Title: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Btline on May 28, 2008, 21:57:58 FGW is now in second last place in performance.
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/742.aspx NXEC are the worst. This is excellent news. It shows that FGW are on the move up the table and won't be stripped of its franchise. But... think how the Cotswold Line redoubling would help FGW. Less delays through Reading caused by single track, less delays throughout the region. If you want to help FGW move up the table, sign the petition now. ;D Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 28, 2008, 21:59:58 NXEC have actually been worst for at least 6 months on and off!
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Btline on May 28, 2008, 22:06:01 NXEC have actually been worst for at least 6 months on and off! What were GNER like? Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 28, 2008, 22:08:29 Nowhere near as bad as NXEC are managing, I think they generally managed to be roughly half way up the table.
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Timmer on May 28, 2008, 22:08:52 What were GNER like? I bet thats a question many are asking right now.Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Btline on May 28, 2008, 22:11:03 Chiltern on top though - No surprise there! Long may it continue...
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 28, 2008, 22:16:01 I'm very surprised c2c aren't at the top. Their network is self contained and virtually no trains share their metals. Likewise with Island Line, but they're counted with SWT now...
Oh and it's Gatwick Express at the top! Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: devon_metro on May 28, 2008, 22:57:31 First GW are third last - Virgin second last.
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 28, 2008, 23:02:11 Not very surprising for Virgin. The period wasn't really brilliant for them and won't be until the WCRM works are finished.
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 28, 2008, 23:17:55 1. Gatwick Express (95.9%)
2. Merseyrail (95.3%) 3. Chiltern Railways (95.2%) 4. First ScotRail (93.8%) 5. Transpennine Express (93.6%) 6. Arriva Trains Wales (93.2%) 6. First Capital Connect (93.2%) 8. c2c (93.0%) 9. London Overground (92.9%) 9. Southeastern (92.9%) 9. Stagecoach South West Trains / Island Line (92.9%) 12. Southern (92.7%) 13. Northern (91.7%) 13. NXEA (91.7%) 15. East Midlands Trains (89.9%) 16. CrossCountry (89.4%) 17. London Midland (89.1%) 18. First Great Western (87.0%) 19. Virgin Trains (85.5%) 20. National Express East Coast (85.0%) Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: r james on May 28, 2008, 23:26:12 I always thought that Virgin West coast were always one of the best at performance, from what I read on the net. Not the best, but one of the better ones.
How is it that their punctuation drops because of the west coast mainline works? Surely not rheir fault? Nice to see ATW high up the list though! Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 28, 2008, 23:29:44 Their punctuality drops as a result of the WCRM works due to the fact that the infrastructure is not up to the job, so more trains are late - so punctuality drops.
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: 12hoursunday on May 29, 2008, 20:21:30 But... think how the Cotswold Line redoubling would help FGW. Less delays through Reading caused by single track, less delays throughout the region. Excuse me for acting thick ;D ;D but please explain how a train running late off the single line at Swindon causes noticable delays at Reading. I haven't had many considerable delays over the Kemble branch for ages and there is enough slack in the timetable between Swindon and Reading for even the windyest of drivers to make up the small amount of time lost recently ::). However that said there is a case for the upgrade to double track required along with more signals to enable more trains both freight and passenger to run! Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Btline on May 29, 2008, 20:41:21 A train on the Cotswold Line (which is Oxford to Worcester!) OR THE GOLDEN VALLEY LINE (Swindon to Cheltenham) arrives at Reading 5 mins late.
It causes many other trains to be late! The slack has made the problem worse - there is now more slack in the service operation. Please sign the petition to prevent this. Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 29, 2008, 20:56:03 it doesnt cause other trains to be late at Reading though! It causes other trains to be late at other locations where the lines meet like Didcot and Swindon.
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Btline on May 29, 2008, 21:00:49 it doesnt cause other trains to be late at Reading though! It causes other trains to be late at other locations where the lines meet like Didcot and Swindon. It does, there is a bottleneck at Reading. Obviously, it would affect Didcot as well. Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: vacman on May 29, 2008, 21:01:44 GNER were quite often below FGW even after the dreaded 06 timetable change!
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: tom-langley on May 29, 2008, 22:32:57 Why are Gatwick Express on the list but not Heathrow or Stansted?
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Lee on May 29, 2008, 22:43:44 Why are Gatwick Express on the list but not Heathrow or Stansted? A possible answer is that Heathrow Express is not part of the National Rail system, and Stansted Express is operated as part of National Express East Anglia. I am happy to be corrected, though. Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 29, 2008, 23:19:12 Gatwick Express is a franchised operator.
Heathrow Express is open access, and as Lee says, Stansted Express are part of NXEA. Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: John R on May 30, 2008, 08:01:10 Gatwick Express is a franchised operator. But only for a few more days, after which it is merged into Southern. Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 30, 2008, 12:53:18 But for some obscure reason will be still shown as it's own TOC until December in the PPM lists apparently!
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Electric train on May 30, 2008, 16:40:50 But for some obscure reason will be still shown as it's own TOC until December in the PPM lists apparently! That's because the Southern franchise is under bid with the ORR at the moment, it could be broken up :oTitle: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 30, 2008, 17:05:40 As far as I'm aware that idea has been closed and put paid to - TfL will have a key word but none of the Southern metro service will transfer to London Overground which was the idea!
Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: Lee on May 30, 2008, 18:53:17 As far as I'm aware that idea has been closed and put paid to - TfL will have a key word but none of the Southern metro service will transfer to London Overground which was the idea! Anything to do with Johnson rather than Livingstone being elected mayor? I know Ken was very much pushing that proposal. Title: Re: FGW no longer the worst TOC - it's official! Post by: swlines on May 30, 2008, 19:13:48 I don't think that the DfT / TfL could come up with a suitable agreement that either could agree to in order to allow the transfer. Besides, services between West Croydon and Crystal Palace and Surrey Quays will be transferring to London Overground as part of the ELR. The idea to carry all Southern Metro services over was to allow a more unified service but there was also stock problems as I don't think the new South Central franchise holder would want LO 455/377s on Horsham services!
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