Title: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: ChrisB on May 25, 2024, 16:10:15 Government snuck out a list of 50 more stations that will go through initial feasibility work and if qualifying, work on access will follow.
All list here (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/railway-stations-awarded-access-for-all-accessibility-funding/railway-stations-awarded-access-for-all-accessibility-funding) but quoted in case the page disappears Quote The Access for All (AfA) programme was launched in 2006 to address the issues faced by disabled passengers and passengers facing mobility restraints when using railway stations in England, Scotland or Wales. As part of our latest round of nominations for the AfA programme, a total of 310 nominations were received from Network Rail, train operating companies (TOCs) and other strategic transport organisations such as combined authorities. The nominations were assessed against the following criteria: annual footfall – targeting busier stations gives better value for money and benefits the most disabled passengers, ORR footfall figures were weighted by the incidence of disability in the area using 2011 Census data rail industry priorities – TOCs were asked to consult with MPs, disability groups and local authorities, to ensure stakeholders’ support, before ranking their nominations availability of third-party funding – this helps to weight business cases but also demonstrates a commitment to the project by third parties local factors – this could include proximity to a hospital or a station with a high proportion of interchange passengers geographical location – the weighted footfall was compared against others nominated by the same TOC and against those within the same region rather than nationally to ensure a fair geographical spread across the country and to create more accessible entry points onto the network confirmed support of the local MP We are pleased to announce that ministers have agreed the list of 50 additional stations selected for initial feasibility work and if that is successful, will be taken forward as part of the AfA programme. This is in addition to stations already in the AfA programme or having accessibility improvements funded by other means. The £350 million to fund even more station projects was confirmed when HS2 funding was reallocated. The first stations to benefit from the additional funding are listed below. Station Region or country Nominator TOC Aigburth North West Merseytravel LCRCA Merseyrail Ash Vale South East SWR - Wessex SWR Battle South East Southeastern Southeastern Bellgrove Scotland Transport Scotland ScotRail Bodmin Parkway South West GWR Great Western Railway Bredbury North West TfGM Northern Bushey London NR West Coast South London Overground Castle Cary South West GWR Great Western Railway Chinley East Midlands Northern Derbyshire Northern Church and Oswaldtwistle North West Northern Northern Colchester East Greater Anglia Greater Anglia Dalston Kingsland London TfL London Overground Dorchester South South West SWR - Wessex SWR Dudley Port West Midlands West Midlands Trains West Midlands Railway Dumbarton Central Scotland Transport Scotland ScotRail Esher South East SWR - Wessex SWR Falkirk Grahamston Scotland Transport Scotland ScotRail Flowery Field North West TfGM Northern Gunnersbury London TfL TfL Hedge End South East SWR - Wessex SWR High Brooms South East Southeastern Southeastern Inverurie Scotland Transport Scotland ScotRail Kew Bridge London SWR - Wessex SWR Kidbrooke London Southeastern Southeastern Leagrave East Thameslink Thameslink Ledbury West Midlands West Midlands Trains West Midlands Railway Marden South East Southeastern Southeastern Maidstone West South East Southeastern Southeastern Neath Wales Transport for Wales Transport for Wales Newton for Hyde North West TfGM Northern Port Sunlight North West Merseytravel LCRCA Merseyrail Raynes Park London SWR - Wessex SWR Rock Ferry North West Merseytravel LCRCA Merseyrail Ruabon Wales Transport for Wales Transport for Wales Sileby East Midlands EMR East Midlands Railway Shotton Wales Transport for Wales Transport for Wales Sleaford East Midlands EMR East Midlands Railway Small Heath West Midlands West Midlands Trains West Midlands Railway South Croydon London Southern Southern Stamford East Midlands EMR East Midlands Railway Stroud South West GWR Great Western Railway Swanwick South East SWR - Wessex SWR Thirsk Yorkshire & Humber TPE TPE Ulverston North West Northern Cumbria Northern Upminster London c2c c2c Walton North West Merseytravel LCRCA Merseyrail Whitchurch (Shropshire) West Midlands Transport for Wales Transport for Wales Wivelsfield South East Southern Southern Wymondham East Greater Anglia Greater Anglia Yeovil Junction South West SWR - Wessex SWR Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: grahame on May 25, 2024, 16:27:51 Selecting from that list - GWR stations are
Castle Cary Bodmin Parkway Stroud As far as I can see, only other stations serve by GWR (but not managed by them) on the list are Neath and Ledbury. "Nearest" others are Yeovil Junction and Dorchester South. These are additional stations - "50 more". Where can I read the original list to which these have been added?? Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: grahame on May 26, 2024, 20:53:11 From the Shropshire Star (https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/transport/2024/05/26/at-last---mps-celebrate-winning-funding-for-train-station-improvements/)
Quote Helen Morgan in North Shropshire has welcomed funding finally being granted for lifts to be installed at Whitchurch Station while Simon Baynes across the border in Clwyd South is hailing money for improvements at Ruabon, near Chirk. The money came as the Government finished off its business before the weekend. Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: froome on May 27, 2024, 06:31:37 Access for All, in my experience, tends to often mean very long ramps being installed, which while they obviously do give access to wheelchair users, also discriminate against those who can walk but have very slow mobility, such as those with heavy luggage or some very elderly. One example of this is Cam & Dursley, where everyone has a long walk up and down the ramp to exit the station while being exposed to the elements. So I hope this version of Access for All does lead to more installation of lifts and where that isn't possible, covering ramps to keep the worst of the weather out, and also installing steps for those who are mobile as an addition to the ramp.
Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 27, 2024, 18:14:45 Access for All, in my experience, tends to often mean very long ramps being installed ... ... which is why Nailsea & Backwell won't ever feature on any such list. There physically isn't anywhere to build a 'very long ramp' up to platform 1, and the alternative of a lift would cost getting on for a seven figure sum. The cost / benefit ratio doesn't stand a chance. ::) Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: Red Squirrel on May 27, 2024, 19:15:47 Access for All, in my experience, tends to often mean very long ramps being installed ... ... which is why Nailsea & Backwell won't ever feature on any such list. There physically isn't anywhere to build a 'very long ramp' up to platform 1, and the alternative of a lift would cost getting on for a seven figure sum. The cost / benefit ratio doesn't stand a chance. ::) No long ramps at Ashley Down... Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 27, 2024, 23:50:31 Access for All, in my experience, tends to often mean very long ramps being installed ... ... which is why Nailsea & Backwell won't ever feature on any such list. There physically isn't anywhere to build a 'very long ramp' up to platform 1, and the alternative of a lift would cost getting on for a seven figure sum. The cost / benefit ratio doesn't stand a chance. ::)You are fortunate there. ::) At Nailsea & Backwell, we are constrained by the elevation of our station on a rather crumbly Victorian-built hard-core embankment, sloping away fairly steeply on each side. It's perfectly safe and sound - provided you don't fiddle about with it. ;D When Network Rail do any vegetation work here, they are rightly very cautious about climbing up the slopes. The only way to provide disabled access Platform 1 here would either be to build a very long ramp (and there is nowhere to put that) or a lift. If you were going to put in a lift to Platform 1, it would make sense to also put in a lift to Platform 2, with a connecting footbridge (like what they did at Chippenham (eventually), for example ::) ) partly because even our 'very long ramp' up to Platform 2 isn't ideal. That has all been costed at around £1,000,000 - so that won't be happening. It's frustrating, but we must accept financial reality. :-X Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: grahame on May 28, 2024, 05:39:35 As far as I can see, only other stations serve by GWR (but not managed by them) on the list are Neath and Ledbury. Hedge End also listed - 2 GWR trains a day go through there - do they call? Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: bobm on May 28, 2024, 07:38:59 The whole issue of lifts is a thorny one. Apart from the cost of installing them, the ongoing maintenance can be a challenge.
GWR are finding some of them, although relatively recent, are obsolete and getting replacement parts is proving difficult. Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: grahame on May 28, 2024, 08:21:22 That has all been costed at around £1,000,000 - so that won't be happening. It's frustrating, but we must accept financial reality. :-X Indeed - though the other argument I've heard advanced is that if we can't d*mned well pay for access for all on something, we should implement equality in other ways - be it by removing toilets from trains, bus routes that can't afford an accessible vehicle, or stations from the network. Title: Re: Access For All - 50 more stations Post by: Red Squirrel on May 28, 2024, 13:56:03 That has all been costed at around £1,000,000 - so that won't be happening. It's frustrating, but we must accept financial reality. :-X Indeed - though the other argument I've heard advanced is that if we can't d*mned well pay for access for all on something, we should implement equality in other ways - be it by removing toilets from trains, bus routes that can't afford an accessible vehicle, or stations from the network. Not sure I quite agree with grahame's 'levelling down' agenda! ;) Nailsea & Backwell is one of the busier stations in the region, with similar passenger numbers to Bridgwater. 'Financial reality' is all about priorities. Nailsea & Backwell should be a priority. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |