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Title: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: grahame on June 11, 2024, 08:38:21 And as for drunken driving ! The last fatal rail accident caused by the driver drinking was IIRC over 50 years ago (Hither green) Happens all the time on the roads. Hither Green in 1967 was a broken rail. Eltham Well Hall in 1972 was a drunk train driver. 52 years to the day since the Eltham Well Hall "accident" and I have, after thought, added this thread to the "historic" board as something that would not happen today. But a reminder of the need for systems to be in place to be vigilant, jut in case a safety-critical member of staff (or one who can endanger safety) goes - err - off the rails. Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 11, 2024, 12:45:24 Details are available on Wikipedia, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eltham_Well_Hall_rail_crash
Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: broadgage on June 11, 2024, 13:53:47 Yes, thanks for the correction, for some reason I had confused Hither Green and Eltham Well hall.
AFAIK, that was the last accident caused by a drunk train driver, most unlikely to happen today, but can not be absolutely ruled out. Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: Electric train on June 11, 2024, 18:27:24 And as for drunken driving ! The last fatal rail accident caused by the driver drinking was IIRC over 50 years ago (Hither green) Happens all the time on the roads. Hither Green in 1967 was a broken rail. Eltham Well Hall in 1972 was a drunk train driver. 52 years to the day since the Eltham Well Hall "accident" and I have, after thought, added this thread to the "historic" board as something that would not happen today. But a reminder of the need for systems to be in place to be vigilant, jut in case a safety-critical member of staff (or one who can endanger safety) goes - err - off the rails. Despite the well published policy on random D&A testing, which takes place across offices, depots, control centres, work sit access etc. post incident testing, the pre employment D&A testing and the regular testing at medicals; there are still people testing positive. Having said that the number is extremely low, there are not many industries that have the legal requirement to conduct regular random D&A testing Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 11, 2024, 21:11:29 Thank you for that information, Electric train. ;)
What is the level of alcohol tested against: is it 'zero', or any lower level than the legal limit for driving road vehicles, for example? I'm asking genuinely out of professional interest. Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: Oxonhutch on June 11, 2024, 22:33:10 is it 'zero' There is no zero for ethanol in the human body. It is a metabolite of non-drinking people. Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: Electric train on June 12, 2024, 18:01:26 Thank you for that information, Electric train. ;) What is the level of alcohol tested against: is it 'zero', or any lower level than the legal limit for driving road vehicles, for example? I'm asking genuinely out of professional interest. 29 mil g per 100ml of blood, 13 micro g per 100ml of breath, as Oxonchurch says there is no zero Title: Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 12, 2024, 22:07:55 Thank you both for your detailed information. :-X
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