ralph Ayres on August 16, 2024, 13:58:49
Does calling for a price freeze on season tickets perhaps indicate a lack of awareness of recent changes in work travel for a lot of people who now work partly from home?  That in turn may point to a wider lack of interest in public transport.  Either way, she is of course likely to have little or no influence over what actually happens.


Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: grahame on August 16, 2024, 17:38:26
From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9r15xxz3zo

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But Conservative shadow transport secretary Helen Whately condemned the government's approach, saying "a 'no-strings' deal means this will be paid for by passengers and taxpayers".


And yet ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9le7vdw91o

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LNER train drivers to stage fresh weekend strikes

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But Conservative shadow transport minister Kieran Mullan said following the new pay deal offered, "it should shock nobody that more strikes are on the cards".

Err ... a "secretary" and a "minister" ?


Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 16, 2024, 20:40:22
We need Sir Humphrey Appleby (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Appleby) to clarify the distinction.  ;D



Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: ChrisB on August 16, 2024, 21:45:06
There is a Transport Secretary who is the Rail Minister's boss. And shadow varieties too.


Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: eXPassenger on August 17, 2024, 22:29:48
The senior politician in a department is the Secretary of State and member of the Cabinet.  The Ministers of State are responsible for functions within the department.  The press may refer to them both as Ministers.


Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: grahame on August 18, 2024, 07:07:29
The senior politician in a department is the Secretary of State and member of the Cabinet.  The Ministers of State are responsible for functions within the department.  The press may refer to them both as Ministers.

Thank you.  And both need to be shadowed? 


Title: Re: Helen Whatley and Wera Hobhouse - transport spokesmen for Cons and Lib Dems
Post by: stuving on August 18, 2024, 10:19:30
The senior politician in a department is the Secretary of State and member of the Cabinet.  The Ministers of State are responsible for functions within the department.  The press may refer to them both as Ministers.

Thank you.  And both need to be shadowed? 

Opposition shadows are often seen as shadowing individuals (or their posts). However, officially they are their party's spokesperson for a department or topic. The Conservatives are the official opposition, and Helen Whately is Shadow Secretary of State for Transport and member of the shadow cabinet. There are three other, "junior", shadows for the DfT - Sir Alec Sherbrooke is Shadow Minister of Transport, and is likely to take over some topics from his SSoS. Greg Smith and Dr Kieran Mullen are Shadow Parliamentary Under Secretaries - a pretty lowly form of parliamentary life, really.

The Lib Dems are not part of the official opposition, and are too few in number to name shadows on a "man-for-man marking" basis. Some do get officially listed, per department, and Baroness Randerson is the one for transport. There has to be someone in each house, and Wera Hobhouse (née von Reden) covers not only transport but energy and climate change and is Shadow Leader of the House (so a member of Ed Davey's shadow cabinet). Precise titles are a bit irrelevant with so much multihattedness going on.



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