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From the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-69001698

They work well when they’re well-designed, but can be really dangerous when they aren’t.

 A lot of cycling infrastructure seems to be designed by highways engineers who have no real understanding of how to make it safe and practical. And too often it is kludged in as an afterthought once the needs of private motorists have been generously accommodated.

The daftest bus stop schemes feature a narrowing of the bike path - which causes cyclists to speed up - or ramps which may encourage some to become airborne.

As with all road schemes, good design encourages safe usage.

Unfortunatly, contary to the recommendation in LTN 1/20 Cycle Infrastructure Design, most designers aren't cyclists. I also expect very few have the Institute of Highways Engineers specialist training in the subject.

Just find those that can be viewed over the internet - bikes do not give way to pedestrians, just try & go round them....while others try & cross too.

Not saying there isn't some pretty bad cycling around and attitudes need to change, but videos are only likely to be posted of cyclists misbehaving, not the many who do the right thing, so it gives a skewed impression; I've not seen myself in any of them for a start.  You could probably build up just as disturbing a set of videos showing some car drivers' behaviour at pedestrian crossings if you were trying to make a point about bad driving.  I wonder if a significant proportion of those cycling badly have switched from driving and brought a bad attitude with them?  I'd certainly rather they were on a bike than behind the wheel of a car, though better still on a bus or train to reduce the opportunity for harm further.

This is a report on the TfL review https://road.cc/content/news/low-risk-cyclist-collisions-floating-bus-stops-306073 (https://road.cc/content/news/low-risk-cyclist-collisions-floating-bus-stops-306073)  Selected quotes below.

I really get fed up with this sort of opinion....no one disputes that car drivers are culprits....but so are cyclists. Doesn't matter whether it's a few or a lot. There are repercussions for drivers that pedestrian crossings. There is no reason why cyclists shouldn't be equally subject to these repercussions! They aren't currently, and that is the point.

cf the proposal for the new offence of causing death & serious injury. Even if it is only applied to half a dozen a year, there is no reason not to pass the law.

This in itself gives a "skewed impression".........

"videos are only likely to be posted of cyclists misbehaving" .........true, but only because it is so easy to catch such occurences by cyclists.

I regularly drive through Warminster High St; the set of traffic lights located there provide continuous examples of cyclist blantantly ignoring the red lights. I have never seen a car veer up onto the pavement to drive through the red light............I can guarantee that a short wait at these lights will show a couple of cyclists doing this !
Likewise, I have never seen a motor vehicle going down the (one way) Close, the wrong way - however, plenty of cyclists seem to - then usually mounting the pavement when they see my car approching them head on !

I doubtless will now be called "anti-cyclist"........I am not......I would just like cyclists to obey the same laws that I, as a motorist, do.  The attitude that breaking the road traffic laws on a bike is, somehow, less harmful strikes me as somewhat bizarre. So, it's OK to shoplift from Tesco - but not from Mr Patel at the corner shop..............?

They need cycle calming measures, ie to slow cyclists down making it safe for pedestrians.  There are some cyclists that do not respect the zebra crossings on cycleways, I have seen in London a few cyclists really !issed off because a police officer has pulled them for not giving way to pedestrians

I will hold my hand up and admit that I do go through red traffic lights occassionally. Example; at the bottom of the Butts in Reading they have changed the lights from a timed sequence to traffic sensed. The problem is that particular set of road sensors does not sense bikes, so I could sit there a long time getting cold and wet.

I don't know the example quoted, but locally I do ride the wrong way down quiet residential streets on the last leg of the trip home.

Pavements or shared pedestian/bike pavements are not good places, which I think you should not be travelling at more than jogging speed. If you want to train for the Tour de France or you are making a delivery use the road.

The inconsistency of the governments pronouncements don't help. They announce that they are minded to allow (they are already out there) the faster, higher powered e-bikes, and the next thing they are complaining about danger to pedestrians and floating bus stops.

In amongst all this do we all know and comply with the Hierarchy of Users in the revised Highway Code?

I was in Hammersmith in West London recently and they have put in a fabulous cycle lane around the broadway there and down ‘King’ Street. The person I was visiting said despite this very expensive new facility being there, some cyclists, especially delivery cyclists use the pavement. I then witnessed this first hand to my disappointment.