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Title: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: JayMac on March 04, 2024, 15:57:38 There is major disruption to the SWR network following the derailment of a passenger train near Walton-on-Thames this morning, 4th March 2024.
The incident involved 2L10 0454 Basingstoke - London Waterloo. 2x four car Class 450s. Front wheelset derailed after hitting, it's believed, a displaced conductor rail. Significant damage has been caused to the infrastructure. No reported injuries to passengers or staff, all were safely evacuated. This was the first train through the area after overnight engineering work. The RAIB are on site. Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: ChrisB on March 04, 2024, 15:59:02 Train was doing 90mph at the time.
Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: JayMac on March 04, 2024, 16:07:23 Pictures from Network Rail Wessex (https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1764583555227619572?t=fQk9I1EsddNs1Q29PfjB7g&s=19) on Twitter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wm34WPg/20240304-160301.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/RZtkGyXm/20240304-160310.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/8cqy6P86/20240304-160319.jpg) Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: Mark A on March 04, 2024, 18:14:26 Sounds as though it came to rest partly alongside an out-of-use platform at Walton and the passengers evacuated via the platform's stairs, which are covered by a rather informal corrugated structure.
Mark Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: JayMac on March 04, 2024, 22:02:33 The train was re-railed late afternoon and removed from the area late evening. Wheelskates were used due to damage to leading bogie, and a diesel loco employed to haul the set away. Work continues into the night to repair the infrastructure.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2SW8Qsm4/20240304-220853.jpg) https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1764727055457882179 Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: TaplowGreen on March 05, 2024, 06:48:06 Network Rail didn't clean up after themselves it would seem and left equipment on the tracks for the train to hit.
Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: paul7575 on March 05, 2024, 16:14:23 Network Rail didn't clean up after themselves it would seem and left equipment on the tracks for the train to hit. That was my initial thoughts as well, but has there been any more info about what happened made public at all?Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: Electric train on March 05, 2024, 18:13:23 Network Rail didn't clean up after themselves it would seem and left equipment on the tracks for the train to hit. That was my initial thoughts as well, but has there been any more info about what happened made public at all?Not that I'm aware of. If it was caused by something NR or their contractors did or didn't do or by vandals it will be part of an investigation by the ORR, RAIB and potentially BTP as such a statement will be made to the public when they are ready to release it. Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: grahame on March 09, 2024, 21:45:28 Network Rail didn't clean up after themselves it would seem and left equipment on the tracks for the train to hit. That was my initial thoughts as well, but has there been any more info about what happened made public at all?Not that I'm aware of. If it was caused by something NR or their contractors did or didn't do or by vandals it will be part of an investigation by the ORR, RAIB and potentially BTP as such a statement will be made to the public when they are ready to release it. In public now ... BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckrxzz42x5eo) Quote Scrap rail left on tracks following engineering works was the cause of a derailment in Surrey, according to Network Rail. The company said a train hit the object at about 05:50 GMT on Monday in a 90mph area near Walton-on-Thames. A Network Rail Wessex safety bulletin said it was the first train on the fast line following the weekend works. The incident initially closed four tracks between Woking and Surbiton before disruption spread across the South Western Railway (SWR) network for 24 hours. Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: TaplowGreen on March 10, 2024, 07:56:48 Network Rail didn't clean up after themselves it would seem and left equipment on the tracks for the train to hit. That was my initial thoughts as well, but has there been any more info about what happened made public at all?Not that I'm aware of. If it was caused by something NR or their contractors did or didn't do or by vandals it will be part of an investigation by the ORR, RAIB and potentially BTP as such a statement will be made to the public when they are ready to release it. In public now ... BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckrxzz42x5eo) Quote Scrap rail left on tracks following engineering works was the cause of a derailment in Surrey, according to Network Rail. The company said a train hit the object at about 05:50 GMT on Monday in a 90mph area near Walton-on-Thames. A Network Rail Wessex safety bulletin said it was the first train on the fast line following the weekend works. The incident initially closed four tracks between Woking and Surbiton before disruption spread across the South Western Railway (SWR) network for 24 hours. Very, very lucky. Could've been carnage. Doesn't anyone check for things like this before leaving site? Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: Electric train on March 10, 2024, 08:07:58 Network Rail didn't clean up after themselves it would seem and left equipment on the tracks for the train to hit. That was my initial thoughts as well, but has there been any more info about what happened made public at all?Not that I'm aware of. If it was caused by something NR or their contractors did or didn't do or by vandals it will be part of an investigation by the ORR, RAIB and potentially BTP as such a statement will be made to the public when they are ready to release it. In public now ... BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckrxzz42x5eo) Quote Scrap rail left on tracks following engineering works was the cause of a derailment in Surrey, according to Network Rail. The company said a train hit the object at about 05:50 GMT on Monday in a 90mph area near Walton-on-Thames. A Network Rail Wessex safety bulletin said it was the first train on the fast line following the weekend works. The incident initially closed four tracks between Woking and Surbiton before disruption spread across the South Western Railway (SWR) network for 24 hours. I was aware of the cause Tuesday morning. It would seem to be such a simple thing not to leave anything on the track after work; there is an inordinate amount of processes and procedures designed to prevent such things happening. Most if not all of the processes and procedures relies on the person in charge of a work site checking and reporting back to the person in charge of the possession their work site is clear of all tools, material, machines, personnel etc and its safe to hand back. The person in charge of the possession will have multiple worksites all doing different work over often a very large length of railway, the work load on this person has increased since the prohibition on the use of unassisted lookouts to do work in normal traffic running, this has pushed more routine maintenance and inspection activities into engineering possessions. There is the pressure to hand back the possession on time so as not to delay train services. (A possession is the term used when a Engineering Department take over a section of railway from the Operations Department. The person in charge of the possession is responsible for the setting up and handing back processes of the possession, controls all engineering train movements into and out the possession and authorises engineering train movements between work sites) I would think the ORR and RAIB will be looking into the processes and procedures of handing back a possession. Title: Re: Derailment near Walton-on-Thames, 4th March 2024 Post by: stuving on March 19, 2024, 15:49:22 To no-one's surprise, RAIB have announced an investigation (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/derailment-of-a-passenger-train-near-walton-on-thames).
Quote At around 05:40 hrs on 4 March 2024, a passenger train, travelling along the Up Fast line between Woking and London Waterloo, struck a piece of redundant rail on a railway access point on the approach to Walton‑on‑Thames station. The train was travelling at around 85 mph (137 km/h) when the collision occurred. (https://www.railforums.co.uk/attachments/walton-on-thames-derailment-jpeg.154507/)The train’s leading set of wheels derailed, but the train remained upright and came to a stand around 500 metres beyond the point of collision, as a result of the driver applying the emergency brake. There were no injuries, but the train and several hundred metres of railway infrastructure were damaged. The train was the first one along the Up Fast line following engineering work that had taken place the previous weekend. This work included recovering redundant rails. Our investigation will seek to identify the sequence of events that led to the accident. It will also consider: the planning and management of the work to recover the redundant rails the arrangements to ensure railway lines are safe for the passage of trains following engineering work the actions of those involved and anything which may have influenced them any underlying management factors. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |