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Title: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: grahame on March 27, 2024, 19:58:14
From Ian Visits (https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/from-dusty-bin-to-freight-revolution-passenger-train-trial-removes-dozens-of-lorries-from-city-roads-71252/)

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But, could the railway, so used to handling heavy freight step in to deliver the lighter stuff as well?

And that’s what the rail freight company Varamis Rail is trying to do — developing in a way a return to the old way of doing things — trains bringing loosely packed cargo right into the heart of the city, where it can be delivered by low-emission vehicles to their final destinations.

And that’s why a former Greater Anglia Class 321 train has had all of its passenger seats ripped out so that it can be transformed into a dedicated cargo freight train and loaded up with industry-standard cargo cages.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: ray951 on March 27, 2024, 21:42:20
If you look at the map in the pictures you will see that Varamis Rail have highlighted the London - Bristol route.
Would be interested to know whether this is just a suggestion or whether they have any customers lined up.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: CyclingSid on March 28, 2024, 06:50:28
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train has had all of its passenger seats ripped out so that it can be transformed into a dedicated cargo freight train and loaded up with industry-standard cargo cages.

Hasn't something similar been reported before on the forum.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: Electric train on March 28, 2024, 06:58:57
The railways transporting goods and parcels ......................

... now that's new a novel  ;D ;D ;D

It will never catch on  :-\ :-\ :-\    ;D ;D ;D


Seriously, I do hope this does work, what would be better than an Amazon hub (other jungle providers are available) being rail connected .............. Royal Mail lead the way 30 years ago with their rail hubs and look what happened to those 


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: infoman on March 28, 2024, 07:15:17
What I would like to see is a Minehead parcel train,its a three hour round trip to Minehead from Taunton

Parcel companies would drop off parcel/s at norton fitzwarren then parcels would then be taken to Minehead and stored in a safe location.

Then picked up by the receiver at Minehead.

Not sure of what the cost of each small parcel would be though.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: bobm on March 28, 2024, 07:21:48
https://www.railwaygazette.com/freight/gwr-delivers-shellfish-by-train/41725.article (https://www.railwaygazette.com/freight/gwr-delivers-shellfish-by-train/41725.article)

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A three-month trial of transporting live lobsters and other shellfish from Cornwall to restaurants in London in the guard's vans of High Speed Trains was launched on December 1.

The pilot project is being undertaken by InterCity RailFreight in partnership with Great Western Railway, WEGO Carbon Neutral Couriers and Cornish fishermen.

The shellfish will be packed into insulated crates and loaded onto the 17.39 departure from Penzance, arriving at London Paddington at 23.44 for collection and distribution to customers by WEGO.

This started amid much fanfare in 2015.   I don't know if the trial was extended but the courier mentioned in the article no longer appears to be operating and of course there aren't the HSTs with their guards vans.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: grahame on March 28, 2024, 10:32:22
What I would like to see is a Minehead parcel train,its a three hour round trip to Minehead from Taunton

Parcel companies would drop off parcel/s at norton fitzwarren then parcels would then be taken to Minehead and stored in a safe location.

Brilliant - and you could extend that facility ... "Passenger train operating companies would drop off people at taunton then people would then be taken to Minehead and stored by Butlins in a safe location.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: stuving on March 28, 2024, 11:18:47
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train has had all of its passenger seats ripped out so that it can be transformed into a dedicated cargo freight train and loaded up with industry-standard cargo cages.

Hasn't something similar been reported before on the forum.

Yes ... proposed by Varamis ... in 2020. (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=23095.msg284343#msg284343) At that stage there were four such proposals, though I think that was really two stock conversions and three potential operators.

Varamis came in as outsiders, so had to wait to go get an operator's licence. They are using class 321s converted (at least initially) by Eversholt under the branding "Swift Express". Recently Varamis have been buying them, not just leasing more. It does look as if they (and their backers, presumably) rate their performance so far as a success.

Porterbrook converted some of their rusty old 319s for parcels use, becoming class 768. At first GB Railfreight were announced as operators and ran trials, but it was ROG who ordered several of them for their planned Orion subsidiary. Then they both went very quiet, and seem to have dropped the idea. It's hard to be sure as no-one give much publicity to such abandoned plans.


Title: Re: Return of the BRUTE?
Post by: Noggin on March 28, 2024, 11:27:26
If you look at the map in the pictures you will see that Varamis Rail have highlighted the London - Bristol route.
Would be interested to know whether this is just a suggestion or whether they have any customers lined up.

Conceivably Bristol Parkway might work, especially as it's electrified already.

Longer term, they might convince the DfT to fund extension of electrification to Avonmouth via Henbury, at which point there are most of the main logistics players plus Amazon a short drive away.



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